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bignasty
03-06-2008, 06:45 PM
I did a search for dual piston upgrade and i want to make sure i deciphered the posts correctly. I have a 1996 galant s on stock 14" by the way. I want to save 14" for winter if possible.

Front
If i go dual piston and want to stay 4lug. i should get the 6g vr4 rotors for the front. For the pads , i should get Diamante pads for the year i possess(92-96).

Rear
Since my car has drums. i would just simply use the eclipse 2g hardware minus the lugs. For the rotors, i should get 7g 94 gs rear rotors right. The pads would for a 2g eclipse.


Now, if i go with crossed drill and slotted rotors. Do i simply request rotors for the 6g vr4 front and 7g 94gs for the rear from irotors.com.

I hope i didnt confuse anybody. I just want to make sure i order the right items so i dont lose time for incorrect items ordered.

Divinity
03-06-2008, 07:05 PM
I'm not sure if your 14" wheels will even clear that size of calipers, I know with 15" wheels it barely clears. I would double check on that before you start to do anything

bignasty
03-06-2008, 07:32 PM
I will buy new rims if i have to. I just wanted to have a winter set of rims too.

kolio
03-06-2008, 10:49 PM
first off 14" by no means will clear. winter rims or not you can't use them with the brakes.

why would you use the pads from a difrent car, use the pads respective to what car they came from

front rotors wil need to be from a 6G VR-4, rear from the 6G VR-4 or 1994 galant GS.

diamante calipers are harder to work with because of their brake lines. some even have 2 soft lines and a 3" section of hard line.

mko
03-06-2008, 11:35 PM
^^ X2. I did the swap to 5 lug first so I can put factory alloy wheels. What I did was to connect two rear brakes rubber lines together so make it work with the dual piston caliper.

Dragon-and-his-mitsubishi
09-13-2008, 02:13 PM
Ive tryed the brakes from Irotors for front and rear - rear was swapped from drums to rotors. But I would like to have 2 calipers on front. Or 4calipers. What should I buy or hunt out? And I want to stay 4lug, because of money Ive spent for my 17".

mko
09-13-2008, 02:30 PM
I cant say it for sure, but the 4 lug patter was never changed in Europe. I believe even 8g came with 4 lugs, so you can look to get rotors off of 8g with dual piston calipers or 6g VR4

DOHCstunr
09-13-2008, 02:30 PM
first off 14" by no means will clear. winter rims or not you can't use them with the brakes.

why would you use the pads from a difrent car, use the pads respective to what car they came from

front rotors wil need to be from a 6G VR-4, rear from the 6G VR-4 or 1994 galant GS.

diamante calipers are harder to work with because of their brake lines. some even have 2 soft lines and a 3" section of hard line.

that is incorrect.

The 6g vr4 does not have the same discs in the rear because their parking brake cable is integrated intot he caliper.
they do not have the drum-in-disc that the 7g has.
you have to get 7g w/ rear disc rotors.

Dragon-and-his-mitsubishi
09-13-2008, 02:32 PM
A friend of mine have VR4 6G and have changed to 5lug. I can get rotors from 6G VR4 in United Kingdom, bud what type of calipers?

DOHCstunr
09-13-2008, 02:48 PM
the calipers off of a 2g eclipse GSX, or off of a 7g galant vr4, or off a 1g diamante, or off of any 3000gt non turbo.

Dragon-and-his-mitsubishi
09-13-2008, 02:54 PM
Thank you very much.

Dragon-and-his-mitsubishi
09-13-2008, 03:55 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Parts-Accessories_Car-Truck-Parts-Accessories__98-MITSUBISHI-ECLIPSE-GSX-Caliper-BECK-ARNLEY-0771408S_W0QQitemZ190249868827QQddnZPartsQ20Q26Q20 AccessoriesQQadnZCarQ20Q26Q20TruckQ20PartsQ20Q26Q2 0AccessoriesQQddiZ2811QQadiZ2865QQcmdZViewItem?_tr ksid=p4506.m20.l1116

These would fit? What kind of brake pads would you recommend? And brake discs? /what mark/

crzejkr
03-01-2009, 01:02 AM
i was at the junk yard the other day and the diamante calipers and brackets are about an inch longer and dont fit on either gst or galant 95-98
i want dual piston in front. i got the rear down cus its all bolt up.
4lug is calipers, lines, and back plate and galant gs 7g rear disc.
5lug is calipers back plate lines and gst gsx eclipse rear disks and hub.
but 4 the front the gst is the same caliper.
where can i get a 2piston caliper setup for my 7g and what do i need to make it fit.
i dont care if 5 lug or not. ill just match my rear depending on what i do in the front.
let m know im hiting up the yards next thursday.
n obd1 and obd2 diamantes have same brakes and suspension.

mko
03-01-2009, 03:35 AM
you proly found the 97-02 diamante. These wont fit 7g, but they fit 8g. Look for 92-95 Diamante ot 3000gt sl. The only difference between 7g GS and 2g Eclipse rear disk brakes is the 5 lugs. Some early GSX came with vented rear rotors, but thats long story. If you wanna help yourself finding rear disk swap - look for 95-00 Avenger or 95-00 Sebring.

crzejkr
03-01-2009, 04:41 PM
you proly found the 97-02 diamante. These wont fit 7g, but they fit 8g. Look for 92-95 Diamante ot 3000gt sl. The only difference between 7g GS and 2g Eclipse rear disk brakes is the 5 lugs. Some early GSX came with vented rear rotors, but thats long story. If you wanna help yourself finding rear disk swap - look for 95-00 Avenger or 95-00 Sebring.



very tue , the avenger and sebring. id forgot about that.
at work i noticed that the suspension and else was looked kinda familiar.
thanks

dsm galant
03-01-2009, 06:33 PM
i have dual piston front calipers from a 95 talon tsi. but i also used the talon 5 lug on the front. the rear disc i believe is single piston, i also used that from the tsi, so its also 5 lug

crzejkr
03-01-2009, 08:49 PM
i have dual piston front calipers from a 95 talon tsi. but i also used the talon 5 lug on the front. the rear disc i believe is single piston, i also used that from the tsi, so its also 5 lug

96-99 are single piston?
i was at the yards and was getting thee rears from a gst and the front where single piston.
what about 94 under gst gsx tsi?
also bolt up?

dsm galant
03-01-2009, 09:29 PM
i think it might just be a talon tsi thing, not eclipse

mko
03-01-2009, 10:08 PM
only 2g AWD have dual piston. GST are single

kaufmanp92eb
05-31-2009, 11:37 PM
so let me get this straight. 92-95 dual piston fronts off a diamante, and 95-00 avenger or sebring rears will bolt up properly? what about brake lines and will they work on my stock front rotors?
The diamante rears won't work?? I have a 92 diamante at the yard by my house with good brakes all around and low cost since i have to pull them myself.

PR8GG
07-11-2009, 07:00 PM
I want to upgrade my front calipers, is there a two piston caliper what will bolt on on the 8g? I have a set of 98' 3000gt non-turbo, but they wont fit. Please help!

mko
07-11-2009, 10:06 PM
i can get them for you. pm me if interested

and no 3000gt calipers fit 7g only

PR8GG
07-12-2009, 12:21 AM
well, I am interested, let me know what will fit. thanks

PR8GG
07-14-2009, 09:06 AM
It would be nice to have the correct info, plain and clear, for the 8g upgrade; if anyone care to post, please do so. thanks

mko
07-14-2009, 09:28 AM
what would you like to know?

PR8GG
07-14-2009, 10:15 AM
I had read all the post about this subject and the more I read, the more confusing it gets, there is even a tread that ends up in a fight! I know we can use the calipers from a 8g 99 v6 or a 3g 00 v6; but these are very hard to find, I just would like to have the correct info about other models/years that will bolt on, and the other considerations, like Rotors and Brake lines to complete the mod. So, If anyone want to do this, could find the info fast.

crzejkr
09-23-2009, 07:36 PM
front 1g diamantes are the same calipers as 2g GXS/ V6 8g galants. same pattern and duall piston. i spent 2 days back to back in the yards dissasembling and reasembling to and from different cars. the 1g diamantes only diference if i recall correctly are the lines at the caliper. also non turbo 3000gt and.

for it to fit on the 7g you need a GSX spindle you can recognize it if you measure the brackets bolt to bolt on your car and it shoul be 1 or 2 cm more space between the bolts for the duall piston. you can go however you want on cars for calipers. but you need the GSX or AWD TSI font spindlle or the same thing as the DSM JAP galant spindle. aswell as the 7g vr4.
problem is GSX's are as hard to find as a gtz 8g in the yards. so the calipers are easier find in diamantes etc but you cant do anything without the spindle. the rotors need to be GSX cus their a tad bit bigger in diameter.

ive lso heard once you hace those spindles you can direct bolt up evo 8 brembos in front.

Joaltava
03-17-2010, 07:55 PM
also any 3000gt sl dual piston will work too on the 7g

Joaltava
03-17-2010, 07:55 PM
cause i found some cheap 3000gt sl 2 piston front brakes for real cheap price

Joaltava
04-04-2010, 09:12 PM
Well guys i have found me some diamante and 3000gt SL at the junk yards and i plan to start the dual piston upgrade.

DOHCstunr
04-04-2010, 10:15 PM
Well guys i have found me some diamante and 3000gt SL at the junk yards and i plan to start the dual piston upgrade.

Just buy mine. Screw the junkyard. You don't even know that those calipers are in good service.
Check the link in my signature. I can ship these to you tomorrow. Kevlar ceramic Pads, cross drilled/slotted rotors, stainless lines, calipers, brackets, speed bleeders. For a retarded low price, worked excellently on my car.

ferenk553
09-11-2010, 10:53 PM
About swap the brakes from drums to rotors (discs) already buy everything and my donors car was a Chrysler Sebring LX i Coupe and Dodge Avenger ES both car is 6 cylinders pay attention because I saw convertibles sebrings and the rear suspensiion and the rear brakes no match with the Chrysler Sebring LX i and Dodge Avenger ES. I gonna keep my Hubs assemblies because right now my car has rims 16 with four lugs so my decision is keep that ones, soon will be take some pictures and going to show my upgrade in suspension (Sway rear bar Dodge Avenger ES end links whith bar $ 25.00 Junk yard) E brakes complete without rotors and hubs asembies $ 75.00 and now just pacience for my next upgrade soon. One more thing is very hard find the 2g eclipses o gs 7g galant if you want swap suspension or brakes is more easy find Avenger and Sebrings.















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mysticj
05-21-2011, 12:49 AM
can someone clean this thread up and make it a sticky?
need a confirmation on the 6G VR4 rotors w/ dual piston setup along with clearance using the OE 15" alloy rims

Shadow19
05-27-2011, 06:13 AM
can someone clean this thread up and make it a sticky?
need a confirmation on the 6G VR4 rotors w/ dual piston setup along with clearance using the OE 15" alloy rims

6g vr4 rotors work, thats whats on my car. Im almost pisitive they will fit 15'' wheels because my friend has an eagle summit (mirage) that has the dual front caliper swap and he has 15's but there is like 1/2'' clerance.

kaufmanp92eb
05-27-2011, 07:48 AM
Just buy mine. Screw the junkyard. You don't even know that those calipers are in good service.
Check the link in my signature. I can ship these to you tomorrow. Kevlar ceramic Pads, cross drilled/slotted rotors, stainless lines, calipers, brackets, speed bleeders. For a retarded low price, worked excellently on my car.

And are still working excellently on my car.

Galanttuner10
05-27-2011, 07:49 AM
i posted more info over on GT but from what i have found, gvr4 rotors work and then GVR4/1g front dual pistons. the 1g/6g duals give you more clearance than the 2g dual pistons which are bigger but with the 2g calipers there is much less clearance, so much so that sticky weights arent an option.

i wonder if vr4 rotors with 2g calipers will work

kolio
05-28-2011, 09:43 AM
i posted more info over on GT but from what i have found, gvr4 rotors work and then GVR4/1g front dual pistons. the 1g/6g duals give you more clearance than the 2g dual pistons which are bigger but with the 2g calipers there is much less clearance, so much so that sticky weights arent an option.

i wonder if vr4 rotors with 2g calipers will work

i had 6G rotors will 99 GSX calipers. worked fine

Galanttuner10
05-28-2011, 10:13 AM
Ok thank you very much. I plan on running 6g VR4 rotors and 2g calipers since you say it works.

Apex91
08-30-2011, 12:17 PM
ok so from what ive gathered in order to do a rear disc conversion with dual piston calipers, I need to find a first gen diamante, 96-99 gsx/sebring/avenger, first gen 3000gt, or a vr4/gs galant.

Once ive found one of these I need to pull the rotors/calipers/hubs and thats it? Just bolt everything up, connect the lines and im good to go?

Galanttuner10
08-30-2011, 04:03 PM
You are confused. There are no dual piston rear brakes that are bolt on. When it comes to the dual pistons we are talking about the front brakes.

kolio
08-31-2011, 09:48 PM
You are confused. There are no dual piston rear brakes that are bolt on. When it comes to the dual pistons we are talking about the front brakes.

evo brembos are 2 piston rears...... and they bolt straight up

3000gt vr-4 rears are 2 piston rears...... and they bolt up


but i still think the OP is confused

mysticj
09-01-2011, 11:08 PM
evo brembos are 2 piston rears...... and they bolt straight up

3000gt vr-4 rears are 2 piston rears...... and they bolt up



But what rotors to use? Especially for those who still run the four lug rear disk setup.

kolio
09-02-2011, 06:32 AM
But what rotors to use? Especially for those who still run the four lug rear disk setup.

dohcstunr still runs his gs rotors with rear evo calipers. he just re drilled them for 5 lug setup.

stock 2G and 8G ones work fine too

but if your 4 lug you need gs rotors

Apex91
09-23-2011, 12:12 PM
You are confused. There are no dual piston rear brakes that are bolt on. When it comes to the dual pistons we are talking about the front brakes.

nevertheless was I correct in my conclusion of pulling the hub/rotor/caliper assembly and bolting right on?

Galanttuner10
09-23-2011, 01:38 PM
for the front just pull the old stuff caliper and rotors, then slide on some 6g vr4 rotors and some 6g/1g dual pistons or 2g dual pistons. with 2g you bolt all the new setup on then just switch the lines as the dual piston 2g is the exact same banjo bolt