power folding help

[galantv600]

well, pretty much waht it says on top. anyone that can help me hook up my jdm power folding mirrors. thanks

[Reelax]

what help do u need? a little too general of a question... maybe if you were a little more specific it would be easier to answer.

[galantv600]

damn sory about that

well i have the mirrors with wires to a connector. obviously it doesnt match up to the OEM harness, so i needa know what to do to hook it up properly!! then i have the whole piece to move mirrors close them open them move left right up and down, BUT it wont match up with OEM so what do i ahve to do to make it work properly!?!

[GOOSEY2099]

Its mad simple, just contact me via AIM later tonight and i'll help you out

[neel9]

are the jdm mirrors direct bolt on o need modifications..??

[GOOSEY2099]

Direct bolton

[galantv600]

direct bolton to an extempt.. the wiring has NOTHING in relatiosnhip... :cry:

[neel9]

know that its bolt on but...so the wiring is hard or?..

[galantv600]

its complicated since harnesses are differnet and such.. much wiring is involved!

[triggermauve]

I'm sorry your mirrors are possibly heated mirrors. Please wait for a while.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(galantv600)</div><div class='quotemain'>its complicated since harnesses are differnet and such.. much wiring is involved!</div>

[GOOSEY2099]

Its not that hard at all, i did it on my car and i did it on franks car. Mine works with the original switch and they fold/unfold with the alarm.

[neel9]

i am thinking of ordering some but the wiring is holding me back.

[pinoyesv6]

here is the USDM galant's wiring if you want to figure it out yourself

http://home.comcast.net/~agadia1/galant_mi...rror_wiring.jpg ('http://home.comcast.net/~agadia1/galant_mirror_wiring.jpg')

the usdm galant's wiring is a 5 wire setup. 1 common wire for the mirror motor, 1 for up/down, 1 for left/right and 2 for the heat.

if your mirrors have heat also, you can just tap into the factory heat wires, i assume.

if they don't, you can tap into those heat wires and hook up your power folding there, but you are going to have to cut the wire once the wires goes in the car and hook that up to whatever controls the power open/close. the reason i say to do that is that it eliminates the task of running wires through the door for the power open/close. if you have both heat and power folding then you have no choice but to run wires through the door.

[GOOSEY2099]

The jdm mirrors have 5 wires.
orange + green = folding
the other 3 is for the up down left right

the 3 wires have the exact same color codes except they don't go together, anotherwords if the mirror has a blue wire and the car has a blue wire that doesn't mean that they go together. But its pretty simple i actually have the diagram somewhere, i made it as i installed my mirrors. If anyone needs is i'll put them up.

[Cali]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(GOOSEY2099)</div><div class='quotemain'>The jdm mirrors have 5 wires. Â*
orange + green = folding
the other 3 is for the up down left right

the 3 wires have the exact same color codes except they don't go together, anotherwords if the mirror has a blue wire and the car has a blue wire that doesn't mean that they go together. Â*But its pretty simple i actually have the diagram somewhere, i made it as i installed my mirrors. If anyone needs is i'll put them up.</div>

the actual wiring is very simple goosey has it right, and will work with the OEM switch. if you want to use the actual JDM switch, which is what i did, it gets a little more complicated because the switch itself has about 12 wires. this allows you to control the mirror and use the jdm switch to fold them in and out. i have a write up on my computer that i made for frank i'll post it up later.

[GOOSEY2099]

If any of you guys actually manage to ge a set of these mirrors you will probably need to get the right type of glass for those because jdm mirrors are backwards. Objects in the mirror apper closer on the drivers side not the pass side. The only person i know that can get the m is frankmb.

[galantv600]

thats the problem... i have the jdm mirrors n all, with a harness but it doesnt connect onto my OEM harness on the door.. as to the switch.. i have the switch n all, but NO harness to it... so i guess thats whats making it hard on me https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif

[Reelax]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(galantv600)</div><div class='quotemain'>thats the problem... i have the jdm mirrors n all, with a harness but it doesnt connect onto my OEM harness on the door.. as to the switch.. i have the switch n all, but NO harness to it... Â*so i guess thats whats making it hard on me Â*:(</div>

the hard part is almost out of the way at least (running wires though the rubber door jamb sleeve) just tap into the wires from the doorside harness and then the switch taps into the harness under the dash. u just need a wire tester, a wire stripper and some solder/soldering iron. i suggest you do not cut off the OE harness plugs on your car (u can cut off the mirror ones since they are JDM) in case you wanna go back to stock someday. you will however have to run 2 wires though each door for the folding motors.

[GOOSEY2099]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(galantv600)</div><div class='quotemain'>thats the problem... i have the jdm mirrors n all, with a harness but it doesnt connect onto my OEM harness on the door.. as to the switch.. i have the switch n all, but NO harness to it... Â*so i guess thats whats making it hard on me Â*:(</div>

Cut the original harness and work from that point on

[galantv600]

so rpetty mcuh leave the plastic piece, and just tap into the wires taht i got the diagram to? as to doing the folding part, i guess its not possible to put the jdm button piece on if i dont ahve the cables.. eh?

[GOOSEY2099]

In reality Why would you want to, as to Cali's post a while back he said that it wont snap in the right place. So just do it like most of us that have it did and you'll be all good

[galantv600]

im not going to use the clicking harness piece.. im saying like Reelax said, to keep the OEM one but cut the JDM one so i just tap wires from JDM to OEM leaving the plastic OEM piece intact. would that be the best solution? sorry if i sound like a newb, but i just want whats best for this project w.o having the thing i would need!!!

[Cali]

Ooo you dont have the actual harness part that goes into the switch? ouch, yea that makes it a lot more harder. https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif

just do what goosey says and use the OEM harness.

[Danger DANJ]

So, let's say you are using the OEM switch to control the up/down and left/right of the JDM mirrors. To control the power folding feature, you could just tap into the wires for the door lock actuator in the front passanger door to have the mirrors fold out/in by unlocking/locking the doors, right? If so, then I'm pretty sure you want to tap into the blue-black wire for the mirrors to fold in and the blue-red wire for the mirrors to fold out, but I'm not 100% sure on that. Anyone?

[Reelax]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Danger DANJ)</div><div class='quotemain'>So, let's say you are using the OEM switch to control the up/down and left/right of the JDM mirrors. To control the power folding feature, you could just tap into the wires for the door lock actuator in the front passanger door to have the mirrors fold out/in by unlocking/locking the doors, right? If so, then I'm pretty sure you want to tap into the blue-black wire for the mirrors to fold in and the blue-red wire for the mirrors to fold out, but I'm not 100% sure on that. Anyone?</div>

are the lock switches momentary switches? if that's the case then it won't work since the folding takes a while and the lock unlock is almost instant... there has to b a on timer or something like that installed inline. the other option is to install a on/off/on switch and hold down the button until the mirrors are fully retracted or extended.

[Danger DANJ]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Reelax)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Danger DANJ)</div><div class='quotemain'>So, let's say you are using the OEM switch to control the up/down and left/right of the JDM mirrors. To control the power folding feature, you could just tap into the wires for the door lock actuator in the front passanger door to have the mirrors fold out/in by unlocking/locking the doors, right? If so, then I'm pretty sure you want to tap into the blue-black wire for the mirrors to fold in and the blue-red wire for the mirrors to fold out, but I'm not 100% sure on that. Anyone?</div>
are the lock switches momentary switches? if that's the case then it won't work since the folding takes a while and the lock unlock is almost instant... there has to b a on timer or something like that installed inline. the other option is to install a on/off/on switch and hold down the button until the mirrors are fully retracted or extended.</div>
Crap! I was just assuming that once the mirrors were activated, they kept folding/unfolding. I'm sure the lock switches are momentary.

Roman, how do you have yours hooked up to your alarm?

[galantv600]

well, ima hook the up down side to side up, but NO idea how im goig to do the power folding part :evil:

wish me luck :roll:

[galantv600]

well, after i begun, i began to think wtf is going on?? this *diagram* has either two wires under the JDM and one under the right side ones... anyways, if neone can help itd be greatfully thanked!!! anyways here r the pics!!

Diagram
[img=http://img99.echo.cx/img99/9702/dsc000017sv.th.jpg] ('http://img99.echo.cx/my.php?image=dsc000017sv.jpg')

OEM cables
[img=http://img99.echo.cx/img99/8705/dsc000032be.th.jpg] ('http://img99.echo.cx/my.php?image=dsc000032be.jpg')
[img=http://img99.echo.cx/img99/1184/dsc000041kj.th.jpg] ('http://img99.echo.cx/my.php?image=dsc000041kj.jpg')

JDM cables
[img=http://img99.echo.cx/img99/9710/dsc000062kz.th.jpg] ('http://img99.echo.cx/my.php?image=dsc000062kz.jpg')

sorry about the pics not being so great, or hosted good just that my hoster is being gay and wont direct host, so this the only way.. click URL iitll take you to pics!

JDM VS USDM button
[img=http://img99.echo.cx/img99/3623/dsc000085fd.th.jpg] ('http://img99.echo.cx/my.php?image=dsc000085fd.jpg')
[img=http://img99.echo.cx/img99/5817/dsc000096gs.th.jpg] ('http://img99.echo.cx/my.php?image=dsc000096gs.jpg')

[pinoyesv6]

your jdm mirrors have 7 wires??

3 for the glass
2 for folding
and 2 for hte heat.

so this is what i'd do. hook up the glass and the heat to the oem wires.

then run 2 wires through the door for the folding. then i'd get either the control box for folding mirrors or a universal triddger module with timed outputs like the pac tr-7. im looking at the honda control modules since those are easy to get on ebay. about 25 bucks. they hsould run on 12v.

then i'd hook up the trigger to the ignition. mirrors open when u start the car and then fold when u stop it. another reason the door locks won't work is cuz you lock and unlock the door numerous times when you are driving. meaning you'd like have to keep your doors unlocked as you are driving or they will fold when u lock the doors.

[galantv600]

explain if you can a little better on the car starts open and car off close... https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif i like that idea since the door lock, that is bad since i drive locked and unlocked everywhere.. mostly locked tho!!! and also, i know how to do the wires to move up down side to side now.. got the diagram corrected by my budday!

[pinoyesv6]

here are 2 ways you can do it. not the power off and on but other ways. these 2 use switches.

http://www.gutterslide.com/fourthgenhatch_...ingmirrors.html ('http://www.gutterslide.com/fourthgenhatch_mirror/jdmfoldingmirrors.html')
http://www.the12volt.com/installbay/upload...Power-Foldi.jpg ('http://www.the12volt.com/installbay/uploads/Diagram-for-JDM-Power-Foldi.jpg')

here's another one if you want to figure it out using the jdm honda relay box
http://www.geocities.com/dwnlow91/JDMmirror.html ('http://www.geocities.com/dwnlow91/JDMmirror.html')

[Danger DANJ]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(pinoyesv6)</div><div class='quotemain'>another reason the door locks won't work is cuz you lock and unlock the door numerous times when you are driving. meaning you'd like have to keep your doors unlocked as you are driving or they will fold when u lock the doors.</div>
I didn't think about that since I don't lock my doors when I'm driving.

[galantv600]

well, this was the diagram given to me

JDM blue to Whtie galant
JDM yellow to Green galant
JDM White to Blue galant

now, apparently i didnt hook up the JDM blue to White galant since my G doesnt have any white cables... :roll: soo i decided well lets see how bad its doing, so i turned it on and chekced how everything worked.. i push up.. nothing.. left nothing.. down nothing.. right and it moved up... WTF :? ne one have nething to say about that>!

[galantv600]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Danger DANJ)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(pinoyesv6)</div><div class='quotemain'>another reason the door locks won't work is cuz you lock and unlock the door numerous times when you are driving. meaning you'd like have to keep your doors unlocked as you are driving or they will fold when u lock the doors.</div>
I didn't think about that since I don't lock my doors when I'm driving.</div>

uhoh.. so now whenever you see david stopped at a light... open the door and just sit in his G... https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif

[pinoyesv6]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(galantv600)</div><div class='quotemain'>well, this was the diagram given to me

JDM blue to Whtie galant
JDM yellow to Green galant
JDM White to Blue galant

now, apparently i didnt hook up the JDM blue to White galant since my G doesnt have any white cables... Â*:roll: Â* soo i decided well lets see how bad its doing, so i turned it on and chekced how everything worked.. i push up.. nothing.. left nothing.. down nothing.. right and it moved up... WTF Â*:? Â*ne one have nething to say about that>!</div>

wOw thats weird. i think the best thing you can do is get a small battery and start testing wire combinations to see which wires do what. on the jdm mirrors and then use the diagram from the usdm galant that i posted to match up the wires.

[galantv600]

thats a lil too complicated.. i dunno how to do that stuff https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif

[pLUGSNEt]

I want to see a video of the mirros folding in a outward... or pictures.. Curious how it looks

[GOOSEY2099]

What i used was (2) T528 timer+relay option one for folding and one for unfolding. these modules are triggered by either (+) of (-) from the alarm upon locking/unlocking. And its that simple. I lock my doors and they fold, I unlock my doors and they unfold. Some people from the last meet seen this work on my car i'll get a couple of videos this weekend and put them up.

[galantv600]

well, i hooked up one of them dif since there is no white cable on the G... so anyways.. why does my car have 5 cables? but only 3 work for up down side to side??? well!!!

heres how i did it

JDM blue to orange galant
JDM yellow to Green galant
JDM White to Blue galant

sooo after that happend... 3 of the switches work... my right side i have all disasembled but i havent began doing stuff to it.. so, i put swtich to left and move down, and it moves up... i click right, it moves left up i hit left n it goes down/leftwards... i was like okay wtf.. so i put right just to see what happend n i clicked right with the right sided pad and the LEFT mirror moved left!!!!! wtf!! i dunno wtf is going on https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif

[95mitsu03]

well, i hooked up one of them dif since there is no white cable on the G... so anyways.. why does my car have 5 cables? but only 3 work for up down side to side??? well!!!

heres how i did it

JDM blue to orange galant
JDM yellow to Green galant
JDM White to Blue galant

sooo after that happend... 3 of the switches work... my right side i have all disasembled but i havent began doing stuff to it.. so, i put swtich to left and move down, and it moves up... i click right, it moves left up i hit left n it goes down/leftwards... i was like okay wtf.. so i put right just to see what happend n i clicked right with the right sided pad and the LEFT mirror moved left!!!!! wtf!! i dunno wtf is going on https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif


you probaly mixed two of the wires up. it happened 2 me when istalling my mirrors. btw I am installing folding mirrors on my 7g. have not wired up the folding part of it, lol. hope you can finish your project.

[Danger DANJ]

well, i hooked up one of them dif since there is no white cable on the G... so anyways.. why does my car have 5 cables? but only 3 work for up down side to side??? well!!!

heres how i did it

JDM blue to orange galant
JDM yellow to Green galant
JDM White to Blue galant

sooo after that happend... 3 of the switches work... my right side i have all disasembled but i havent began doing stuff to it.. so, i put swtich to left and move down, and it moves up... i click right, it moves left up i hit left n it goes down/leftwards... i was like okay wtf.. so i put right just to see what happend n i clicked right with the right sided pad and the LEFT mirror moved left!!!!! wtf!! i dunno wtf is going on https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif
One thing I can definitely tell you is that the green-red stock wire is for the heated mirrors, so you shouldn't be touching that wire. That is why you have 5 wires.

[FrankMB]

OK I finally installed my JDM switch today.

If you are using the stock switch,

Wiring for the mirrors is as follows :

jdm blue to oem blue
jdm white to oem orange
jdm yellow to green

If using the JDM switch, swap the JDM Blue and JDM White wire.

[Danger DANJ]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(FrankMB)</div><div class='quotemain'>OK I finally installed my JDM switch today. Â*

If you are using the stock switch, Â*

Wiring for the mirrors is as follows :

jdm blue to oem blue
jdm white to oem orange
jdm yellow to green

If using the JDM switch, swap the JDM Blue and JDM White wire.</div>
Wait a minute. Here is what I see in my Mitsubishi Galant shop manuals for the wires that control the power mirrors:

LH mirror wire colors:
orange-blue
blue-yellow
red-yellow

RH mirror wire colors:
orange-black
light green-black
red-yellow

The green-red wire which is on both mirrors is for the heat.

So, what you posted doesn't make any sense to me. It looks like you are posting the hookup for the LH mirror, but the only green wire on the LH mirror is for the heat.


I would try this for the LH mirror:
JDM blue to OEM blue-yellow
JDM white to OEM orange-blue
JDM yellow to OEM red-yellow

If that works for the LH mirror and the colors on the JDM mirrors are the same for both, here is how the RH mirror should be:
JDM blue to OEM orange-black
JDM white to OEM light green-black
JDM yellow to OEM red-yellow

[FrankMB]

Yeah this is for the left side. I could've sworn I used the green wire...though I've been needing glasses for quite some time now hehe... In any case, the shop manual should be correct and only the heat wire isn't used.

@galantv600
I'll try to get the pin color locations for the switch since you don't have the harness. You can just tap them one by one. Once you use it, just swap the jdm blue and white again and you should be good to go.



Wait a minute. Here is what I see in my Mitsubishi Galant shop manuals for the wires that control the power mirrors:

LH mirror wire colors:
orange-blue
blue-yellow
red-yellow

RH mirror wire colors:
orange-black
light green-black
red-yellow

The green-red wire which is on both mirrors is for the heat.

So, what you posted doesn't make any sense to me. It looks like you are posting the hookup for the LH mirror, but the only green wire on the LH mirror is for the heat.


I would try this for the LH mirror:
JDM blue to OEM blue-yellow
JDM white to OEM orange-blue
JDM yellow to OEM red-yellow

If that works for the LH mirror and the colors on the JDM mirrors are the same for both, here is how the RH mirror should be:
JDM blue to OEM orange-black
JDM white to OEM light green-black
JDM yellow to OEM red-yellow

[galantv600]

thanks guys, ill try it out later on today once i get home from school... then i gotta hit up a junk yard n get the damn pigtails for the fogs.. need the reverse bulb pigtail for the side piece and then the H3 pigtail for my main bulb... anyknow know exactlywhat cars i can get the parts from... i know galant reverse light, but i dunno if the montero sport pigtail works.. i know it has h3 fogs... but i dunno :x

[pinoyesv6]

the fogs i have now are h3 and the connectors i used to splice with my factory wiring are just simple connectors that you can get at radio shack or the auto parts store.

[galantv600]

alright, well i did it the way the David posted and it works great just that left and right are backwards.. but up and down are fine.. guess i gots to get those damn fogs working now :x

[Danger DANJ]

alright, well i did it the way the David posted and it works great just that left and right are backwards.. but up and down are fine.. guess i gots to get those damn fogs working now :x
D'oh! If left and right are backwards, then perhaps the JDM white and JDM blue wires need to be swapped around?

[GreyGoose01]

this is the point of SEARCHING. This CONVO was great. especially cause i needed the HELP...

Guess What i'm NOT a NEWBIE https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif 8)

i'll post pics later

[GreyGoose01]

ok so Danj's color scheme didnt work. i believe Galantv600 had the up/down/left/right problem.

and

ok so you know how the mirror on the USDM pass/side allows you to see part of your vehicle in the mirror. the JDM is the driver side and the motor on the mirror won't allow me to see any part of my vehicle, regardless if i change the glass part mirror.
i hate it :x

[Danger DANJ]

ok so Danj's color scheme didnt work. i believe Galantv600 had the up/down/left/right problem.

and

ok so you know how the mirror on the USDM pass/side allows you to see part of your vehicle in the mirror. the JDM is the driver side and the motor on the mirror won't allow me to see any part of my vehicle, regardless if i change the glass part mirror.
i hate it :x
Which color scheme did you try? The ones that make the left and right do the opposite? Did you try it this way?

LH mirror:
JDM white to OEM blue-yellow
JDM blue to OEM orange-blue
JDM yellow to OEM red-yellow

RH mirror:
JDM white to OEM orange-black
JDM blue to OEM light green-black
JDM yellow to OEM red-yellow

And about the mirrors. You say you changed the JDM glass to the USDM glass and you still can't see right?

[GreyGoose01]

ok so Danj's color scheme didnt work. i believe Galantv600 had the up/down/left/right problem.

and

ok so you know how the mirror on the USDM pass/side allows you to see part of your vehicle in the mirror. the JDM is the driver side and the motor on the mirror won't allow me to see any part of my vehicle, regardless if i change the glass part mirror.
i hate it :x
Which color scheme did you try? The ones that make the left and right do the opposite? Did you try it this way?

LH mirror:
JDM white to OEM blue-yellow
JDM blue to OEM orange-blue
JDM yellow to OEM red-yellow

RH mirror:
JDM white to OEM orange-black
JDM blue to OEM light green-black
JDM yellow to OEM red-yellow

And about the mirrors. You say you changed the JDM glass to the USDM glass and you still can't see right?

i tried it that way and everything moves where it wants to :?

and i didnt change the glass yet but the mirror clicks when i move it to where i want to see.
our USDM mirror doesn't fit in there b/c it's longer, so0o0o0o0o what USDM mirror can i use?

the wiring set-up you provided is for the JDM switch or USDM switch?
b/c Trigg found me a harness to fit in my JDM switch. so now i have 2 JDM switches.

IDK i'm kinda lost

[GreyGoose01]

ok so i read the whole thing again and this is what i got from it:

the set-up David provided (before the JDM blue/white wire swap) is for the OEM switch.
So0o0o0o0
if i have the JDM switch then i NEED to swap the JDM blue/white wires.

Correct me if i'm wrong and i still need to know what OEM mirror can fit!