DIY TUTORIAL: Auto to 5spd swap for 7G

[peanotation]

http://socallifestyle.com/tutorial/tutorial.html ('http://socallifestyle.com/tutorial/tutorial.html')

if you read any swap errors, any confusing parts, or any technical problems with the webpage, please post a reply or email me

[email protected]

[peanotation]

Parts List + Budget ('http://socallifestyle.com/tutorial/partslist.html')

again, please let me know of any technical webpage problems. hand writing html doesn't always work for everyone.

Few notes ('https://www.thegalantcenter.org/viewtopic.php?t=32498')

[LJM9000]

I love you peo

[BlankMan]

Great job and info for the G community... wish someone would do the same for the 8g...

J

[8G_GTZ]

matt this will come usefull in the future for me. thanks man...

steve

[josh_877]

Thanks man, i think alot of ppl will be more willing to do this swap now. https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif

[JiP]

hey peno, I always read that your suposed to ziptie the cable under the shifter assembly that prevents you from turning the key unless its in park down to something so that the car thinks its always in park. Since you just removed them all together I'm assuming it kinda defaults to thinking its in park just not being connected to anything?

[peanotation]

hey peno, I always read that your suposed to ziptie the cable under the shifter assembly that prevents you from turning the key unless its in park down to something so that the car thinks its always in park. Since you just removed them all together I'm assuming it kinda defaults to thinking its in park just not being connected to anything?

well, i just removed both of the mechanical cables that ran to the auto shifter, and no problems at all yet. can take the key out at any time, can start the car in gear (with clutch in though, obviously). its like a brand new hyundai: no safety to or catch for turning on the car, just make sure it's in neutral :wink:

[seth98esT]

I "heard" if you leave it in park then remove the cables you will be fine. Dont know if its the truth or not, just heresay https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif

[datdude305]

good job now do the I4 8G https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif

[uplaya101]

im glad to see a real in-dept tutorial that dosnt have to do with headlights or somethin like that.

very nice job peno

[peanotation]

these were originally scanned for mindless, but they'd be helpfull to anyone. these are all the service manual pages pertaining to the clutch or manual transaxle for a 94-95 galant. it'd probably be the same for anyone with a 96 or up.

http://socallifestyle.com/tutorial/pages.html ('http://socallifestyle.com/tutorial/pages.html')

[jusmills]

Good stuff man...how is the car running now that you did the swap...ie have you taken the car out through the paces yet or still taking it easy?

[peanotation]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jusmills)</div><div class='quotemain'>Good stuff man...how is the car running now that you did the swap...ie have you taken the car out through the paces yet or still taking it easy?</div>

no, clutch broke in on tuesday or so, the car is amazing.

https://www.thegalantcenter.org/viewt...pic.php?t=32763 ('https://www.thegalantcenter.org/viewtopic.php?t=32763')

also, the SS teflon line is working great. it was actually my biggest fear for failing, but it's perfect.

[JiP]

Exactly why is there a clutch fluid resevior in the DOHC engine version, and why is the clutch pedal spring setup different in the DOHC version? The sohc pedal has just a return spring while the DOHC has a big ass "turnover spring"

[seth98esT]

FYI for the inhibitor switch on a 97/98, You can just cross the two thick black/red and black/blue striped wires. They are in the middle of the switch, on oppossite ends. Had to try a few different combonations to figure that out :lauging:

[ViciousLord]

SUCCESS!!! auto to manual complete

[peanotation]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ViciousLord)</div><div class='quotemain'>SUCCESS!!! auto to manual complete</div>

awesome, get any pics? was my tutorial helpfull?

[ViciousLord]

well i spoke to soon.... i got the car running by push starting... im having problems with the starter.... the starter doesnt engage the flywheel it just free spins right now it could be one of 2 things (yes i bought a starter for a 5spd) starter doesnt reach the flywheel from the side to turn it or its to high off the flywheel.... that findaza flywheel (8lbs.) does make a difference

[peanotation]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ViciousLord)</div><div class='quotemain'>well i spoke to soon.... i got the car running by push starting... im having problems with the starter.... the starter doesnt engage the flywheel it just free spins right now it could be one of 2 things (yes i bought a starter for a 5spd) starter doesnt reach the flywheel from the side to turn it or its to high off the flywheel.... that findaza flywheel (8lbs.) does make a difference</div>

haha, push starting, that's awesome :thumbsup:

i feel your pain though, i went through about 5 starters before i actually got one that worked. i was in starter HELL for a few weeks. this is going to be a retarded question, but are you sure the flywheel is flush against the crank? i dont see how you could've gotten the tranny on with it being installed right, but who knows.

did you match up the flywheel inside the bell housing? this problem is wierd, you might want to return the starter and buy another one from another store. starters are like women, they're all bad and when you find a good one, you can't trust it.

[seth98esT]

I had that same problem with the starter not engaging the flywheel, but this was when I was using my auto starter. I installed a 5spd starter(from a 95 I think) and it engages now. You could always schim the starter gear so it sticks out farther.

[ViciousLord]

well i found the problem..... it was 2 things: i was sold the wrong starter and flywheel..... the flywheel is from an 2g AWD i ordered a 2g turbo FWD.... and the starter was my fault i took what they gave me, i realized it was wrong when i was under the hood....lol

[peanotation]

how do the FWD and AWD flywheels differ?

[ViciousLord]

the AWD flywheel is smaller in diameter....

best part about this whole thing is that i return it because its been 2 months..... i asked for a FWD he typed up for an AWD.... paper work says AWD.... but i know what i asked for...

[95mitsu03]

I just realized I bought a 2g turbo AWD flywheel, damn it has to have been over 3 months ago. ANY problems to run a AWD flywheel? would the flywheel make a difference??

[seth98esT]

Its smaller in diameter therefore you would either have to mod the stock starter or somehow use an awd starter. Not even sure if that would work, just sell it and buy a FWD flywheel, make things easy on yourself :wink:

[95mitsu03]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(seth98esT)</div><div class='quotemain'>Its smaller in diameter therefore you would either have to mod the stock starter or somehow use an awd starter. Â*Not even sure if that would work, just sell it and buy a FWD flywheel, make things easy on yourself :wink:</div>

something I did not want to hear :cry: . any suggestions of flywheels?

[peanotation]

i have the act street-lite. pretty fucking solid. get the fidanza, more expensive, but 3-4 pounds lighter. everyone loves it.

[ViciousLord]

the AWD flywheel is smaller in diameter the starter is not going to be able to catch the flywheel to turn it.....

yeah i got the findaza flywheel.. 8lbs... real light.... but theres only one down fall to this flywheel, your will decelerate quietly..... i love it.... you'll just have to learn a new way of driving....

[krazienluv10]

wow great job on the tutorial.... i felt like i was there.... :wink:

[polo13199]

does anybody know of anywhere in NY that will do the auto to 5spd swap. I don´t have the space tools or the room to do it myself. Although I would love to but. I can buy the parts if need be and have someone else do it if anyone knows where i can get it done.

[brandon]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(polo13199)</div><div class='quotemain'>does anybody know of anywhere in NY that will do the auto to 5spd swap. I don´t have the space tools or the room to do it myself. Although I would love to but. I can buy the parts if need be and have someone else do it if anyone knows where i can get it done.</div>

DO NOT multiple post.

[Sleepervr-4]

Thought I might add this since people are having problems when using old shift balls and forks. If your shift fork doesn't look like this you need to adjust it with shims or you will have problems with your clutch.
http://www.roadraceengineering.com/eclipsetech/clutch/armcentered.jpg

and this is the pic to adjust the pedal
http://www.roadraceengineering.com/eclipsetech/clutch/2g-clutchadjustment.jpg

[Proto]

Back from the dead. Seth had a trick with cross member in when putting in the 5 speed, I did this and it worked out well.

[peanotation]

UPDATE: reverse wires added to tutorial at the very end.
http://socallifestyle.com/tutorial/reverse_wires.jpg

[bronxbombr]

nice!

[Blue Ice]

UPDATE: reverse wires added to tutorial at the very end.
http://socallifestyle.com/tutorial/reverse_wires.jpg

what do you connect them too!!!

[Blue Ice]

never mind :oops:

[seth98esT]

The sensor on the top front of the trans. Would have to have the original pigtail/connector or use generic connectors from autozone.

[Blue Ice]

The sensor on the top front of the trans. Would have to have the original pigtail/connector or use generic connectors from autozone.

i didn't notice it the first time i looked at the pic, but it's in the bottom right corner of the pic.

[seth98esT]

Correct sir!

[Galanttuner10]

ok i had no problem finding most of the parts but i cant seem to find the shift cables or shifter assembly if ne1 knows where 2 find these parts plz let me know

[seth98esT]

Junkyards are your best bet. You can use shifter cables and shifter base assembly off of 2g Eclipse too. Shifter cables would have to be from a 2g GST/GSX/GS Spyder, cannot use the 420a shifter cables.

I am using shifter cables from a 98 GST right now in my car. They are a tad too long, but they work just fine.

[Galanttuner10]

alright thank you very much

[bignasty]

Did have to use the instrument panel from the donor 5speed galant? I ask this because i will give the list that you have from the ebay 5 speed galant stuff to a junkyard to see if they can beat the price before i go around finding stuff on my own.


http://socallifestyle.com/tutorial/mparts.html

[seth98esT]

You dont have to. Only difference is that some Auto Galants had the PRND21 on the cluster. Think only the older ones do, my 98 did not.

[bignasty]

I have another question: I know you have to unbolt the bolt that connect the transmission and motor. Once i do these does it come off or do i have to force it off? I want to cover everything because i will not have in shop tech support so i want to have as much info so i will be prepared for everything. I seem to always get the worst case when doing things.



What are some common things people forget to do for this swap?

[seth98esT]

huh? You have to unbolt the trans from the block, then all 3 of the trans mounts. After you disconnect the axles, trans cooler, and wiring, you can pull the trans out.

[peanotation]

yeah, you'll figure it out. look at what you're doing and you'll know what to do

[ViciousLord]

i did the swap. it was pretty straight forward. the only problem i had was the dealer gave me the wrong flywheel and flywheel bolts.

[bronxbombr]

if you can, take alot of pictures so you know how to put it back together.

[koji464]

Q- So if you found a 7g that has all oem M/T parts with it could you just drop in and play(clutch plate flywheel, clutch slave,and so on)??

[mko]

yeap, Id just give the clutch a really good inspection before reusing it

[koji464]

94 through 97?

[mko]

94-98

[McLabia]

Im debating about picking up a 7g that has tranny issues. Figured since Ill need to rebuild it, Id rather go this route. Since I know how OLD this thread is, and I didnt want to start a new one, I was curious if 1) Youre still around for questions. 2) How many of the prices/links are current 3) How much easier is it to do this now a days.

[peanotation]

1- yup
2 - actually, everything's probably cheaper now days, but all links should work. prices and parts still relative.
3 - still just as easy as it was before