Lose power at idle

[D8]

So I just installed the MAF adapter someone else was talking about on my G....along with a cone filter.......

took it for a test ride......sounds awesome, especially on the high end.....but when I come to stop lights I'm losing power at idle......the rpm's go down and the battery light lights up for a sec.....then it kicks back up to normal idle.....

help??? did I do something wrong.....or is this normal???

Also hearing a wooosh sound when turning car off.....normal??

[n3oAcid24]

might not help but did you reset your ECU after the intake install?

[hsinya]

resetting the ecu will most likely help. the car isn't used to breathing more easily.

and the woosh sound is normal

[solofantasy]

stalling... make freaking sure you reset your ECU by disconnect your negative battery for 30 or more minutes.

also, tell me if your mileage went to or went up later. I need that info. thanks.

[D8]

I had the battery disconnected for more than a half hour when I installed it....

I had to run to auto zone in my girls car to get replacement bolts......so should I disconnect the battery again???

[D8]

I found this online.....what do you guys think??

ECU Reset
Definition

The ECU "learns" about your engine as you drive the car. The "learning" is actually a process that the ECU uses to track the tolerance changes of the sensors and actuators on the engine. Two examples of these values are the position of the idle-air bypass valve (automatic choke) at idle with the A/C on, and the trim gain on the injectors. The ECU stores these "learned" values in battery backed-up RAM so that it doesn't have to start from scratch the next time you turn your engine over.

"Resetting the ECU" is the process of clearing all the long term memory from the ECU's memory. These variables trim idle speed, fuel, spark, and more. The ECU will also store trouble codes for diagnostic capability. By resetting the ECU, the trim values will be set to some neutral default value and all of the trouble codes will be cleared.
How-To

To "reset" the ECU, all you have to do is remove the source of backup power. To keep the memory alive while the car is off, the ECU has a direct line, through a fuse, that goes right to the battery. This is usually the same line and fuse that supplies backup power to your radio so it doesn't forget all of its settings. In a DSM, this is the fuse that controls the footlights that go on when you open your car door. On a 1990-1994 DSM, this is the 10A fuse in the lower-right-hand-corner of the fuse box near the driver's footwell. On a 1995+ DSM, this is the 10A fuse on the right-hand side of the middle row of the same fuse box. Pull this fuse with the key out and wait for about 15 seconds, then put the fuse back in. Your ECU has now lost all of its long term memory values and will "reset" them all to defaults when it next powers on. By the way, the factory radio's memory lasts for a minute or two, so you probably will not lose your saved stations.

Sometimes people like to pull this fuse when they are working on or cleaning the interior of their car. This fuse also controls the lights that go on when you open the door, so many pull this fuse so they don't drain the battery during their job. However, this will also cut backup power to the ECU.
Myth

There is quite a bit of mythology revolving around resetting the ECU. Many people mistakenly believe that they need to reset the ECU after installing major engine modifications. Others believe resetting will resolve engine problems. Neither are correct.
Reality

The ECU is always tracking the engine's sensors and actuators. Resetting the ECU does not cause the ECU to learn engine changes any faster. The ECU is always tracking the gradual changes in the engine sensors and actuators. The ECU never gets satisfied with a setting, and is always updating the trim values. It will discover whatever change you made to your engine and make the appropriate changes. In fact, unplugging the ECU will most likely increase the learning curve of the new part.

On a DSM, there are only two reasons why you would want to reset your ECU. One is to clear a CHECK ENGINE light or error code after fixing the problem that caused the error. The other is to reset the spark advance trim value. The advance trim controls how much the timing is retarded from what the factory engineers considered optimum. This particular trim value is the only one the ECU "resets" to a non-neutral MAX value. If you are driving on low grade gas, the pinging picked up by the knock sensor causes this trim value to be lowered, and your timing to be retarded. If you go to the track and put good gas in the tank, you might not want to wait for the ECU to learn about the new gas and advance the timing. So resetting the ECU in this case makes sense. However, in the process, you will lose your idle and fuel trims (probably not too important for drag racing, though).
Questions

Won't clearing the trouble codes make the car run better? On a DSM, no. If the ECU notices a problem with a sensor, it will flag a code and possibly turn on the CHECK ENGINE light. Should the problem go away, the ECU will turn off the light and start using the sensor as normal once again. The code will be stored inside for later diagnostic retrieval. But that code being stored does not affect the ECU operation in any way.

I reset the ECU, and now the car runs rough! Why? The engine may run rough or idle poorly right after ECU reset. The ECU now has default numbers in its trim memory - it has to adjust them to match the tune of your engine and its sensors and actuators. It might take a day or two of driving in traffic before the engine will settle down again. Now you know why the ECU remembers these values in the first place!

[n3oAcid24]

well once you reset your ECU, it is going to be acting a little funny for the first few times you drive your car. the ECU needs to remember everything. when i installed my intake and drove around, my car stalled on me once.....

[D8]

well once you reset your ECU, it is going to be acting a little funny for the first few times you drive your car. the ECU needs to remember everything. when i installed my intake and drove around, my car stalled on me once.....


LOL....that's what I just read......OK so it's normal.....for a few days it will be a little rough...but it will settle...good news!!

I LOVE the sound it has now......more noticeable on the high end.....I can see a definite increase in power....nothing huge....but I can tell

thanks for the help!!

[D8]

Well the idle issue has cleared up......thanks for the input guys!

[milo111000]

yup when you reset you supposed to let it sit for a while in idle... ac off for 10 mins then ac on for another 10..

[Jet Black]

That sound will cost you atleast a few hundred dollars in gas money.

Trust me, its addictive. :lol:

[polishmafia]

That sound will cost you atleast a few hundred dollars in gas money.

Trust me, its addictive. :lol:

i just installed mine last week, and i already burned through a tank :lol:

[D8]

That sound will cost you atleast a few hundred dollars in gas money.

Trust me, its addictive. :lol:

i just installed mine last week, and i already burned through a tank :lol:


So....I will be losing gas mileage???
Or will I gain gas mileage if I don't floor it all the time..... :P

anyway, I always thought these things added to the gas mileage.....am i wrong?

[solofantasy]

I had the same question.

Will you increase your gas mileage if you have the intake and drive normally? That is a big question.

O by the way, did it improve your throttle response?

[D8]

I had the same question.

Will you increase your gas mileage if you have the intake and drive normally? That is a big question.

O by the way, did it improve your throttle response?


yes it did.......

I don't usually take off like a bat out of hell so I'm wondering if my mileage will increase or at least stay the same.......and I can live with it going down a little.....anyway....lemme know, anyone.