DryBear
09-28-2004, 01:42 PM
I was browsing the 3G Forums and read this thread:
http://www.club3g.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5672 ('http://www.club3g.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5672')
This particular reply was interesting:
you know i have been doing the same thing, looking into this particular motor swap, and it can be done without all the headaches that are being described in this post. if you were to look at the front and rear motor mounts, the front is in the same location and the rear is just an inch off where it needs to be. as for the side mounts you would have to move it from the passenger on our car, to the left and it would sit in there fine. The only drawback about our cars is that you would not be able to fit the factory turbo's in our engine bay because of the fact that you would not have clearance for the rear turbo. i have talked with a performance shop and they said that it can be done if you convert to a single turbo for better cost issues. If you want to leave it twin turbo, then what you need to do is put two smaller turbo's like the t-28 or a t-3, anything large than that you don't have the clearance in the rear. Also you will need a ecu from the vr-4 and the wire harness as well. about the whole tranny issue that is something that me and my performance shop haven't been able to figure out yet. mitsu doesn't make a six-speed that isn't all wheel drive, so you would have to use the five speed tranny. Second you can order the front end of 3000gto from japan for 1800, that include everything from the front bumper to the dashboard. you will get a complete motor, tranny, turbo, intercoolers, wiring harness, ecu, headlights, front bumer, motormounts, the whole thing. After pricing everything out with performance shop here that only works on 3000's and stealths they said that if i was to provide the motor, trany and wiring harness, and ecu, that they would do the install for 2g's. in which you would save about 1200 bucks versus the stage 3 sds kit for 5500. But at the same time i do agree with the other people that the stage 3 sds is a better value because you are looking at right about 400hp if not more by putting that kit on, where as if you do the swap you are spending about 4g's just to get to 300, because you would not have 320 due to the fact that the clearance in the rear is just not there for the 16g. But they tell me was that if i did the single turbo conversion with a bigger turbo that my output might be around 450 or so. But i was also told that the biggest issue i was going to have this swap was the troubleshooting. if anything should happen, via it break down or whatever, i'm limited to who i can take it to, and my cost for repair is going to be through the roof. So if you really want to do the swap it can be done, but you have to take in effect the issues i presented earlier.
I know that the Galant has a few more inches of clearance from the firewall than the 3G Eclipse, possibly negating the clearance issues mentioned above - what do you guys think?
http://www.club3g.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5672 ('http://www.club3g.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5672')
This particular reply was interesting:
you know i have been doing the same thing, looking into this particular motor swap, and it can be done without all the headaches that are being described in this post. if you were to look at the front and rear motor mounts, the front is in the same location and the rear is just an inch off where it needs to be. as for the side mounts you would have to move it from the passenger on our car, to the left and it would sit in there fine. The only drawback about our cars is that you would not be able to fit the factory turbo's in our engine bay because of the fact that you would not have clearance for the rear turbo. i have talked with a performance shop and they said that it can be done if you convert to a single turbo for better cost issues. If you want to leave it twin turbo, then what you need to do is put two smaller turbo's like the t-28 or a t-3, anything large than that you don't have the clearance in the rear. Also you will need a ecu from the vr-4 and the wire harness as well. about the whole tranny issue that is something that me and my performance shop haven't been able to figure out yet. mitsu doesn't make a six-speed that isn't all wheel drive, so you would have to use the five speed tranny. Second you can order the front end of 3000gto from japan for 1800, that include everything from the front bumper to the dashboard. you will get a complete motor, tranny, turbo, intercoolers, wiring harness, ecu, headlights, front bumer, motormounts, the whole thing. After pricing everything out with performance shop here that only works on 3000's and stealths they said that if i was to provide the motor, trany and wiring harness, and ecu, that they would do the install for 2g's. in which you would save about 1200 bucks versus the stage 3 sds kit for 5500. But at the same time i do agree with the other people that the stage 3 sds is a better value because you are looking at right about 400hp if not more by putting that kit on, where as if you do the swap you are spending about 4g's just to get to 300, because you would not have 320 due to the fact that the clearance in the rear is just not there for the 16g. But they tell me was that if i did the single turbo conversion with a bigger turbo that my output might be around 450 or so. But i was also told that the biggest issue i was going to have this swap was the troubleshooting. if anything should happen, via it break down or whatever, i'm limited to who i can take it to, and my cost for repair is going to be through the roof. So if you really want to do the swap it can be done, but you have to take in effect the issues i presented earlier.
I know that the Galant has a few more inches of clearance from the firewall than the 3G Eclipse, possibly negating the clearance issues mentioned above - what do you guys think?