Header for our 7g's from the 2g eclipse's. Will they work?

[Joaltava]

first i'd like to clarify you getting a header, not headers(not to sound like a dick). only cat back you will get is a custom bent one. i have intake, high flow cat, and a DTM style muffler. it is very loud and only ricey past 4k. just for your information. hope that helps

steve

Or you could get a 2g fwd catback if you have a 7g. It fits on every hanger except the back one, just need to make the one on the end of the muffler 2 inches longer. You also need to add about 4 inches of pipe so you can connect it to the cat. A muffler shop will do all that for about $15.

Joe

Guys after searching on ebay and other places i have found two companies that state they sell the 2g header on ebay for cheap price.
here there are

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...item=7969241182 ('http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7969241182')
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP..._PcY_BIN_Stores ('http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7969039366&ssPageName=MERC_VIC_RSCC_Pr4_PcY_BIN_Stores')

They state that this header will fit the 4g63 engines, and from what some people tell me is that they will mount up but i will have to mod the dowmpipe

Can anyone confirm this for me
and is this correct

[pinoyesv6]

the only 2g models that had the 4g63 were the turbo models.

the only n/a motor that hte 2g eclipse had that would have headers that would fit the 7g is the spyder. but the spyder didn't have the 2.0L but the 2.4L

[Joaltava]

dude you are correct, i never thought that they stopped making the 4g63 after 94, i guess i didnt do my homework in regards to that, the worst part is that the companies told me that these header will work on the engines of the 63.

Now let me get something right

The 4g63 was put on the models from 1990-1994 only

[pinoyesv6]

they still make the 4g63. it was using in the evo's and the 2g eclipse. but they were the turbo models.

the 1g eclipse had the 4g63 in a n/a version but not the 2g or 3g eclipse.

[peanotation]

the 2g eclipse TURBO manifold will bolt up to your block fine. however, it's not going to do much good considering you don't have a turbo and you'll have to get a down-pipe made from the manifold to your flex pipe. basically, not worth it considering the power gains will be pretty non-existant. maybe you might get something, but for the money you'll be spending, not worth it.

the RS/GS eclipse comes with the 420a motor. not a 4g64.

the only headers that will fit are from the 2G spyder 2.4L. it's questionable if you will have to get a custom pipe made again. but good luck finding headers for the eclipse spyder.

basically, you have to get the RPW headers from vision imports. RPW = great company. vision imports = currently competing for the worst company of the year award.

[Joaltava]

see man this is my problem
i want to put a header in my car but the problem is i dont find them, the only one i found was these from OBX
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...TRK%3AMEWA%3AIT ('http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=7963886353&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT')
but from what i have read everyone says that they are bad header, but what i dont understand is obx says that will give the header a lifetime warranty on them.
I personally think thats awsome

[Joaltava]

yeah i have hear about those headers from RPW, but what i have heard also is that they are really expensive

[bradley1997]

yeah i have hear about those headers from RPW, but what i have heard also is that they are really expensive




They are 575 shipped from vision imports. I just talked with them earlier today.

[Joaltava]

thaks man but $575 dollars for headers that will only give me like 10-15hp is not worth it. the most i will pay is $250 tops.

[bradley1997]

That 575 comes with the downpipe also. It is kind of spendy but I have heard good things about their headers. I have also talked with RPW personally and they said if you aren't happy with your local dealer "Visionimports," you can buy through them. They are in Australia though so who knows how much faster their shipping would be then Vision.

[peanotation]

obx says that will give the header a lifetime warranty on them.
I personally think thats awsome

yeah, it sounds awesome. i dont know if OBX will cover a warranty of a product sold via private sale, since ebay is a private seller middle-man. also, just because it says lifetime warranty, doesn't mean they will actually care when you go to file for your warranty. i've bought so much stuff that came with a "warranty" but when i tried to claim damage on that warranty, the company would wiggle their way out of it or say that i had a rare problem they can't cover.

and i highly doubt you'll ever see 10hp from headers on our engines. and didn't mindless say something about how these won't fit??

[Mindless]

obx says that will give the header a lifetime warranty on them.
I personally think thats awsome

yeah, it sounds awesome. i dont know if OBX will cover a warranty of a product sold via private sale, since ebay is a private seller middle-man. also, just because it says lifetime warranty, doesn't mean they will actually care when you go to file for your warranty. i've bought so much stuff that came with a "warranty" but when i tried to claim damage on that warranty, the company would wiggle their way out of it or say that i had a rare problem they can't cover.

and i highly doubt you'll ever see 10hp from headers on our engines. and didn't mindless say something about how these won't fit??

OBX will not (In my experience) honor a warranty even if it's coming from the seller especially if the header is not specifically for your car.

The 8g header will bolt up but you need to be aware of:

1) The DP will not work so you will have to get one custom bent. Or if you can weld you can buy the bends and flanges and make your own.

2) The header might rub the oil pan. I say might because I have an 8g header on my car and iy did rub the oil pan when I was trying to put it on. The header had to be bent to clear the oil pan.

There's other stuff but I can't remember right now. Check the other thread you made. I think I covered everything there.

[gottmanMR]

Get the shortie header from obx, that will be your best bet. Total bolt on with some horse power increase, no tuning needed, and no messing with the down pipe. When you get the long tube header, tuning will definitely be needed or you'll be running rich. Long tube header equals investing in SAFC II, catback exhuast, either bigger injectors or FPR, and O-2 sim. Draw back to long tube header are decrease in gas mileage and a decrease in low end torque. But the gains are mainly seen in the mid to upper rpms.

[Joaltava]

ok guys check this out

i have found some headers for the 00-04 galants 4 cylinders
from what i have header these will bolt but i will have to get a custom down pipe. Now they are OBX which everyone here says they are bad, but i think for the price they are pretty good.

Check it out
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...sspagename=WDVW ('http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7969306775&category=33631&sspagename=WDVW')

[peanotation]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Joaltava)</div><div class='quotemain'>ok guys check this out Â*

i have found some headers for the 00-04 galants 4 cylinders
from what i have header these will bolt but i will have to get a custom down pipe. Now they are OBX which everyone here says they are bad, but i think for the price they are pretty good.

Check it out Â*http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7969306775&category=33631&sspagename=WDVW</div>

well if everyone here says they are bad, despite the price, they are still bad. a great price doesn't make a shitty product good.

[Import_Beast]

kind of unrelated but a friend of mine is in the process of turboeing his early-mid 90's accord, and he said he was using a 14b turbo off the 2g eclipse and the manifold off the eclipse..is it possible to fit the eclipse headers on the accord? ...if so wouldnt in theory the accord headers also fit on the galant?

[peanotation]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Import_Beast)</div><div class='quotemain'>.is it possible to fit the eclipse headers on the accord? </div>

well we'll certainly know when he tries to put them on https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif i highly doubt it though

[Joaltava]

well the only way to find out is by someone measuring the distance of the mounting holes from the accord and the galant and then comparing to see if they are alike, not to mention if the manifold will go dowm enough not to hit the engine block itself. But first which year accord suposely the header will work on out g's

[Import_Beast]

i left him a message to call me back cuz im not sure exactly what year...but i did a quick search and came up with these

http://www.superhonda.com/forum/archive/in...p/t-117938.html ('http://www.superhonda.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-117938.html')

http://www.accordtuner.com/board/showthread.php?t=5404 ('http://www.accordtuner.com/board/showthread.php?t=5404')

http://www.highaltitudeimports.com/t25227-...integra-96.html ('http://www.highaltitudeimports.com/t25227-would-a-talon-manifold-fit-an-integra-96.html')

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?cmd=p...print&id=505368 ('http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?cmd=print&id=505368')

[Joaltava]

from what i read the accord models vary from 1990-1996 models i think cause on the last post it show a 94-96 model accord, i have also been some research but on pics of manifolds from accords and from the 8g and they both look the same.

The only way to find out is if the header will work, now i have a friend that i can persuade into buying headers for his accord and then i will try to bolt them on i guess.

[Joaltava]

damn sometimes i write too fast and get lost on my own words

what i meant was

the only way to find out is if someone buys the header off the accord and mounts them on a G, now i have a friend that i can persuade into buying the header for his accord and i can try those out on my 7g

[Import_Beast]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Joaltava)</div><div class='quotemain'>damn sometimes i write too fast and get lost on my own words Â*

what i meant was Â*

the only way to find out is if someone buys the header off the accord and mounts them on a G, now i have a friend that i can persuade into buying the header for his accord and i can try those out on my 7g</div>

Go for it..ima try to talk to my boy to see if he's willing to let me test fit it

[krazienluv10]

rpw is direct bolt on for the 7th gen... it comes with a flex pipe for use in the 8th gen i think but u "can" use it for the 7th since its bigger then stock i guess ur just gonna need to weld it .... you shouldnt need to do anything else, my flex is still in the garage, but yea...vision rarely has them...they usually order them when u place an order.... from australia to them then to u...

[Joaltava]

ok krazie whats the price on the rpw header, to my understanding $575 shipped, its too much in my opinion

[peanotation]

well you can pay $575 and get the best headers made for our car.

or you can pay $180 and get pieces of shit that may not even fit and require some custom work.

[pinoyesv6]

why are u guys stressin over the accord headers?

i mean the 1g eclipse headers will bolt on. the 3g eclipse/8g galant headers will fit. just gotta customize the downpipe. we know they'll bolt onto the engine so why go out and make some bloody knuckles to try to bolt on some accord headers and then end up making a custom downpipe??

[bradley1997]

This is just my opinion, but I would rather pay the extra money to have something done right the first time. RPW is the only header that is specifically designed for our cars (7g), plus it's an awesome product. You could save a couple hundred doing it the other way and jimmy rigging it to work but in the long run I don't think it would be worth it.

[krazienluv10]

i try to sell my header, but nobody wants it... when someone wants it its installed on my car... :? https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif thinkin of letting it go for 250 shipped...still pondering on it though

[Joaltava]

well krazie, which header do you have that your are tying to sell, is it rpw.

Also i think $575 for the header and downpipe is too much, all i will get is what 15-20hp more, for that i just go ahead and save $500 additional dollars and go and buy a 4g63t engine at the junkyard and have that put in and it will give me a shit load more power then the header ever will, i rather spend $200 tops for a header which i will basically have for only one year since i plan on buying the 4g63t engine in one year.

since i know i wont be able to get a header for that price i might as well just stay stock now and save up the money for the engine which comes later on the year.

[peanotation]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Joaltava)</div><div class='quotemain'>since i know i wont be able to get a header for that price i might as well just stay stock now and save up the money for the engine which comes later on the year.</div>

exactly