The birth of another 4G63 powered 7G (56k**NO)ITS ALIVE!!!!!

[njjfudge]

Today Steve (b19wheeles) started the swap on his 7g at my house, with a little help from me.............LOL. I will use this topic to show pics, but he works so fast he should be done in a few days :lol: .
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This is where we stopped for today. Had to replace his rack and it was a bitch to get out. More to come tomorrow.
Here are some mis. pics from today:
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AND I KNOW I KNOW MY 7G NEEDS A DROP.
Stay tuned!!!!!!!!!

[DOHCstunr]

make sure you scrub down that engine bay with some degreaser, a sponge and water
before you go any further with the swap.
you'll be glad you did.



yeah thats a filthy engine bay.

good luck with the swap, once you get it you ought to quit ricing out your bov, your engine will run much better

[Diamndsr4eva]

looking good. I really love the look of the 7g with the diamond edition bumper. i think it looks great. Cant wait to see more pics of the swap. sooooooo much potential. :smt023

[4g63lover]

cool! whos red 8G?

[phizzalot]

Insane... Good to see a fellow 7g upgrading....
think Iam going to have to move to GA :twisted:

[Sleepervr-4]

Nice good luck with the swap.

[pvu_rida]

good luck dude

[Shadow19]

Damn.. Must be nice.... Glad to see it getting done.. (Hopefully this install will be alot cleaner than the last) I.E. Wires.................. But im not being a dick.. Good job!!!

[Joaltava]

dude nice job man, when you scrub down the inside of the engine bay if you want to get some spray paint and paint the really bad parts of if not do the whole engine bay.

[Joaltava]

Insane... Good to see a fellow 7g upgrading....
think Iam going to have to move to GA :twisted:


why you want to move up there if we are about to start boosting down here too

[njjfudge]

Yeah DOHCstunr, we were talking about how birty the bay was but it got cleaned real good today. Getting some paint and repaint some of bay tomorrow.


cool! whos red 8G?
That belongs to a local guy we know. His tranny went out, he wanted to do a 5-speed swap first but his dad talked him out of it. So now we are just going to drop another auto in it :roll:

His old turbo setup looked a lot better at first, but the head has been replaced a few times and the motor is really on its last leg. He just didn't put things back as neat after the last few tar downs.
Thanks guys for the comments, and an extra thanks to Diamndsr4eva for the comment on my 7g. Not much was done today, mostly cleaning reinforcing the motor mounts and moving the tranny from the 4g64 to the 4g63. The turbo on the 4g63 in the pics is a 16g, he is going to break the motor in on this turbo then he is going to put his 60-1 on :twisted:
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[B19WHEELS]

Thanks alot Nick for clearing up all the wires under the hood.. Also the engine bay is clean and painted now..Guys i really stoped caring for that 4g64 motor after i bought my 6 bolt which was about 3 months ago..As much as i pounded on my 4g64 motor it just didnt want to break so i could do the swap(gotta give the wife a good reason for swapping motor)I over boosted it,over reved and ran it low on oil but nothing happened! So finally i fouled out the plugs. So finally the monster project is being started...

[Kalamidad]

:D

[T-double]

man looking good keep up the good work and get it in and running.....

[seth98esT]

That white valve cover is hot, but its going to get so dirty haha :)

[4-G-rim]

Nice! Its good to see that no one is giving up on the 7g's :mrgreen:

[microgalant]

Nice, good luck with the project..

[njjfudge]

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More Diamond Edition Tails!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[4-G-rim]

:smt041

Looking good!!

[phizzalot]

Insane... Good to see a fellow 7g upgrading....
think Iam going to have to move to GA :twisted:


why you want to move up there if we are about to start boosting down here too

Well Ga is a lot nicer and more affordable then west palm :)....

Back on topic though...

Excellent work fellas... did you guys run the 4g63 harness with that or just changed up a few wires and added to the existing harness?

very nice "G" awd conversion next? :twisted:

[4g63lover]

awseome work dudes! vids vids vids!

[B19WHEELS]

[quote="Joaltava"][quote=phizzalot]
very nice "G" awd conversion next? :twisted:
Shhh!!Thanks for the comments guys.. I cleaned the engine bay and all i have left is to paint or powdercoat my IC pipes and finish my new wiring harness!!
I will be posting a complete 98 Eclipse A/T turbo engine wiring harness up for sale with a few other things..

[SkylineG1]

Shoulda let the valave cover white. Can't wait to see the end result.

[B19WHEELS]

Shoulda let the valave cover white. Can't wait to see the end result.
Ive got 5 or 6 different color valve covers...lolI think i will use the white for shows only..

[SkylineG1]

Shoulda let the valave cover white. Can't wait to see the end result.
Ive got 5 or 6 different color valve covers...lolI think i will use the white for shows only..

Ahhh

[Censee]

wow dude,, looking great,,,,, awesome work..

[njjfudge]

The swap is 95% done, took a break because of work. Plan to have it running tomorrow.

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And for the guys that love JDM...............

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[DOHCstunr]

there isn't an idea that i could come up with that would be a worse case scenario than running no timing belt cover.

way to roll the dice.

its a pretty sweet idea to gamble all the time, labor and money into leaving the most volnerable part of the rotating asembly to chance.

still, glad to see another join the club,
just don't be a fool w/ it

[seth98esT]

Ooooh man, not running a lower timing belt cover? Hopefully its not a dailey. Did you figure out all the wiring? Let me know if your stuck on anything.

[njjfudge]

Ooooh man, not running a lower timing belt cover? Hopefully its not a dailey. Did you figure out all the wiring? Let me know if your stuck on anything.

Yes the lower timing belt cover is on the motor, just the top cover, over the cam gears, was removed

[DOHCstunr]

Ooooh man, not running a lower timing belt cover? Hopefully its not a dailey. Did you figure out all the wiring? Let me know if your stuck on anything.

Yes the lower timing belt cover is on the motor, just the top cover, over the cam gears, was removed

all you have to do is drop one nut, one tiny bolt, one paper clip, one pebble, one anything into the timing cover when its open like that... at any time....

any time over the years, months, days that you have that motor runing.... and the timing belt is shot.
and subsequently.... your motor.

not worth it IMHO
put the cover back on. there really is no point to having it off, and of course, this is one of the reasons mitsu made it in the first place... to protect the belt.

[B19WHEELS]

Ooooh man, not running a lower timing belt cover? Hopefully its not a dailey. Did you figure out all the wiring? Let me know if your stuck on anything.

Yes the lower timing belt cover is on the motor, just the top cover, over the cam gears, was removed

all you have to do is drop one nut, one tiny bolt, one paper clip, one pebble, one anything into the timing cover when its open like that... at any time....

any time over the years, months, days that you have that motor runing.... and the timing belt is shot.
and subsequently.... your motor.
The point of me having it off is because i like it that way(thanks). This motor is only to get things started for this car i dont plan on having a 2 liter in this car forever thats one of the reasons why i havent touched my Talon yet!!Ive had 6 Mitsubishi cars and on all of them i removed the timing cover with no problems!!Im good on the wiring now when i needed help the people i contacted did return my pm's. So im going to finish my car and rewrite the 4g63t tutorial with pics so everyone can do the swap!!Sorry if i offened anyone here but i have always looked out for others so i was expecting to get the same love in return..

not worth it IMHO
put the cover back on. there really is no point to having it off, and of course, this is one of the reasons mitsu made it in the first place... to protect the belt.

[B19WHEELS]

Ooooh man, not running a lower timing belt cover? Hopefully its not a dailey. Did you figure out all the wiring? Let me know if your stuck on anything.

Yes the lower timing belt cover is on the motor, just the top cover, over the cam gears, was removed

all you have to do is drop one nut, one tiny bolt, one paper clip, one pebble, one anything into the timing cover when its open like that... at any time....

any time over the years, months, days that you have that motor runing.... and the timing belt is shot.
and subsequently.... your motor.

not worth it IMHO
put the cover back on. there really is no point to having it off, and of course, this is one of the reasons mitsu made it in the first place... to protect the belt.
I like my timing cover off im sure by now everthing will be ok(trust me). This motor is only to get things started for this car i dont plan on having a 2 liter in this car forever thats one of the reasons why i havent touched my Talon yet!!Ive had 6 Mitsubishi cars and on all of them i removed the timing cover with no problems!!Im good on the wiring now when i needed help the people i contacted did return my pm's.I didnt know you knew how to do it or else i would have contacted you.. So im going to finish my car and rewrite the 4g63t tutorial with pics so everyone can do the swap!!Sorry if i offened anyone here but i have always looked out for others so i was expecting to get the same love in return..

[njjfudge]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivJ_570yPik

Tommrow the wiring gets put out of sight to make the bay look cleaner, and the inside gets put back together. :twisted:

[SkylineG1]

the beast is alive

[seth98esT]

Sweet, glad I didnt confuse you(or myself) with the wiring help haha. Congrats! Go have some fun!

Im not running an upper timing cover either, I couldnt get a stock cover to fit with the AEM cam gears, havent ran one for two years. But John is right, it only takes one mishap and its all over haha.

[njjfudge]

A few pics with everything in it's place, but the battery it is going in the trunk and the EGT line needs to be done.
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It starts right up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u11HT8kFZsc
The blow off:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL2WyMX9bOQ

[DNSerrano]

Hyundai??? Oh snap! That cover came out of the Elantras or Accents? 2.0l ones? Nice setup you guys got going there, 7gs FTW!

[B19WHEELS]

Thanks for posting the new pics and videos Nick! What you guys think?

[B19WHEELS]

Hyundai??? Oh snap! That cover came out of the Elantras right? 2.0l ones? Nice setup you guys got going there, 7gs FTW!
Yea that valve cover is actually off a Hyundai Sonata with the 2.0l..

[phizzalot]

Well Congrats on the install B19Wheels.... And I duno if it will be you or Nfudge that will rewrite the tutorial but either way it would be greatly appreciated and helpful...

Duno If I asked before but how much lbs are you running and what type of engine management are ya using?

Congrats again...

[DOHCstunr]

way to go. any cel's?
you hooked up your logger yet?

ditch those worm gear clamps, get some tbolt clamps!

I'm not going to give you shit, since you went through all the trouble of the swap. again, welcome to the club, but your vented bov is rice. and it will rob you of performance.

[B19WHEELS]

way to go. any cel's?
you hooked up your logger yet?

ditch those worm gear clamps, get some tbolt clamps!

I'm not going to give you shit, since you went through all the trouble of the swap. again, welcome to the club, but your vented bov is rice. and it will rob you of performance.
No Cel's I just picked up new clamps and couplers this morning after i got off work!Not concerned about the bov right now it will get changed after i break the motor in along with the turbo,mani and a few other things!! Thanks for throwing out the welcome mat!!

[B19WHEELS]

More updates!!Who cares if you dont like my bov i love the way it sounds!

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[seth98esT]

Pretty clean, how much boost is she running? What are you using to tune?

[B19WHEELS]

Pretty clean, how much boost is she running? What are you using to tune?
Stock boost right now!! Tuned with SAFC2(havent had any prob with it since the 4g64 was in)AEM wideband(in downpipe),and 2g data logger!

I think this is the last of the pics with the 16g on the car next pics will have 60-1,Maft trans,and 880s,and cams(hopefully gears also)with alot more goodys in store!!

[DOHCstunr]

stock boost as in you wired up the factory bost control solenoid?
did you take the little restrictor out of it for 14 psi?

or are you talking about the base wastegate pressure

[DOHCstunr]

if you run the translator, run the gen2 translator. the original is beyond obsolete.

seth wants to know if your tach works.

what a/f are you tuning for? stock 450's?

have you done a boost leak check yet?
odds are you'll have 9 or 10. throttle seals, bov adjustment screw, j pipe gasket, yadda yadda.
as you know, they really fuck up your tune, just like a vented bov, except its while you are in boost, no after.

[milo111000]

sooooo super hot!!! now do the head swap!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

[njjfudge]

I told you I liked the black one better. You know you should have took a pic with my 7g in the background saying NEXT :twisted: