AEM’s External 10-Channel Peak & Hold Injector Driver Mo

[Johnathansgalant]

sup guys --- like others i am going turbo with the i4 very soon.. Already got a 14b, exhaust mani, o2 -- and a few other toys. I am looking for injectors and i figured the 450s off the dsm with the resistor box like a lot of people. For one thing i have not seen any pictures of any decent looking engine bays with the resistor pack. It looks all ghetto wired and what not -- not saying thats what you guys have but the pics ive seen are gay. Any way i came across a post with AEM’s External 10-Channel Peak & Hold Injector Driver Module in it saying you just have to plug a few plugs up and you can still use the low impedance 450s with out rewiring manually.... ??? has any one heard or have this item as it is very interesting and if it does in fact work i would go that route... the msrp is like 330 or 350 from aems site and the link is below for info...

http://www.aempower.com/press_events_detail.asp?aid=46 ('http://www.aempower.com/press_events_detail.asp?aid=46')

[Jet Black]

Dude no offense, though paying 300$ for something that you can just as easily recreate for $10 is GHEY.

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.c...tnumber=004-5.6 ('http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=004-5.6')

[peanotation]

even if you bought a 2g resistor pack, you'd spend $60 or so. just because other people have ghetto wired it doesn't mean you have to lol

[Johnathansgalant]

lol .. yea i know -- im planning on some 450s wit tha resistor pack but i wanted to know if anyone had this or has used / heard anything on it. 350 could be put to better use but on the info it states it has benefits over the resistor pack... i was curious if it was true although i would probably go the resistor route. [/quote]

[Jet Black]

lol .. yea i know -- im planning on some 450s wit tha resistor pack but i wanted to know if anyone had this or has used / heard anything on it. 350 could be put to better use but on the info it states it has benefits over the resistor pack... i was curious if it was true although i would probably go the resistor route.

You know I was thinking, for that much money it MUST do something special (possibly make interchanging high/low imp injectors a breeze?).

[peanotation]

the info it states it has benefits over the resistor pack...

of course it would state that. they're trying to sell their product by placing it higher over others. i dont think it would be practical.

[Johnathansgalant]

lol -- yup yup - so what ur sayin is dont buy it - ha na im getting some 450s off a laser and the resistor pack... im not 100 % on the install - is there instructions or tutorials or for the install and another silly question - i only see one resistor box on the ghetto pics so i assume ill only need one ???? thanks for the info guys

[Jet Black]

You only need one resistor pack. Also are you sure you want to use injectors that are that old? I really suggest you spend a little extra money and get reconditioned injectors from this guy (see below). They come flow tested, and are paired together based off their flow results (so basicly they all flow almost exactly the same). Find out what model number is for the injectors and look em up on this site:

http://injectors4u.com/injector_prices.htm ('http://injectors4u.com/injector_prices.htm')

[peanotation]

it's pretty basic.

i was picasso in a former life.

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/3702/resistorpack4of.jpg

don't touch the ground wires. take all four 12v wires from the factory harness, wire them into one, and send it to the white wire on the resistor pack. it may not be white on the resistor pack, but whatever color is all alone, you want that one.

then wire up the 12v wire for each injector into the remaining wires from the resistor pack. they might not be black, but you get the idea.

there's one wire of one color, and then 4 wires of another color on the resistor pack.

[Mindless]

Dude no offense, though paying 300$ for something that you can just as easily recreate for $10 is GHEY.

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=004-5.6

agreed

[brandon]

even if you bought a 2g resistor pack, you'd spend $60 or so. just because other people have ghetto wired it doesn't mean you have to lol

I resent this comment!

[ES-Turbo]

You guys could just get the 440cc injector package from Tearstone. It uses high impedance injectors so there's no need for resistor's and it includes the necessary spacers, bolts and injector clips.

[Jet Black]

You guys could just get the 440cc injector package from Tearstone. It uses high impedance injectors so there's no need for resistor's and it includes the necessary spacers, bolts and injector clips.


Good point. Its about $300 on their site:
http://www.tearstone.com/portal/index.php?...id=21&Itemid=31 ('http://www.tearstone.com/portal/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=21&Itemid=31')

Not to jack the thread...but look how sexy this kit is...


http://tearstone.com/portal/images/stories/turbo/v6kit01.jpg

[peanotation]

You guys could just get the 440cc injector package from Tearstone. It uses high impedance injectors so there's no need for resistor's and it includes the necessary spacers, bolts and injector clips.

oh damn i totally forgot about that. i almost got 550cc high impedance injectors just so i didn't have to get a resistor pack. but i had a hard time finding a good deal on them. turned out to be cheaper to get the 450ccs and 2g resistor pack.

[4-G-rim]

even if you bought a 2g resistor pack, you'd spend $60 or so. just because other people have ghetto wired it doesn't mean you have to lol

I resent this comment!

Its SIMPLE wiring and don't see how you can get "ghetto" unless you go wire happy and have tons of slack. $300 for the AEM is a waste....any in depth DSM'er will say the same thing. At most you'll be spending $100 for both 450cc and a OEM Mitsu resistor pack. For the $200 you would be saving...you could spend it on a supporting mod like a nice adjustable FPR, Boost controller, or even go bigger injectors.

[Jet Black]

Just to point out, you might have trouble running such large injectors on the stock ECU, without some sort of fuel controller.

*cough* eManage ULTIMATE!!!! *cough*

[peanotation]

Just to point out, you might have trouble running such large injectors on the stock ECU, without some sort of fuel controller.

*cough* eManage ULTIMATE!!!! *cough*

lol, i kinda figured that was a given. what kind of fuel computer are you going to run?

[ES-Turbo]

At most you'll be spending $100 for both 450cc and a OEM Mitsu resistor pack. For the $200 you would be saving...you could spend it on a supporting mod like a nice adjustable FPR, Boost controller, or even go bigger injectors.

True, but for that $100 you'll be getting a set of used injectors out of a car that's probably around 10 years old. You might save $200 but how much is your engine worth?

[peanotation]

At most you'll be spending $100 for both 450cc and a OEM Mitsu resistor pack. For the $200 you would be saving...you could spend it on a supporting mod like a nice adjustable FPR, Boost controller, or even go bigger injectors.

True, but for that $100 you'll be getting a set of used injectors out of a car that's probably around 10 years old. You might save $200 but how much is your engine worth?

that's why you get them tested and cleaned

[ES-Turbo]

that's why you get them tested and cleaned

Isnt it about $25 per injector to have them tested and cleaned? So now your saving $100 and you still have a set of used fuel injectors. Just because they test out good and flow good does not mean they still have the same life expectancy as a new injector, it just means they are working good now. I'd rather spend the $100 than play the odds.

[peanotation]

that's why you get them tested and cleaned

Isnt it about $25 per injector to have them tested and cleaned? So now your saving $100 and you still have a set of used fuel injectors. Just because they test out good and flow good does not mean they still have the same life expectancy as a new injector, it just means they are working good now. I'd rather spend the $100 than play the odds.

oh by all means the new anything is always better, but everyone's cut corners on their turbo install to save money here and there. some people think it's reasonable to cut certain corners while other people would never go that far.

hell, i'm still on narrowband :oops: saved me a bundle on car insurance

[ES-Turbo]

oh by all means the new anything is always better, but everyone's cut corners on their turbo install to save money here and there. some people think it's reasonable to cut certain corners while other people would never go that far.

hell, i'm still on narrowband :oops: saved me a bundle on car insurance

I've definetly seen some people cut corners. The funny thing is that it usually works as long as they've actually got some sort of turbo bolted on without any leaks. The fuel system is definetly one area that you should try not to cut any corners on though. A shitty turbo can still make boost and power even though it may smoke like a freight train. But a shitty injector will end your day real quick! :thumbsup:

[DOHCstunr]

i'm sorry but what is ghetto or sloppy about MY wiring?
http://www.iamsethmo.com/Pics/DOHCstunr/IMG_0290.JPG ('http://www.iamsethmo.com/Pics/DOHCstunr/IMG_0290.JPG')
only thing thats out of place is my transistor for the ignition (loom that goes over the intake plenum)cause i didn't really care where it was at the time

resistor pack is mounted nice and clean on the firewall right nest to the master cylinder. i even gave it about 10 whole seconds on the wire wheel to make it shine.

and my wiring all looks factory. soldered/shrinkwrapped, taped and loomed. just like factory but better(factory clips wires i solder them).
plus when you do your own wiring you have the freedom to hide what wiring want, in order to insure a cleaner setup. and it didn't cost me shit.
i even used the factory weatherpack connectors.

[4-G-rim]

At most you'll be spending $100 for both 450cc and a OEM Mitsu resistor pack. For the $200 you would be saving...you could spend it on a supporting mod like a nice adjustable FPR, Boost controller, or even go bigger injectors.

True, but for that $100 you'll be getting a set of used injectors out of a car that's probably around 10 years old. You might save $200 but how much is your engine worth?

Well...my comment is pertaining to him building a turbo kit of used parts. Like many of us we are on a budget and don't have the luxury of buying ALL new parts for a turbo kit. As far as injectors...as long as they are flow tested and they work correctly especially OEM injectors they will do fine. I have seen a few DSM buddies of mine that have gotten NEW higher flow aftermarket injectors crap out way before a 10+ year old 1st gen 4g63 450cc OEM injector.

[Johnathansgalant]

hey sorry guys i had a lot of bad luck recently so i finally got to see ur comments... thanks for the wiring schem.. good news is my turbo, mani, o2 housing as well as 1g bov is coming on tues... bad news is 2 days ago my car was broken into and my hu as well as system was stolen wit my wallet and cc's they broke my rear passenger small window (theres a post in dearly departed). I am gonna get some used 450s which are flow tested and are within good spec with the eclipse resistor and SAFC2 from my uncle who has a stereo / performance shop... thanks for the info tho i see a lot of good and interesting things... and thanks for the injector site also... ill be posting a lot more turbo questions as i get my parts and go turbo...

[underated]

im gonna be selling my safc2 soon it has vlaues for 5psi and 12 psi let me know if your interested i just made 250whp on 11-12psi so im gonna change up to an emanage just for safety cuz i was getting a little bit of detonation due to timing @ 12 if you go around 10 its fine but over that i get too much timing advance