Stock Headers?

[Alister_McRae]

I was just wondering, does a 2000 ES 4 cyl galant come stock with headers?

[toc8g]

All cars have a exhaust manifold. The Fed Spec. 8G Galant does sorta look like a aftermarket header but it is not. It does have allot better flow then the Cali spec. exhaust Manifold.

[Alister_McRae]

The reason i ask, is because i bought my car used, and i thought my car came stock with headers, but when i look at other peoples pictures they all have manifolds (stock). So the person before me who sold it to the dealership must have had headers put in....cool stuff! :thumbsup:

[NRG]

Hmmm, not necessarily. They might have just taken off the heat shield and you might of thought it looked different.....

[Alister_McRae]

maybe that too, never thought of that, i new my headers looked kinda small

[toc8g]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Alister_McRae)</div><div class='quotemain'>The reason i ask, is because i bought my car used, and i thought my car came stock with headers, but when i look at other peoples pictures they all have manifolds (stock). So the person before me who sold it to the dealership must have had headers put in....cool stuff! :thumbsup:</div>


They just now started making a header for the I-4. So unless they just bought the header and put it on or had a custom one made which I highly doubt the header on the Galant was aftermarket,...you have a Fed. Spec Galant that has a very small, and I do mean small heat shield.
IF someone not familiar with a 8th Gen 4G64 Fed spec Exhaust manifold could possibly think it was a after market header. Everyone I showed my engine to have always thought I had a aftermarket header but,...its not. It would be very easy to mistake this. I have owned a Fed Spec Galant and a Cali spec. I am well versed in the 8th Gen 4G64 engines and their differences. I will see if I can come up with a picture for you. I know Mira had some pics of her oem header painted and damn if it didn't look aftermarket.

[toc8g]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(NRG)</div><div class='quotemain'>Hmmm, not necessarily. Â*They might have just taken off the heat shield and you might of thought it looked different.....</div>

On the Cali Spec if you take off the shield the exhaust manifold looks like a pile of dookey their is no mistaking that what your looking at is oem.
On the Fed Spec their is "NO" Heat sheild to take off, I mean its a small thin piece of alluminum,...and then on some others its a little bigger triangular peice but still nothing that really covers anything I would say its about as big as a sandwitch.

[NRG]

Unless you painted the cali spec headers..... Or kept the heat shield on and painted that......

[toc8g]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(NRG)</div><div class='quotemain'>Unless you painted the cali spec headers..... Or kept the heat shield on and painted that......</div>


No, no,.....your not understanding me here,... What is under the shield of the Cali Spec is not the same as whats on the Fed spec Galant. Its like night and day. and the heat sheild on the Fed Spec and the Cali spec look nothing alike. One is small and the size of a sandwitch and the other is covering the whole manifold. And for the I-4 its Header andnot headers,..
we only have a header, the V6 has headers. Ok back to the the point. Its like this,..the Cali spec exhaust manifold looks like a deformed thich cast iron looking ugly beast thing thats all rough looking. The fed spec Exhaist manifold looks almost like the Kamikaze Header but with no 02 sensor and has a sheild thats the size of a toast bread. So you see their is no way you could ever get the two mixed up.

[toc8g]

These are pics of my old 2000 Galant, which was a fed spec.

http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291...258072569&idx=7


http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291...256940383&idx=6


http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291...56940524&idx=42


This is a picture of my 2002 Cali Spec Galant.

http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291...56940537&idx=48

Now you see that engine bay,..thats a cali spec engine bay and you don't see the manifold do you. And if you could it looks nothing like the fed spec Galants. Nothing at all.

[cdaw2001ES]

I'll be damed, my dealer had this suspicion, and you just confirmed it. I wound up with a cali spec -- in Ohio. There is a cat like right there under that heat sheild, very close to the manifold, and another under the car.
No wonder my E-check results were so good.

[Fishboy55]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(cdaw2001ES)</div><div class='quotemain'>I'll be damed, my dealer had this suspicion, and you just confirmed it. I wound up with a cali spec -- in Ohio. Â*There is a cat like right there under that heat sheild, very close to the manifold, and another under the car.
No wonder my E-check results were so good.</div>Yea your echeck results are good and your horsepower is bad. The cali specs have less horsepower and more restricted airflow than the fed specs. I've got a 2000 cali spec GTZ too in Maryland. Course, it ain't cali spec anymore... But even with the precat off and headers I still got good emission results.

Chip

[rumpl_forskin]

DAMNIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just checked mine and I have Cali Spec. SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rounder:

[pinoyesv6]

2001+ galants were all cali spec cars, no matter what. the 1999 and the 2000 had a handful of fed spec cars but the majority, especially the 2k's were cali spec. the reason they're called cali spec is because they pass california's really strict emissions standards. many other states also meet cali's standards

[BassmanLN]

wait wait wait... my 96 has the big triangle heat shield. does this mean its cali spec too? i live in indiana. does this mean i have a pre cat that i can take off? which means.. more horsepower?? someone tell me if i do from this pic. sorry it doesnt show much i took it to show the filter. if it is cali im excited! i wanna take that stuff off! http://www.geocities.com/bassmanln/airfilter.html its down at the bottom

[Auto-9]

Ah so they began the change to all Cali with Galants first eh...I saw one (and only one) 2001 model Eclipse Fed spec...lucky bastard

[toc8g]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rallifan)</div><div class='quotemain'>Ah so they began the change to all Cali with Galants first eh...I saw one (and only one) 2001 model Eclipse Fed spec...lucky bastard </div>

I wasn't gonna say anything but Allan is right and wrong,....
The 2001's were not all Cali Spec,..their are some 2001 Fed spec Galant/Eclipse. But they were definatly all Cali spec by the end of production for the 2001's.

[Black2k1GTZ]

Theres nothing wrong with a cali spec engine. You are doing the environment a deed by keeping your emmisions lower. Also if you go with a set of headers...you will be getting more horsepower for your money!!!


Marc :mg:

[Fishboy55]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Black2k1GTZ)</div><div class='quotemain'>Theres nothing wrong with a cali spec engine. You are doing the environment a deed by keeping your emmisions lower. Also if you go with a set of headers...you will be getting more horsepower for your money!!! Â*


Marc :mg:</div>

LOL, that's funny Marc. Yes you're doing your part to save the environment if you have a Cali spec car. But if you put headers on, you've just negated that environmental savings by removing the precats. So let's see....more HP or save a tree? Hmmmmm I'll go with the HP!!!

[toc8g]

Yeah,..I am for more hp!!! But I am still doing my part by keeping my main cat!!!