View Full Version : 02 Manual Swap Speedo FIX!
even though the speedo sensor is no longer there in the 02's, the actual gauge cluster did not change so therefore the speedo gauge is still going to work off the same voltage regardless of what type of sensor is giving the increments. (mitsubishi obviously knew this that's why the change was a no biggie to do)
Run two new wires into the cabin. since your using the m/t, you splice those two wires into the speedo sensor on the tranny. the other two wires you splice into the main connector that's under the dash (it's connector C-17-look in the manual to locate it) Pins are 3 and 4.
voila! that's it. there might be an easier way without running the wires but this is what i could figure out without actually having the car in front of me but it works.
newguyonblock
10-01-2006, 04:11 PM
even though the speedo sensor is no longer there in the 02's, the actual gauge cluster did not change so therefore the speedo gauge is still going to work off the same voltage regardless of what type of sensor is giving the increments. (mitsubishi obviously knew this that's why the change was a no biggie to do)
Run two new wires into the cabin. since your using the m/t, you splice those two wires into the speedo sensor on the tranny. the other two wires you splice into the main connector that's under the dash (it's connector C-17-look in the manual to locate it) Pins are 3 and 4.
voila! that's it. there might be an easier way without running the wires but this is what i could figure out without actually having the car in front of me but it works.
Yoou are the man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! now i just gotta wait until next year when i return from my deployment to do this lol.
02galant
10-01-2006, 08:32 PM
Any luck with the CEL on Remedy's car?
Any luck with the CEL on Remedy's car?
no actually i havent seen him much lately he doenst drive his car much for some reason....
i keep losing the codes that are thrown post them up again so i can start looking into it again.
8gV65spd
10-01-2006, 09:16 PM
8am tomorrow I am going to finish what I started today. Thank You!
If this clears my service engine soon light after I sauder those 3 wires to the harness I am going to owe a big thanx. Just to make sure the c-17 harness is the one closest to the center console by the floor board? I'm pretty sure myself, I had been testing this theory on paper but couldn't get myself to committ.
After your post, I ran out and put a multi-meter to the harneses and ends of those wires in the engine bay to make sure they were the right ones. Everything range out.
8am tomorrow I am going to finish what I started today. Thank You!
If this clears my service engine soon light after I sauder those 3 wires to the harness I am going to owe a big thanx. Just to make sure the c-17 harness is the one closest to the center console by the floor board? I'm pretty sure myself, I had been testing this theory on paper but couldn't get myself to committ.
After your post, I ran out and put a multi-meter to the harneses and ends of those wires in the engine bay to make sure they were the right ones. Everything range out.
this fix is only to make your speedo work it wont make your CEL go away. and yes, thats were C-17 is found.
bronxbombr
10-02-2006, 02:40 AM
One small step.................Well you know the rest
PDT1631
10-04-2006, 07:33 PM
So does this fix all of the problems with the 03 I heard some say that it will throw a cel and others that say it doesnt.
8gV65spd
10-05-2006, 06:33 PM
So does this fix all of the problems with the 03 I heard some say that it will throw a cel and others that say it doesnt.
I'll let you know this weekend when I can finish the wiring.
theblackpearl
10-17-2006, 09:39 PM
my speedo still isnt hooked up..haha
paparishi90
04-22-2008, 07:55 AM
so did anyone ever check if it worked out on the 03 model.
RAZ_76
04-22-2008, 08:38 AM
If it works on the 02 model it will work on the 03. Same thing dude. 02-03 models are identical.
paparishi90
04-22-2008, 09:14 AM
excellent, then i will proceed to order my tranny now.
Stewi
04-22-2008, 07:47 PM
holy two year old thread revival
yeah the other way to do this is locate the speedo wires on the connector that goes to the auto tranny and send the signal thru those wires rather than running wires into the cabin. There has to be wires that go to the internal speed sensor coming off one of those connectors.
paparishi90
05-02-2008, 09:48 PM
ya that makes sense i'll see if the service manual is any help for that one.
paparishi90
08-01-2008, 12:42 PM
Ok i tried this speedo fix and so far its not working... is there anything i have to do when connecting it to the speed sensor to the 3 and 4 wire. Which wire goes to 3 or 4 is there any combination that you have to do etc.
Stewi
08-01-2008, 07:55 PM
process of elimination, try it both ways.
AVERAGE
08-11-2008, 01:53 PM
Any hope for us guys that have to get smog tested (02-03)?
run1206
02-04-2010, 03:06 AM
I know this thread hasn't been used in a while, but i know many members (2002-2003) are doing the manual tranny swap who can use this thread for help with the speedo. Even though I bought a speed sensor from cali, I decided to also help out with the process with illistrations.
edit: already in the tutorial section, my bad :icon_redface: :lol:
(Mods: i'll get actual pics of the harness and associated wires within this week for further reference.)
First, cali refers to the C-17 harness. The location of c-17 is on the left-hand side of the center console, near the accelerator pedal.
Figure-1
Source: Galant Service Manual: 80A pages 16&17
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/run1206/car%20photos/C-17Location.jpg
(i'll try to take a pic of the actual harness sometime within the week)
the actual harness has 38 wire locations, pins 3 and 4 are on the upper right corner.
Figure-2
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/run1206/car%20photos/C-17harness.jpg
One of the other pages illustrated the connections of wires 3 & 4 from C-17 to the speed sensor. The dotted line means the wires are from the same connector (C-17).
Figure-3
Source: 80A page 89
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/run1206/car%20photos/C-17WireNumbersandColors.jpg
I'm assuming the two wires (3&4) are for signal and power, and a third on the sensor for ground. I still have yet to wire up my speed sensor to test where each of the wires go. I'll also search for the diagrams of the speed sensor itself (not the harness), as well as show pics of the sensor later on.
Big thanks to Cali for the speed sensor, will try to wire it either friday or saturday. :orangesmile:
WhiteGalant
02-04-2010, 04:31 AM
Yea I know theres gotta be an easier way, Im gonna try to use the existing wire that is already in the bay that was used for the speed sensor on the auto tranny.
run1206
02-15-2010, 02:41 PM
few more pics :)
(Thanks for selling me the speed sensor Cali :D )
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/run1206/car%20photos/speed_sensor.jpg
wires (black_blue, black, and black_yellow)
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/run1206/car%20photos/wires.jpg
the same diagram from Figure 3. (Black_Yellow is for pin 3, Black_Blue is for pin 4, & ground is pin 2)
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/run1206/car%20photos/Speed_Sensor_and_wiring_diagram.jpg
WhiteGalant
03-07-2010, 12:40 PM
Alrighty, on the 03 transmission there are 2 sensors on the auto transmission. The output shaft speed sensor, and the input shaft speed sensor. So between the two I would assume that the wires needed that run to c-17 would be there.
Galantman03
03-11-2010, 08:06 PM
i gotta quick question..... what if you put a 99-01 guage cluster in a 02-03 model, would you still need to run the extra wires? or would the speedometer work like nothing was there....
g-ride
03-21-2010, 08:51 AM
isnt it possible to run wires from the black inhibitor plug to the manual trannys speed sensor? the same plug used to start the car?
WhiteGalant
04-06-2010, 03:51 AM
Well I tried this out with no luck today. I took some pics of what I connected to, maybe I was just hooking up to the wrong stuff. Ill post the pics tomorrow.
whokilledhoughes
05-09-2010, 10:37 PM
anything new on this?
run1206
05-10-2010, 05:41 AM
there's a big discussion on WhiteGalant's thread "Wired up the speedo and..."
i wired it up to what i thought was pin 3 & 4 but the speedo only works when the gas tank is less than 3/4 full. Odd, i know...
still trying other combinations but that's the only way i can get my speedo to work.
Galantman03
05-10-2010, 10:30 AM
very true but that other thread has been on hold, i think stewi has been busy... lol
CORKDOG
08-01-2010, 11:43 AM
Kind of un-related but... Will the 99-01 guage cluster hook right up to the 02-03 with no modification? Or will there have to be some kind of mod?
Galantman03
08-06-2010, 08:20 PM
lol yes it will fit no problem, plug and play, so to say... if you want to keep your door light when you open your door, you need to swap out the circut board on the back, and also your odometer, or you will have like me, i open my door, and my gas light comes on lol
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