The car is acting like it's running on 2 cylinders, is that a symptom of a clogged cat ??
I mean I'll get under the car and unbolt the exhaust and give it a shot.
I checked that the MAF sensor is plugged in but I didn't swap it out with another one to see if it is bad or not.
Rpm gauge shows that the car is idling at 100rpm or less that's why it looks dead
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Or just take it to "your" mechanic,if not others would just take advantage of you and try to rip you off
I haven't stepped a foot in a shop in well over 2 years but worst case senario and I can't figure this one out then I will go to the shop that I used to deal with for years which is a well-known honest shop
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it was a bad coil, oddly this started happening before i swapped in those used coils, so i swapped back my original coils, its fixed but i know one of my current coils is acting up so i need to get my hands on another set very soon.
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bump up again, so after i swapped out a newer set of coils from my friends galant that i know for a fact are good coils since he bought them not too long ago, the car started misfiring again. rpm gauge dancing all over the place. we swapped out the reluctor sensors and that didnt make any difference, the more accessories i turned on the lower the voltage dropped. at normal operation it runs at 13.9-14.0v and when i turn the headlights on it goes down to between 13.6-13.2v and with the heat on it drops down to 12.9v and thats when it starts misfiring and shaking and rpm dancing.
we suspected the alternator could be bad and we had a brand new one on the shelf so i replaced that and it still didnt help at all.
im at a loss and i cant connect the dots and figure out whats wrong.
so definitely not a clogged cat since i drove it today for about 50 miles running errands all day and by the end of the day on my way to my friends house it misfired badly that i ran it for about a mile to my friends house on 2 cylinders only
Last edited by spdracr; 12-08-2010 at 11:58 PM
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Have you disconnected the exhaust before the cat yet to be certain it is not plugged?
Thats the same exact problem i stated. and its happening because circuit has a short some where. and one thing im thinking about is your battery location. Its deff a ground or maybe even power. I would go through your engine bay and check for lose grounds. and why not throw the battery up front if it isnt hard for you to do. take some pictures of your battery wires.
I went through the same exact thing cylinder 2,3 and would misfire to the point my coil pack would burn up. That was only when i had the loads on or drove for a wile with some loads on. ended up replacing alt, batt, coilpack for nothing.
and also i went under my car and beat the hell out of my cat cause i smelt what i thought to be rotten eggs lmao
Last edited by Exhaust power; 12-09-2010 at 09:28 PM
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Spd frk: No I didn't undo the exhaust cuz she came back to life as soon as I replaced the coil the night before and drove it all night with my headlights radio and heater on without a problem. A clogged cat wouldn't magically go away and come back and like I said I have a nasty voltage drop which is causing my misfire issue
exhaust power: I have a distribution block in my engine that has all the wire that used to be on the positive terminal of the battery and a 2ga running inside the car all the way to the battery. My negative is a 4ga or 8ga I'm not positive on that and it's screwed into the inside of the trunk over the tail light
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Missfires means bad spark plugs, bad coils, or bad grounds. Since you bring it back to life after replacing the coils, BUMB you find the problem. Now check for any cut wire in the coils, it may be the problem.!
My Mk4 is like a Black Hole you enter in it and who the hell knows what'll happen next???
I sure don't, do you?
But the misfires only happens when the voltage drops and the voltage drop happens when I turn my headlights and heater on or anything that would cause a load on the system. So the question is what's causing the voltage drop.
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Bad ground or not enough ground, bad distribution block, bad + cable, bad battery
The more load maybe takes away voltage or current away from either ECU or coils that prevents it from firing correctly.
Pull the plugs and inspect the strength of the spark, not the spark plug but the spark itself. Compare between when it misfires and when it runs good
when you turn on electric components does the sputtering misfire get worse? do you burn up coil packs? check the ground cable that goes from the throttle cable bolts to the firewall.
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Ivory what do u mean am I burning coil packs ?? The ground on the throttle cable plate is connected. I wanna change it to 8ga eventually.
I had a lil chat with stewi over texts after I read mko's comment. He suggested I switch my negative wire to a 2ga and choose a different grounding spot. So I think I'm gonna go after that and see what happens.
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Yep ^ exactly that
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Well lucky me everytime it did I was getting ready to go somewhere not while I was driving beside the night I posted about it again which was the only time it happened while driving and I drove roughly a mile with it misfiring but that's right before I replaced it with the other coils
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I forgot to update this.
I went ahead and replaced my ground cable from an 8ga to a 2ga like stew have suggested and chose a better spot to ground it and still didn't make a difference
Then I decided to play with the ground cable that goes between the throttle plate and the firewall and that was actually my problem, for some reason it was functioning properly since I installed it about a year ago and now it didn't.
Replaced that with an 8ga cable and now I'm running 13.9v-14.1v with everything turned on.
Now I have an oil leak that I can't trace lol
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