Right Hand drive DOHC owners - Gauges just for you FREE! :-) [Archive]

Rasko Da Gama

11-14-2003, 02:30 PM

Since I always keep my promises, I finaly took a few hours off and made White face gauges for Right Hand Drive DOHC owners. Actually, you can thank to Bluedraco, becouse he was the one who sent me scaned gauges and made this possible... well I made it possible in the end https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif but you all know what I mean. I hope these gauges can be usefull not just for Bluedraco, but also for any of you Australian... and other JDM 6G owners who have a right hand drive DOHC... https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif

This is how it goes:
Click on a picture to get a ful sized Gauge. Save it, and than print it out directly from Adobe Photoshop since measurements are made in this software. Exact size is 15.7 x 13.0 centimeters at 300dpi.
Use High quality Photo paper and a good one HP Deskjet or Epson Stylus color printer.

Anyone who'll make this, post some pictures, I would be honored :wink:

BONSAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Speedo
http://www.mobisux.com/album/data/500/19448DOHC_Gauge_Speedo_Final-med.jpg ('http://www.mobisux.com/album/data/500/19448DOHC_Gauge_Speedo_Final.jpg')

Tacho
http://www.mobisux.com/album/data/500/19448DOHC_Gauge_Tacho_Final-med.jpg ('http://www.mobisux.com/album/data/500/19448DOHC_Gauge_Tacho_Final.jpg')

MidNightRacing

11-14-2003, 02:39 PM

:shock: Whoa for a minute there i thought it went to 240 mph! Shiii! :!:

bluedraco

11-14-2003, 02:59 PM

hey mate

they look really really nice...thanks for taking the time to edit those gauges i scanned you to come up with this...congrats on such a great job!

i have a few questions though:

1) you say to print them out on high quality paper...won't this prevent the light at night from coming through?

2) if i print them out on high quality paper, do you mean, photo quality paper?

3) once printed out, do i just remove the old ones and put these on top of those "clear" spacers that are underneath the original gauges?

and just to let you know...when i had my mazda mx6, here in australia, i was actually the person who designed and MANUFACTURED white guages for that particular car...i printed in on a transparant backing which then went on a thin white perspex and was a complete replacement for the original gauges...the reason i'm asking you is that the original gauges in the galant are much much thinner than my mx6 ones were so the perspex that i can get my hands on isn't thin enough....

4) do you have a picture of what it looks like at night?

let me know...and again, thanks for taking the time to make them...now if you can answer my questions maybe i can actually get them installed! https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif

Rasko Da Gama

11-14-2003, 03:24 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bluedraco)</div><div class='quotemain'>hey mate
they look really really nice...thanks for taking the time to edit those gauges i scanned you to come up with this...congrats on such a great job!</div>
Well thanx https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bluedraco)</div><div class='quotemain'>
i have a few questions though:
1) Â*you say to print them out on high quality paper...won't this prevent the light at night from coming through?</div>
No it won't. I printed them out on Photo paper and actually the problem is that the light shines through too much :wink: I have to figure out the solution for this. But I am sure that here on TGC we'll come out with something 8)
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bluedraco)</div><div class='quotemain'>
2) Â*if i print them out on high quality paper, do you mean, photo quality paper?</div>
Yes :wink:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bluedraco)</div><div class='quotemain'>
3) Â*once printed out, do i just remove the old ones and put these on top of those "clear" spacers that are underneath the original gauges?
</div>
That's right. But as I said before, you'll see shades from the whole mechanism... We'll have to figure out a solution for this soon https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bluedraco)</div><div class='quotemain'>
and just to let you know...when i had my mazda mx6, here in australia, i was actually the person who designed and MANUFACTURED white guages for that particular car...i printed in on a transparant backing which then went on a thin white perspex and was a complete replacement for the original gauges...the reason i'm asking you is that the original gauges in the galant are much much thinner than my mx6 ones were so the perspex that i can get my hands on isn't thin enough....
</div>
Damn, I think I saw a tutorial when someone made White face gauges of Electroluminescent paper - and it was on some Mazda... That was sooo HOT :shock: Was it You? :?:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bluedraco)</div><div class='quotemain'>
4) Â*do you have a picture of what it looks like at night?
</div>
Sorry, but I didn't made it yet. I'll post it as soon as I borrow that digital camera again :wink:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bluedraco)</div><div class='quotemain'>
let me know...and again, thanks for taking the time to make them...now if you can answer my questions maybe i can actually get them installed! Â*:)</div>
You better get them in... These were made mostly becouse of your help :wink:
It's nice to see that people appriciate your work. Like in the other post, when Pro sniper posted pictures of The same gauges I have. https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif
Those posted pictures are the biggest Thank you for me https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif
Cheerz, good luck and post some pictures when done.

bluedraco

11-14-2003, 03:33 PM

here is a picture of the gauges i made installed in my car:

http://bluedraco82.customer.netspace.net.a...Picture021a. jpg ('http://bluedraco82.customer.netspace.net.au/Picture021a.jpg')

here are a few pictures of them at night:

http://bluedraco82.customer.netspace.net.a...Picture032a. jpg ('http://bluedraco82.customer.netspace.net.au/Picture032a.jpg')
http://bluedraco82.customer.netspace.net.a...Picture033a. jpg ('http://bluedraco82.customer.netspace.net.au/Picture033a.jpg')
http://bluedraco82.customer.netspace.net.a...Picture035a. jpg ('http://bluedraco82.customer.netspace.net.au/Picture035a.jpg')
http://bluedraco82.customer.netspace.net.a...Picture036a. jpg ('http://bluedraco82.customer.netspace.net.au/Picture036a.jpg')

that's right...i made these and actually sold quite a lot of them to people here in australia who also had the same car...

anyway, what do you think of those? they looked VERY cool at night! https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif

bluedraco

11-14-2003, 03:49 PM

oh yeah, i forgot to ask...

during the day, are the lights behind the "check engine" and "Park" and "door open" symbols still visible? if they aren't then i'll have to work something out (perspex, etc) as all those warning lights need to be visible during the day as well as the night...

Rasko Da Gama

11-14-2003, 06:04 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bluedraco)</div><div class='quotemain'>oh yeah, i forgot to ask...

during the day, are the lights behind the "check engine" and "Park" and "door open" symbols still visible? Â*if they aren't then i'll have to work something out (perspex, etc) as all those warning lights need to be visible during the day as well as the night...</div>

Yes, that lights are visible very well at daytime. Dont worry :wink:

Now, please tell me how did you made these? What's the secret? Is this printed out on Electroluminescent paper?
http://bluedraco82.customer.netspace.net.au/Picture033a.jpg

bluedraco

11-14-2003, 06:49 PM

i actually made this using my friend's tools...he has a $70,000 laser cutting machine and expensive printers...

basically, they are white perspex (transparent, but very strong white) which we cut with the laser machine to the correct shape and size...we then printed the gauges out on TRANSPARENCY (sp?) paper which we then aligned and stuck over the cut perspex...

this was a big job...there is no way it can be done as nicely without using the correct tools and materials...

nothing much else i can tell you as i bet that you don't have one of those machines sitting in your garage alongside your galant! https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif

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bluedraco

11-14-2003, 07:05 PM

oh yeah, another thing...i put little "bulb sleeves" over the top of the bulbs that go behind the gauges...they were coloured blue that is why it is a nice blue/aqua sort of colour https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif

marktheblake

11-14-2003, 07:37 PM

Would this work?

Get one layer of plastic, and print it in reverse colours, so that the background is black,but the numbers and lines etc are not painted at all. this will mean the back light will only come tthrough the spaces that were not painted black.

then the next layer of plastic is white, and printed the numbers etc in the desired colours. Then you overlay the 2nd layer over top of the first. So you should have white gauges in the day, and it at night only the numbers glow.

bluedraco

11-14-2003, 08:30 PM

yes, that would work...however, the lighting wouldn't be as good and it is also A LOT more work to set it up (something which i personally wouldn't be bothered with)! https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif

bluedraco

11-14-2003, 09:16 PM

well i printed them out exactly how they were in photoshop and it made them too small (had already cut them and found out, argh!)...

anyway, i've resized them in photoshop to 15.7x13 and they are the right size now...i should have them installed shortly and i'll update with another post then...

edit - it might have something to do with the fact that you edited them thinking they were 300dpi when the scanned images that i sent you were actually 360dpi (that's what i scanned them in as)! https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif

bluedraco

11-14-2003, 10:17 PM

ok, i just put them in the car then...they look great, and while the warning lights aren't quite as bright as before (for obvious reasons) they are still easily noticable...

overall they look REALLY nice...they suit my white galant really well (just like my white gauges on my white mx6 did)!

8)

tonight i'll be able to see how it looks at night...i'm currently running some "blue" sleeves on my bulbs but i have some green ones i can try if these don't work too well with these new gauges...

so far so good! https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif

Rasko Da Gama

11-15-2003, 05:44 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bluedraco)</div><div class='quotemain'>well i printed them out exactly how they were in photoshop and it made them too small (had already cut them and found out, argh!)...

anyway, i've resized them in photoshop to 15.7x13 and they are the right size now...i should have them installed shortly and i'll update with another post then...

edit - it might have something to do with the fact that you edited them thinking they were 300dpi when the scanned images that i sent you were actually 360dpi (that's what i scanned them in as)! Â*:)</div>

:shock: Strange. I opened them again in Photoshop3 minutes ago and the sizes are what I actually said they were :roll: 15.7x13cm

Anyway, I'm glad you like them... for now. But you'll see that in for back-lights we will still have to figure something out.
But in general, it's nice to hear that you like my work https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif

Marktheblake! What about you? These gauges can be suitable for you too right? You have a right hand drive DOHC too right?

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marktheblake

11-15-2003, 07:17 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rasko Da Gama)</div><div class='quotemain'> Marktheblake! What about you? These gauges can be suitable for you too right? You have a right hand drive DOHC too right? https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif</div>

I have a SOHC, and they are the best gauges i have ever seen. however not a perfect fit, sorry https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif
- my gauge only goes to 220kmhwhich is at 3 o'clock - just like yours.
- You have a high beam indication on the Odometer gauge, in that spot mine is not used (its allocated to '4WS')
- Anti lock is in the same spot but I dont have that feature in my car.

Ok, the last 2 are minor issues. In my Operators manual it shows that for both normal and VR4 Galants both have a 220k gauge. So either Bluedraco (whose gauges you scanned) has a different year or he has a JDM.

Rasko Da Gama

11-15-2003, 09:29 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(marktheblake)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rasko Da Gama)</div><div class='quotemain'> Marktheblake! What about you? These gauges can be suitable for you too right? You have a right hand drive DOHC too right? https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif</div>

I have a SOHC, and they are the best gauges i have ever seen. however not a perfect fit, sorry https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif
- my gauge only goes to 220kmhwhich is at 3 o'clock - just like yours.
- You have a high beam indication on the Odometer gauge, in that spot mine is not used (its allocated to '4WS')
- Anti lock is in the same spot but I dont have that feature in my car.

Ok, the last 2 are minor issues. In my Operators manual it shows that for both normal and VR4 Galants both have a 220k gauge. So either Bluedraco (whose gauges you scanned) has a different year or he has a JDM.</div>

If you take your gauges out, scan them with at least 300dpi, and send me files by e-mail :wink: Guess what :idea: :roll: https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif
I'll make another one for you m8 and other Right handed SOHC owners :wink:

Send them to: [email protected]

pinoyesv6

11-15-2003, 09:59 AM

a tip with the paper, since i've been there...done that.

choosing paper. yea, use a high quality product. i used a high quality photo paper and after a year, the gauges started to yellow. kinda expected cuz the paper is exposed to the sun, heat, cold, etc etc. so yea use a high quality material.

choosing the material. make sure its thin, what im saying is, don't try to use something too thick like carboard or you can restrict the meedle from moving.

if you want to get an estimate of the amount of light will shine thru, bring a flashlight with you to the store. stick the material in front of the flaashlight and see how much light shines thru.

you aren't limited to just photo paper. you can use colored paper, transparency film, hell you can even use those papers that have that pre printed patterns on it if there is one you really like. jsut make suer that the paper isn't flimsly and make sure the light shines thru. high quality guys, remember.

i dunno if you guys have to pull the needle off to put these gauges in or not but if you are, you can enlarge the hole for hte needles ever so slightly so they can slip over and still not be visible. i guess you'd have to cut your stock gauges off if u didn't want to pull ur needles off.

bluedraco

11-15-2003, 01:47 PM

well, my galant is a HG 1990 model...

isn't JDM something to do with being a Jap import or similar? coz my galant is fully japanese made and assembled...

bluedraco

11-15-2003, 04:02 PM

Rasko - today has been sunny so i checked out my gauges and i've noticed that the warning lights aren't actually too readable at all https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif

it's probably not a good thing as one day the oil warning light might come on and because it's hard to see (unless i deliberately make an effort to look) it might pose a problem...

for example - my check engine light came on yesterday when i still have the stock gauges and i noticed it THAT moment...however, with these new gauges i can't see it unless i stare at it (and that's not a good sign)...

i'm still very very happy with them...don't get me wrong, i'm not really complaining, i'm just looking for some way to get around this...any ideas?

oh yeah, and at night time, the gauges actually look sweet...i'm happy with them entirely! https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif

i'm just worried about the daytime readability of these warning lights https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif

pro_sniper

11-15-2003, 09:16 PM

I'd have to agree with that, Bluedraco.
I was out driving today, and I noticed when I stopped and engaged the handbrake, that the light was just bearly visible in daylight. If there had been sunlight I probably wouldn't have seen it at all.
As bluedraco said, this is not a complaint Rasko!! https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif

We just need to figure out some way to make the light shine through...
I was thinking maybe I can cut out a square section from the bottom of each gauge, and replace it with an equally-sized section of see-through foil with print on it.

I printed mine on a rather heavy type of photo paper though. I guess I should try printing it over again with some really thin photo paper and see how it goes.

Those warning lights is the only thing that I'm unhappy with, otherwise the gauges ROCK!!! 8) And I think they look great in the dark too, there's this green glow coming from the bulbs behind the gauges that make them look almost like EL-glow. It's hot! https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif

pro_sniper

11-15-2003, 09:32 PM

Yet another set of EL-glo gauge faces from procarparts.com!
These are not reverse glow like the ones in the first post of this thread.

http://www.procarparts.com/store-detail.as...X%2DXXRP%2DGG6X ('http://www.procarparts.com/store-detail.asp?sku=MIT%2DGAL%2D9293%2DWHXX%2DXXRP%2DGG 6X')

The kmh readout is better than on the other two sets, but I don't know if I will be comfortable with them at first. I think they would be awkward for a while before I get used to them....

Personally I think this "full-glow" set of gauges looks better than any of the two reverse glow sets. They don't look as good as the ones Rasko made for us, but I'm thinking that at only $29 they're worth trying since the warning lights will function like on the original gauges with these. If I can't get the lights to operate properly with thin photo paper, I guess I'm buying these.... https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif

Jan Kenneth

pro_sniper

11-15-2003, 09:47 PM

Oh my, three posts in a row, I'm just on a posting spree tonight!!! https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif

I guess I forgot about the advice I came up with myself in the other/old gauge thread:

Replacing the warning lights' bulbs with some slightly more powerful ones. I'll try that out before doing any more work on my beautiful white gauges! https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif

Yeah, I'll definitely try this one out.... 8)

Jan Kenneth

marktheblake

11-15-2003, 11:16 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rasko Da Gama)</div><div class='quotemain'> If you take your gauges out, scan them with at least 300dpi, and send me files by e-mail. Â*I'll make another one for you m8 and other Right handed SOHC owners Â*</div>

No need :-)
The gauges you made an emailed to me some time ago are identical to mine in regards the Speed numbers. Apart from need to rename a couple of warning lights.
Yes, the fuel and temp needs swapping, but thats a simple process in Photoshop, especially for a genius.

but dont sweat it now on my behalf. I would rather wait until this issue of what to print em out on gets sorted. Plus i still have to R&R the front of my car, and a million other things.

Has anyone considered just placing the new gauge over the top of the old one?

bluedraco

11-15-2003, 11:29 PM

nah, that won't work mark...it would be even worse then! https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif

i'm definitely going to be "putting up" with them for now...but the moment i can find a "fix" then i will do that! https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif

oh yeah, and another thing, these gauges will probably go "yellow" over time...they will fade, etc with the heat coming from in the car and start to wrinkle...this may take 3 months, 12 months or 2 years but it WILL happen one day...

it's easy for me to go down to my old workplace and get them laminated (and just have to cut the holes out again) but i'm happy with it for now - just wanted to let you guys know! https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif

marktheblake

11-15-2003, 11:33 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bluedraco)</div><div class='quotemain'>well, my galant is a HG 1990 model...
isn't JDM something to do with being a Japanese import or similar? Â*coz my galant is fully japanese made and assembled...</div>

well thats obviously the reason your dial is different than mine, earlier model.

All Galants in Australia were Japanese assembled. However JDM - Japanese Domestic Market vehicles are those that were sold retail in Japan and then imported in the 'grey' market. Unfortunately Galant is not on the approved list for grey import, so unlike the plethora of Silvias and Skylines in this country you wont see any JDM Galants driving around, unless they are 15 years + old. There is no restriction on importing cars 15yo.

Rasko Da Gama

11-16-2003, 05:00 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(pro_sniper)</div><div class='quotemain'>...We just need to figure out some way to make the light shine through... Â*
I was thinking maybe I can cut out a square section from the bottom of each gauge, and replace it with an equally-sized section of see-through foil with print on it... Â*:lol:</div>

That would be a good idea https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif Hmm... Now - how to make it... :?: :roll:

pro_sniper

11-16-2003, 08:24 AM

You know how you can have a document copied onto a see-through plastic sheet for use on overhead projectors? There are special versions of those sheets available (even in my local bookstore), that are designed for being printed on by INK printers. It works really good, you can print color on them and everything.

As a matter of fact, I think it would work just fine having the gauges printed on this kind of plastic and then getting a white foil with adhesive on one side (for background) and stick'em together.

I've got lots of ideas going on right now, I'll try the bulb replacement first I think.... https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif
If that works then I have no more worries.

Jan Kenneth

marktheblake

11-16-2003, 08:50 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(pro_sniper)</div><div class='quotemain'>As a matter of fact, I think it would work just fine having the gauges printed on this kind of plastic and then getting a white foil with adhesive on one side (for background) and stick'em together.</div>

I have read about that exact theory before, except it was just two plastic sheets, one white and one clear. Cant recall whether its here on TGC or somewhere on that Google thing.

In any case I am wondering, you still need to prevent a way for the light to not shine through the gauge, just the lettering. I dont think this idea will stop this?

pro_sniper

11-17-2003, 09:37 AM

Right guys...

I went to every garage there is today. https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif
None of them had stronger bulbs of the size I needed. However: at the last garage I went to, there was a great selection of different colored bulbs of the right size.

So I bought a couple of <span style='color:red'>red</span> plastic that used to sit behind the gauges, because the light is already red when it's emitted from the bulb. This worked very well! The warning lights shine much stronger. https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif

Still, I'm having the gauges printed over again on thinner photo paper. That should make the lights shine even stronger than they did originally, which would add to safety.... (yeah right, but it's nice to have an excuse) :wink:

Also, I bought <span style='color:blue'>blue</span> look is so much hotter than green, and gives even more of an EL-glow appearance.

Jan Kenneth

jeucken

11-17-2003, 10:20 AM

Pictures? https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif

Rasko Da Gama

11-17-2003, 10:28 AM

pro_sniper

11-17-2003, 11:13 AM

Come on Pro-sniper... Pictures please https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif
Don't you see the whole mechanism behind the gauges? Is it really cool when you used those blue bulbs?

I'm not sure I can get my low-life, cheap, old, rotten digital camera to capture the difference properly. But I'll give it a shot later tonight if I can find the time. My priority tonight is to go see the guy with the photo printer to make new gauges on thinner paper. You believe that?? https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif

And I don't see the mechanism behind the gauges. Even though the red plastic behind the gauges is gone, the photo paper gauge still covers the mechanism you know. I haven't done any cutting in the gauge face! https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif

The blue background light bulbs don't shine as brightly as the green ones, so it looks more subtle. It's not a huge difference, but I like it better.

Jan K

bluedraco

11-17-2003, 02:56 PM

i was thinking of doing similar things and tried the following:

1) different coloured bulbs - could only find the *bigger* sized bulbs in different colurs (the 5 of them sitting behind the tacho/speedo) but couldn't find the single smaller one behind the speedo so this didn't work out...

2) tried finding sleeves that i could put over them...the car came with green sleeves on all the bulbs, including the little one...unfortunately, i couldn't find a replacement sleeve for that little speedo globe - only the bigger size and a smaller size (which wouldn't fit)...

so i'm stuck using the stock "green" sleeves - however, with these Rasko gauges it actually shines YELLOW (when when i had 5 of the 6 blue sleeves on it shined aqua)! lol

if you look at the picture i posted a few posts back you will notice that my mx6 gauges look sort of aqua colour...that was with BLUE sleeves (dark blue) but for some reason it came out aqua (half blue/half green) even though there was nothing else affecting the colour...it goes to show that every time i have used these sleeves, they have given a different colour than what they look like! https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif

note: none of these above were to do with the warning light gloves, just the speedo/tacho globes...

as for the warning lights - i can't find any stronger globes anywhere for them...however, i might try removing those red covers - is this easy to do?

pro_sniper

11-17-2003, 03:51 PM

as for the warning lights - i can't find any stronger globes anywhere for them...however, i might try removing those red covers - is this easy to do?

Sure it's easy. You remove a couple of the bulbs for the warning lights, and stick a screwdriver in from the back to loosen them. Do it gently or I think they could possibly break. Now lift your new paper gauge a little, and you'll get your hands on the red plastic cover. Just pull it off and you're good to go.

And if you can't find the red bulbs anywhere, try coloring some on your own. It's not that hard, but you need to find a suitable paint. Buying pre-colored ones are probably your best option though, so if I were you I'd keep searching.

Jan Kenneth

pro_sniper

11-17-2003, 03:59 PM

I took two pics. As you can see I pasted a small section of one picture into the other. The main pic shows the left gauge where I've removed the red plastic behind the gauge and replaced two of the bulbs with red ones. Shines brightly. The pasted section shows the right side, where the red plastic is still in place and still using the original bulbs.

As you can see there is a significant difference even when it's dark. In daylight, the left ones that I replaced outperform the rest. And just to make it real clear; the watt figure of the red bulbs is the same as on the original bulbs, the only change is the glass is colored.

I'm done cutting the new, thinner paper gauges, so I'll try them when Letterman's Late Show is over. There are some things in life you can't do without, and Dave is good fun on an otherwise boring monday night https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif

Jan Kenneth

http://www.bilunderholdning.no/tgc/speedo6.jpg

Rasko Da Gama

11-17-2003, 04:32 PM

This is a big difference for sure https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif
I might try it out, but I'll wait a little for now. Guess what. Today I got a phonecall of one guy who wanted to buy my car several months ago. Anyway - he didn't buy it then (obviusly https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif ) and bought another car - a small Renault 5 LOL https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif
So, he crashed it the other day and today he called me and asked if the car is stiil for sale :shock: I was like - I don't know - if the price is right then OK. So we agreed that he will call me in about two weeks when he gets the money from insurance and he asked me not to sell it to anyone since he would like it so much... OK, I said, come with the money and we will talk further.
I wouldn't sell it for nothing in the world if that 1990 Galant GTi wasn't still avalible - so if everything goes well - I might become a DOHC owner at last https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif

We will see about that - I just don't wanna be happy too soon since I was in similar position before...

Of course - You m8s will be the first to know :wink:

pro_sniper

11-17-2003, 05:37 PM

Update:

Using the one gauge that haven't had the red plastic strip behind it removed yet, I replaced the gauge face with one made from a lot thinner photo paper. The difference was bearly noticeable. I should add that it's quite dark outside now, and the results might be better in daylight(...doubt it though...).

But it seems chasing the "right" type of paper for the job is not the way to go. Bulb replacement IS! Either find stronger bulbs, or remove the red plastic thingy and get colored bulbs. Stronger and colored bulbs ARE availabe even in the most remote corners of the world - and hey, I should know, I'm in one of those corners. https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif

Go ask your local garages and auto suppliers, don't be afraid to ask them to check catalogs and call their distributor contacts.

Yes, they come at a price, I had to fork out approximately $3 per bulb. But they are likely to last longer than the car will, and it's a small price to pay to make sure you know when the oil warning light lights up on a sunny day.... :shock:

Jan Kenneth

J apmetal

11-17-2003, 05:47 PM

I'm gonna try these on my Guages as soon as I get chance - altho I'm pretty busy with other stuff at the mo [including trying to sort my tinted rear clusters !] so I dont know when that will be.

I have one small problem tho; my warning lights arent actually in the dial faces like you guys' they're mounted in a separate strip just below ! Now, from reading this I might find this a godsend [no messing about trying to get them showing right] but I dont know if this means my gauges are a different size !

More investigation will follow soon, I think :idea:

pro_sniper

11-17-2003, 06:53 PM

I have one small problem tho; my warning lights arent actually in the dial faces like you guys' they're mounted in a separate strip just below !

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marktheblake

11-18-2003, 01:40 AM

I wonder how a 'black' light will go to light up the numbers etc?

but i guess with a white background it will still highlight the mechanism wont it.

marktheblake

11-18-2003, 07:39 AM

check this out. This guy prints out two sets of gauges. One is a black background with white numbers (ie no ink) and that goes underneath. Then his new guage design goes on top. Seems to work for him?

http://www3.sympatico.ca/rickdupuis/Pictur...stom_gauges.htm ('http://www3.sympatico.ca/rickdupuis/Pictures/SUNSET/Gauges/how_to_create_custom_gauges.htm')

OR.

Dont worry about the mechanism showing through the gauge, show the whole bloody mechanism! This sounds like crap so just look at the picture.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...item=2442947179 ('http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=43952&item=2442947179')

whaddya reckon fellas

J apmetal

11-22-2003, 04:50 AM

I have one small problem tho; my warning lights arent actually in the dial faces like you guys' they're mounted in a separate strip just below !

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My bad; they're exactly the same as in the pictures here, just didnt look right or summin I guess :oops:

marktheblake

11-23-2003, 05:33 AM

here is an example of how someone else overcame the problem of the warning light shining through the white gauges. my guess is in this case the original gauge is still there and he just used an overlay. also gotta love the extra dial in the middle, and something else on the Revs dial. I think its a knight rider LED :-)

http://www.gvr4.com/images/members//vb_91dash.jpg

Photo sourced from http://www.gvr4.com/images/members/ ('http://www.gvr4.com/images/members/')

Rasko Da Gama

11-23-2003, 04:36 PM

That thing on the Revs dial (Tacho) is only on GVR4's. LED lights, and I think they have something to do with Turbo. Something like boost gauge... :roll:

91GALANTDRIVER

01-04-2004, 07:32 AM

Do you know were i could get some for a left side driven car

Rasko Da Gama

01-04-2004, 06:49 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(wlr2002)</div><div class='quotemain'>Do you know were i could get some for a left side driven car</div>

If you mean White face gauuges - I've made ones for left hand driven SOHC Galants. If you would like to have it, just give me a PM and we will work something out.

This is how they look - click on the image for bigger picture :wink:
http://www.mobisux.com/album/data/500/19448Rasko_Custom_Gauges-med.jpg ('http://www.mobisux.com/album/data/500/19448Rasko_Custom_Gauges.jpg')[/u]

Bumpy

01-20-2004, 08:47 PM

Hmm i know this is a old post now, but iv got my VR4 just before christmas - Its a '88 JDM (Full import). I love these white guages but my speedo only goes upto 180kph :evil: i do have some extra warning lights, but there easy to add.
Has anyone modifyed a set of those nice white ones to suit a JDM VR4 (ie 180kph) ?
Also iv found a use for that middle strip of light spaces, now just have to make it all work :?

Thanks
Bumpy

Rasko Da Gama

01-22-2004, 03:58 AM

I'm sure I saw a few JDM GVR-4-s with White Face gauges and speedo going till 180km/h. Check out your local forums and similar... I am sure you can find someone with gvr-4 who can help you.
Good luck finding :wink:

You see... It was done before https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif

http://www.mobisux.com/album/data/500/19448JDM-GVR4_gauges-med.jpg

jeucken

01-22-2004, 07:23 AM

Rasko, any update on the light problem with these gauges?

Bumpy

01-22-2004, 05:28 PM

Now it would be even nicer if i could recalibrate my speedo so i can have a 240k+ one :wink: https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif

Bumpy

Rasko Da Gama

01-23-2004, 04:41 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jeucken)</div><div class='quotemain'>Rasko, any update on the light problem with these gauges?</div>

No, I didn't do anything about it yet... I am still waiting what will happen about my car now. I have a serious buy-er... I have plans with 1990 GTi https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Bumpy)</div><div class='quotemain'>Now it would be even nicer if i could recalibrate my speedo so i can have a 240k+ one Â*:wink: Â*:D Â*
Bumpy</div>

It can be done 8)

Bumpy

01-25-2004, 01:16 AM

k give me details than https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif lol

Only prob would be at 240k my VR4 must need to be doing like 6500+RPM https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/sad.gifhttps://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif

Bumpy

Rasko Da Gama

01-25-2004, 05:24 PM

I menat that you can add aditional numers to speedo - when doing custom gaues. Photoshop 7.0 will do :wink:

orangbaligila

08-18-2004, 11:47 AM

I can get hold to some right-hand drive reverse EL glow dash for 6G. price ranges from 60 - 110 US bucks without shipping (depending on currency rate). If you're interested, send me PM. currently I'm out of stock and waiting for a 2 week pending shipment. I won't stock many of them, so if you're interested, I can't guarantee you one, but I'll let you know if I have it for you. (FYI: I haven't got one myself yet,... anything comes to me was always went flying the next day https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

3diamonds

10-22-2004, 02:09 AM

LED

Why not make gauges from LED lights? that way you dont NEED to worry about different colors, or color bleed, simply replace the stock bulbs which are about to go anyway (i mean 10 yrs? lol), i can get a ton of LED's for like 10 Â¢ a pop (blue are a wee bit more++) and if we do it right we can even get a TRICOLOR led, which bacically means we can make it into any clolor (by turning on or off 3 diff colors...just like TV works) all that it will involve is a couple of resistors and 3 potentiometers (the things that portable CD players have to regulate sound, the lill wheel u turn) that way the color combos can be EASY and infinite! If someone could take a LOT of closeup pics from both sides of instrument cluster, im sure we could easily do it, and then the same thing can be woied into entire car (so everything changes universally Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy )

oh and well get a leg up on those VR4 waskos https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif j/k https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif