8G Auto to Manual Conversion DONE! **UPDATED 02/03/06**

[GOOSEY2099]

Well it’s my time, after long considerations of whether to do the swap or not I have decided to convert to a 5 speed transmission. I will update this thread and make a detailed tutorial as I move along. So let’s begin…

Part 1: The Arrival
After waiting for a week for the junkyard to send this out I finally got it today. In the box came stock flywheel, clutch, master/slave clutch cylinders, clutch/break pedals, 2 shifter assemblies and a lot of bolts.

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I'm going to try to install the pedals and the master/slave cylinders this Friday if the weather permits it, as for the actual conversion will take place on Janury 7th.

Part 2: Pedals & Master/Slave Clutch Cylinders
Everythis is still on schedule and I have finished installing clutch and break pedals.


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Things would have moved a lot quicker except that I had to relocate my 4AWG cable for the system. Dam install guy picked a great spot to run it.

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We had to dremel out the master cylinder plate and everything fit like a glove.

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Part 2.5: Optional/Required parts obtained for the install

===============REQUIRED PARTS=====================
3G TRANSMISSION: $764 - JUNK
ACT 2100 CLUTCH KIT: $350 (MB1-HDSS) - NOLIMITMOTORSPORT.COM - GET IT
3G CLUTCH RELEASE CYLINDER: $65 - DEALER
PENNZOIL SYNCHROMESH 3 QUARTS: $30 - AUTOZONE

===============OPTIONAL==========================
PARTS ARE FROM A 1997 ECLIPSE GS-T FWD 2.0 TURBO
2G ACT XACT STREETLITE FLYWHEEL: $250 (600165) - NOLIMITMOTORSPORT.COM
2G STARTER: $95 - AUTOZONE
(2) 1/8" WASHERS WITH THE DIAMETER OF THE STARTER BOLT
FLYWHEEL BOLTS: $30 (MD302074) - DEALER
(1)SS CLUTCH LINE $10 (EAR-63010112ERL) - SUMMITRACING.COM
(2)SS CLUTCH LINE ADAPTER $5 (EAR-989545ERL) - SUMMITRACING.COM

===============EXTREMELY OPTIONAL==================
HAWK FRONT BREAKPADS: $57 - NOLIMITMOTORSPORT.COM
F+R BREAK LINES: $90 - R1CONCEPTS.COM
F+R ROTORS: $160 - R1CONCEPTS.COM
SHIFTER BASE BUSHINGS: $24 - EBAY - GET IT
SHIFTER CABLES BUSHINGS: $28 - EBAY - GET IT
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LABOR, OILCHANGE, COFFEE $360
===============GRAND TOTAL FOR THE SWAP=======$2303

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GOLDEN RULE OF THE JOB IS: GET ALL THE PARTS BEFORE YOU START

Part 3: The Job

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TAKE APART YOUR CENTER CONSOLE, WHICH IS 7 SCREWS TOTAL (2 BEHIND THE ASH TRAY CONSOLE)
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UNCLIP THE KEY LOCK CABLE, PUSH THE INNER ROD IN AS MUCH AS NEEDED, BEND THE REMAINDER AND ELECTRIC TAPE IT.

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REMOVE THE AIR INTAKE, REMOVE THE BATTERY
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REMOVE THE BATTERY TRAY
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UNPLUG ALL THE HARNESSES/GROUND CABLE, REMOVE SHIFTER CABLE, DISCONNECT TRANNY COLLER LINES
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DRAIN OLD TRANNY OIL
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REMOVE THE OLD FLEX PLATE
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REMOVE THE STARTER PLATE TO TAKE OUT THE STARTER
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REMOVE THE STARTER
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IF USING A 2G FLYWHEEL REMOVE THE PILOT BEARING
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PUT THE STARTER PLATE BACK AND ATTACH THE FLYWHEEL (USE THREADLOCK FOR THE BOLTS) IF USIN A 2G FLYWHEEL THEN THROUGH OUT THE 2 FLYWHEEL WASHERS
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ATTACH THE FLYWHEEL WITH THE PRESURE PLATE
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REMOVE THE SPEEDSENSOR CONVERSION HARNESS
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REMOVE THE BOLT THAT ON THE RIGHT, CUT THEN DRILL THE BOLT THATS ON THE LEFT
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INSTALL THE TRANSMISSION AND WATCH IT FIT
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IF USING A 2G FLYWHEEL THEN INSTALL THE NEW STARTER SPACED OFF BY A 1/8" WASHER PER BOLT
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IF YOUR OIL COVER IS DAMAGED DURING SHIPPING GET A NEW COVER/LIQUID GASKET - ONLY AT DEALER
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ASSEMBLE THE CENTER CONSOLE
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RUN THE CLUTCH LINE
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CONNECT THE SHIFTER CABLES
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SHORT OUT PIN 9+10 ON THE BLACK HARNESS TO START THE CAR.
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CONNECT PIN 7+8 ON THE BLACK HARNESS TO REVERSE LIGHTS SELENOID
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NOW GET ALL THE FLUIDS IN AND TAKE A DRIVE 8)


NOTES
USE 2.5-3 QUARTS OF GEAR LUBE
CONNECT THE GROUND CABLE BACK TO THE TRANSMISSION
DO NOT CUT ANY HARNESSES



COMPATIBILITY
1999-2000: NO CHECK ENGINE LIGHT, NO PROBLEM
2001: REQUIRES A 2000 AUTO ECU/IMMOBILIZER WHICH YOU NEED TO GET REINITIALIZED AT THE DEALER IN ORDER TO GET RID OF THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT
2002-2003: SPEED SENSOR REWIRING IS REQUIRED, STILL UNABLE TO GET RID OF THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT

2002 ECU IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH 2001, 2000, 1999 ECUS.


ALL MY RESEARCH (http://www.vertsoft.com/cars/images/8g5spdswap/SWAPDOCS.PDF)

This is "How to Adjust your Clutch Pedal" (http://www.deadeclipse.com/comments.php?msg=4)

I want to thank Brian(Stewi), Dustin(theblackpearl), Jason(mrjaydeeone)and Anthony(not a member of this board) for helping me with this job. Thank You Guys! :thumbsup:

[BxGalant99]

Its mad cold in nyc rite now and its only gonna get worse. Good luck dude. Im watching closely.

[mrjaydeeone]

Good Luck Roman, if you need any help give me a shout

[theblackpearl]

hmm thats a dirty tranny lol.. boy are you in for a load of fun!!! nah man its not that bad..jsut make sure you get EVERYTHING that you need before you start.. remember i just did my swap like a month ago so any questions man just hit me up..i ran into about every problem possible so i can help...

good luck, have fun, and hit me up if you need help


ps..you realize your missing two studs you need to mounth the tranny?

[theblackpearl]

shit i almost have enough pics to make a tutorial...maybe i should try like i said i was going to do and quit being lazy...

[Jet Black]

shit i almost have enough pics to make a tutorial...maybe i should try like i said i was going to do and quit being lazy...

Ya seriously you guys, a photo diary would be AWSOME!

[bronxbombr]

Its mad cold in nyc rite now and its only gonna get worse. Good luck dude. Im watching closely.


Yo, i just bought a garage heater, so if you wanna come down and help with my swap then when done we can do yours in my garage. Gotta have all ya parts together though, we do wanna get this done in less than 8 hrs.
I suggest to at least start with the small stuff. Put in ya clutch pedal and master.

[GOOSEY2099]

Its mad cold in nyc rite now and its only gonna get worse. Good luck dude. Im watching closely.


Yo, i just bought a garage heater, so if you wanna come down and help with my swap then when done we can do yours in my garage. Gotta have all ya parts together though, we do wanna get this done in less than 8 hrs.
I suggest to at least start with the small stuff. Put in ya clutch pedal and master.
I would love to do this in a garage but I won't be able to do anythin g till the end of the month.

[newguyonblock]

damn every1 is doing the swap now huh? im looking to do it next year if i go back overseas, and have it done while im gone. and yes for those that have done it before on 8gs, get together and post a turtorial, please.

[GOOSEY2099]

The padals are in.

[mrjaydeeone]

looks good bro, so are you still able to drive your car?

[GOOSEY2099]

yeah, no problem at all driving. Just can't wai to finish

[milo111000]

ey guys just a question.... what kind of tranny are you all using? r they 3g Eclipse tranny? cause i'm really thinkin bout' joining the M/T crowd. can you guys give me some info on what kind of trans to get.. thanks

[theblackpearl]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(milo111000)</div><div class='quotemain'>ey guys just a question.... what kind of tranny are you all using? r they 3g Eclipse tranny? cause i'm really thinkin bout' joining the M/T crowd. can you guys give me some info on what kind of trans to get.. thanks</div>

it is the 3g tranny but dude its been posted like amillion times..just do a search...

[milo111000]

thanx fellow islander from back in the days.

[GOOSEY2099]

bump

[Kalamidad]

Roman...

I CALL FIRST DIBBS ON GETTING A RIDE!!!!!!


glad to see you finished it...and with no problems huh? I hear it's well worth it...what would you say?

[GOOSEY2099]

Its worth every penny to have a car that not many have and Jason allready been driven / drove it.

[chromey]

congrats and much props roman!!!!!!!!!

[bronxbombr]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(GOOSEY2099)</div><div class='quotemain'>Its worth every penny to have a car that not many have and Jason allready been driven / drove it.</div>

So when you gonna come over here and help me finish my swap.

All the hard stuff is done already.

P.S.

My slave came with no bolts any idea of the type and size bolts you using to bolt the slave cylinder to the tranny?

[GOOSEY2099]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bronxbombr)</div><div class='quotemain'>

So when you gonna come over here and help me finish my swap.

All the hard stuff is done already.

P.S.

My slave came with no bolts any idea of the type and size bolts you using to bolt the slave cylinder to the tranny?</div>
I'd love to help you out but in 2 hours i'm going to south jersey for 2 weeks, now for the bolts just look in mitsu caps they every bolt type you need.

[bronxbombr]

does the wiring for the reverse lights also work for the 7G? I figured that its something like that but not messing with the way the haynes manual go the wiring code down.

[GOOSEY2099]

no idea show me some pics of your harnesses

[bronxbombr]

I have the same harness as all other 7G's i think, this is a pic of the one in Matts tutorial

http://www.ecanfix.com/~mdhamilton/images/stuff/inhibitor2.jpg

Im gonna take a pic of mine just in case it is a lil different.

[bronxbombr]

any word on this yet?

[GOOSEY2099]

I looked this up in Mitchel1 ondemand5 and here are some diagrams for you http://www.vertsoft.com/7g.pdf ('http://www.vertsoft.com/7g.pdf') (password is blah) from the transmission diagram it looks that its exactly the same wire color code for M/T as well as A/T. Let me know if you need any other diagrams.

[bronxbombr]

Thanks im sure it should work, i had the same idea with the wiring just not someone to double check my theory.

[macknati]

That is a beautiful sight man. Im definitely gonna have to do that swap.

[bronxbombr]

Well i took another look at my NS switch and decided to take those pics, let me know if its any different than the ones you guys have

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[bronxbombr]

Hey goosey holla at me. Wanna start my car this weekend.

[GOOSEY2099]

CONNECT PIN 5(BLK/YEL) + 8(BLK/BLU) TO START THE CAR

CONNECT PIN 7(RED/GRN) + 6(RED/BLU) TO TRIGGER THE REVERSE LIGHTS

Use the 2pin connector on top of the tranny to connect the 6+7 that should be your reverse gear selenoid. Other then that you should b all set.

[bronxbombr]

TKS, will keep you posted on this.

[Blue Ice]

I know a guy in kansas that wants to do the swap on his V6 8Gen. i was wondering will he use the same donor for v6 5spd tranny swap. I'm not too sure what the differences may be.

[GOOSEY2099]

It should be the same parts + MT axels

[GOOSEY2099]

Bump, I just put up all the documents I needed to do this swap. Take a look in the first post.

[theblackpearl]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Blue Ice)</div><div class='quotemain'>I know a guy in kansas that wants to do the swap on his V6 8Gen. Â* i was wondering will he use the same donor for v6 5spd tranny swap. Â*I'm not too sure what the differences may be.</div>

you have to get the parts from a v6 3g eclipse...

[amnbrueckner]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(GOOSEY2099)</div><div class='quotemain'>It should be the same parts + MT axels</div>


This is only for the 6cylinger correct? The 8G 4cyl auto axels work with the MT or am I misstaken.

I found a trans and im trying to talk the guy down in price.

[theblackpearl]

my 8g axels worked with my manual tranny

[qnz]

i dont think all the eclipse manual trannys are the same. i think they changed something after 2000. anyway, its a latter yr eclipse tranny you would want

[GOOSEY2099]

I have an 01 MT Tranny and its all the same

[8gV65spd]

Every Eclipse from 01-05 are going to be the same. As far as the axles, ABS or Not you can use either of the two. although with the V6 the axles are the same. I didn't realize it until I had taken mine apart. Don't get confused if you have a pair of Eclipse axles with splines on the hub-end. Those are for the ABS models, which the ABS system on the Eclipse is completely different thatn the Galant. Just take a flat tip screw drive and rubber hammer and nock the splined ring off. It should pop off fairly easy.

[lion]

Thhis coverversion looks like it was for the 2.4L 4 cylinder. Will this work for a V6 galant? If so what parts will I need?

[bronxbombr]

Thhis coverversion looks like it was for the 2.4L 4 cylinder. Will this work for a V6 galant? If so what parts will I need?


eh :roll:

[DryBear]

Were there any other issues that came up, that is not covered in the first post?

[furiousgtz]

DAMM I am loving it

[duh2150]

so you dont have to change the ecu on the 2000's??? so by the tutoral all i would need would be transmisson and pedals and all that good stuff i dont need any computer shit? like a 3g 2.4L ecu?

[Qs]

well , i had posted my swap info in here but it seems it got deleted ....




??????????????????????

[microgalant]

From wich car did you use the clutch/brake pedala and the shiftlinkage?from what other car can you use?

[PR8GG]

First, thanks for the tutorial, very helpfull; still I have a question: about the Cruise Control, is there any way can we still retain that? I have an Audi Coupe, manual, still have cruise control, so, I guess there has to be a way :wink:

[bronxbombr]

im still workin on it.

[Anything Dryft]

"2002-2003: SPEED SENSOR REWIRING IS REQUIRED, STILL UNABLE TO GET RID OF THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT"




I have an 02' with the v6. There is no way to get the light off after the swap is done? What causes the light to come on?

[fatal1]

as of now there is no known way to get rid of the light unfortunatelly, the 02 and 03 ecu's are different then the previous versions and cant be swapped between each other, basically the ecu i reading that there is no tranny connected to the car, it will run fine but if you live in a state that requires an inspection you will not pass

[6G72gearhead]

I'm excited, my tranny goes in this weekend. I've got a GTS trans and everything to do the swap, it all goes in this weekend. My goal is to be able to drive it on my birthday, the 15th.

[Anything Dryft]

does anybody know the exact code that makes the cel come on?

[bronxbombr]

didnt Roman already find a solution to this problem and posted it already. I thought i saw it somewhere around here.

[fatal1]

does anybody know the exact code that makes the cel come on?

the 02 and 03 models as far as i know are the models that have the ses light that cant be cleared as far as i know

i dont remember reading a complete fix for those models, but its possible?

[GOOSEY2099]

Please read the first post again for all the information and sollutions currently available.

[6G72gearhead]

I've heard that you can ignore codes with ECU Flash, that will be pretty cool. The trans is in but nothings finished yet. I'm going to work on it till she's running tomorrow. 13 days behind schedule. I'll post a ton of pictures. You guys wont believe what little room I worked with on this one.

[6G72gearhead]

My passenger side axel is not lining up right. It seems to be about 1/4 inch too long. the only way it will go in is to unbolt the tranny, but when you do that and tighten the trans back up it seems to want to bind on the bearings.

[fatal1]

My passenger side axel is not lining up right. It seems to be about 1/4 inch too long. the only way it will go in is to unbolt the tranny, but when you do that and tighten the trans back up it seems to want to bind on the bearings.
turn the wheel as hard as you can and just play with it it will go in, its common on the 4cyl and the v6 is a bit harder but it will fit in fine just jiggle it around

[6G72gearhead]

I loosened the transmission from the engine, then bolted the hanger to the block then bolted the trans back up, that worked fine. I'm almost done, it will be running tonight.

[WarmAndSCSI]

Congrats on your swap, I'm anxious to get enough cash to do my swap. Too bad this torque converter I have will be worthless to me then...

[run1206]

Congrats on the swap!!! currently saving up for the swap as well, gotta find a place to do the swap

[Stylin_G]

I have a 03 4cyl. ES do I need the pass side axle?? or is it only for the V6'ers, and do I need the crossmember as well or no?

I've done all the research a year ago and have the parts list from then and haven't gotten to do the swap and looking through this tutorial it doesn't mention anything of that nature and now I'm hearing some of you's (i.e 6g72.. an so on) talking about the axle... so just curious..

[spdracr]

this might a stupid question but i have to be sure, is there a year limit for the donor car or anything from 00-05 ??? also i need to get it from a 4cyl eclipse not a v6, right ??

the reason im asking is cuz the guy at the junk yaard said that the tranny is the same from beginning of 00 all the way to 06/01 and then something changes but i wanna make sure before i go asking for any tranny

thanks

[RAZ_76]

That Im not sure since people dont wan to help out with that. I have asked that question here, 3g and galant forums and everyone kinda gets silent like it's a big secret. This is a question that is not covered anywhere. I've been told that 00-02 3g transmissions are one way and 03-05 another, then some say that all 3G manual transmissions for Gs/Rs models are the same. So I couldn't tell you for sure. Let me know if you do find out for sure.

[spdracr]

That Im not sure since people dont wan to help out with that. I have asked that question here, 3g and galant forums and everyone kinda gets silent like it's a big secret. This is a question that is not covered anywhere. I've been told that 00-02 3g transmissions are one way and 03-05 another, then some say that all 3G manual transmissions for Gs/Rs models are the same. So I couldn't tell you for sure. Let me know if you do find out for sure.

I did a lil reading on c3g and they said the slave cylinder is different so I guess I need to look for a 00 I'd an 01 all the way through or before June

[WarmAndSCSI]

You'll want to replace the slave cylinder any way, so if that's the only difference, get what you want.

[6G72gearhead]

But the slave cylinder is so easy to replace.

[spdracr]

You'll want to replace the slave cylinder any way, so if that's the only difference, get what you want.

why would it need to replaced anyway ?? plus I'm not sure if that's the only difference or not I guess roman can confirm that since he made this tutorial

[GOOSEY2099]

Its the same transmission 2000-2005 Period! STOP BUMPING THIS THREAD, IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION PLEASE START A NEW THREAD.

[2nerGalant03]

I am loooking to get my tranny switched out but dont have the time or the place to do it. Is there any recommended ways to get this accomplished?

[2nerGalant03]

Hye Goosey Im out of Tennessee and want my tranny switched to a manny. I wanna know if you might know someone who is able to do it. I'm in a small town stationed at a army base and we dont have much going on as far as hookin up rides so any info would help. Thanks

[GOOSEY2099]

Talk to 02Galant

[dwjp90]

update the pic please

[GOOSEY2099]

Please don't post in here ever again.

[spdracr]

Please don't post in here ever again.

first of all as a tutorial it is in the wrong section of the forums, second of all why cant people post question in here ??

[QnzMostWanted]

whats there to update? the tutorial is complete...i agree with Roman

[dwjp90]

i was just saying that the pics were down.

[therev]

Bro, Thanks alot for all of those pics, my friend and i are doing this saturday, found the whole swap for 600 from a JY tranny was 350, then 250 for the rest of the parts :)
~Gabe

[Stewi]

Bro, Thanks alot for all of those pics, my friend and i are doing this saturday, found the whole swap for 600 from a JY tranny was 350, then 250 for the rest of the parts :)
~Gabe

LOL


who's advice was that....

[GOOSEY2099]

^ not mine...

[ralphrider150]

i was planning to do a swap too but some shops said they don't know what tranny could fit in my 1999 galant es 4 cylinder. Please help me and email me what kind of tranny is it? and list all the parts that i need because im really interested in doing the swap. Do you think an ECLIPSE tranny from a 2000 model would fit my 1999 galant because i thinks 2000 eclipse share the same tranny and engine right? please reply to me asap so i could tell the shop what kind of a tranny should they look for. THANKS AND MORE POWER!


p.s. I was also planning to buy a 97 galant 5 speed but i want to get the right bumper for it like jdm or what we have in the philippines, can you find out with other guys where did they get the jdm bumper for the 94-98 galant. thank you so much and hope to hear from you soon

[cruicifixio]

nice nice nice ..i like it ..am trying to convert myright hand drive jdm 2000cc gdi galant to a vr4 ie the 2.5 TT ..ANY STUMBLING BLOCKS PLEASE ADVISE .i have purchased a lignum vr4 nose clip with engine harness etc from japan.could any one advise on where i can get these crossed drilled rotors and calipers and other accessories ..i wish to start working on my car but i really need to get all my facts and figures in place b 4 . its hard to get anyting out of japan ..

[QnzMostWanted]

why are you posting in this thread? it has nothing to do with it

[jimmy_o2]

Newbe Fail to post in right section

[vali4]

прикольно!!!!

[GOOSEY2099]

lol..спасибо

[djakay]

а даже так...

[IceDouTGaLanT]

Goosey это дерьмо. Еще раз спасибо! Почти 3 года.

Just an update, i had my swap for a while never any issues, incase anybody reads the thread and has worries.

[QnzMostWanted]

хорошую работу!!!!

[djakay]

xaxa, все заговорили по русски.

[spdracr]

прикольно!!!!


lol..спасибо


а даже так...


Goosey это дерьмо. Еще раз спасибо! Почти 3 года.

Just an update, i had my swap for a while never any issues, incase anybody reads the thread and has worries.


хорошую работу!!!!


xaxa, все заговорили по русски.

wtf is this ???

[bmaddock]

Haha i was just wondering the same thing. Inside joke?? haha

[QnzMostWanted]

its russian, look it up in google translator

[GOOSEY2099]

Except I am actually Russian, where as The other 2 are not.

[djakay]

but who??? :smt017

[jojo03]

wtf is this ???

^x2

[Jeffylou87]

How different is this for the V6?

[fatal1]

is what? the swap?

[4g63lover]

is what? the swap?

no fatal, the russian. lol jk.

[GOOSEY2099]

about the same +/- 30min or so

[fatal1]

lol well i cant say about the russian. more or less the same you will need the pass side axle from a manual eclipse as well though.
roman will take good care of you though. when you plan on doing the swap?

[b1gkishan]

I have a ? i want to do a 5speed swap to my 97 diamante....the 3.5L motor bolts str8 into an eclipse so i was wondering if the eclipse gt 5 speed tranny mount will bolt right up to the diamante i know for a fact that the tranny does bolt up to the motor.

[HondaKillerGTZ]

I have a ? i want to do a 5speed swap to my 97 diamante....the 3.5L motor bolts str8 into an eclipse so i was wondering if the eclipse gt 5 speed tranny mount will bolt right up to the diamante i know for a fact that the tranny does bolt up to the motor.


good news, diamante automatic engine mounts are the same as the manual, so no need to use any of the eclipse mounts. Pedals are different, shifter assembly is different on the diamante, but you may be able to bolt the eclipse one in place. Good luck!!

[b1gkishan]

well someone over seas has done the swap to their diamante but i guess ill be the first one in america to do so pretty soon. Slave cylinder, master cylinder, tranny, shifter, shifter linkage, clutch....and is the flywheel the same for the 72 and 74?

[HondaKillerGTZ]

You can use 3G eclipse V6 parts, all the parts will fit your 6G74, including flywheel, clutch, shifter linkage, but you will need to get the pedals for a LHD diamante/magna. The shifter assembly is different also, but I think it could be installed in your car. I will post some screen shots of all the parts so you can see the differences. Also, you can check AussieMagna.com (http://www.aussiemagna.com/)

EDIT: Screen shots link: HERE (http://s149.photobucket.com/albums/s80/galantfan/Diamante%20vs%20Eclipse%20Tranny/)

[b1gkishan]

thanks for the help man! It wont let me sign up for the aussie forums cause of the type of email i need. So shifter and s/linkage may work might need some drilling if anything?? clutch pedal assembly and a brake pedal has to be from over seas?

[fatal1]

the tranny will definately work. there are guys running 74 swaps with the 3g transmission

[b1gkishan]

Alright so i can get my hands on a clutch assembly from aussie magna (it shouldnt matter even if they a right hand?)......what type of wiring would i need to do to take this auto out and put the 5spd in? what about the speed sensor and all?

[Jeffylou87]

lol well i cant say about the russian. more or less the same you will need the pass side axle from a manual eclipse as well though.
roman will take good care of you though. when you plan on doing the swap?

I'm just starting to source all of the parts.. Hopefully by the summer I will have everything. Yeah Romans a good dude.. Haven't seen him in a while though.. Not since the last time I saw you.. We had a meet today too.. Called him later in the afternoon and he was still sleeping.. lol

Oh yeah.. There's a dash in my room with your name on it.. haha

[thestig]

i have a couple questions: one where did you get the e-brake handle/boot. also when you put the pedals in you had to change the brake pedal too? in order to make the clutch pedal fit? did those pedals come of of a 3g eclipse as well?

[rocky 8g]

oh

[blasta510]

2000 eclipse 2.4 5 speed at my local junk yard.

Let me know if anyone is interested i can pull everything involved with the tranny and ship it.

[bronxbombr]

where you located bro?

[Johnathansgalant]

hey goosey... I have a question regarding the flywheel -- if u use a 3g flywheel u need the starter spaced bla bla but If i use a 3g stock flywheel can i use my original starter?? And if the stock flywheel is used will the 2g clutch bolt up or do i need to get something for the 3g?? Im gonna try to finish gathering parts for the swap soon.

[fatal1]

if you use the 3g stuff you need both the clutch and flywheel from a 3g. your stock starter will work.
if you use a 2g flywheel you need a 2g clutch along with the starter

the benefit of using the 2g stuff when he did his swap was it was cheaper overall for the upgraded components and there was more variety available. plus swapping out a new starter isnt a bad idea when everything is out of the car...

[Johnathansgalant]

thats why i ask as a matter of fact is because i just bought a starter with lifetime warranty so i want to keep it haha.. Alright thanks for the info

[WhiteGalant]

Getting ready to do this, in the next month or so. Im using all parts from the 3g, will I be able to reuse the stock flexplate/flywheel bolts or will I have to get new ones? Also I heard that I need 2 spacers for the flywheel? Im a little confused lol

[remarque]

You have to buy bolts for a manual car because the bolts on your car now are shorter.

[4g63lover]

You have to buy bolts for a manual car because the bolts on your car now are shorter.

only when you have an aftermarket flywheel.

Also, the 3G manual bolts are the same as the flexplate bolts. Use 2G bolts.

[WhiteGalant]

So if I'm using a stock 3 g flywheel I can stick with the stock bolts right? And also jigzi remember you saying there were two washers you could get from the dealer fr 5$ what were those for?

[4g63lover]

The washers are there to keep the bolts from digging into the flywheel and destroying it but we dont have enough HP to actually get the flywheel and bolts hot enough to do that. Atleast thats how I understand it.

Also, when buying a 3G flywheel, make sure it's an OEM flywheel. Remanufactured and aftermarket flywheels will need the 2G bolts. As soon as this clutch goes out I'm going to a lightened 2G flywheel cuz this fucker is heavy...

[IVORY_G]

Anyone have a 2001-2003 who has done the swap? If so what did you do about the ECU? When you had it flashed @ the Dealer, what were the steps after that?

[bronxbombr]

Well last night i finally finished the swap on my 8G. Havent test drove it fully yet but like my 7G swap................i have no complaints. I still have a spare 3G tranny for sale if anyone is interested $500 bux and its yours

[mrg7243]

Well last night i finally finished the swap on my 8G. Havent test drove it fully yet but like my 7G swap................i have no complaints. I still have a spare 3G tranny for sale if anyone is interested $500 bux and its yours

Just tranny ??

[beam514]

is it just me or are the pics not showing up?

[bronxbombr]

Just tranny ??


yes just the tranny, price has been dropped to $400 bux local p/u

[rocky 8g]

Ok I been read now I have all 5 speed parts from a 2000 eclipse donor car I have a 2001 galant 2.4
And want to no do I need the axle from donor and what to do about my ecu
And if anyone in the new york hudson valley area has done this yet and would like to help out

[WhiteGalant]

If ur a 2.4 you don't have to worry bout the axles.

[fatal1]

Ok I been read now I have all 5 speed parts from a 2000 eclipse donor car I have a 2001 galant 2.4
And want to no do I need the axle from donor and what to do about my ecu
And if anyone in the new york hudson valley area has done this yet and would like to help out
you do not need the axles. for no check engine light yo will need to swap an 00ecu and immonilizer. i would try to get one from c3g which already had the immobilizer bypassed so yo do not have to go to the dealer and have it programmed

[rocky 8g]

you do not need the axles. for no check engine light yo will need to swap an 00ecu and immonilizer. i would try to get one from c3g which already had the immobilizer bypassed so yo do not have to go to the dealer and have it programmed

i,guess,the,00,v6,ecu,wont,work,then

[Jeffylou87]

No, because your car is a I4............

[Bloody Arro]

Doses anyone know a fix for the CEL on the 03 yet?

[4g63lover]

Swap a 99-00 ECU and harness? lol.

On a serious note, SPD_FRK might be onto something with the CEL issues.

[Galantman03]

The washers are there to keep the bolts from digging into the flywheel and destroying it but we dont have enough HP to actually get the flywheel and bolts hot enough to do that. Atleast thats how I understand it.

Also, when buying a 3G flywheel, make sure it's an OEM flywheel. Remanufactured and aftermarket flywheels will need the 2G bolts. As soon as this clutch goes out I'm going to a lightened 2G flywheel cuz this fucker is heavy...

So i bought a fidanze 3G light weight fly wheel, and it came with crank bolts... I"m still assumming i need to go get 2G bolts correct? Just making sure....

[SPD_FRK]

you do not need the axles. for no check engine light yo will need to swap an 00ecu and immonilizer. i would try to get one from c3g which already had the immobilizer bypassed so yo do not have to go to the dealer and have it programmed
If you have an 01+ (and some 00 ECUS depending on processor inside), you can flash the ECU with a Tactrix cable and ECUFlash and simply disable the immobilizer on our ECUs rather than buying another one that has already been disabled. THose of you with 00 Gs may be able to flash the ECU like I said depending on the processor it has, but for those of you wanting to upgrade to the flashable ECU I would suggest an 01+


Doses anyone know a fix for the CEL on the 03 yet?


Swap a 99-00 ECU and harness? lol.

On a serious note, SPD_FRK might be onto something with the CEL issues.
Check my build thread, more ECU swap discussion here (http://www.galanttuners.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=690)

[4g63lover]

So i bought a fidanze 3G light weight fly wheel, and it came with crank bolts... I"m still assumming i need to go get 2G bolts correct? Just making sure....

if it came with flywheel bolts, then I would use them. You wont need the 2G bolts if the lightened flywheel came with bolts.

[rocky 8g]

on,my,cluch,petal,i,have,too,harness,one,is,for,st arter,where,do,i,connect,them,or,do,i,not,ues,them

[WhiteGalant]

You do not use them, and you know there is this magical thing called a "SPACE BAR".

[Galantman03]

if it came with flywheel bolts, then I would use them. You wont need the 2G bolts if the lightened flywheel came with bolts.
thats awesome!! thanks man

[rocky 8g]

Ok dose that 2g starter half to be mt or can it be at

[4g63lover]

It shouldn't matter but I would use one from a manual to be safe.

[Galantman03]

does anybody know what the transmission code is? i'm looking for a rebuild kit, ups broke the mount closest to the fire wall on the bell housing, and since i have to take the whole thing apart and replace that, i might as well rebuild the dang thing, i just can't find a rebuld kit for it lol...

[stvn_mj]

F5M42 is the 4 cylinder F5M41 is the 6 cylinder tranny.

[Galantman03]

thanks man edit... thats for the manaul correct? lol

[stvn_mj]

Yes sir.

[Galantman03]

awesome... gotta quick question, for those of you that have install a lsd, how much was just the install price? i'm trying to get some idea on how much it would be to replace the bell housing....

[fatal1]

i was charges 200 for the lsd install and rebuild. including the gears... i know the guy though so you may be looking at a little more but roughly somehwere in the 2 -3oo ballpark

[Galantman03]

really? wow why am i being priced like 600 for just parts alone then.... hmmm i'll have to check around... thank fatal1

[4g63lover]

F5M42 is the 4 cylinder F5M41 is the 6 cylinder tranny.

correction the V6 is F5M51

[Jeffylou87]

Yeah, the V6 is F5M51..

[stvn_mj]

My bad screwed up the numbers. I was reading up the fsm earlier before he asked.

[g-ride]

bout to start the swap this coming monday but i got a couple of last minute questions if anybodys knows...the rebuilt tranny i bought came with no hardware..will the automatic hardware work or am i gonna be makin another trip to the dealer..and also do i need to buy both tranny mounts? or can i use any parts from the automatic?

[4g63lover]

OK I'll break it down since I had this issue.

The hardware for the shifter cable bracket on the trans is the same as the ones on the auto, The bellhousing bolts are also the same as well as the bolts that hold the roller mount brackets to the trans.

[WhiteGalant]

Man that is very obvious stuff, there are numerous threads about this, as well as THIS THREAD, that contain all that info.

[g-ride]

thanks alot man i appreciate it, and white galant thanks for that buddy...

[fatal1]

g-ride..you will need the manual tranny mount it is different then the auto

[Galantman03]

Fatal1 do you mean this tranny mount adapter? MD771071, its the one closest to the firewall...

[stvn_mj]

Fatal1 do you mean this tranny mount adapter? MD771071, its the one closest to the firewall...

He means the mount that attaches to the tranny itself.

[Galantman03]

He means the mount that attaches to the tranny itself.
ok, well i guess i'm lost then lol, i have reviewed the tutorials atleast 50+ times, i assumed everything for the mounts was transferable from auto to manual... also i need something clearified for me, i when over Ivory8gs build thread and he said he needed the SPEEDSENSOR CONVERSION HARNESS, but in this tutorial it says you need to remove it... could somebody clarify this please? or do you need it for the 02-03 models?

[stvn_mj]

^Not sure on that one bro. I just started doing more and more reading on the swap since I want to do it soon.

[beam514]

ok, well i guess i'm lost then lol, i have reviewed the tutorials atleast 50+ times, i assumed everything for the mounts was transferable from auto to manual... also i need something clearified for me, i when over Ivory8gs build thread and he said he needed the SPEEDSENSOR CONVERSION HARNESS, but in this tutorial it says you need to remove it... could somebody clarify this please? or do you need it for the 02-03 models?

for my 99 V6, I had to disconnect the speed sensor conversion harness. You'll know once you start plugging things back in. The conversion harness most likely won't match the ECU harness at all, whereas once you take it off, that plug will match it

[4g63lover]

ok, well i guess i'm lost then lol, i have reviewed the tutorials atleast 50+ times, i assumed everything for the mounts was transferable from auto to manual... also i need something clearified for me, i when over Ivory8gs build thread and he said he needed the SPEEDSENSOR CONVERSION HARNESS, but in this tutorial it says you need to remove it... could somebody clarify this please? or do you need it for the 02-03 models?

only 02-03 models need a full speed sensor harness to wire into the cluster. 00-01's have them built into the engine harness.

[WhiteGalant]

I was looking at this, the 03 auto trans has a speed sensor on top of the trans, the plug on that looks similar to the plug for the speed sensor for the m/t but the wire isnt long enough, I havent tried yet cuz I dont have the speed sensor yet hehe :D

[DryBear]

You sure you are looking at the right plug? The speed sensor for the auto/manual tranny is on the diff housing, and is not on top.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a268/DryBear/8G%20Manual%20Swap%20Pics/2006-08-2518-43-24DCP_0091Notes.jpg

[mrg7243]

I have a few questions if the transmission code is F5m42 that means we could get it from any car with this code transmission?? I did some research and the mirage and the lancer(just lancer not evo) both have the same transmission Does that mean we could use them??? And the eclipse transmission has this 1st and 2nd synchro rings are multi-piece design what does it mean?? And is it a possibility to have a taller fifth gear put in than the .767??

[4g63lover]

I have a few questions if the transmission code is F5m42 that means we could get it from any car with this code transmission?? I did some research and the mirage and the lancer(just lancer not evo) both have the same transmission Does that mean we could use them??? And the eclipse transmission has this 1st and 2nd synchro rings are multi-piece design what does it mean?? And is it a possibility to have a taller fifth gear put in than the .767??

Someone is going to have to PHYSICALLY check this out. I thought the Lancer transmissions bellhousing doesnt match the 4G64 block? For the synchros, I'm guessing it's got multiple pieces.

[GOOSEY2099]

Didn't Denver use a mirage transmission??

[4g63lover]

I know he used a Mirage boot.

[fatal1]

Didn't Denver use a mirage transmission??


ha...no he used a 3g one (both times) i know since i had to bail him out twice with the install lol... he tried using the cable brackets from an evo if thats what your thinking lol....it restricted cable movement though and didnt let him go in certain gears...

for the v6 guys though if you use the tranny from a gts rather then a gt it has a taller 5th gear

[g-ride]

okay so one more q..are the threaded rods that come out of the tranny for the top mount dealer only item? or can they be bought somewhere else...and also where can i find an eclipse ecu and a new speedo harness? im assuming junkyard

[Galantman03]

idk if you can find them anywhere else... just take them off your auto tranny and put em on your manny tranny dude.... also why are you getting an eclipse ecu? don't need one really... if you do want a new ecu get an evo one... don't know about the speedo harness though....

[stvn_mj]

you can reuse the auto studs. if you want new ones part number is MD759556

[rocky 8g]

Iam using a 2g flywheel ... when i take out the pilot bearing ... do i replace it with something or just leave it out also, I have the o1 galant 2.4 and i got a 2000 ecu from 3g when i plug it in should ever thing be cool or do i have to do something else to it ...o also what boot are u guys using a 3g one

[Galantman03]

Iam using a 2g flywheel ... when i take out the pilot bearing ... do i replace it with something or just leave it out also, I have the o1 galant 2.4 and i got a 2000 ecu from 3g when i plug it in should ever thing be cool or do i have to do something else to it ...o also what boot are u guys using a 3g one

from what i understand you won't be needing the pilot bearing if you use the 2nd flywheel, idk about the ecu, boot? you mean shift boot?

[rocky 8g]

yea shift boot

[Galantman03]

i think it should work from the eclipse, idk for sure though... i made my own to match my interior.... lol

[stvn_mj]

There was a thread that said shift boots from the 1G Eclipse, 3000GT and Mirage fit.

[Galantman03]

^ i did not know that lol wow.. i learn something everytime i'm on here.....

[g-ride]

alright awesome thats what i wasnt sure about..so a new ecu isnt necessary then? i dont know why but i felt like i read that somewhere.. but thanks for the help, im starting tomorrow i cant wait.

[rocky 8g]

ok a lil stuck here how do i get this pilot bearing out

[bronxbombr]

you can either chisel, prybar, or screw driver it. Or go to autozone and rent the tool for it.

[rocky 8g]

ill try that iam doing it now thx

[rocky 8g]

wow yo this ish really works i got pilot bearing out in less than 5mins http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xuR7T8G1Ys

[beam514]

Just a note: If you get an OEM replacement shift boot for the 91-99 3000gt, the base isn't wide enough for the trim ring in the 8G. I'll get pics of it when I can

[stvn_mj]

^Damn and I was gonna get one. There was a thread where its said they would fit. Also the 1g eclipse shift boot would fit but you need to remove the wire on the base.

[rocky 8g]

Ok I got ever thing in but when I turn the key I get this click the high speed winding sound from starter as if its not hitting the flywheel I. Try useing 2 1/8 washers one on each bolt and it still dose the same thing ..... I check my pullys to see if they are spinig when I crank the car but their not spining...then I check flywheel to see where its at and its in the right place .......fyi iam using 2g flywheel and starter

[rocky 8g]

is their a differents in flywheels for the 1997 fwd and awd cuz i belive they sent me a awd one cuz the teeth are not next to starter

[GOOSEY2099]

yes it has to be a FWD.

[g-ride]

how did you guys mount the top of the clutch pedal assembly? theirs clearly a spot but im just wondering how exactly did you attach it? Im assuming through bolts but im a bit nervous to go drilling into that piece.

[fatal1]

yep bolts

[Jeffylou87]

The pedal attaches to the mater cylinder.. The master cylinder has two bolts coming into the firewall where those pre cut out holes are.. Those bolts is where the clutch pedal will attach to.

[mrg7243]

is there something on putting the clutch on correctly and running all the lines, sorry i know nothing about trans if somebody could show me a diagram of it all it would help greatly. thanks

[stvn_mj]

The diagram is on the first page look where its says research. It has pages of diagrams Goosey used for this swap.

[g-ride]

yeah i know that but is that the only thing holding it in place? theirs mounting holes on the upper part of the pedal assembly apart from the master... or is that part unnecessary?

[mrg7243]

The diagram is on the first page look where its says research. It has pages of diagrams Goosey used for this swap.

haha thanks man i didnt realize that was a link. On installing the cltuch the link was dead

[Galantman03]

yeah i know that but is that the only thing holding it in place? theirs mounting holes on the upper part of the pedal assembly apart from the master... or is that part unnecessary?
you have two bolts on the firewall, and then 2 bolts up top underneather your dash pretty much.... but you will have to buy those 2, and the bolts that come with the master, are the same thread and pitch as the ones that go underneath the dash, 15mm long thats what i got.. fit perfect...

[4g64terror]

So whats the deal with re-wiring the speed sensor on the 2002 models? Cant seem to find anything and im about to go buy a 2002 GTZ...i found where u can just pull out the tranny solenoids and plug them in to stop that CEL but I dont see anything on the speed sensor? Also, do I need a transmission mount from the manual car and which mount is it? thanks!!

[beam514]

I don't know about the speed sensor, but you need the driver side transmission/engine mount
ie: the one that bolts to the top of the transmission

[4g64terror]

Ah ok..I remembered on my 7G the lower one was different..Ill keep that in mind!

[beam514]

well actually, on the V6 you have to change the driver side passenger mount.. dunno about the I4. I thought it was the same, but this tutorial doesn't say anything about it

[4g64terror]

no no no..the one i am looking at is a V6...the driver passenger side mount? you mean the driver side mount? lol...2002 GTZ

[beam514]

oops yea total brain fart. You need the driver side mount. You also need the passenger side intermediate shaft

[g-ride]

clutch pedal/master cylinder question...

so i went to mount it all up today but while i was in the process i realized that the rod coming out of the mc where the bracket connects to the pedal doesnt give the pedal much play from the floor...in fact only about 2-3 inches max...i was wondering if anybody else has encountered this problem, i fucked with the thing for about an hour and couldnt really make much adjustment, the pedals still practically resting on the floor... Both parts are from 3g eclipses so i dont know what the problem is or if im doing something wrong, can it be adjusted?? The only thing i can think to do is extend the rod on the mc if not...if anybodys got any ideas about this please let me know

[g-ride]

i saw the clutch pedal adjuster link on the first page but its broken...

[g-ride]

http://img251.imageshack.us/i/dsc0522k.jpg/[/IMG]

http://img411.imageshack.us/i/dsc0521y.jpg/[/IMG]

ive got the pedals in reverse order but thats the clutch on the right

[g-ride]

hopefully these are the right parts...

[beam514]

you need to fix your IMG code, but I'm pretty sure those are the right parts
If the MC is from a 3G, you should have enough floor clearance. Are you sure you're extending the rod out all the way? Also are you sure that the pedal isn't just falling to the floor since there's no hydraulic pressure

[g-ride]

when i connect the pedal and the rod is at full extension its almost to the floor...im going to play with it some more today theirs a good chance im just doing something wrong if nobody else has run into this issue

[g-ride]

got it...just needed to round out the firewall holes and get the pedal in the right seat, but thanks

[KockDiezel09]

where did u find the transmission? what kind is it?

[g-ride]

3g eclipse dude...

[M-Rod]

3g eclipse dude...

Don't forget about the Dodge Stratus R/T for the V6 guys, and the 4G64-equipped Stratus SXT for the 4 cylinder owners.

Also, the Chrysler Sebring LXi in some instances was available with the F5M51 M/T.

[Bloody Arro]

wait.. V6 can use the stratus?? what year?

[fatal1]

yea i beilieve its the 2g startus came with the mitsu 6g72

[M-Rod]

wait.. V6 can use the stratus?? what year?

V6 or 4 cylinder, doesn't matter. As long as the donor car has the correct transmission.

The Dodge Stratus R/T Coupe and Chrysler Sebring LXi Coupe both have the F5M51 Transmission used for the V6 5-speed swap.

The 4 cylinder guys can also get a 5-speed transmission from the Dodge Stratus SXT Coupe and Chrysler Sebring LX Coupe.

[rocky 8g]

? how many washersdo u guys have spacing the starter off from the block ..cuz i have try one 1/8 washer and i still get this grinding sound from starter hiting flywheel ...fyi iam using a 2g aftermarket flywheel and 2g eclipse starter flywheel is Fidanza
then sometimes car dose not start at all ,,,,

[g-ride]

okay so today i pulled the tranny. so ive gone with a fidanza flywheel specd out for the 3g eclipse, the one importautopartsplus.com posted in this forum for the swap... so im putting in the screws for it (the ones that came with it) and they dont seem to want to seat all the way in and they are sticking out a tad.. has anyone else run into this? and yeah i tried using the automatics flywheels screws and theyre too short...maybe i just need to brace the flywheel better as i torque them? and help would be greatly appreciated...this would not be a good part to screw up heh...

[g-ride]

well i couldnt figure it out so i just cut the bolts about an eighth of an inch and loctited them...everything feels nice and sturdy none the less.

Completely reassembled my interior with the new shifter assembly and cables...and my pedals are all in...monday i plan to put in my clutch and flexplate followed by the MT...cant wait.

and does anybody know a site that sells a shift boot that fits the galant? the universal matrix boot i bought is way too tall and skinny.

[beam514]

supposedly the Acura Integra boot fits; however people said that the 3000gt boot fits too, and I bought one and it was too skinny, so I would double check with some people. HungarianHunter was making custom shift boots for the Galant a little while back. I PM'd him about making one, but his sewing machine was out of service. It might be fixed again, but I have no idea. You could always just try to make one yourself. They're fairly simple.

[g-ride]

Alright well ive got my transmission in, suspension all back together, everythings good to go and im ready to add fluid, and put the battery/intake back in.

But ive been reviewing tutorials and i dont really understand the wiring part of it..

what do i need to plug in and what plugs am i not going to use anymore?

Also when you guys talk about shorting out pins 9&10 in order to start the car. what does that mean?

[g-ride]

i understand i need to cross some wires with some of those blue clips but which ones?

[Galantman03]

Alright well ive got my transmission in, suspension all back together, everythings good to go and im ready to add fluid, and put the battery/intake back in.

But ive been reviewing tutorials and i dont really understand the wiring part of it..

what do i need to plug in and what plugs am i not going to use anymore?

Also when you guys talk about shorting out pins 9&10 in order to start the car. what does that mean?

basically, you short the wires to make the ecu think its in nuetral... so it will start, because in a auto the car whille only start in park and nuetral.... and for the plugs if you have a 99-01 you won't use the plug that goes to the soleniods....

[g-ride]

i understand that but which wires am i shorting?? what colors? i know its 9 and 10 but i dont know which ones those are..

[stvn_mj]

Look at the last page of the 6G72 5 speed tut and there you will find that color of the wires.

[g-ride]

Look at the last page of the 6G72 5 speed tut and there you will find that color of the wires.
thanks alot, started up a little rough but once it settled down its running nice!

[g-ride]

just need to adjust my clutch pedal, figure out the reverse lights and the speedo and everythings done!

[g-ride]

so what do i need to buy/do to get the speedometer working/reverse lights...

[beam514]

For the reverse lights, you just need to connect your reverse solenoid (on your transmission) to the correct two pins on the B-39 connector.

For the speedometer, Cali posted a how-to:
https://www.thegalantcenter.org/showthread.php?t=19778

It didn't come up in the search because "speedometer" is never mentioned haha

[g-ride]

thanks alot man, and congrats on cotm!

[Galantman03]

From Gooseys Tuturiol...

http://www.vertsoft.com/cars/images/2001%20MITSUBISHI%20GALANT/8G5SPDSWAP/ARRIVAL/ARRIVAL001_SMALL.jpg
the two mounts on the tranny, the one that mounts to the firewall area, and the other one that mounts to the radiator area... can you use the auto tranny mounts, or do you have to get new ones specifically for the manual trans? thanks

[4g63lover]

the front and rear roller mounts and brackets from the auto are compatible with the 5-speed trans. Just take it off the auto and swap it over to the 5-speed.

[Galantman03]

thanks 4g63lover, i kinda figured but just wanted to make sure, but i'm think about replacing the mounts while its out.... i'm pretty sure they need to be changed....

[Galantman03]

So...... Does anybody know the Transmission mount part# for the manual transmission.. nobody can get a mount that fits on the manual.. all the mounts they list for fits the automatic one.... i just want to make sure this W0133-1613844 is the right number before i order for a third time lol... thanks guys...

[4g63lover]

go to C3G and look in the wanted ads. You need the manual trans mount for the 3G Eclipse. 2000-2005. Manual Trans mount for the 2001-2006 Dodge Stratus Coupe will work as well.

[kvs_movement]

have everything ready for the conversion, but a little confused on the wires part. in page 1 goosey said to cut wires 9 and 10 to start the car and then join 7 and 8 for reverse. In page 2 he states to join 5 and 8 to start the car and 6 and 7 for the reverse lights. i have an 02 galant es I4. please clarify.

[kvs_movement]

After two years of planning, researching, and dreaming, I have finally installed my 5 speed in my 8g. So, I need to pay my dues here. First of, thank you galant center for having this forum up, it was, and is great source of knolewdge. Second, thanks goosey for this thread on how to do the conversion. Trust me, I have disected this thread to its bones. And finally, the community that keeps inputing valuable tips, and knowledge.

[ISMASG90]

Man, everyone is doing a swap to their cars. I was thinking about doing it as well.

[Poison457]

you really should Ismas, it breathed new life into my G, it was hard back breaking labor doing it myself in the driveway, but it was worth it, even the Rotator Cuff injury from taking out the damned bolts for the shifter cable, i get better gas milage, it's more fun to drive. if for ANY other reason, if you have the ablity and the $$$$, you should do it for the added gas mileage. I'm saving about $8 a week in gas so in a year the swap will have nearly payed for it self just in gas mileage, and that's not including when I go turbo how much MORE fun it will be to drive.

[WhiteGalant]

I'm swapped if u need a hand.

[ISMASG90]

You got it, thats why i want to do it for fun and performance. Im being sincere, I really dont know how to do it but I guess I'll learn something here. Im curious and hopefully this year I'll do it. :)

[ISMASG90]

WG, thanks man! Im gonna start saving for anything that needs to be spent on.

[WhiteGalant]

Yea I have a thread on here with all the parts I needed along with prices and where I got it from.

[Galante]

What happened to the pictures from the 1st page? looks broken, is it just me or true for everyone?

[Johnathansgalant]

pics are broken. Any one know which shifter bushings fit? For the cables and the base? do i need to get for the 2g eclipse or is there a specific one for the 3g? Thanks

[GOOSEY2099]

I'll fix it...

[Johnathansgalant]

hey are you still running the act 2100? how is it holding up with the turbo? Im thinking about getting it because the last eclipse i drove had it and it felt good.

[GOOSEY2099]

Its running goood

[Exhaust power]

I have a question is any one running with out a pilot bearing? any problems? because the sonata flywheel center is too small for the stock pilot and i know its the same with a 2g flywheel.

dealer only will sell the pilot bearing to me with the flywheel.