Upgrading to GTS Headlights?

[Rising_Suns]

Hey all,
I was curious if there is a way to upgrade from a Galant ES/LS/etc headlight assembly to the GTS headlight assembly.

Has anyone tried cutting the 9007 plug off, and replacing it with a 9005/6 plug?

Thanks!

-Davide

[Rising_Suns]

Ok. Since this post has had 32 views so far, and no responses, I will go ahead and talk to myself then.

So I noticed something interesting: I can get a fog light kit from the dealership for $100 (which I did already). These come stock on the GTS, but not on the lower models. The neat thing is, the LS is already wired for the fog light upgrade, so all you need to do is plug in the lights and the switch and you're in business. The kit comes with everything you need. It's a simple 15 minute job.

The reason why I bring this up, is because the fog lights are H1's, and I noticed that they seem to be simialr in shape and size to that of the 9005/6's that the GTS lights require.

So, just maybe, (and I'm really stretching here), I could get the H1's to fit properly in the 9006 (projector) slot on the GTS assembly. If this works, then I can get an H1 HID kit and I'm good to go: GTS headlights with HID's on a non-GTS galant (never thought it would be possible).

So, I already bought myself a driver side GTS headlight assembly on ebay (to experiment with), so I'll go ahead and see if I can work out something.

Another thought I had was to disassemble the headlight assembly, and perhaps interchange parts. But it appears as if the inner components of the headlight is basically one piece...if not one piece, then glued (sealed) pretty darn well together.

Anyway, I'm just thinking out loud, in case some straggler comes by with a brighter idea than my ghetto fisher price ideas (which I'm praying is the case).

-Davide

[9G]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rising_Suns)</div><div class='quotemain'>Hey all,
I was curious if there is a way to upgrade from a Galant ES/LS/etc headlight assembly to the GTS headlight assembly. Â*

Has anyone tried cutting the 9007 plug off, and replacing it with a 9005/6 plug?

Thanks!

-Davide</div>

hmmm... so no introduction ey?

Q1: Yes. Its a complete bolt on besides the low/high beam bulbs.
Q2: Yes. I have.

[9G]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rising_Suns)</div><div class='quotemain'>Ok. Since this post has had 32 views so far, and no responses, I will go ahead and talk to myself then.

So I noticed something interesting: I can get a fog light kit from the dealership for $100 (which I did already). These come stock on the GTS, but not on the lower models. The neat thing is, the LS is already wired for the fog light upgrade, so all you need to do is plug in the lights and the switch and you're in business. The kit comes with everything you need. It's a simple 15 minute job. Â*

The reason why I bring this up, is because the fog lights are H1's, and I noticed that they seem to be simialr in shape and size to that of the 9005/6's that the GTS lights require. Â*

So, just maybe, (and I'm really stretching here), I could get the H1's to fit properly in the 9006 (projector) slot on the GTS assembly. If this works, then I can get an H1 HID kit and I'm good to go: GTS headlights with HID's on a non-GTS galant (never thought it would be possible).

So, I already bought myself a driver side GTS headlight assembly on ebay (to experiment with), so I'll go ahead and see if I can work out something. Â*

Another thought I had was to disassemble the headlight assembly, and perhaps interchange parts. But it appears as if the inner components of the headlight is basically one piece...if not one piece, then glued (sealed) pretty darn well together.

Anyway, I'm just thinking out loud, in case some straggler comes by with a brighter idea than my ghetto fisher price ideas (which I'm praying is the case).

-Davide</div>

1. all of the models are wired up for the foglights.
2. why buy an H1 HIDs when you can buy HID kits for 9006?
3. how much did you pay for it?
4. its actually 3 peice if you include the body itself and the lens. Get a heat gun to seperate the lens from the body. once you open it up, the black chrome that you see is connected to the lens by 2 small screws.
5. pics! pics! pics! https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif

[Rising_Suns]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(9G)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rising_Suns)</div><div class='quotemain'>Hey all,
I was curious if there is a way to upgrade from a Galant ES/LS/etc headlight assembly to the GTS headlight assembly. Â*

Has anyone tried cutting the 9007 plug off, and replacing it with a 9005/6 plug?

Thanks!

-Davide</div>

hmmm... so no introduction ey?

Q1: Yes. Its a complete bolt on besides the low/high beam bulbs.
Q2: Yes. I have.</div>

You've done this? Any problems? CEL throw any code?

You see, ultimately I'd like to put HID's in the GTS lights. Done this too? https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif

[9G]

yupyup. theres another member who has hids, too. maybe more but im not sure.

No problems at all since i can't think of any reasons why it would cause the engine light to turn on or throw a code.

Just buy a 9006 HID Kit and you'ld be set. well, youll need the passenger side headlight but other than that, you'll just need to slipce some wires and as long as you do it right, everything should work as how you want it to be.

[Rising_Suns]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(9G)</div><div class='quotemain'>1. all of the models are wired up for the foglights.
2. why buy an H1 HIDs when you can buy HID kits for 9006?
3. how much did you pay for it?
4. its actually 3 peice if you include the body itself and the lens. Get a heat gun to seperate the lens from the body. once you open it up, the black chrome that you see is connected to the lens by 2 small screws.
5. pics! pics! pics! https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif</div>

1. didn't know that.

2. I see what your saying. I didn't realize that the power supply to the H1 fogs would be sufficient for 9006 HID bulbs. So all I would need then, is a 9006 male connector. Know where I can get one?

3. $200 shipped

4. Aha. Thanks!

5. In due time. https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif

[9G]

wows. $200 each. Must be brand spankin new!!!

well as for the wiring stuff, first, how do you want them to turn on?

1. on all the time
2. on only when you turn on the headlight switch. (alot of work because of DRL)
3. my setup. i have my 9006 HIDs connected to the foglight wires so they only turn on when you press the fog light switch. I also have it wired with a 9006 connector just in case i need to put a halogen bulb on them. My lowbeam wires are connected to the fog lights so the fogs are on all the time because of DRL.

[Rising_Suns]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(9G)</div><div class='quotemain'>wows. $200 each. Must be brand spankin new!!!

well as for the wiring stuff, first, how do you want them to turn on? Â*

1. on all the time
2. on only when you turn on the headlight switch. (alot of work because of DRL)
3. my setup. i have my 9006 HIDs connected to the foglight wires so they only turn on when you press the fog light switch. I also have it wired with a 9006 connector just in case i need to put a halogen bulb on them. Â*My lowbeam wires are connected to the fog lights so the fogs are on all the time because of DRL.</div>

Well, I was leaning towards your setup (#3), but I wasn't sure if the fogs power supply was ample enough for 9006 HID's. But if you did it without any issues, then I'll probably take this route.

So, where can I get a 9006 male connector?

And thanks for the help!!!

-Davide

[9G]

you can get a 9006 connector from any auto stores. i got 4 from advance auto parts and modified 2 of them so they would fit the 9005 high beam lights.

BTW, hid kits use 35W per side instead of the regular 55W each hologen bulb use.

[Rising_Suns]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(9G)</div><div class='quotemain'>you can get a 9006 connector from any auto stores. i got 4 from advance auto parts and modified 2 of them so they would fit the 9005 high beam lights.

BTW, hid kits use 35W per side instead of the regular 55W each hologen bulb use.</div>

I see, thanks!

Quick question; How do you power the 9005's?

Thanks again for the info. It's good to see that someone else paved the way ahead of my. I was beginning to get worried that I'd have to be the guinny pig.

[9G]

just find the wire for the high beam. when you splice the 9007 connector, there are 3 wires. ground, low, and high. just use a test light or a multimeter to check which is which.

[Rising_Suns]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(9G)</div><div class='quotemain'>just find the wire for the high beam. when you splice the 9007 connector, there are 3 wires. ground, low, and high. just use a test light or a multimeter to check which is which.</div>

:idea:

That's good to know. I just assumed that the highbeam and low beam in were in 1 variable current wire (I'm a mechanical engineer, not an EE, as you can see.)

Thanks!

[9G]

3 wires on each headlight(on the es/ls model, the three wires all go in the 9007 connector) so they both use the same ground but have 2 different wires for the high and the low. You'll see when you pull the plug for your headlights now.

[Rising_Suns]

Just out of curiosity, which HID kit do you have. I'm unsure which one to buy. I had a Prolumen 5000K kit on my old M3, and was pretty happy with it. It had a nice purple hue to it. But I think I'd like something a little whiter this time, perhaps with a slight blue tint...not sure if there is something in between 4300K and 5000K though.

[9G]

i have the mcculah(???) kit. bought it from ebay about a year ago for $300. my ttemp light is 6000k. i started with 5300k thinking it was white but it ended up looking yellowish so i got the 6000k and it more whitish/purpleish and looks OEM or comparable to other cars who has oem hids.

[Rising_Suns]

awesome. do you have any pics of the setup?

[5280nineG]

So I noticed something interesting: I can get a fog light kit from the dealership for $100 (which I did already). These come stock on the GTS, but not on the lower models. The neat thing is, the LS is already wired for the fog light upgrade, so all you need to do is plug in the lights and the switch and you're in business. The kit comes with everything you need. It's a simple 15 minute job.


That is awesome...gonna have to look into that. So did the kit come with the foglights, wiring, and switch?

[Rising_Suns]

That is awesome...gonna have to look into that. So did the kit come with the foglights, wiring, and switch?

The kit comes with everything you need; the fog lights, the switch, fuse, and directions. No wires, since the wiring is already there. All you do is plug in the lights, snap in the switch and the fuse, and that's it. https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif

[5280nineG]

Thanks! Do you know of anywhere online I could order it...I hate going to the dealership but I will if I have to.

[Rising_Suns]

Thanks! Do you know of anywhere online I could order it...I hate going to the dealership but I will if I have to.

Hmmm, there used to be some dealerships selling the kit on ebay for about $100. I just did a search though and didn't come up with much.

You could just call up your local dealership and have them order it for you. I don't think it would be that much more expensive.

-Davide

[Rising_Suns]

9G,
Got a question for you.

I finally started working on the lights, and ran into some difficulty installing the GTS units. Since they are larger (deeper) than the stock headlights, they don't seem to want to slip in.

I was just curious how you went about it. Did you have to do some cutting, or did you take you bumper off first?

Thanks bro,

-Davide

[9G]

remove the bumper. go around the bumper and there are like a million clips but there are only 3x 10mm bolts on each side on the bumper.

if you chose not to remove the bumper, just take all the clips off on the bumper from under the hood but it will be easier if you remove the bumper since this is your first install.

[Rising_Suns]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(9G)</div><div class='quotemain'>remove the bumper. go around the bumper and there are like a million clips but there are only 3x 10mm bolts on each side on the bumper.

if you chose not to remove the bumper, just take all the clips off on the bumper from under the hood but it will be easier if you remove the bumper since this is your first install.</div>

9G,
Can you tell me where the bolts are? I can't seem to find them. Pictures would help. : )


Thanks bro,

-Davide

[9G]

bolts are on the sides of the car. one is closest to the front wheel well.
remove as much plastic clips on the wheel well and kinda pull the plastic wheel well cover back so you can get access to the bolts.

The best way to get the bolts off is to get a screwdriver with a 10mm socket on it and remove it by puting your arm inside the bumper from the wheel well and start loosening the bolt.

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/2955/2004mitsubishigalant114112kl.jpg

the plastic clips has a screw in the middle and has a body. the best way to remove them is to use a flat head screw driver and pry the plastic screw off then pry the body.

so all you really need is a flat head screw driver and a 10mm socket with a ratchet and a screwdriver that you can put the socket in.

[Rising_Suns]

Thanks 9G. You're the man.

I started up working on it again about two hours ago and things are going smoothly now. I didn't have to remove the bumper completely from the car, but just enough to be able to remove the old lights and slip the GTS lights in.

The rewire was easy enough; red power, black ground, and the other colored wire is for your high beams (which I can probably tap into in the future with a 9007 if I wanted to..you did this right 9G?).

Anyway, I'm about to hook up the relay now, which will disable my DRL's by using the parking lights as the switching source. So when I turn my parking lights on, my headlights will come on at the same time.

..will report back here later...

[9G]

cool!

i removed the 9007 completely but i put in a 9006 harness just incase the hids dies so i can just plug in a normal 9006 bulb.

[Rising_Suns]

Ok, I finally got around to taking a snap shot!

http://x402.putfile.com/4/11721465130.jpg

[9G]

link doesn't work. https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif

[Rising_Suns]

link doesn't work. https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif

Does it work now?

[9G]

yeah. looks nice. btw, are those 17s or 18s?

[Rising_Suns]

Vanity shots...

http://x402.putfile.com/4/11721585491.jpg

http://x402.putfile.com/4/11722065249.jpg

[9G]

hey, hows the relection on the housing?

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/9803/117220342354jw.jpg

Mine was too bright so I painted mine flat black and now, no blinding anyone anymore.

[Rising_Suns]

The "relection"? You mean, the reflection?

[9G]

hehe yeshhh. reflection/glare.

[Rising_Suns]

hehe yeshhh. reflection/glare.

It's not too bad. It would be nice if the housing lens was glass instead of plastic though.

Once I get my HID's in tomorrow afternoon, I'll take some walls shots tomorrow night so we can see if there's any glare there.

-Davide

[Rising_Suns]

Yep, there's some glare. The halogen projector didn't take to the HID bulb very well. It could be worse though.

Time for a retrofit? :wink:

http://x402.putfile.com/4/11900450782.jpg

[9G]

yeah, i had that pattern before and i was sure people are not gonna like that so I opened mine up and painted it flat black. problem solved. The stock black chrome paint just destroys the point of the projectors.

[Rising_Suns]

yeah, i had that pattern before and i was sure people are not gonna like that so I opened mine up and painted it flat black. problem solved. The stock black chrome paint just destroys the point of the projectors.

I see. So the light is actually reflecting off of the shiny black housing, casuing that glare spot?

9G, could you take some pics of your beam pattern for me?

Thanks!

-Davide

[9G]

there is still some glare but not blinding glare. I'll try to take pix tonight but my headlight alignment might be off alittle bit due from the accident.

[Rising_Suns]

there is still some glare but not blinding glare. I'll try to take pix tonight but my headlight alignment might be off alittle bit due from the accident.

Ok, thanks!

-Davide

[9G]

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/4415/glare5up.jpg

I guess I do have some glare but not blinding glare.

[Rising_Suns]

Yeah, a little glare probably won't blind anyone. And, in some ways, it could help your visibility, of road signs and what not. Has anyone flashed you yet?

Nice drawing by the way. He doesn't look too happy about that glare.

-Davide

[9G]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rising_Suns)</div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, a little glare probably won't blind anyone. And, in some ways, it could help your visibility, of road signs and what not. Has anyone flashed you yet?

Nice drawing by the way. He doesn't look too happy about that glare.

-Davide</div>

nah. I took my time adjusting the headlight up and down and checking far(sitting height) if it passes the projected light or not so no one gets blinded.