7G vs 8G

Being a current 7G owner, I'm looking at going for an 8G in a few months time. Either way, I'll be getting a new car (wanting to upgrade to VR4). I'm not entirely sure whether I want to go 8G, or stick with 7G.

I will be doing a wee bit of (legal) drag racing, as my partner is right into that scene, but mainly I'm more interested in aesthetic modding (yeah, yeah, call me a ricer. My partner calls me his "little ricer". I hate it! He's just happy I'm into cars in some way...). It seems there's more options for mods for the 8G than the 7G. But I was told the 7G is quicker than the 8.

So, how much quicker is the 8 than the 7? Which one would you recommend and why? I can't seem to find many aesthetic mods for the 7G in NZ, but quite a few for the 8. Either way it'll be a VR4.

Sorry, not looking at any other generations, I didn't really like my 6G much :lol:

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7G's are lighter, and are more aero-dynamic

lol more aero-dynamic? aaahahaha
i bet that has a good .1% affect on performance.

8G's come with more power stock, newer features, a better looking body, and a better club (more people drive 8G's so finding people to help you with your car is easier).

Only downside I see is the stock 7G's 140 no speed govenour compared to the 8G's 120 top speed and rev limiter, speed govenour.

1 wire cut and the 8g has no speed limit,
not a big issue, as we're not aloud to go faster than 100kph on the road.

if you compare a stock JDM 7G VR4 to a stock JDM 8G VR4,

the 8G shits all over the 7g in every department,

the 8g has more/better options. recaros/momo, black or beige leather, moon/sun roofs, carbon/wood/gunmetal dash, hi-vis dash,

the 8g has, manual or triptronic, vs the 7g manual or auto

the 8g has, TCL, AYC, ASC, the 7g has non of these (maybe tcl but never seen one?) so the 8G handles better

the 8g puts out more power and torque from factory,

the 8g comes with better/bigger brakes, and wheels,

theres alot more 8g clubs/support out there.

the 8g just looks better.
and you cant get a 7g wagon, but you can with an 8g,

theres more aftermarket parts for the 8g than the 7g,

the 7g is getting old, and the 8Gs just dont cost that much more,

remember thou, both are a bitch to change the plugs in,
bot will cost you an arm and a leg to get the cambelt done.

the 7g is like 500 pounds lighter than the 8g

id say 8g and not just becuz i have one, but becuz i like the body much better, parked next to a stock 7g with my MOSTLY stock 8g (only really have tint for exterior now) and the 8g body is way better, if the currant car was the 7g, id buy a totally different car

Thanks for the replies. I think I'm going Legnum anyways after much thought. Be much more practical with the dogs :)

Thanks for the advice Gly, was very useful, I was leaning towards the 8G anyway.

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Originally Posted by 99 galant

id say 8g and not just becuz i have one, but becuz i like the body much better, parked next to a stock 7g with my MOSTLY stock 8g (only really have tint for exterior now) and the 8g body is way better, if the currant car was the 7g, id buy a totally different car

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post whore! dont be hating on the 7g..dont judge a book by its cover..that stock 7g will shit on ur stock 8g..oh yeah i forgot blue tint adds like what 200hp...my bad..ur right 8gs FTW!! (scroll down)




































SIKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jdm 7g vs 8g is waaaaay different than usdm 7g vs 8g.

usdm 8g's are heavy, comprimised platforms with little performance potential.
wheras the 7g......
has a world of performance potential. no matter how far you want to take it, there are a plethera of parts to choose from for any modification.

Well, I'm from NZ, so it would be JDM :P

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Originally Posted by Jasmine

Well, I'm from NZ, so it would be JDM :P

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this i know,
but i was jsut clarifying for all the stateside members who are posting

the 8G and the 7G have the same stuff AWD and TT, so they are the same stuff. i personally like the look of the 7G over the 8G.

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Originally Posted by Jasmine

Sorry, not looking at any other generations, I didn't really like my 6G much :lol:

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blasphemy :P

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Originally Posted by kolio

the 8G and the 7G have the same stuff AWD and TT, so they are the same stuff. i personally like the look of the 7G over the 8G.

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no they arnt,

7g, 2L twin turbo (tdo25s) with AWD,

Max.power (Net), kw(PS)/rpm 240 ps (176.52 kw) / 6000 rpm
Max.torque(Net), N*m(kg*m)/rpm 31.5 kg*m (308.91 N*m) / 3500 rpm


8g, 2.5L twin turbo (tdo3s) with AWD, ASC, AYC, TCL.

Max.power (Net), kw(PS)/rpm 280 ps (205.94 kw) / 5500 rpm
Max.torque(Net), N*m(kg*m)/rpm 37.0 kg*m (362.85 N*m) / 4000 rpm

Don't worry you guys, I've decided to go for a Legnum VR4 :D

Good decision :)

I would have to test drive both to see which I liked. Both JDM 7gs and JDM 8gs look hot though, no comparison to the fugly 7g/8gs.

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Originally Posted by Gly

no they arnt,

7g, 2L twin turbo (tdo25s) with AWD,

Max.power (Net), kw(PS)/rpm 240 ps (176.52 kw) / 6000 rpm
Max.torque(Net), N*m(kg*m)/rpm 31.5 kg*m (308.91 N*m) / 3500 rpm


8g, 2.5L twin turbo (tdo3s) with AWD, ASC, AYC, TCL.

Max.power (Net), kw(PS)/rpm 280 ps (205.94 kw) / 5500 rpm
Max.torque(Net), N*m(kg*m)/rpm 37.0 kg*m (362.85 N*m) / 4000 rpm

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That may be Gly, but the AYC is a bitch, and the rest of that crap you don't need, plus it add all the weight. My brothers VR-4 legnum feels alot slower than my 7 G VR-4.
Plus my 7G kills most cars on a hill run, including 8G VR-4's, due to them having all that crap that slows them down ;)

you don't like 6g vr4's..... the father of the lancer evo wrc cars. :(

that's ok.... to each his or her own. :)

the 4G63 in the 6g vr4 has a lot of potential when it comes to motorsports.

the 6g vr4 is i think the lightest and the most agile vr4.

the 6g vr4 is the best.... but thats just me.

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Originally Posted by vr6

you don't like 6g vr4's..... the father of the lancer evo wrc cars. :(

that's ok.... to each his or her own. :)

the 4G63 in the 6g vr4 has a lot of potential when it comes to motorsports.

the 6g vr4 is i think the lightest and the most agile vr4.

the 6g vr4 is the best.... but thats just me.

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AMEN to that pare!

The E39a Galant VR4 was the first car the legendary 4g63t was put in. During its time it was ahead of its time in the technology and performance and still to this day can match up to many of the cars of today. Won many awards world wide because of that reason.

Yea, but the 6G and 7G are fundamentally different species...

The 6g is a 4 banger, so you can't really compare it to the 7 or 8g, however, the 6g is the only true rally VR-4.

I like the back ground in your pic Goku, im sure I've seen those hills before :)

I do like the 6g as well.
2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8 would be my pic of any car.

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Originally Posted by kolio

7G's are lighter, and are more aero-dynamic

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Actually both have the same coefficient of drag.... .29

I could say from my personal experience, sence i have a 7g and 8g....i find the 7g made with better quality overall. You sit in it and you fill that every component in the car is high quality and sophisticated. Very strong!!. The 8g i find it very weak. Everything inside is made with hard plastic including that troublesome dashboard. It's like mitsubishi made the 8g with the idea to save money in the production line. That's just me

i think if we all had the money we would get all the generations in VR4, not just regular 6, 7 and 8g's. but actual VR4s. i would shit... perfomance wise they all can do something, that JDM apperance in all models blow my mind away. but thats me.

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Originally Posted by dmdvzla

I could say from my personal experience, sence i have a 7g and 8g....i find the 7g made with better quality overall. You sit in it and you fill that every component in the car is high quality and sophisticated. Very strong!!. The 8g i find it very weak. Everything inside is made with hard plastic including that troublesome dashboard. It's like mitsubishi made the 8g with the idea to save money in the production line. That's just me

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Yes 7G was made and designed in the "bubble period" of Japan and cars coming out during those years are mechanically and aesthetically over the top and very awesome.

FACT, the 7G Galant pioneered the 4WS system, later used in the 3000GT
FACT, the 7G Galant pioneered the V6 quad cam layout, which is later upgraded and used in the FTO and 8G Galant
FACT, the 7G Galant is the first Galant to get the fully automated climate control system standard
FACT, the 7G Galant is the first Galant to sport in-cockpit adjustable suspension (with Touring and Sport mode), later dropped in the 8G Galant for cost reduction
FACT, the 7G Galant VR4 dashboard is soft and feels really good to the touch. Knock on it and it responds softly like a drum surface without making much noise.
FALSE, the 7G Galant VR4 has TCL if it is automatic (it is embedded in the auto tranny "brain"). It does not have AYC because 4WS serves that purpose. The 4WS is just as, if not more so, sophisticated system than the AYC it incorporates steering crank angle sensor, yaw sensor and ABS speed sensors to make a rear steering decision.
FACT, the 7G Galant VR4 tips the scale at 1450kg when the 8G Galant VR4 weights over 1610kg because of the super heavy AYC system, 2 airbags and a much heavier chassis sheet metal overall. The chassis strength and overall design of weight beams and aprons have not changed significantly from 7G to 8G.
FACT, the 7G Galant VR4 F/R weight distribution is at a respectable 57:43 whereas the 8G is nose heavy to go over to 60:40 mark because the airbags and AYC unit are located near the front axle. Whereas the 7G 4WS is behind the gas tank.

went head to head with a 8G VR4 down the straight away 0-170 there is little to choose between the two, but fuel economy is bound to suffer with the 8G because when you stop you have to idle a 2500cc engine versus idling a 1990cc engine.

For mod possibilities, if you have a 7G 6A12TT and a standalone engine management, you can swap FTO's MIVEC engine head onto the 6A12TT with very little fuss, manage THAT and you'll have an engine that will sing tunes all the way to 8500RPM still wanting to get some more. If you pull that off then you'd have a fully modern engine that is comparable to EVO9s - aluminum head iron block MIVEC turbo engine! How awesome is that!

6A13 is non-MIVEC and the 6A12 MIVEC head won't fit that. The TD025 turbo on the 6A12TT can also be replaced with Trust's (that means Mitsubishi's) TD025R which has a much better A/R with zero modifications to anything else, while maintaining excellent boost lag-less characteristics.

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Originally Posted by hk20000

FACT, the 7G Galant pioneered the 4WS system, later used in the 3000GT

FACT, the 7G Galant is the first Galant to sport in-cockpit adjustable suspension (with Touring and Sport mode), later dropped in the 8G Galant for cost reduction

The 4WS is just as, if not more so, sophisticated system than the AYC it incorporates steering crank angle sensor, yaw sensor and ABS speed sensors to make a rear steering decision.

FACT, the 7G Galant VR4 F/R weight distribution is at a respectable 57:43 whereas the 8G is nose heavy to go over to 60:40 mark because the airbags and AYC unit are located near the front axle. Whereas the 7G 4WS is behind the gas tank.


6A13 is non-MIVEC and the 6A12 MIVEC head won't fit that. The TD025 turbo on the 6A12TT can also be replaced with Trust's (that means Mitsubishi's) TD025R which has a much better A/R with zero modifications to anything else, while maintaining excellent boost lag-less characteristics.

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4WS was in the 6G vr4 first,

it was removed because its rubish and when it breaks(and it does) if bloody expensive to repair

umm yeah ok? 4ws only works below 50kph, the ayc works ALL the time, and uses more sensors than BASIC 4ws
most people i know of remove 4ws (those who have had it) and most people i know of with AYC upgrade it,

actually the only part of the eyc thats near the from on the car is, the ECU,
the rest of it is in the rear diff, and the pump for the hydralic part of it is loacted in the left rear corner under the car,

actually the 6a12/13 blocks are the vertually the same, so this a mivec 13 could be done,

it must be nice for you to THINK you know everything

the 8G has more bolt-on crap available, but the 7G has way more tuning potential and useful options, by a long shot.

get a jdm civic yo

yes 6G galant had 4WS sorry about that.

otherwise 7G galant is a hidden gem in the hay stack. For the most part, cops can't care less about your car. a 8G Galant is a lot more heaty somehow.