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Sleepervr-4
06-04-2006, 06:34 PM
Thinking about turboing my stock motor so what do you guys thing about the 14b turbo or do you think I should go with a tdo6 20g?

stopfakn
06-04-2006, 06:52 PM
If going stock you're gonna need some upgrades . Btw auto or manual? This has been covered so search around the forum. I'm sure someone can get the link up for ya. Good luck

Proto
06-04-2006, 06:55 PM
14b or 16g. 20g is probaly a little extreme for a stock 4g64

seth98esT
06-04-2006, 06:55 PM
Thats a big leap man lol. In both price and performance. SHould I get a $100 turbo or a $700 turbo?

Depends on your goals. On a stock motor, a 16g is going to be able to suite your low boost needs better. Small 16g, 16g, big 16g, evo3 16g, all good turbos.

Sleepervr-4
06-04-2006, 06:58 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(stopfakn)</div><div class='quotemain'>If going stock you're gonna need some upgrades . Btw auto or manual? This has been covered so search around the forum. I'm sure someone can get the link up for ya. Good luck</div>

I come from a dsm background so I have most of the parts to turbo my 4g64 and from reading on this site I understand that the only thing I need for the bottom end is pistons and a 4g63 turbo head wouldn't be bad. I just don't want to buy a 14b when I could get a good deal on a tdo6 20g right now.

DOHCstunr
06-04-2006, 07:03 PM
its just where you want your power man. you could spool a tdo6 with ease if you were dohc.
but will you have the fuel to support it?
since you are going to be on the stock ecu,. without timing control, or the availability of eproms for those big boy injectors. its going to require some serious tuning.

but if you go dohc, you would be running a 2g ecu. so you would be in decent shape.


its just about money man. how far did you want to go.

14b is a great start cause it doesn't flow enough to require huge injectors on that motor.
and they are very easily obtained.

Sleepervr-4
06-04-2006, 07:10 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DOHCstunr)</div><div class='quotemain'>its just where you want your power man. Â*you could spool a tdo6 with ease if you were dohc.
but will you have the fuel to support it?
since you are going to be on the stock ecu,. without timing control, or the availability of eproms for those big boy injectors. Â*its going to require some serious tuning.

but if you go dohc, you would be running a 2g ecu. Â*so you would be in decent shape.


its just about money man. Â*how far did you want to go.

14b is a great start cause it doesn't flow enough to require huge injectors on that motor.
and they are very easily obtained.</div>

I just sold my 2g tsi awd because I needed a 4 door so I want to have a 12 sec daily driver again. I know its going to be harder cause I don't have awd with the galant but that is my goal.

djmtz263306
06-04-2006, 10:37 PM
wouldnt a 16g setup do just fine on the stock 4g64 i know it works on an 8th g 4g64

peanotation
06-04-2006, 11:10 PM
any 16g will hold 8psi very well on a 4g64

Sleepervr-4
06-05-2006, 08:42 AM
so a 16g should just fine on a 4g64 w/ a 1g turbo dsm dohc head.

SuperGALANT
06-05-2006, 08:46 AM
ur galant is a 96? how are you going to stay obdii complient w/ a 1g head, you will need a 2g computer and even then its not officially obdii.. how are the inspections in nyc?

seth98esT
06-05-2006, 08:48 AM
You can run a 1g head on a 2g ECU. Wiring wise, the 1g head just uses a different CAS. Looks, it looks the same as any other DOHC head.

DOHCstunr
06-05-2006, 09:21 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(seth98esT)</div><div class='quotemain'>You can run a 1g head on a 2g ECU. Â*Wiring wise, the 1g head just uses a different CAS. Â*Looks, it looks the same as any other DOHC head.</div>
just much larger intake ports.

Sleepervr-4
06-05-2006, 10:13 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(SuperGALANT)</div><div class='quotemain'>ur galant is a 96? how are you going to stay obdii complient w/ a 1g head, you will need a 2g computer and even then its not officially obdii.. how are the inspections in nyc?</div>

inspection is not a problem for me :wink:

Sleepervr-4
06-05-2006, 10:16 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DOHCstunr)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(seth98esT)</div><div class='quotemain'>You can run a 1g head on a 2g ECU. Â*Wiring wise, the 1g head just uses a different CAS. Â*Looks, it looks the same as any other DOHC head.</div>
just much larger intake ports.</div>

bingo about the ports so do you think I should go with a 1g head or 2g head.

Sleepervr-4
06-06-2006, 08:46 AM
Ok picked up a 14b from a 91 galant vr-4. So any thoughts on which head would be better for the 4g64 bottom end and 14b?

DOHCstunr
06-06-2006, 10:59 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Sleepervr-4)</div><div class='quotemain'>Ok picked up a 14b from a 91 galant vr-4. So any thoughts on which head would be better for the 4g64 bottom end and 14b?</div>
i would go with the 1g head.

one of the reasons the 2g head has smaller ports was to increase intake velocity. which helps to generate torque. of course the reason they wanted it was to reduce turbo lag.

since you will be using a 4g64. torque is not an issue, so much as top end.
so i would definatly go with the 1g big port head. that way you will make more power up top where you want it. and you really won't be sacrificing bottom end.

not to mention that the 1g head hs the better cams