ITS HERE!!!

[boostzealot]

i couldnt standby and let the eclipse guys have all the fun with the 74 so i bought one and finally got here after an agonizing two days :lol: (came from vegas to utah) but it only had 51k on the motor and came with a six month warrantee as well. i stripped it down and inspected every inch of this thing sans the rotating assembly. here are a few pics. hopefully i can have this done by the end of the week and get numbers up because after the tranny swap the car became something vicious, well i would love to see it with this 3.5 under the hood strapped to the manual tranny. this thing is like new, the hash marks are still in the cylinders and the tops of the pistons are coated with carbon which means this thing was driven by some old dude who needed a big car. :lol:
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k232/boostzealot/new%20beginnings/S8001313.jpg
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[SkylineG1]

Glad that you are setting the G up. Couldn't see the pics though I got all red X

[mattalicslvr8g02]

Pics dont work

[S-Line]

damn nice man. Pics dont work though. This is a swap i'm looking forward to doing in the summer.

[thebirdman13]

so it finally came huh?

[rez887]

pics dont work

[Alexey]

http://fcis.oise.utoronto.ca/~rchilds/ROLEPLAY/red_x_mark.jpg

[boostzealot]

pics should be up now. im putting it back together tonight and may be dropping her in.

[S-Line]

looks sweet man. I want to know how much more your getting exactly out of 74. I'm not joking im even more turned on to getting the engine now. But will be set when I see some numbers of this in the G.

[seth98esT]

Why not go with the DOHC 6g74 out of the SL?

[J53113]

i spy a big ol' fmic.... maybe just maybe?

[boostzealot]

Why not go with the DOHC 6g74 out of the SL?
you know, i thought about that but remember they run dsi so i would have to get some major tuning done to run with those heads. you know that mitsu made a 74 with dohc heads but they are still dsi. plus im so amped about having this motor in that i just want to get it running with the vr4 360cc injectors and 255 walboro. i have an emanage with a boomslang harness to tune with so we'll see.

[boostzealot]

i spy a big ol' fmic.... maybe just maybe?
you bet your ass im boostin this thing. im gonna get numbers for now with it being NA but hopefully she will be boosted by the spring. that front mount is 31x12x3 yeah its huge

[4g63lover]

oh shit I just said something about this swap on GF. lol.

Amazing dude. I can't wait til you drop this in. Show us some vids when you drop her in there. Its going to be amazing. Its going to be a beast.

[fatal1]

thast sweet bro cant wait to see it installed good luck with everything

[boostzealot]

ok quick update. just got done cleaning up the motor a lil bit. everything looks so good that you could eat off the piston tops! next up are the heads then on to the motor install. i should have this pulled off before the end of the week. dyno numbers will come a day after the install. thanks all for being so supportive. i would have had more done but this weekend was my girlfriend's birthday sooooo.... :roll:
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k232/boostzealot/new%20beginnings/S8001381.jpg
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here are the heads.
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k232/boostzealot/new%20beginnings/S8001397.jpg
got some things to take care of in the morning but after that its game on!

[Stewi]

i spy a big ol' fmic.... maybe just maybe?
you bet your ass im boostin this thing. im gonna get numbers for now with it being NA but hopefully she will be boosted by the spring. that front mount is 31x12x3 yeah its huge

I'd love to see that FMIC fit into your car. I like your swap and hope it makes good power, but that FMIC, without getting rid of alot of stuff, including the A/C condenser and the crash bar, its not gonna fit too well. I had a hard time getting mine to fit which is 28x8x3 and I had to cut a big chunk out of the crash bar and get rid of the A/C. I think it might fit if you ran a Cyber 1 front bumper because they seem to get alot of clearance.

[VegasMatt]

Where in Vegas did you get this from?

[boostzealot]

got the motor from All Foreign Auto Parts 1-800-797-4607 they have another one that has 64K and is also $500. check them out and talk to brian as he was the one who sold me the motor. they are pretty cool up there.

[WarmAndSCSI]

We'll see how fast it is now! Maybe you can keep up with me for a few more feet :twisted:

Give me a call when you're putting everything back together, I'll help you drop it in.

[VegasMatt]

Holy shit, i just spent three hours reading the post on club3g about the swap. Looks promising, cant wait to see your NA numbers. Looked like Dragon was having problems with his setup, I hope yours is smoother.

[J53113]

what did you clean the motor w/?

[boostzealot]

i cleaned the motor with polishing bits on a high speed dremel. took a lil while but i got the pistons done in one night. i start the heads here in a few hours so it will all be back together tonight no matter what. oh check this out i was digging through some videos and found my dyno vid for the 6g72 where i put a measly 168 to the wheels. im not too but hurt about the numbers as a 400hp 06 GTO only put down 280. so i know it reads a little low. but check this out
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q218/JaredSenn1983/DYNO%20DAY/th_P1000037.jpg (http://s137.photobucket.com/albums/q218/JaredSenn1983/DYNO%20DAY/?action=view&current=P1000037.flv)
i cant wait to hear what the 74 sounds like at full throttle

[milo111000]

got damn!!!! you lucky bitch.. not you don't have to bitch about lack of power.. congratulations man!!

[boostzealot]

awwww shit :twisted: the motor went in with no problems at all. this thing fit in the engine bay like it belonged there. big shout outs to tim for letting me use his garage and helping me with whatever i needed. it wont be playtime until later this week when the downpipe is rewelded to fit this gargantuan. even though i couldnt truly get on it, it felt worlds beyond faster with much more low end. i had to drive almost 40 miles back to my house after the install while never going over 3500 rpm and oh what a tease that was. more pics and vids once the downpipe situation is taken care of.
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k232/boostzealot/new%20beginnings/S8001437.jpg
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[IceDouTGaLanT]

very nice bro...i didnt kno u were a 5-speed

[boostzealot]

hell yeah and to tell you the truth thats really what started this whole thing. no one with a galant has gone manual with the 74 so i thought would give it a try :wink: turns out that this thing is going to kick ass.

[milo111000]

wait you originaly had a v6 to begin with right??

[boostzealot]

wait you originaly had a v6 to begin with right??
yeah and with over 109k on the odo it still was rather fast for a virtually stock v6. to put it into perspective, before i did the swap i raced warmandscsi when he was stage 1 and kept up almost too well. so i cant wait to get this thing tuned so that we can compare again. im estimating about 210 to the wheels.

[milo111000]

dang man.. and you got a 74 from a diamante... damn i'm jealous.. why not a VR??

[boostzealot]

well honestly i have based a lot of my knowledge about mitsu's on their v6's. i like the way they sound and the way mitsu put them together. the evo swap would have been a lot of fun to have also but i think that with the right hardware this motor will serve its purpose and hand out some ass whippins :wink:

[milo111000]

well said..if i had some cash i would get a VR jdm.. but heck that would be a lot of work on my I4.. might as well save up for and evo or head swap.. but congrats again.. next post some #s (dyno)

[boostzealot]

will do. remember their is an alternative to the evo head swap if you cant find one for a reasonable price. i read a while back that kia uses a head that is very similar to the evo head but of course the cam profiles are much different. i think its in the spectra. im not sure but i would definately do some research because that would be a marvelous improvement over the stock head for the 4g64. you would even be able to use evo exhaust manifolds and run a small conservative amount of boost with a light tune and get great results. but always always do your research.

[milo111000]

yup i've read the same thing too.. kia optima 2001-2005.. talk about kia head would bring lower comp compared to the evo head.. making it very promising for boost.. the only thing is there is still no turbo kit for such engine.. but i also read at the evo forums that they experimenting with our 64 blocks... hmmm. pretty good huh.. but spectra.. don't know bout that yet.. will do look for info.. thanks man..

[boostzealot]

no you're right thats what i couldnt remember. there is no turbo kit for the optima but like i was saying you could use the stock evo manifold or get an aftermarket one that fits the evo head. people have been boosting the 4g64 for years now unbuilt and have had promising results. just dont go overboard with the boost.... unless you build it.

[milo111000]

nah man.. still waitin for a succesful kia head swap.. with the kia head you can get a bigger combustion chamber.. but no one has really came up with it yet... not that i know of..

[GOOSEY2099]

Very Nice Work!! Congrads man. Looks like a very fun thing to drive now. I hope you used a good flywheel and clutch.

[boostzealot]

Very Nice Work!! Congrads man. Looks like a very fun thing to drive now. I hope you used a good flywheel and clutch.
yeah the flywheel and clutch combo didnt change just yet as it does just fine for now. the only thing is is that it has not been very pleasant here with the weather so i cant even get on it all the way and plus i need to tune it out a little. i got my boomslang harness for the emanage and finished wiring up the rest of the harnesses myself to save a little cash. so hopefully if all goes well then saturday will be the day for dyno pulls and more pics.
here it is before the injector and ignition harnesses
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k232/boostzealot/new%20beginnings/S8001498.jpg
here is my work
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i used the red heatshrink so that it would standout and so it wolud be easier to identify my work.

[DryBear]

Nice work!

Wish the Boomslang harness was around when I did my eManage install :(

[boostzealot]

HOLY SHIT drybear where you been? did you ever get the tranny swap done and working? i would love to see what you would be putting down with everything working together. hey i need a favor since you did your emanage, is pin 42 the injector ground or do you know? i have to make one more splice for it but the diagrams are a little sketchy so im just trying to verify. thanks man and good to hear from you

[milo111000]

damn those wires make me dizzy..

[Jet Black]

Fucking beautiful :shock:

I wasn't even aware you actually installed it and everything. Man that is impressive. So do you have any plans for some FI?

[boostzealot]

hell yeah. what i plan to do though is to save up enough money to have the 3.5 machined .020 for a set of forged cp's and will have the rest of the rotating assembly cryotreated and arp studded. the heads will get a major flow job done and to top it all off i will use the xg350 intake manifold as a template for my sheetmetal intake which will recieve a Q45's throttle body (90mm). i still havent decided on whether i am going to make tubular manifolds or go with more of a log setup. the log would be stronger but the tubular will be gorgeous and will flow better. man this 3.5 is either really that fast or i am suffering from the biggest pleceibo effect i have ever felt :lol: numbers will come in two days. promised.

[boostzealot]

damn those wires make me dizzy..
lol i guess being an electrician on F-16's for the last six years has gotten me used to seeing shit like that. its funny because i saw the harness and was like oh thats it? there are worse things on the 16 by far.

[boostzealot]

oh lookie lookie what i just got. the ups guys knows my nickname because he sees me some much. lol. looks like another busy weekend. :wink:
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k232/boostzealot/new%20beginnings/S8001515.jpg
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[milo111000]

damn boy... you bagged alot o cash on this project.. happy for yah bro..

[boostzealot]

yeah i know. tell me about it, my pockets are starting to steam a little. but ramon noodles are so good anyway that being broke for the rest of the month is alright :lol:

[milo111000]

hehehehe i've been on the cup o noodle diet too!!!!!

[S-Line]

damn springs 2! Your ride is going to look good and perform well also!

[9G]

nice man!

[Jet Black]

Dear mother of god that is fucking awesome! I had no idea you were a fabricator as well! As it stands I'm at a total loss for words. You've just encompessed my distant dream...

Especially the part about redoing both manifolds . My biggest qualm about all the V6 turbo kits out there is the fact that a) the collector pipe design is absolute trash, b) and the compressor side of things is no better.

Let me explain my vision and see what you think.

Collector Pipes
As I mentioned above, the current design that is being used for these pipes is for the most part inefficient. The rear bank's collector is about 4-5 times larger than the front banks. Without a doubt this introduces all types of inefficiencies into the overall system (ranging from pumping losses, to poor airflow dynamics). In my opinion the a much better setup is this one (http://www.3si.org/forum/showthread.php?t=313698&page=4&pp=20&highlight=single+turbo+manifolds+weld) (scroll down). Idealy it would be great if you could have all six individual runners collect immediately before the turbine inlet. Either way the first step in refining this design would be to allow for equal length collectors on both banks. Similiar to the 3000GT setup, the turbo would be mounted above the transmission. This way you wouldn't be applying unequal loads to the banks. Just to reiterate, individual runners would be fucking SWEET!

Intake Manifold
Yet another design flaw. Due to the orientation of our plenums, and the location of the turbo, the incoming air is forced to do U-turn to reach the throttle body. Instead if you reversed the orientation of the plenum (with the TB facing the belts) you would be able to run a much simpler and shorter setup (i.e. a "loop" setup). For the plenum construction itself, I would consider doing some research into it (if you havn't already). With a little math, you could have a killer intake setup that greatly compliments your overall system. A google search for Intake Manifold Design will yield a rediclous amount of information on the subject. And btw good call on the 90mm TB.

Anyways I've spent WAY to long on this post. Its about time I wrap it up. I'll leave you with a link for the materials required: Racing Solutions (http://store.racing-solutions.org/bendkits.html). Not only do they sell mandrel bent tubing kits at a great price, but they also carry exhaust manifold flanges for the V6.

Good luck dude, and definetly keep us updated.

[boostzealot]

man its so funny that you found racing solutions. i thought that shit was a little secret when i found it and the best kept kind because they have really good deals on the prebent sections and bundles. i was going to go high class and get all my steel from burns stainless but then i saw the cost and it really turned me off to it all. i was really lucky to find racing solutions.

now as far as the manifolds go, the stock manifolds have been known to handle the supposed 1200 cfm each that a boosted 72 would make but then again they most likely raise the egt's too high for some reliable power in the long run. so definately bring yourself to get or make manifolds whether they are going to go down like the tearstone kit or go over like the single turbo vr4's do. i really favor the setup that has been done for years by the vr4 guys. there is less hot side piping which would allow for quicker spool up and give you the opportunity to fab up some nice looking heat sheilds or show off some coating you may throw on the pipes. one thing is for sure though is that if you do go tubular then you must find a way to brace them so that they dont have the entire load of not only the turbo but the exhaust as well. check out gto nemesis' vr4 on google or 3si.org and see how he did his piping for the manifolds and i think you wiil love his design.

on to the intake mani. the stock mani you must get rid of. point blank. it does nothing for the gathering, separating, and production of nonturbulent air for the runners for this motor. the diamante mani is very well suited for making power in an NA application or even better for FI provided it has a much better design and proves to be much more efficient. i have been researching the whole reason to make an intake manifold and here is what i have concluded. if you have the availibility for more air then what better way to do it than with an intake manifold that can flow much more than stock. but remember the bottle neck to every manifold design is the throttle body. if you have this gigantic mani and the stock tb, then it will take you longer to fill the surge tank which would result in poor driveability and drop the efficiency of the mani. but whenever you make a mani be sure to have it flowbenched as you do not want to have uneven flow between the cylinders. ok ok ill stop with my 101 on intakes but im just adament about knowing whats going on with making power and the key is research.

[boostzealot]

i want to do something like this but without the elbow. it will have the q45 tb on it and i bet you i could make about 20whp tuned with it. this is my next project
http://www.350z-tech.com/w/images/thumb/8/89/Kinetix_SSV_Manifold_Install_006.jpg/250px-Kinetix_SSV_Manifold_Install_006.jpg (http://www.350z-tech.com/zwiki/Image:Kinetix_SSV_Manifold_Install_006.jpg)

[Jet Black]

Ya dude Racing Solutions is unbelievable. I havn't found a single site out there that can compete with their prices...on the other end of the spectrum is Burns. Since I'm not a cocaine distrubitor I didn't even consider sourcing from them. Though I do enjoy browsing their catalogue (window shopping). :lol:

***Before you start reading this, please understand at times I maybe a little redundant, but its only because I was spilling out my thoughts. In others words I wasn't trying to talk down to you.***

But ya I'm most definetly going to be following the steps of the VR4 guys for my next setup. Besides looking dead sexy, I figure the airflow dynamics of their setup is considerably more effecient than the xTech/Tearstone pipes that we use. Personally I believe that part of the reason (amongst others) that these motors don't handle much boost in the double digits range lies with the overall manifold design. A manifold with individual runners (up to the turbine inlet) could potentially allow for higher boost levels on the stock motor. My prediction is that by isolating every cylinder's exhaust stream, you significantly decrease exhaust back pressure at a very crucial point, i.e. the cylinder head. I believe the back pressure creates multiple sources of ineffeciency such as parasitic pumping losses (some of the piston's energy is expended in order to overcome the back pressure), to increased EGTs (Gas Laws). The back pressure is caused by the sudden drop in exhaust gas velocity due to interaction with the turbine blades. This is one of the fundemental operating principles of a turbocharger; a "trail" of back pressure exists before the inlet in order get the turbine rotating. With the current collector pipes being designed as they are, I believe the "pressure trail" streches to close to the front bank due to the short length of piping between the turbine inlet and the cylinder head. This could be yet another reason why the front bank is more prone to catastrophe, as it naturally experiences a considerable amount of the back pressure.

With the individual-runner/VR4 setup, the back pressure is moved considerably further away from the cylinder head, the individual exhaust streams no longer interfere with one and another, and it evens out the pressure distribution. I see it as somewhat analogous to the whole NA header system. I believe they use some of the same fundemental principles as I mentioned. The runners/extractors basically allow each cylinder to function with much greater effeciency than normal. Anyways to simplify my thoughts, the ideal manifold (IMO) is one with seperate runners up to the inlet flange. While I would prefer equal length runners, it's really not a big concern to me, so much as the individual runners.

Now bracing more than likely will be required. I imagine some sort of system of brackets welded between the individual runners would help...brace....the manifolds. Idealy in the end, the manifold/turbo setup would be braced to the engine itself as to allow it to move with it (e.g. sudden changes in throttle position).

As for the intake manifold, I think we both despise the stock one equally. Even in its NA forms its trash, let alone FI. I will always wonder why Mitsubishi decided to de-evolve this paticular design from the original. The Diamante manifold looks great, and without a doubt is leaps ahead of our stock one. Though from the minimal reading I've done so far regarding manifold design, I wonder if it's really all that well suited for our application. Considering that low end torque isn't an issue for either of us (much less you), I think in general a "large" turbo would be best suited for us, i.e. something that could move a considerable amount of air at the higher RPMs. With that being the case, a plenum design that would compliment this would be something with a) surge tank with a volume equal to overall displacement, b) short runners, and c) greater cross sectional area for each runner. The Diamante plenum is the exact opposite of this. It has long skinny runners with a relatively tiny surge tank. It works great in its paticular application because the whole system was built for low end torque in the NA form. In that sense I think the whole design could be refined to better suit our applications. Also for sure a large throttle body is a must. I didn't even think about that till you brought it up last night. I'm really intrested to see how you are going to go about making it work. I can't even imagine where to start in that regards. From the TPS, to the intricate vacuum passages that remind me of the tunnels in the Great Pyramids. In other words, I may have to steel your TB setup. :lol: Anyways yet again I've spent way too much time rambling on. I'm going to stop right here for the day since I've basicly neglected my school work. I look foward to your comments.




man its so funny that you found racing solutions. i thought that shit was a little secret when i found it and the best kept kind because they have really good deals on the prebent sections and bundles. i was going to go high class and get all my steel from burns stainless but then i saw the cost and it really turned me off to it all. i was really lucky to find racing solutions.

now as far as the manifolds go, the stock manifolds have been known to handle the supposed 1200 cfm each that a boosted 72 would make but then again they most likely raise the egt's too high for some reliable power in the long run. so definately bring yourself to get or make manifolds whether they are going to go down like the tearstone kit or go over like the single turbo vr4's do. i really favor the setup that has been done for years by the vr4 guys. there is less hot side piping which would allow for quicker spool up and give you the opportunity to fab up some nice looking heat sheilds or show off some coating you may throw on the pipes. one thing is for sure though is that if you do go tubular then you must find a way to brace them so that they dont have the entire load of not only the turbo but the exhaust as well. check out gto nemesis' vr4 on google or 3si.org and see how he did his piping for the manifolds and i think you wiil love his design.

on to the intake mani. the stock mani you must get rid of. point blank. it does nothing for the gathering, separating, and production of nonturbulent air for the runners for this motor. the diamante mani is very well suited for making power in an NA application or even better for FI provided it has a much better design and proves to be much more efficient. i have been researching the whole reason to make an intake manifold and here is what i have concluded. if you have the availibility for more air then what better way to do it than with an intake manifold that can flow much more than stock. but remember the bottle neck to every manifold design is the throttle body. if you have this gigantic mani and the stock tb, then it will take you longer to fill the surge tank which would result in poor driveability and drop the efficiency of the mani. but whenever you make a mani be sure to have it flowbenched as you do not want to have uneven flow between the cylinders. ok ok ill stop with my 101 on intakes but im just adament about knowing whats going on with making power and the key is research.

[Jet Black]

i want to do something like this but without the elbow. it will have the q45 tb on it and i bet you i could make about 20whp tuned with it. this is my next project
http://www.350z-tech.com/w/images/thumb/8/89/Kinetix_SSV_Manifold_Install_006.jpg/250px-Kinetix_SSV_Manifold_Install_006.jpg (http://www.350z-tech.com/zwiki/Image:Kinetix_SSV_Manifold_Install_006.jpg)

That is what I'm fucking talking about! That is exactly what I'm talking about. But as you pointed out, no need for the elbow (kinda strange really), and a mother-of-all throttle bodys on the other end of it.

Either way, anything I fab up will be half as shiny, and use some cheap ass mild 304 steel. No need for this fancy 321 or anything like that. Shit if the xTech kits got away using fence post (aluminumized 304 ~ probably with terrible metal composition, considering their originally intended use), then a simple plenum can use damn near anything. :D

[boostzealot]

well just from a general assestment you seem to know exactly what you are talking about. very good on you for doing the much needed research it takes to dig into the facets of this car with one's creativity and make it perform. it seems to make any kind of real hp out of this design (without getting into re-engineering) you have to get creative. i like your approach also. the vr4 guys have an infinate amount of knowledge when it comes to the 6g series motors and its sisters. this platform has so much potential that people overlook that it becomes overlooked in being modded. and with money well spent one can have a car that can be considered a triple threat.

[boostzealot]

ok people as promised. i just got off the rollers and put down some really good numbers for this 5000ft altitude and no tune. final numbers were 186.6whp and 198.0wtrq! peak torque was 218.1! like i said this is at a crazy ass utah mountain altitude and no tune. the no tune part is signifcant in the fact that i kept the diamante 270cc injectors in. so the ecu doesnt recognize this since there has been no injector scaling done and runs them like they were the 210's it came with. my afr is rich, very rich so rich that my afr's got down to 10.61. for a NA car that is only good when you have a lot of compression and a lot of air digestion. so in conclusion i would have to say since the car only weighs 3040lbs and has a very minimal drivetrain loss... its a damn quick galant!
here is what i was making before
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k232/boostzealot/new%20beginnings/S8001540.jpg
here is what i put down today
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k232/boostzealot/new%20beginnings/S8001541.jpg
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like i said not only does this dyno read low (read a 400hp gto at 280whp) but the altitude was also a factor.

[DryBear]

HOLY SHIT drybear where you been? did you ever get the tranny swap done and working? i would love to see what you would be putting down with everything working together. hey i need a favor since you did your emanage, is pin 42 the injector ground or do you know? i have to make one more splice for it but the diagrams are a little sketchy so im just trying to verify. thanks man and good to hear from you

Unfortunately, my tranny got chipped, and I'm looking for someone who can weld it for me:
https://thegalantcenter.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=54464

I don't remember what the pins were on the eManage as it was a while ago when I wired it up, but I used these as reference:
http://mitsuoafl.com/board/showthread.php?t=5058
http://www.club3g.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47869

[Jet Black]

That is pretty impressive considering all the factors you mentioned. BTW How did you drop your curb weight by so much?

[9G]

That is pretty impressive considering all the factors you mentioned. BTW How did you drop your curb weight by so much?

Removed the driver.


:lol:

j/k. haha

[boostzealot]

as you should already know our car is much lighter than percieved. i only assumed what it weighed before i went and got it done but i also weighed it after the tranny swap and if you have ever felt the auto tranny with fluid in it while the torque converter is full then you know you are dealing with an excessive amount of well... shit. that thing weighs over 150lbs! and yeah i was out of the car but that what curb weight is.... sans driver. :wink: so yeah its light and torquey and pisses evo's, 350z's, and modded 3.5 se 5spd altima's off daily! i got some kills to post 8)

[DOHCstunr]

i love the sound of thhe 6g74
you can really hear the stroke

I put an intake on my father's diamante a while back and it just sounds soo sexy.
Those motors have a lot of pull too, even in the behemouth diamante. the gearing on the diamante sucks though.
bet on a 5 speed galant they woudl be a ton of fun.
congrats on the swap.

time to start making some real numbers.

[milo111000]

wow!!! nice to know you're satisfied with the outcome.. btw which tranny were you using again??

[boostzealot]

wow!!! nice to know you're satisfied with the outcome.. btw which tranny were you using again??

i got lucky and found a tranny out of a grandma driven strat r/t with only 4k on it.

[j.math99V6]

What year stratus? I haven't been on the forum for a while. I didn't realize they would fit in our G's.

[boostzealot]

What year stratus? I haven't been on the forum for a while. I didn't realize they would fit in our G's.
it was an 02 stratus r/t. its the same hardware as the eclipse's so naturally everything works just fine.

[Alexey]

Damn I'm jealous! :evil:
Happy for ya, man! :lol:

[boostzealot]

hey check these out. i plan on putting these on after my magnecore's come in. but the 74 has been very good to me so i thought i might dress her up a little.
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k232/boostzealot/new%20beginnings/S8001578.jpg
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k232/boostzealot/new%20beginnings/S8001580.jpg

[boostzealot]

finally found the time to make a sound clip of a fly by. its not the greatest but there will be more later. this is with no cat, a 2.5'' HKS exhaust, and an intake. sounds like a NA rb25!
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k232/boostzealot/new%20beginnings/th_S8001611.jpg (http://s89.photobucket.com/albums/k232/boostzealot/new%20beginnings/?action=view&current=S8001611.flv)

[S-Line]

wow that was a pretty sick ass flyby. Sounds like you are putting some power down w/ the 3.5.....I'm happy you like the swap!

HIDS look good 2....

[boostzealot]

thanks man. like i said i plan on making more time for taping more flybys, dyno runs, street fights and more before the week is up. i just cant get over how different it sounds from the 72 though. while we were taping it sounded like a 350Z coming at first then it passes and all you hear is the angry 74 :twisted:

[WarmAndSCSI]

Sounds great! My car should be done in about a week!

[VegasMatt]

Damn, I better go snag that other motor from where you got yours.

[milo111000]

sounded like a monster.. good job man!!!! ride in the dark huh.. cool..

[Mante]

wow, Im very impressed.. exhaust note is absolutely sick..

[SLS2000]

seriously interesting.

Thank you! :smt038

And please continue. :smt045

[laxinwarrior]

That has a great sound to it, awesome job with the swap and keep up the hard work.

[Jet Black]

That sounds fucking unbelievable.

[boostzealot]

alright, so i threw on the valve covers and magnacore wires and went for a little drive. it seems that my car attracts more attention everytime i accelerate. :lol: a modded BMW 325i with a CF short ram, stage 2 clutch, and remus exhaust rolled up and i guess he wanted a piece. we were going about 40 and he proceeds to downshift into second and start rollin on me while im in third. he gets about half a car then i just fly by him. this of course intices him to want more info on the car and why i just pulled on his m3 lookalike. we talk for a bit and i convince him to race me on the highway from a second gear roll. her is the video. the first race is my friend in a built turbo D16 civic pushing 10lbs.
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k232/boostzealot/new%20beginnings/th_S8001628-2.jpg (http://s89.photobucket.com/albums/k232/boostzealot/new%20beginnings/?action=view&current=S8001628-2.flv)

the next race was also a second gear pull against a modded RSX type S with a race header, 5 zigen cat back, CAI, and tune. he didnt do too well either :lol:
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k232/boostzealot/new%20beginnings/th_S8001629.jpg (http://s89.photobucket.com/albums/k232/boostzealot/new%20beginnings/?action=view&current=S8001629.flv)

but here are the pics of the valve covers on with the magnacores
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k232/boostzealot/new%20beginnings/S8001623.jpg
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k232/boostzealot/new%20beginnings/S8001622.jpg
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k232/boostzealot/new%20beginnings/S8001633.jpg
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k232/boostzealot/new%20beginnings/S8001632.jpg
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k232/boostzealot/new%20beginnings/S8001631.jpg
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k232/boostzealot/new%20beginnings/S8001630.jpg

[WarmAndSCSI]

Nice kills... engine bay is almost there. Glad to see that you've got a proper intake now :lol:

[lonestar22]

i want your setup

[boostzealot]

Nice kills... engine bay is almost there. Glad to see that you've got a proper intake now :lol:

lol. yeah i had to get rid of ol faithful. all i have to do now is get that sheetmetal intake made and have it polished. i cant wait to see this thing wake up after the cams, head job, headers, q45 tb w/ sheetmetal intake, and a tune. that should be good for another 65whp at least! :twisted: being N/A is so fun because i dont have to tell anyone that i have a motor swap :wink:

[VegasMatt]

I miss riding in your Galant. I need a heart transplant too. I need to find that GT tranny first tho.

[boostzealot]

I miss riding in your Galant. I need a heart transplant too. I need to find that GT tranny first tho.

i know and its only getting faster. check your pms on those headers. anyway, you know me and tim are ready to do the swap whenever you need it done. holla at me man.

[VegasMatt]

I need to call that place where you got your motor so I can pick it up. Then I need to find the GT Tranny. I will put everything in the car and ship it up to you and Tim.

[boostzealot]

are you planning to fly up after the car is done so we can take our time and get it to you as pretty as when it was delivered? the salt lake area is pretty and there are plenty of places to let her stretch her legs after its all done, believe me tim and i both know :wink:

[DNSerrano]

Hey Tim I forgot to ask you over cardomain, but what size wheel and tires are you running in that setup, looks like 17's. I might go that route. Great 6g74 swap though, once you get it to perfection and tune, take it to a dyno and record the outcome :twisted: :twisted: Awesome work

[rhema83]

Congrats! 8) Your G could be the ultimate sleeper, ya know. Creeping up to cocky Beemers and Altimas and handing them their asses. :twisted:

[VegasMatt]

are you planning to fly up after the car is done so we can take our time and get it to you as pretty as when it was delivered? the salt lake area is pretty and there are plenty of places to let her stretch her legs after its all done, believe me tim and i both know :wink:

I will probably trailer it back, but you guys can have it for as long as you need to test drive and make tweeks.

[DNSerrano]

are you planning to fly up after the car is done so we can take our time and get it to you as pretty as when it was delivered? the salt lake area is pretty and there are plenty of places to let her stretch her legs after its all done, believe me tim and i both know :wink:

I will probably trailer it back, but you guys can have it for as long as you need to test drive and make tweeks.

Hey you still have your old front bumper?

[glantv699]

what a beast...I can only sit here and admire

keep them kills comin, great work

[VegasMatt]

are you planning to fly up after the car is done so we can take our time and get it to you as pretty as when it was delivered? the salt lake area is pretty and there are plenty of places to let her stretch her legs after its all done, believe me tim and i both know :wink:

I will probably trailer it back, but you guys can have it for as long as you need to test drive and make tweeks.

Hey you still have your old front bumper?

Who me? Yes I do its sitting in my warehouse collecting dust.

[boostzealot]

are you planning to fly up after the car is done so we can take our time and get it to you as pretty as when it was delivered? the salt lake area is pretty and there are plenty of places to let her stretch her legs after its all done, believe me tim and i both know :wink:

I will probably trailer it back, but you guys can have it for as long as you need to test drive and make tweeks.

hey thats cool because we are gonna need time to scan everything and make sure that you have no codes that will impede performance. the only codes i have are the egr and the catalyst ineffiency. but then again thats what i get for not having any cats or an egr system.

[boostzealot]

Hey Tim I forgot to ask you over cardomain, but what size wheel and tires are you running in that setup, looks like 17's. I might go that route. Great 6g74 swap though, once you get it to perfection and tune, take it to a dyno and record the outcome :twisted: :twisted: Awesome work

tim's my tuning associate but i am running 17's but they look small because of the tire i chose (205/40/17) just for road racing and weight savings. anyway. my new rim and tire setup is the rota boost in 17x8 with the hankook z212's in 225/45/17. oh and my dyno numbers right now are sitting uncorrected at 192.5whp and 215wtq. corrected, factoring the 5000ft altitude, 101 degree weather, and it being tuned safely rich brings it to about 230whp and 245wtq. so yeah this was a very good idea

[DNSerrano]

I apologize for the mix up Boost, lol. Great numbers, really great pretty soon 230whp nice. Also Matt, I'm talking about the one that looks like Skillz911 just making sure. I'll pm you though

[boostzealot]

hey look what i found. lol this is my pre-swap dyno with the five speed. it made 157whp. here is the thing just the swap alone gained me 30whp and 50wtq over what i was making. enjoy. ill get the video of its current state soon.
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q218/JaredSenn1983/DYNO%20DAY/th_P1000037.jpg (http://s137.photobucket.com/albums/q218/JaredSenn1983/DYNO%20DAY/?action=view&current=P1000037.flv)

[4g63lover]

how I wish my car pulled like that. one day, it will...

impressive dude, your car is just a fuckin beast. no bullshit, all business!

I like my I4. but if I had a V6 i'd look into this swap myself.

[leicoolya]

I do like the way the car sounds :D But i think that civic beat you, seems like he let off after he had passed you?? either way good vids

[VegasMatt]

Ive personally ridden in Boostzealots G and yes, it is a beast.

BJ, I hope you got those new tires before your front wheels go out. :)

[kolio]

matt how much faster was yours when you had the SDS system?


but the car is mean :twisted: good work man.

[boostzealot]

thanks guys for all the compliments but remember this thing has just started. i ran it at RMR (rocky mountain raceway) at a midnight drag event and posted a morale crushing 15.7 @87mph. this track is such a ego destroyer because mildly modded evos were running 15.2's and shit. so if i am right this is a 13sec car at sea level! i had to launch at 2k and still lit up the tires, i let out and got it to grip but not before rolling through the 60ft at a lackluster 2.6. this track also blows because they dont prep it even in the slightest for these events. they (the events) are basically to take our (the imports) money and keep us off the streets. anyway RMR is some bullshit and everyone knows it too.

hey matt, i did my pads and rotated the wheels but i know whats going to happen to those in a few weeks. i really hope Les Schwab gets my rims in at least by the end of next week. its getting much too close to mod for me to correct any mistakes like if the wheels are the wrong offset.

leicoolya, yeah my buddy's civic is actually fast and damn near stripped to the paint. he didnt let off at the end he just hit his governer :lol: but anyway i have something for his ass here in a couple of weeks :wink: like i said i will make 300 whp N/A

[leicoolya]

damn i had no idea that any car hit its governer at 100?? and a civic for that matter :roll: either way great job on the swap

[WarmAndSCSI]

matt how much faster was yours when you had the SDS system?


but the car is mean :twisted: good work man.

I'm not VegasMatt, but I can give you some idea as to how fast BJ's 74 swap is. I'd say it's as fast as my car was stage 1 SDS. Stage 3, however, has me running low 14's at this shitty track of ours, which is expected because of the 110 HP difference. His manual would put him way ahead if we had equal crank HP levels.

BJ, do you mean 300 WHP uncorrected? Because that would extremely impressive. I estimate about 250-260 WHP on that dyno of yours if you're doing a full N/A build (that would be with ported/polished heads, fairly aggressive cams, headers, and high compression pistons and would be a 70 WHP gain). But I guess that would put you at 300 WHP @ sea level.

edit: and by the way, you've got to get a video of my car on the dyno @ MOD if they are indeed doing a dyno shootout or whatever. I want to see everybody covering their ears :lol:

[WarmAndSCSI]

Just another comment on your swap, so everybody realizes how much power is able to be made out of the 6G74. This engine is rated at 205 crank HP in the Diamante. BJ is making 191 WHP at this altitude in the heat, which is over 230 WHP at sea level. I'd venture to say the Diamante, being an automatic, dynos at about 170 WHP stock since it has about 10 crank HP on our automatic Galants (which dyno around 160 WHP stock). He's already got an estimated 60 WHP on a stock Diamante! :lol:

Good work man! 8)

[Kalamidad]

I HAdn't seen this thread. it was fun reading your progress. congrats man. kinda makes me want to have a v6 so i could do the swap. doing it from an i4 would require a lot more changes. congrats.

[SkylineG1]

I HAdn't seen this thread. it was fun reading your progress. congrats man. kinda makes me want to have a v6 so i could do the swap. doing it from an i4 would require a lot more changes. congrats.

Exactly but it'll prolly be a bit cheaper than turboing an I4.

[boostzealot]

Exactly but it'll prolly be a bit cheaper than turboing an I4.

man you are completely right because i still have not spent over 5k yet and thats in its current state (including the stuff sitting in my garage waiting to go on). these cars have a lot of untapped potential and if you put your money into this platform wisely it always shows its worth. mine just tends to piss off stock evos and 350Z's so i must say its well worth it and i would do it all again.

[Kalamidad]

Exactly but it'll prolly be a bit cheaper than turboing an I4.

man you are completely right because i still have not spent over 5k yet and thats in its current state (including the stuff sitting in my garage waiting to go on). these cars have a lot of untapped potential and if you put your money into this platform wisely it always shows its worth. mine just tends to piss off stock evos and 350Z's so i must say its well worth it and i would do it all again.

pissing those guys off is a nice treat. My car is slow so i can only imagine their faces and how it feels. HAHAHA ROFL!!!

[boostzealot]

i really hope that in the midst of all this i have been helpful enough to anyone that has asked me questions. i would love to see another 6g74 powered galant running shit but for now it is kinda cool being one of the fastest. i just cant wait until its nearly done....then ill boost it!

[boostzealot]

oh hey just a sneek preview of whats next for the NA build. mmmm i cant wait.
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k232/boostzealot/new%20beginnings/S8001911.jpg

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k232/boostzealot/new%20beginnings/S8001912.jpg

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k232/boostzealot/new%20beginnings/S8001913.jpg

yeah thats the stock 52mm on the right, looks kinda silly now. :lol:

[boostzealot]

just put the ingalls stiffy on as well as the st sway bar. i like this car more and more everyday.
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k232/boostzealot/new%20beginnings/S8001915.jpg
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k232/boostzealot/new%20beginnings/S8001916.jpg
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k232/boostzealot/new%20beginnings/S8001923.jpg
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k232/boostzealot/new%20beginnings/S8001925.jpg
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k232/boostzealot/new%20beginnings/S8001926.jpg

and dont say shit about my tires, they were up front before. but on the real they are getting replaced tomorrow with hankook z212's

[VegasMatt]

For the stiffy did you need the part from mitsu that went with the eclipse tower bar? I have the stiffy sitting at home still in the box unopened, I thought I needed the extra part.

[WarmAndSCSI]

For the stiffy did you need the part from mitsu that went with the eclipse tower bar? I have the stiffy sitting at home still in the box unopened, I thought I needed the extra part.

BJ ended up mod'ing those circular braces on his strut towers. He drilled the two holes where the studs would be on the eclipse bracket.

[Phil]

boost...

which diamante engine did you get exactly? I cam across a couple of engines for a good price and wanted to pick one up. Let me know if ya can.

Phil

[boostzealot]

boost...

which diamante engine did you get exactly? I cam across a couple of engines for a good price and wanted to pick one up. Let me know if ya can.

Phil

I ended up with an 01 engine that had only 51k on it. if you are referring to the different trims as far as the vr-x and the standard model, the engines are the same its just the exhaust and tune. if you pick one up let me know and i can be as much assistance as you need.

[Phil]

ok i will let you know. Thanks!!!

[jmath99V6]

I'm thinking about it seriously too. Do you think you could e-mail me a parts list for the swap. I finally have the money so it's eaither a Diamante swap or turbo. :twisted:

[Eclipse97526]

Just kinda curious ? :) What PSI has someone ran upto on a stock aplication with the I4 8g ? i wanna get a turbo. and do a minor head swap. without having to build the botom end, But not mess up my engine. Which turbo would u recomend ? And has anyone actually done a Optima head swap ? How is it ?

[WarmAndSCSI]

Just kinda curious ? :) What PSI has someone ran upto on a stock aplication with the I4 8g ? i wanna get a turbo. and do a minor head swap. without having to build the botom end, But not mess up my engine. Which turbo would u recomend ? And has anyone actually done a Optima head swap ? How is it ?

What the fuck does this have to do with this thread? We're all running V6's here. Swap in a V6, then you can chat with us big boys.

:lol:

Go read up on Club3G for a lot of information concerning boosted 4G64's. I think the stock 4G64 block can handle 10-12 PSI safely.

[remarque]

"Noobs gone Wild", these new guys are just asking questions left and right without even searching. Wrong sections and already answered question, go to club3g, ask the same question and watch yourself get burned.

[6G72Galant]

"Noobs gone Wild", these new guys are just asking questions left and right without even searching. Wrong sections and already answered question, go to club3g, ask the same question and watch yourself get burned.

Try to remember guys, in order for our community to grow, we need to welcome the new members and not flame them for doing "Newb" behaviors. We were all newbs at once. Hell ive asked several dumbass questions when i first joined Galant Forums.

Anyhow...Boosted, is there a noticable difference with that Ingalls stiffener?

[boostzealot]

you guys are funny as hell when it comes to noobs. anyway, 6G, i was reading heavily on the ETD before i purchased it to make sure it would be worth it and there was nothing but positive reviews. so i thought i might be the first to try it on a galant and low and behold it does provide a sense of stiffness that not even my solid motor mounts could provide. the very first and most noticeable thing was the power transfer. in any gear at virtually any engine speed you could tap the throttle and the car would respond with a quick and abrupt jerk. as far as launching i still cant get any traction, but then again this thing is all about torque so i didnt expect much in this department but the annoying diff-breaking wheel hop has seemed to cease. i have mine set at 10 right now which is its highest setting but even on the lowest you could still feel the jerk previously mentioned

[fatal1]

i ordered the stiffy kit as well i should be getting it over the weekend, i too have only heard possitive things about it

[projectGTZ]

As far as the 6g74 swap goes, did you use the 6g72 ecu? I understand the fuel injector problem. Is that corrected with a custom tune or is that what you are using the e-manage for. Also, did you use all of your 3.0 accesories, serpentine belt, alternator, what nots, etc. I know some bolt holes for accesory brackets are not the same. Any problems mounting the flywheel to the crank? Or any other substantial problems you can think of? Your a pretty smart Air Force dude, i think you handle these small ones. Thanks.

[boostzealot]

ok the only issue that i had when swapping the 74 in was making sure everything was out of the way when i was lowering this big bitch into the engine bay. everything swapped over from the 72 except the power steering and AC bracket. i chose to keep the AC but get rid of the power steering so i didnt even bother with the power steering bracket. make certain though that when you get your 74 that it has as much as possible on it as far as parts and assesories other wise you will be buying them separate. now the 72's ecu will work fine and believe it or not even without a tune it runs the 74 better than the diamante ecu. i went and got dynod shortly after swapping the motor and made an immediate power increase of 23whp and 58wtq! like i said thats with no tuning and using the 270cc injectors as opposed to the 210s that come stock so naturally it was running more rich than necessary (10:1 at 6500rpm). i have since used the emanage to fine tune and sort out issues with timing and the like and now am seeing almost 70whp more than stock. of course the manual tranny swap helps with getting the power to the ground :wink:

[underated]

Hey boost how is it turning thai big monster without power steering? how about u-turns? i've gotten rid of my a/c and was thinking about doing the PS too along with the huge ass heater assembly that takes up the whole middle of the dashboard

[AVERAGE]

No power steering? Do we have a rack and pinnion setup on our cars and if so wouldnt you have to replace it after awhile without the power steering?

[JDM4G64T]

With power steering it doesn't affect your handling while maintaining 35+ mph. What really hurts you is when your trying to make a 3-point turn, or a U-turn..... Tried it, didn't like the handling so was left with one option, back in she goes!!

[DNSerrano]

Alexvr might be doing this swap if he sells his mirage

[boostzealot]

tell you what, i bench 360 and do frontal deltoid lifts with 50lbs dumbells so this power steering thing doesnt really fuck with me too bad :wink: . anyway, i like it because it gives you much more feedback on the road and what your suspension is doing while its doing it if you know how to "read" it. i plan on removing everything including the lines for the ps as to save more weight. its all in the name of performance right? :lol:

[projectGTZ]

Read the thread, AGAIN!!! Top 10 thread on TGC for sure!!

[boostzealot]

thanks for the love man. there will be more going into this thread really soon as i have already started buying things for the NA build. lets just say i plan to make 350whp on race gas. :twisted: oh and as you can see i dont bullshit :wink:

[dknight3]

boostzealot in 10 years i will give you 10 grand and you build me a monster k? lol

gotta give me some time to get rich.

[boostzealot]

shit man this has really just been a build in me putting my money in the right place. seriously i have only about 6k in this project so far but then again thats not counting the exterior stuff. this motor build will put me over the 8k mark though but damn its going to be well worth it because this car NA will be blowing turbo heads up! :wink: me and tim can do anything now considering we have done more research on this platform in the last year than some reputable companies have in the last year. instead of making another thread about my build i will just include it in this one. i think it will be pretty fun doing this motor NA because of its potential. already its making really good power and the internals havent been touched yet. just wait, im buying the cams and shit on the first so 350whp here i come!

[underated]

sounds good man i was wondering how things we going with you... we dont here much now that your overseas. stay safe out there and keep keep us updated on the build

if you need any "viewing material" over there (no homo) hit me up i just got a bailysroom.com site rip with 4200 pics

[Ed]

shit man this has really just been a build in me putting my money in the right place. seriously i have only about 6k in this project so far but then again thats not counting the exterior stuff. this motor build will put me over the 8k mark though but damn its going to be well worth it because this car NA will be blowing turbo heads up! :wink: me and tim can do anything now considering we have done more research on this platform in the last year than some reputable companies have in the last year. instead of making another thread about my build i will just include it in this one. i think it will be pretty fun doing this motor NA because of its potential. already its making really good power and the internals havent been touched yet. just wait, im buying the cams and shit on the first so 350whp here i come!

I'll be getting with you next month for some tips when I get my motor and tranny. Gonna be the 1st on the East coast to do a 6G74 swap.

[WarmAndSCSI]

if you need any "viewing material" over there (no homo) hit me up i just got a bailysroom.com site rip with 4200 pics

BWAHAHAHA :lol:

[boostzealot]

brandon, get my addy from tim. lol that would be great, i know it would be funny as hell as we are all reviewing each others porn as if they were trading cards! :lol:

ED hey that'll be just fine. good luck to you on your venture for more power. you will notice one hell of a difference but its just going to make you mad because its how mitsu should have offered a version of the 8g like nissan did the altima (altima SE-R)

[6G72gearhead]

Bah, you guys and your silly displacement. I'll stick with my 3 liters, now I just need to really build my heads so I can make this fucker rev.

What kind of compression ratios are you looking at running, and where are you going to get those pistons.

I really havent seen much on what pump gas compression limits would be with this motor, would 11-11.5:1 be doable.

[boostzealot]

lol i love my displacement.

here is the build concept:
CP 11:1 cr pistons
stock rods
clevite bearings
RPW stage 2 cams
RPW venier cam gears
full head port and polish
Jenvey 48mm or 50mm itbs
custom lower manifold
tuned with an emanage ultimate (by tim)

with the machine work that pro-machine says that they can do, they said 300whp on pump will be easy with this motor at this altitude. i cant wait. the engine parts purchasing starts on the first.

[djflex167]

just put the ingalls stiffy on as well as the st sway bar. i like this car more and more everyday.
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k232/boostzealot/new%20beginnings/S8001915.jpg
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k232/boostzealot/new%20beginnings/S8001916.jpg
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k232/boostzealot/new%20beginnings/S8001923.jpg
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k232/boostzealot/new%20beginnings/S8001925.jpg
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k232/boostzealot/new%20beginnings/S8001926.jpg

and dont say shit about my tires, they were up front before. but on the real they are getting replaced tomorrow with hankook z212's
will those sway bar work better then that one the GTZ comes with?

[projectGTZ]

lol i love my displacement.

here is the build concept:
CP 11:1 cr pistons
stock rods
clevite bearings
RPW stage 2 cams
RPW venier cam gears
full head port and polish
Jenvey 48mm or 50mm itbs
custom lower manifold
tuned with an emanage ultimate (by tim)

with the machine work that pro-machine says that they can do, they said 300whp on pump will be easy with this motor at this altitude. i cant wait. the engine parts purchasing starts on the first.

lol, sounds like re-enlistment money to me!!

[projectGTZ]

also, anyword about the possiblitiies of stroker kit(s) for the 6G74?

[6G72gearhead]

lol i love my displacement.

here is the build concept:
CP 11:1 cr pistons
stock rods
clevite bearings
RPW stage 2 cams
RPW venier cam gears
full head port and polish
Jenvey 48mm or 50mm itbs
custom lower manifold
tuned with an emanage ultimate (by tim)

with the machine work that pro-machine says that they can do, they said 300whp on pump will be easy with this motor at this altitude. i cant wait. the engine parts purchasing starts on the first.

I'm guessing the two motors are similar enough for me to run similar compression numbers. I'm kinda feeling the stage 3 cams from RPW, a little more aggressive, but you wont peg the tach like I will. I'm guessing your going fore 8500 rpm limit. I may try to go higher.

Are you looking at running a box over the tuned stacks to allow for a filter of some kind, or are you just planning on running the ITB's on straight stack.

[pinoyesv6]

will those sway bar work better then that one the GTZ comes with?

aftermarket rear sway bar will perform better than anything from the factory. I too have an ST sway bar and I love it. one thing though. the ST sway bar isn't made for hte 8g so there will be modifications needed, unlike the addco and RM racing sway bars that just drop in.

[boostzealot]

Gearhead, yeah the motors are similar in the aspect of tuning and reliability and the heads but of course they are pretty different in just the engineering standpoint. as you know the cams are different which contribute to the early torque curve but these RPW's will change all that. i wish i could just keep the low end torque and have some nice flow up top but doesnt everyone. the itbs will be mainly for the course as i will have a regular upper intake mani for street/daily driving. im converting to a map sensor so that i can run either the itbs or the manifold depending on the situation. the manifold is pretty badass because it has a q45 tb with a 2 liter surgetank on the old XG350 manifold i had on my 72. so all in all there will only be tuned stacks, no box.

Project, its not re-enlistment money its deployment money which is better because its tax free! oh and ill probably make like 10K here. woot woot.

[WarmAndSCSI]

Heh, I can't wait to tear into this engine :twisted:

And, no, I'm not going to break it :oops:

Contrary to the amount of money I waste on pistons and whatnot, I actually know what I'm doing :P

[boostzealot]

Heh, I can't wait to tear into this engine :twisted:

And, no, I'm not going to break it :oops:

Contrary to the amount of money I waste on pistons and whatnot, I actually know what I'm doing :P

oh we know :lol:
i cant wait for Jenvey to email me pics of what they think i should do to my manifold. simon over at Jenvey has been telling me that he can make another 30whp with properly designed itbs/manifold. cant wait to unveil this shit at MOD 08

[djflex167]

will those sway bar work better then that one the GTZ comes with?

aftermarket rear sway bar will perform better than anything from the factory. I too have an ST sway bar and I love it. one thing though. the ST sway bar isn't made for hte 8g so there will be modifications needed, unlike the addco and RM racing sway bars that just drop in.
thanks, than i guess i gotta start searching for a better sway bar for my GTZ!

[6G72gearhead]

I know you have kind of a set idea as to what you want but let me remind you of this.

FWD sedan+ Manual trans + lots of low end from big V6 = The definition of wheelspin

I'd have no problems makeing less power then a D series honda motor until 4 grand, that would give me a chance to get out of the hole before the motor decided to shread the tires.

[KaziKai]

is it hard to do a auto to a manuel conversion? I have a 2003 es 2.4... What should I get...

[boostzealot]

I know you have kind of a set idea as to what you want but let me remind you of this.

FWD sedan+ Manual trans + lots of low end from big V6 = The definition of wheelspin

I'd have no problems makeing less power then a D series honda motor until 4 grand, that would give me a chance to get out of the hole before the motor decided to shread the tires.

:lol: less power than a d series. thats horrible, i think i have a RC car that'll do that. :lol:

yeah i guess having the band shift to the right on the graph wouldnt be too bad considering the motor will make over 300wtq. that would suck trying to launch. hell it sucks now. i can bring the tire pressure down to 12psi and launch in second at 2500 and still light the tires up all the way through third. this thing is a monster down low. as a matter of fact it kept up with an 06 GTO from first through the end of second from a 5mph roll! it would be way better to have the power a little later but i would hate to have such short gears with power that isnt usable until the end. i know im exaggerating but you understand.

[boostzealot]

ok guys here's a little update. just ordered the RPW stage 2 NA cams and valvetrain to compliment the cams. the 10.5:1 CR CP pistons will be ordered on the 15th and then the motor build should commence shortly thereafter. i cant wait this trip to iraq has granted some much desired parts purchasing, here is the list thusfar:
jdm one piece heads
jdm old style vr4 bumper
jdm old style vr4 grille
csf aluminum radiator
rpw stage 2 cams
rpw NA valvetrain
carbing stb
ksport coilovers
fidanza 9lb flywheel
spec stage2 clutch
megan short shifter
so i still have some stuff to order but damn i cant wait to get home so i can work on and drive this "new" car! ill keep everyone posted. and thanks tim for everything bro!

[WarmAndSCSI]

I really want to start working on your car... I'm so close to being where I don't have to worry about mine any more. Once the engine is solid, that's it.

I just took some photos of the K-Sport Coilovers. These are REALLY nice. I'll send them your way.

[Mike_Rom]

That is going to be sick BJ!!! Can't wait!

[boostzealot]

I really want to start working on your car... I'm so close to being where I don't have to worry about mine any more. Once the engine is solid, that's it.

I just took some photos of the K-Sport Coilovers. These are REALLY nice. I'll send them your way.

thanks again man. are you sending them to my work email because hotmail is being really slow right now. i cant wait to see them in person. i've also been talking to russ and we've decided on the 10.5:1's and the itb's for dyno, show, race purposes and then the custom intake mani w/the q45 tb for daily driving. it should show good results and will make the 100whp per liter that i really want.

[boostzealot]

oh god please post these pics! dude these things look fantastic holy shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[WarmAndSCSI]

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t158/vancottt/boostzealot%20parts/th_RIMG0188.jpg (http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t158/vancottt/boostzealot%20parts/RIMG0188.jpg)

Front: http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t158/vancottt/boostzealot%20parts/th_RIMG0189.jpg http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t158/vancottt/boostzealot%20parts/th_RIMG0190.jpg (http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t158/vancottt/boostzealot%20parts/RIMG0190.jpg) http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t158/vancottt/boostzealot%20parts/th_RIMG0193.jpg (http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t158/vancottt/boostzealot%20parts/RIMG0193.jpg)

Rear: http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t158/vancottt/boostzealot%20parts/th_RIMG0191.jpg (http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t158/vancottt/boostzealot%20parts/RIMG0191.jpg) http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t158/vancottt/boostzealot%20parts/th_RIMG0192.jpg (http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t158/vancottt/boostzealot%20parts/RIMG0192.jpg) http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t158/vancottt/boostzealot%20parts/th_RIMG0194.jpg (http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t158/vancottt/boostzealot%20parts/RIMG0194.jpg)

[laxinwarrior]

Shit those are fuckin sexy. When you get back I'll have to figure out a time to drive out and see the both of you guys. :cool:

[boostzealot]

Shit those are fuckin sexy. When you get back I'll have to figure out a time to drive out and see the both of you guys. :cool:

we may just have to meet at the factory during back to normal. it would be about half way for the both of us. man both my car and tim's have come a long way since 2006! we are both faster, handle better, and both look better! things are really going to get interesting after the spring time though

[WarmAndSCSI]

Yep, we're both gonna be at Factory MOD.

[boostzealot]

tim wanna go to back to normal?

[WarmAndSCSI]

Depends... we'll talk on it.

[boostzealot]

by then we should both have reliable fully built cars. time to tape them up again for another road trip

[Ruslik]

man this motor look nice and clean
ahhh i got to start saving money

[boostzealot]

man this motor look nice and clean
ahhh i got to start saving money

are you talking about your own or mine?

[boostzealot]

shit my car might as well be sponsored by greddy!
just ordered:
greddy oil catch can
greddy radiator overflow tank
and ive already got:
greddy emanage blue
greddy Ti-C exhaust
greddy counterweight shift knob

oh and just got notified that the clutch, flywheel, and my fuel rails just arrived! thanks again tim and cant wait to see the pics

[fatal1]

nice cant wait till your back up and running you got in on the 3g buy for the fuel rails right? they were really nice looking if they are still selling them i may have to pick them up when i finish everything going on now

[boostzealot]

if im not mistaken i was told they stopped selling them but you never know. they have a website and you may be able to custom order a set but im sure that you wont get them for the GB price and if you do then awesome for you. tim got them in yesterday and he said that they look absolute! so they were worth the money to me. i enjoy quality with a price ya know.

[Stewi]

Hey did they ever fix them K-sport coilovers and add the hole for the sway bar link?

[boostzealot]

it looks like it but i cant be sure without actually seeing them. im still in iraq and wont be home until at least the spring time. but from the looks of it they fixed them. i hope i didnt pay almost a grand on something that isnt fully complete and if i did then im prepared to have them fixed. i know way too many fabricators who can help out in that department.

[boostzealot]

a little update:

cams, greddy catch can and rad overflow tank, injector clips, short shifter, valve springs, as well as the clutch and flywheel are all in and waiting for me to get home for their installs but the pistons are going to take 6weeks to get made from CP and then i still have to figure out what else i want to do within the realm of not spending all my deployment money.

update +2: i wont be able to get the car painted fully because i will be buying a house when i return from my deployment. so i will be staying silver for a little longer but at least the car will look like i want it to and have a built motor to go with the face she will have.
im kind of bummed about not being able to get the car painted but at least i will have the power i want.

[4g63lover]

a little update:

cams, greddy catch can and rad overflow tank, injector clips, short shifter, valve springs, as well as the clutch and flywheel are all in and waiting for me to get home for their installs but the pistons are going to take 6weeks to get made from CP and then i still have to figure out what else i want to do within the realm of not spending all my deployment money.

update +2: i wont be able to get the car painted fully because i will be buying a house when i return from my deployment. so i will be staying silver for a little longer but at least the car will look like i want it to and have a built motor to go with the face she will have.
im kind of bummed about not being able to get the car painted but at least i will have the power i want.


man, I would be like a little kid in a candy store with all those parts.

Quite honestly man, your look is perfect I wouldn't touch it. But hey if ya want a color change then go right ahead. Good luck when you get back!

[boostzealot]

thanks man, im just really ready for the old style vr4 bumper as it looks more aggressive and will provide a way for me to duct air to the brakes when im on the road course.

[WarmAndSCSI]

Combine the parts from his build along with my build under the same roof (I'm hoarding his parts until they go in the car) and you literally have a little kid in a candy store :D

Currently, there is a full front JDM conversion, RPW cams and springs, SPEC clutch, Fidanza flywheel, these crazy-ass fuel rails, Megan short shifter, Carbing STB, GReddy rice, spare CP pistons, hotside turbo piping for a 6G72, D3 Designs CSK, CSF radiator, HKS SSQV, and a MSD 6A box and coil sitting on the middle level of my house :lol: I'm sure I'm forgetting some stuff. But yeah, somebody would make out very well by raiding my house right now. If they own a 6G72 Eclipse or Galant, that is :lol:

BJ, may I keep these cams?

[boostzealot]

lol no dammit!!!

since you have such a good repor with CP why dont you get my pistons quicker than 6 weeks. man thats such bullshit, you know they are going to sit somewhere for a damn week.

[WarmAndSCSI]

Shit, now I've got to pull them out of my heads. Fucking eh, man!

I have no ties to CP... just Race Engineering (the guys who are ordering them for you). And that's an accurate lead time. CP is SWAMPED during the winter. They told me about the same...

[6G72gearhead]

Or Fed Ex will lose them.

[boostzealot]

please tim do not curse me.

tj man thanks for the pics i ll have to post them tonight when i get off work!! that was the nut ive been waiting to get for the last couple of weeks

[boostzealot]

hey guys i was thinking of using this as my new sig. its a picture that tj sent me of my cams and springs but i played with it a little on paint for a few minutes because it was begging for some more attention. let me know what you think.

[Ivory8g]

Hah thats sexy Boostz but wouldn't that be hard to read as a sig?

[WarmAndSCSI]

That's what I told him :lol:

[boostzealot]

i know it will be but i was thinking about how epic it looks when you look at it fully. man i like the way it pans out you know. i just wish i could get it to be more clear. TJ if you want to play with it please by all means do so to see what you come up with. ive enjoyed your creative side before so have at it.

[WarmAndSCSI]

I has no creative side.

LOL @ epic.

[boostzealot]

lol considering how this pic makes me feel and the magnitude of this build to me, yeah i think epic would be the term

[WarmAndSCSI]

Do you want me to post the photos?

[boostzealot]

why yes if you could, im at work so my computer owns me right now=(

[WarmAndSCSI]

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[Ivory8g]

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t158/vancottt/boostzealot%20parts/RIMG0250.jpg

Now thats an epic pic ^.^

[WarmAndSCSI]

lol, macro mode on my camera is epic fail.

[Ivory8g]

haha what camera do you have?

[WarmAndSCSI]

It's like a Fuji 3.2 MP I won several years back at a raffle at ISEF. Free is good, but I need a better camera.

[6G72gearhead]

Meh, it gets the point across.

[Ivory8g]

Meh, it gets the point across.
Ditto it gets the job done. Cameras are hella cheap nowadays, but if you are upgrading you might as well get the best when you do.

[boostzealot]

slight new update, if some of you dont know the last numbers the car posted were 225whp @5300 and 235wtq @4350. there have been some improvements over the last few months that have made changes in the butt dyno but all of you know that i dont go by that. so one more will be done while im on the east coast and on 93 octane fuel at virtually sea level. hoping for some great numbers this time. i just bought an evo x so some of the attention will be getting shifted but i tell you what, my galant is one hell of a daily driver. i got 29.1mpg on the last road trip i got running on shell 92/93 octane fuel

[RedGalant2k1]

What is your total gain over stock whp?

[03-Galant-ES]

slight new update, if some of you dont know the last numbers the car posted were 225whp @5300 and 235wtq @4350. there have been some improvements over the last few months that have made changes in the butt dyno but all of you know that i dont go by that. so one more will be done while im on the east coast and on 93 octane fuel at virtually sea level. hoping for some great numbers this time. i just bought an evo x so some of the attention will be getting shifted but i tell you what, my galant is one hell of a daily driver. i got 29.1mpg on the last road trip i got running on shell 92/93 octane fuel

Hahah you and TJ with your fast Gs and slow evos ;)

[boostzealot]

What is your total gain over stock whp?

my first dyno netted me only 158whp and 164wtq but that was in SC on a mustang dyno at only 50ft above sea level. after the swap, rebuild, 5spd swap, and tune im sitting at 225whp and 235wtq so quite a gain ill say for the money spent and that was in utah at nearly 4600ft above sea level. not to mention with me being NA ive seriously spent as much as someone going with a SDS stage 1 or a revised turbo kit and am making more power in some cases. i have to say though, it comes from researching a picking a good combo of parts. also the last time i was dyno'd i was on a dynojet as opposed to the dynamite dyno that i made that 158. if i was to go back to the original dyno i would probably be close to 230whp and 240wtq. so definatively a 67whp gain and a 71wtq gain over stock and ive dropped about 300lbs of weight as well. surely makes for a hell of a quick galant.

[boostzealot]

Hahah you and TJ with your fast Gs and slow evos ;)

that will soon change. lol

[machvali]

damn man im going to try and get stationed with you so i can get some help with my G lol