Mante
10-13-2004, 08:19 AM
6a13tt Conversion
This will be a way for me to try to answer questions as far as successfully dropping a Galant/Legnum Vr4 6a13tt into a Usdam Galant (3gen eclipse and stratus guys this may work for you too).
From this point on remember that when I say:
Vr4 I am referring to Galant/LegnumVr4
Galant I am referring to Usdam Galant/eclipse/stratus
Required Parts:
1. 6A13tt motor (all accessories are exactly the same as US counterparts) from a Vr4 850-1000USD
2. FWD transmission (cant remember model #) from Mitsu FTO GP or GPX (auto or manual) with Axles. Chances are you will not be able to purchase the tranny separately so expect to spend up to 2,000.00 for the motor and trans. If your going manual you will need to get the required parts i.e linkage, shifter, clutch pedal?etc
3. Standalone EMS,
Haltech E6X NEW EMS US $1,069.00
E6X Connector Kit: US$64.00
3 Bar MAP Sensor (Turbo 30psi max): US$127.00
Waste Gate Solenoid (Electronic Boost Controller): US$76.00
Electronic Boost Control Trim: US$50.00
4. I4 owners will need to purchase the V6 sub-frame 100.00 from a junkyard and have 2? spacers added to the undercarriage with longer bolts. As well as the V6 wiring harness
5. Take the accessory belts and timing belts to a local parts store and match them up. Its so much easier to do while the motor is on a stand.
Misconceptions:
This section is based on rumors from person?s that have no clue, have never seen a 6a13tt or have yet to decide to ask the one person that has gone this far?cough
1. This motor will drop directly into a USDM Galant with no alignment worries, actually since the USDM model did not come with double wishbone suspension we actually have more room under the hood.
2. There is no clearance issues with the firewall and the rear turbo (td03-6c?s) upgrading to td04-9b?s is something to think about. I have not found out if the Td04-13g/15g will fit.
3. Since there is no wiring harness for the Vr4 mating the two harnesses is next to impossible, though doable for someone inclined.
4. Modifying the AWD transmission by removing the front transfer case will destroy the transmission. Same principal that 1/2nd gen GSX owners have pressed upon me. But if you must go ahead, when you hear a ?whurring? sound you know the transmission is dead.
Installation:
1. Remove the following: Engine/transmission, axles, sub-frame front bumper, both fenders. I4 owners will now want to replace the wiring harness at this junction too.
2. A 2.5? hole will have to be cut into the car to allow the inter-cooler piping to route down on the passenger side. The battery will also have to be moved to behind the driver-side headlight.
3. Install the 6a13 with the FTO transmission, plug in all existing components of the wiring harness. Everything else will be connected to the EMS (stock boost controller solenoid, coil packs ( I believe this is referred to as a wasted spark setup)) while its still in the air install the axles and reassemble the braking system. Leave off the body panels
4. Install the EMS. If your comfortable setting the haltech go ahead its pretty much plug and play.
5. Lastly custom exhaust work, 3" is enough for most if 4" is needed..wow I'll be speechless.
Why didn?t I finish this conversion: Simple I have a Vr4 to play with now https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif
This will be a way for me to try to answer questions as far as successfully dropping a Galant/Legnum Vr4 6a13tt into a Usdam Galant (3gen eclipse and stratus guys this may work for you too).
From this point on remember that when I say:
Vr4 I am referring to Galant/LegnumVr4
Galant I am referring to Usdam Galant/eclipse/stratus
Required Parts:
1. 6A13tt motor (all accessories are exactly the same as US counterparts) from a Vr4 850-1000USD
2. FWD transmission (cant remember model #) from Mitsu FTO GP or GPX (auto or manual) with Axles. Chances are you will not be able to purchase the tranny separately so expect to spend up to 2,000.00 for the motor and trans. If your going manual you will need to get the required parts i.e linkage, shifter, clutch pedal?etc
3. Standalone EMS,
Haltech E6X NEW EMS US $1,069.00
E6X Connector Kit: US$64.00
3 Bar MAP Sensor (Turbo 30psi max): US$127.00
Waste Gate Solenoid (Electronic Boost Controller): US$76.00
Electronic Boost Control Trim: US$50.00
4. I4 owners will need to purchase the V6 sub-frame 100.00 from a junkyard and have 2? spacers added to the undercarriage with longer bolts. As well as the V6 wiring harness
5. Take the accessory belts and timing belts to a local parts store and match them up. Its so much easier to do while the motor is on a stand.
Misconceptions:
This section is based on rumors from person?s that have no clue, have never seen a 6a13tt or have yet to decide to ask the one person that has gone this far?cough
1. This motor will drop directly into a USDM Galant with no alignment worries, actually since the USDM model did not come with double wishbone suspension we actually have more room under the hood.
2. There is no clearance issues with the firewall and the rear turbo (td03-6c?s) upgrading to td04-9b?s is something to think about. I have not found out if the Td04-13g/15g will fit.
3. Since there is no wiring harness for the Vr4 mating the two harnesses is next to impossible, though doable for someone inclined.
4. Modifying the AWD transmission by removing the front transfer case will destroy the transmission. Same principal that 1/2nd gen GSX owners have pressed upon me. But if you must go ahead, when you hear a ?whurring? sound you know the transmission is dead.
Installation:
1. Remove the following: Engine/transmission, axles, sub-frame front bumper, both fenders. I4 owners will now want to replace the wiring harness at this junction too.
2. A 2.5? hole will have to be cut into the car to allow the inter-cooler piping to route down on the passenger side. The battery will also have to be moved to behind the driver-side headlight.
3. Install the 6a13 with the FTO transmission, plug in all existing components of the wiring harness. Everything else will be connected to the EMS (stock boost controller solenoid, coil packs ( I believe this is referred to as a wasted spark setup)) while its still in the air install the axles and reassemble the braking system. Leave off the body panels
4. Install the EMS. If your comfortable setting the haltech go ahead its pretty much plug and play.
5. Lastly custom exhaust work, 3" is enough for most if 4" is needed..wow I'll be speechless.
Why didn?t I finish this conversion: Simple I have a Vr4 to play with now https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif