VIP-style Galant

[SMD]

anyone seen them Bippu? I think its a classy look. If you have any pics, post em. Thoughts?

http://a890.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/40/l_074cb7afa084854ddd445abb23537439.jpg


http://server3.uploadit.org/files/Neterustargate-jmjmj.jpg

not a fan of chrome wheels, but these are swift
http://a179.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/39/l_eb146598471cfa2c1e8cf59fa4983de2.jpg

http://a863.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/13/l_e1496408f65528b139bdfc63f5e127c6.jpg

http://a794.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/7/l_d178200c74fcfe13c766e320116e73b1.jpg

[Divinity]

yep

[jhendra83]

This has been posted a lot in the other pics section. Yes they are HOT Indonesian Gs. All of our Gs are actually JDMs.

[Divinity]

Sillyasians is going VIP style and has already got some sick things going on with his car. I'm going that way too.. eventually, shit is expensive lol.

[JDM4G64T]

No shit!!!!!!!! :smt115

[galant3jl12's]

I like everything cept for the wheels too big and they distract from the rest of the car.

[ChRome07]

What size would you guys say those rims are?

[ricky_db]

vip bound 8)

[SMD]

What size would you guys say those rims are?

i'm guessin the chrome ones are 20s, but they're tucked nice on both.

[SMD]

This has been posted a lot in the other pics section. Yes they are HOT Indonesian Gs. All of our Gs are actually JDMs.


is that your car with the photoshoped wheels in your sig? just curious..

[DarkPhoenixVR4]

I'm gonna be going semi-bippu. I am looking to see if Junction Produce makes a kit for the 8gs.

[ShiZnitH]

That car is hot 8) Looks actually good with 20" when they are tucked in that good :) Those headlights looks wery good aswell :D

[SMD]

I am looking to see if Junction Produce makes a kit for the 8gs.

u and i both wish.

but no way in hell. because galants aren't true VIP platform cars and JP focusses on luxury jap whips. plus, i'm sure there's nowhere near enough demand for Galant JP parts. :?

[fatal1]

I'm gonna be going semi-bippu. I am looking to see if Junction Produce makes a kit for the 8gs.

i know that there are a few vip styled lips and kits for the vrg bumper
(one posted) but they would have to be imported for the actual bumper trigger should be able to get it for you which you will need anyway fo the lip kits etc

[RAZ_76]

Those Gs are hot. Does this Trigger guy not want to make money or is he just too busy? I have pmed him a bunch of times asking for prices on some JDM bumpers but got nothing.

[Sillyasianz]

Yea i am. BUT i respect the true VIP platform. Dont embarass yourself. We will never be VIP. we are VIPish or VIP style at most. Dont cross that boundary. Give your car VIP inspiration....and leave it at that. im a member of vipstylecars.com and ive learned much...

Trigg can be busy. I just spend $1000.00 getting a full VRG rear setup w/ lip and vr4 old style sides from him. My rear setup..will be clean and the only one in the USA w/ it... 8)

[Reelax]

I'm gonna be going semi-bippu. I am looking to see if Junction Produce makes a kit for the 8gs.

i'll save you some time. they do not.

[6G72Galant]

This VIP look is just a fad. Same as the early "Rice" looking decals and clear altezzas, along with Drifting. VIP hasnt really hit as big as those two aforementioned fads, but it will. After VIP who knows what will be next? :P

I say do what you want to your car. Mod until your heart is content. Who cares what anybody else says. Mod your car the way you see fit.

[dknight3]

everythings a fad.

[ShiZnitH]

Not factory style 8)

[DarkPhoenixVR4]

Fortunately, the VIP style is pretty classy, and not overly ostentatious, so it is something that will still look pretty good for years.

[racesnos]

i would like to pursue VIP style. i'm already rollin on 20's, so i'm somewhat close hehe :lol:

[SMD]

i would like to pursue VIP style. i'm already rollin on 20's, so i'm somewhat close hehe :lol:

actually, wheel size isen't a main factor with Vip. wheel-type(brands/design) and fitment(outrageous toe-in) is more their focus.

and crazy shyt like window curtains on rails, wooden trays/cup holders, pillows in the headrest, jewel-encrusted shift knobs, etc. crazy shyt like that. :lol:

[dknight3]

Not factory style 8)
why do they make different generations then?

[Reelax]

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actually, wheel size isen't a main factor with Vip. wheel-type(brands/design) and fitment(outrageous toe-in) is more their focus.

...

you mean NEGATIVE CAMBER instead of TOE-IN... outrageous toe in would make the car unsteerable.

[Sillyasianz]

Yup. You can get big wheels w/ a staggered look. But it dont matter. Its wheel brand and style and size. Camber has to be CRAZY. Brand has to be respectable, size has to be unrealistic. Having a finger gap in the fender all around is TOO HIGH. It has to tuck all around and NOT rub. There is alot to be VIP.

[Reelax]

yeah VIP fitament would be more like 19x10 +32 w/ 225/35r19 w/ more than -4 degrees camber on air, streched tires tucking to rim w/ less than 10mm clearance to the fenders (fender lips/liners have to be cut or folded not just rolled). anybody wanna buy my wheels/tires and coilovers so i can start going full VIP?

[SMD]

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actually, wheel size isen't a main factor with Vip. wheel-type(brands/design) and fitment(outrageous toe-in) is more their focus.

...

you mean NEGATIVE CAMBER instead of TOE-IN... outrageous toe in would make the car unsteerable.

yeah that.

[ASTIG]

yeah VIP fitament would be more like 19x10 +32 w/ 225/35r19 w/ more than -4 degrees camber on air, streched tires tucking to rim w/ less than 10mm clearance to the fenders (fender lips/liners have to be cut or folded not just rolled). anybody wanna buy my wheels/tires and coilovers so i can start going full VIP?

PM me and let me know how much you want Reelax. I'm thinking of going to 19's in the spring. my 18's will be my winter shoes.


VIP shit looks HOTTTT!

[ricky_db]

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actually, wheel size isen't a main factor with Vip. wheel-type(brands/design) and fitment(outrageous toe-in) is more their focus.

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you mean NEGATIVE CAMBER instead of TOE-IN... outrageous toe in would make the car unsteerable. slam it!

[SMD]

VIP suspension = strictly Air ride. no springs.

I dont know of anyone who even makes AR for galants. unless u get it custom or someting...and that would be real $$$.

[ricky_db]

they all make air ride for galants. but if you get it you beter go with easy street air its worth it in the long run. insted of buying new rear cylinders from air fagit or assytech every three months :evil: . http://www.easystreetair.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=686 FTR!

[Niytrus]

they all make air ride for galants. but if you get it you beter go with easy street air its worth it in the long run. insted of buying new rear cylinders from air fagit or assytech every three months :evil: . http://www.easystreetair.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=686 FTR!

Seriously? Ive never had to replace my air cans... only thing I had to replace was a bag in the front that blew, but still that was after about 3 years. What size cyl do you have in the rear?

[ricky_db]

the 4 inch ones from airbagit

[SMD]

they all make air ride for galants. but if you get it you beter go with easy street air its worth it in the long run. insted of buying new rear cylinders from air fagit or assytech every three months :evil: . http://www.easystreetair.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=686 FTR!

wow i guess a lot has changed since i last looked for AR for the galant in '01. lol

[Niytrus]

the 4 inch ones from airbagit

I think thats your problem, go down to the 3 and whatever inch ones, no wonder you have such a bad rubbing problem!

[Divinity]

Yesterday I came up with an official name of what I'm going to be doing with my car, since I'm gonna be rolling on 20s soon, from the northside of Jacksonville (the ghetto almost, lol), and I like a lot of things from the VIP style... I'm going "Hood Rich" lol.

[SleekGTZ]

I'm starting a new fad. It's called the "Average Joe" look. LOL! 8)

[ricky_db]

the 4 inch ones from airbagit

I think thats your problem, go down to the 3 and whatever inch ones, no wonder you have such a bad rubbing problem! thats what the ass hole said fits :evil: i hate AIM ind. :smt013

[djflex167]

20's don't look bad on our G's!! nice!

[sdcounty619]

Look is good but expensive! Like the blue G tho.

[lonestar22]

note the VRG bumpers on those galants lol :D

[Divinity]

note the VRG bumpers on those galants lol :D
their bumpers fit :P

[Ivory8g]

note the VRG bumpers on those galants lol :D
their bumpers fit :P

Haha oh burn.... :lol:

[Reelax]

note the VRG bumpers on those galants lol :D
their bumpers fit :P

Haha oh burn.... :lol:


so DIVINITY is not enforcing stupidity w/ "Stupidity Enforcement Officer #001" (LONESTAR22) anymore?

[Divinity]

note the VRG bumpers on those galants lol :D
their bumpers fit :P

Haha oh burn.... :lol:


so DIVINITY is not enforcing stupidity w/ "Stupidity Enforcement Officer #001" (LONESTAR22) anymore?

He's on his own now, lol.

[lonestar22]

note the VRG bumpers on those galants lol :D
their bumpers fit :P

Haha oh burn.... :lol:


so DIVINITY is not enforcing stupidity w/ "Stupidity Enforcement Officer #001" (LONESTAR22) anymore?

He's on his own now, lol.

didnt even know that was still on mine.
so retarded

[WarmAndSCSI]

note the VRG bumpers on those galants lol :D
their bumpers fit :P

Haha oh burn.... :lol:


so DIVINITY is not enforcing stupidity w/ "Stupidity Enforcement Officer #001" (LONESTAR22) anymore?

He's on his own now, lol.

didnt even know that was still on mine.
so retarded

:lol: I've given you shit like twice for "enforcing stupidity" while you've had that in your signature. :lol:

[02on19s]

:twisted: :twisted: 8) 8) SICK..




....
THAT'LL BE ALL

[VIPtint]

heres the wheel setup on the black and chrome galant

20 x 9 et 28 / 10 et 12

[Divinity]

^^^ That's crazy!

[nokcy21]

i dont know if my car would be considered VIP. rolling it with 19x8 WORK
EUROLINES like on the blue G. :D

[lonestar22]

if your wheels were wider and lower offset w. more camber you could sign up to maybe be vip

[SMD]

i dont know if my car would be considered VIP. rolling it with 19x8 WORK
EUROLINES like on the blue G. :D

only cars than can be considered real "VIP" are those big body 4-door luxury cars cars like lexus LS, GS, Q45 infinity, ect, etc...pretty much just lexus and infinity luxry cars. i've heard that certain euro cars can even be vip.

unfortunately galants dont fit into the equation tho. so i wouldn't run around yelling "hey i got a VIP Galant" cause some wannabe Yakuza creep will probably shit on you. :lol:

but we can still make our G's pimped. :P i actually just bought a black Fusa for my rearview cause i like the way it looks.

[G-spot]

so can we vip a diamante?

[Kalamidad]

i'm never really been a fan of such negative camber on the wheels. I honestly feel it looks ugly and not worth the money because you're gonna be spending crazy money on tires that are gonna be no good in a fraction of the time of normal wear. But i do undestand that it is a STYLE and it doesn't have to make sence to me. Silly, now know what you're up to. LOL

hmm, no that i think about it, i also don't really appreciate curtains and the such became i'm never the passanger in my car. but again, i now it is a style.

whoever wants to do it should. even if i don't like it or understand it, i can still apreciate good body work, nice wheels, etc.

i would actually love that blue one with different rims and 00 camber.

[VIPtint]

heres my car now, my tires only last 2 months. i change tires twice with every oil change. its good to be sponsored by falken though. haha. yeah a galant really isnt considered VIP, but who cares, im gonna finish mine with VIP style. but ill call it VIP STYLE. its kind of like jdm. you can have jdm style but it will never really be jdm unless you import it. the VIP guys are pretty strict on this rule for some reason. i want mine to look kind of like the black one but with a lip kit, and of course turbo. but im all out of funds right now.
http://a321.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/87/l_d54f6a149521161f30ab499e0c997418.jpg
http://a385.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/77/l_e9d54465f5cec5ad4ff6310de54bb418.jpg

[Divinity]

I like how you have your inner rear lights tinted. I'm thinking about getting a dark tint film to tint my tails once I'm done with them. You have precut tint for JDM tails? lol

[VIPtint]

we get lamin-x from lamin-x.com. pretty sure you can get the same kit as the usdm. just use a little bit of lightly soapy water to apply it. kits go for about $50 i think. ijust did the taillight mod a couple of weeks ago. still thinking about taking it off. IDK, i like it.

[nokcy21]

i know there no way for that. im planning to sell all JDM parts on my car, planning to get a real VIP car :D like VIPtint has, where did you get those jdm taillights on your GS,

[SMD]

so can we vip a diamante?

you can make it VIP-like. :D

[VIPtint]

their junction produce tails. theyre like $1,000.00. they make knockoffs now that look exactly the same. sux for me huh? junction produce does have another set that are different but havent been copied yet. but i cant get those cuz they are $1,600.00.

ebay has plenty of them in different styles now

[Gladiator]

heres my car now, my tires only last 2 months. i change tires twice with every oil change. its good to be sponsored by falken though. haha. yeah a galant really isnt considered VIP, but who cares, im gonna finish mine with VIP style. but ill call it VIP STYLE. its kind of like jdm. you can have jdm style but it will never really be jdm unless you import it. the VIP guys are pretty strict on this rule for some reason. i want mine to look kind of like the black one but with a lip kit, and of course turbo. but im all out of funds right now.
http://a321.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/87/l_d54f6a149521161f30ab499e0c997418.jpg
http://a385.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/77/l_e9d54465f5cec5ad4ff6310de54bb418.jpg

I remember Falken ads featuring a GS of your model. Is it your car? :P

[VIPtint]

yes, this is that car

[9G]

omg! that is hot. im selling my 8g!

[lonestar22]

9G i love the mean stance of your 8g

[Mike_Rom]

Not bad!! I like it

[ricky_db]

Not bad!! I like it
dam rite not bad. lol

[VIPtint]

alright guys im actually going to finish my galant, but on a mean budget. oh and i sold the evo swap. i still have the parts for the 5spd swap if anyone wants them in socal.

im just gonna slam it on some 18" 15 offset wheels and clean it up, put all my chrome goodies back on and let my girl drive it. i'll post up pics. i got bored and put all the jdm stuff on a couple days ago.

[99 galant]

why do you go threw so many tires with your car like that?

[9G]

15 offset!!! wowz!

[platano]

why do you go threw so many tires with your car like that?

extreme VIP-style negative camber wears tires out much quicker because of the contact patch in the inner most part of the tire. uneven wear. just think about it

[spdracr]

extreme VIP-style negative camber wears tires out much quicker because of the contact patch in the inner most part of the tire. uneven wear. just think about it

i love my negative camber :) but i dont drive the car often so i dont care :D

[platano]

i love my negative camber :) but i dont drive the car often so i dont care :D

id like to see exactly what camber/stance ur workin with on a galant. got pics?

[keta11]

clean...is that the vrg bumper ? the black one

[nokcy21]

yup VRG bumper on both of them

[VIPtint]

yup VRG bumper on both of them

wow your car looks good. what are your wheels specs if you dont mind me asking. i should be picking up a wheel this week for test fitting.

SSR Vienna 19x8 and 19x9 +35 forget it i found them

[VIPtint]

alright wheels coming in today, i already got my struts out for the test fitting. ill post picks of the poke in a couple of hours when they come in

[nokcy21]

ok so you found the size lol. cant wait to see your G bro, defenitely gonna look like your Gs.

[ricky_db]

Can't wait to see if it tucks^^

[VIPtint]

theyre not my scaras but a very cheap wheel

18x8 +15


front lowered but w/o camber
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9954/picture045br7.jpg
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/7067/picture043el8.jpg
rear raised gonna need a 5-10mm spacer
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/359/picture047xd1.jpg

[lonestar22]

thats how my fronts looked before i got a tire on it, one u do and lower it it will change alot.

i can already tell this car is gonna be one of my favorites on TGC, someone finally seeing what wheels can really fit on these cars

[VIPtint]

the thing is that the front is already propped up with a jack. i pulled the springs out of the struts. when i add some camber it should fit flush. to get the rear flush i will add a spacer and camber it to match the front. should be good to go as soon as i can figure out the cheapest way to get as low as possible in the front.

[ricky_db]

Damn I thought it would tuck in the back . Oh well I guess its
back to lookin for high offsets

[lonestar22]

it will tuck, thats why he's talking about adding camber

if u dont want to go with the skunk2 route you could find some cheap tein basics out there that would probably get your car low enough

[VIPtint]

i dont want them to tuck. imma stretch the tire to almost tuck, but the wheel will have a poke outwards

[VIPtint]

like this pic but not sooooo extreme
http://i38.tinypic.com/11qtfn7.jpg

[Ruslik]

now that i just dont like

[9G]

thats just gay.

[Jeffylou87]

That's crazy..

[VIPtint]

gotta do what i gotta do to get a fat step lip on a fwd car

[ricky_db]

8) yea boy

[lonestar22]

slammed and poked
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v492/woody62189/pictures/wheels027.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/uberdork13/plainpic3.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a66/rabbitVR28/Kody0512.jpg

and last but not least
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b181/hotsauce_/mikem01eh2.jpg

[VIPtint]

mine will be like this but the front and rear will poke like the jettas rear
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/uberdork13/plainpic3.jpg

[732Galant]

that just seams like throwing money away with the way the tires will wear

[VIPtint]

yeah but our other 2 cars are running about -6 degrees camber. the galant wont be that bad
http://a174.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/64/l_63cc98616bee1f592aa2409aaa9bab9d.jpg
http://a672.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/103/l_890c9852fe1f832c56d2c213361f8baf.jpg

[lonestar22]

that just seams like throwing money away with the way the tires will wear

if we were worried about that we'd keep our cars stock

[VIPtint]

honestly it does suck cuz my falken sponsorship just ended. so now i have to buy my tires retail. but we can run hankooks for pretty cheap. they stretch pretty good

[greddy]

if we were worried about that we'd keep our cars stock
Yeah, for sure

[nokcy21]

we have no worries thats why our cars arent stock, thinking about changing tires also,strecthing the tires lol,

[VIPtint]

if anyone is interested in some NICE wheels that will fit like nokcy21's here they are
http://vipstylecars.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12482

i wanted to pick these these u but wanted step lips

[platano]

i dont want them to tuck. imma stretch the tire to almost tuck, but the wheel will have a poke outwards

if you actually manage to get that fitment, please share the wealth. i've been trying to go with that slightly protruding step lip on my G but everyone tells me that i'm insane and its no way.

[VIPtint]

yeah i know, thats why im doing it

[VIPtint]

alright the mean camber is to help tuck the biggest lip you can. if you add a huge lip on a car it will stick out like in my pics on page 4 i think. so in order to get them to come closer to the fenders you just add camber.

watch; when my rear is done w/o spacers, it will come close to tucking. but i dont want it to tuck so i will be adding a spacer for the poked look.

[lonestar22]

if you actually manage to get that fitment, please share the wealth. i've been trying to go with that slightly protruding step lip on my G but everyone tells me that i'm insane and its no way.

galant forums are made up of mostly people that want to look different but still have their cars run like stock. thats why u see so many people with 18x7.5 45 offset wheels and 225/40/18 tires. thats also why u dont see any slammed galants, theyre all lowered only a few inches because most owners want the stock ride

[VIPtint]

dont worry i will post all pics and list all mods and prices. right now im waiting on:
camber kits
struts
springs

then ill take pics, then ill go to paint then take more pics.

the build is pretty cheap, but to be honest i doubt many will do it because the car wont drive too well. at least i think. i hope it drives good.

the way nocky21 looks really good for daily driven and nice comfortability. if he wanted to he could stretch the tire a little more and add some spacers, but that would hinder his turning radius. i dont care too much about turning radius, but i didnt want to spend too much on wheels and tires. if i did i woulda jumped on the estatus wheels that i posted up.

ive been wanting to do this build for a long time but never got to it. right now isnt the best time for me to be doing this but F it. it will only total $1250 for everything. i need paint though which will be extra.

[VIPtint]

these are the wheels i got, in black though. i wanted stepped lips cuz our other cars have them, and they look hella aggressive when rolling
http://adaptivestrategies.com/XXR_style_512_Scion.jpg

[nokcy21]

hey bro cant wait to see the pics of the car! keep it up rim look good

[VIPtint]

UPDATE:
camber kits installed. fitment is perfect. rear wont be a problem cuz the front is good.
before:
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9954/picture045br7.jpg
after:
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3755/picture048vc8.jpg
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/3006/picture049fm4.jpg
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/5624/picture050cf7.jpg

[njjfudge]

WOW! I want to see it when you are finished.

[9G]

Yup!

[RedGalant2k1]

UPDATE:
camber kits installed. fitment is perfect. rear wont be a problem cuz the front is good.
before:
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9954/picture045br7.jpg
after:
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3755/picture048vc8.jpg
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/3006/picture049fm4.jpg
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/5624/picture050cf7.jpg

Just how do you figure the rear won't be a problem because the front is good? You do realize these cars are a lot more difficult a fitment in the rear right?

[VIPtint]

well the rear actually cambers when you lower it. the front doesnt cuz it has a macpherson style strut which doesnt utalize an upper control arm. also the rear has a lot more room for a wider wheel. so with the stock camber of being slammed plus the camber kit im adding, i should have room to run a 5-10mm spacer to get it to fit just like the fronts. im not posative but im pretty sure. i dont have as much camber adjustment for the rear but im hoping.

[VIPtint]

look how much room is in the rear compared to the front. notice the mild camber in the rear and almost none in the front. this is what should allow me to add a spacer in the rear and still sit HELLA FLUSH
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/gqgalant/DSCN1505.jpg

[qnz]

well the rear actually cambers when you lower it. the front doesnt cuz it has a macpherson style strut which doesnt utalize an upper control arm. also the rear has a lot more room for a wider wheel. so with the stock camber of being slammed plus the camber kit im adding, i should have room to run a 5-10mm spacer to get it to fit just like the fronts. im not posative but im pretty sure. i dont have as much camber adjustment for the rear but im hoping.

is adding a 5mm spacer the same as using a wheel with -5 less offset? if so, why not just buy the wheel with less offset to begin with?

[RedGalant2k1]

well the rear actually cambers when you lower it. the front doesnt cuz it has a macpherson style strut which doesnt utalize an upper control arm. also the rear has a lot more room for a wider wheel. so with the stock camber of being slammed plus the camber kit im adding, i should have room to run a 5-10mm spacer to get it to fit just like the fronts. im not posative but im pretty sure. i dont have as much camber adjustment for the rear but im hoping.

Without sounding condescending, I fully understand what happens when lowering a vehicle, especially ours. The rear in my experience has much less room to fit properly. I'm running 19x8 +40mm Motegi's wrapped with 235/35-19 BFGs. I rub at stock height. Infact its literally 3mm (at most) away from the rear knuckle, you can't get one finger between the tire and knuckle. Not saying it can't be done, it obviously can be. But I think you are underestimating the difficulty of the rear fitment.

Reelax is running 19x8.5" (+48mm) Volk wheels with 235/35-19 Nitto tires, and he would be rubbing in the rear except for the fact he cut out the rear fender lip for the wheel fitment. And thats with only a 8.5" wheel. Still with the fact that I rub at stock height with a 8" +40mm wheel.

If the wheel offset is low enough for a 9" or 9.5" wheel than you get far enough away from the suspension, but you still need to resolve the major fender clearance issues. I hope you can do it, and post up for all to see. I am the first to applaud your efforts, both because I love it when people try different things. And that I love the VIP look, good luck.

[SkylineG1]

You have my full support. Dave has been doing this for a long time so I think he has good point son this subject.

[nokcy21]

im running 19x9 +35 on the rear and my tires dosent rub at all roll the fender though. norm! did you use 2 bolts on the front for the camber? looking good, shipped the items already.

[lonestar22]

Without sounding condescending, I fully understand what happens when lowering a vehicle, especially ours. The rear in my experience has much less room to fit properly. I'm running 19x8 +40mm Motegi's wrapped with 235/35-19 BFGs. I rub at stock height. Infact its literally 3mm (at most) away from the rear knuckle, you can't get one finger between the tire and knuckle. Not saying it can't be done, it obviously can be. But I think you are underestimating the difficulty of the rear fitment.

Reelax is running 19x8.5" (+48mm) Volk wheels with 235/35-19 Nitto tires, and he would be rubbing in the rear except for the fact he cut out the rear fender lip for the wheel fitment. And thats with only a 8.5" wheel. Still with the fact that I rub at stock height with a 8" +40mm wheel.

If the wheel offset is low enough for a 9" or 9.5" wheel than you get far enough away from the suspension, but you still need to resolve the major fender clearance issues. I hope you can do it, and post up for all to see. I am the first to applaud your efforts, both because I love it when people try different things. And that I love the VIP look, good luck.

you didnt address to the fact that you are both sporting huge tires, yours are even larger than most since i guess those specific drag radials just run larger, i have the same setup as relax with a lower offset and i dont rub at all with a minor rear fender lip folding, they arent even folded all the way up and im lowered two inches back there.

[lonestar22]

is adding a 5mm spacer the same as using a wheel with -5 less offset? if so, why not just buy the wheel with less offset to begin with?

he might have not been able to find a wheel with such specs to begin with, and it always helps to have that flexibility just incase he doesnt want that low of an offset

[VIPtint]

yeah 2 bolts got that camber like you said.

with the small offset the knuckle is far away from rim/tire. the reason for rubbing issues is mostly tire size. and if you look at the rear quarter panel, the trim is fat like 1/2" and it kind of goes downward. my wheel lip to lip is almost 9 inches. and the tire is 8.07 inches wide. so the tire is almost an inch skinnier. leaving 1/2" on each side where the rim sticks out more that the tire. so rubbing should be minimal. i think i wont rub at all actually.

also how is an 8 +40 is 3mm away from the knuckle and 8.5 +48 doesnt rub. you know how... tire specs. theyre all different. also i will max out my factory camber and add as much that i can on the ingalls kit.

sometimes its all trial and error. on paper none of the dubs (VW's) should fit either but they do with reason. you just lose some driving ability. i am willing to lose it on my car for looks and originality.

also im like 95% sure i can fit a spacer but it all depends on the camber. if it doesnt work i may bore out and reinforce lower control arm mounts to add more camber and still use a spacer. adding a sacer is key to me cuz if i dont the fronts will be flusher than the rear. and thats backwards.

[VIPtint]

is adding a 5mm spacer the same as using a wheel with -5 less offset? if so, why not just buy the wheel with less offset to begin with?

yeah i wish but then i would have had to buy either a staggered set or a used set of customs. first i wanted a step lip. second im on a budget. third they dont come staggered, fourth you cant find cheap stepped li wheels. if i coulda got a cheap set of wheels with stepped lips and i could choose my offset it would be over. my fiotment would be perfect without having to mess with so much stuff. but hey i couldnt pass up the deal on these wheels. you guys can look around they are cheap ass hell. and i got them even cheaper.

[VIPtint]

anyways tires and springs should be in this week so we may see the result pretty soon. i havent ordered the spacer yet though. and i dont know if i want to roll or cut fenders. roll would be better but idk yet.

[nokcy21]

i rolled my fender but i think if you cut it youll get more room cant wait to see it bro.
now im thinking about buying some new set of tires "strecth it also LOL"

[silver01g]

so tires can actually be strecthed? i always heard about that but never really never about it, so whats a commen tire size that gets strecthed?

[platano]

yeah tires can be stretched but its just not recomended because its unsafe.

[platano]

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/gqgalant/DSCN1505.jpg

damn that is killin me! where can i get that rear bumper! everyplace i find only sells a 'rear lip' that looks like that. :smt093:smt093:smt093

[dwjp90]

i think it is a lip, look at the gap.

[dwjp90]

imho streched tires looks eww. i think the fatter the tire (to a limit) the better it looks

[fatal1]

i think it is a lip, look at the gap.

im pretty sure that is a full bumper, it looks to be one pice and if you look closely you can see that it slightly overhangs the rear wheel well much like the cyber 2 reat does

[beam514]

actually to me it looks like the cyber 2 rear bumper with a lip. You can kinda see the cut out in the middle section like on the cyber 2 rear. but i dunno. I don't know the aftermarket body kits too well

[Reelax]

you didnt address to the fact that you are both sporting huge tires, yours are even larger than most since i guess those specific drag radials just run larger, i have the same setup as relax with a lower offset and i dont rub at all with a minor rear fender lip folding, they arent even folded all the way up and im lowered two inches back there.

sorry LONESTAR, we do not have the same setup. one thing that makes my fitament so tight to the fender is that i am camber CORRECTED at all four corners (i was tired of buying tires every few months) and dropped around 3" (about as low as anyone has gone without going to bags)... everybody else this low or lower is running negative camber and that's why my fenders had to be cut out. i could probably run 10mm, maybe even 20mm spacers if i added in some negative camber and dropped down to 225 tires (or stretched 215's). if i was motivated to go all out (been thinking about it), i might go wider w/ a lower offset on another set of stupid expensive wheels (and they would be 20's), but i would have to go to bags, and sacrifice the high levels of handling that i currently enjoy (the few times a month that i do drive my car).

[lonestar22]

sorry LONESTAR, we do not have the same setup. one thing that makes my fitament so tight to the fender is that i am camber CORRECTED at all four corners (i was tired of buying tires every few months) and dropped around 3" (about as low as anyone has gone without going to bags)... everybody else this low or lower is running negative camber and that's why my fenders had to be cut out. i could probably run 10mm, maybe even 20mm spacers if i added in some negative camber and dropped down to 225 tires (or stretched 215's). if i was motivated to go all out (been thinking about it), i might go wider w/ a lower offset on another set of stupid expensive wheels (and they would be 20's), but i would have to go to bags, and sacrifice the high levels of handling that i currently enjoy (the few times a month that i do drive my car).


i didnt know u were camber corrected, that explains alot

[RAZ_76]

i think it is a lip, look at the gap.


I had that bumper, it's fiberglass and it's one piece. It is not a lip, even though it says it is.

http://www.andysautosport.com/mitsubishi/1999_2003_galant/exterior/body_kits/vision_auto/visi00092402.html

[VIPtint]

airunner suspension isnt that great for aggressive driving. its more of a luxury comfort setup. if you want it for aggressive i would recommend just putting a uas bag over you coilover strut, or running canovers. canovers is the best for aggressive driving. they are meant to be driven uninflated. then if you need to raise it for a particular reason you air it up. the thing is they ride like shit airred up.

[VIPtint]

uas
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:GxJUh1_FY0lyGM:http://www.oznium.com/gallery/photos/full/4437.jpg
canover
http://og-made.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/skipper.jpg
the metal cup airs up so you can go over dips, driveways, speed bumps, etc.

[9G]

i want some airrunners! to expensive though!

[RAZ_76]

Can you buy individual parts or is this Airrunner as a kit only??

[VIPtint]

airrunner comes as a kit. u can piece together a uas kit using either your stock struts, upgraded struts, or your coilover struts.

[RAZ_76]

airrunner comes as a kit. u can piece together a uas kit using either your stock struts, upgraded struts, or your coilover struts.

Well I want something like airrunner not uas bags but I want to piece together like the compressor, lines, pressure switches etc. I just need the bags from that air runner kit. How would I do that?

[RedGalant2k1]

yeah 2 bolts got that camber like you said.

with the small offset the knuckle is far away from rim/tire. the reason for rubbing issues is mostly tire size. and if you look at the rear quarter panel, the trim is fat like 1/2" and it kind of goes downward. my wheel lip to lip is almost 9 inches. and the tire is 8.07 inches wide. so the tire is almost an inch skinnier. leaving 1/2" on each side where the rim sticks out more that the tire. so rubbing should be minimal. i think i wont rub at all actually.

also how is an 8 +40 is 3mm away from the knuckle and 8.5 +48 doesnt rub. you know how... tire specs. theyre all different. also i will max out my factory camber and add as much that i can on the ingalls kit.

sometimes its all trial and error. on paper none of the dubs (VW's) should fit either but they do with reason. you just lose some driving ability. i am willing to lose it on my car for looks and originality.

also im like 95% sure i can fit a spacer but it all depends on the camber. if it doesnt work i may bore out and reinforce lower control arm mounts to add more camber and still use a spacer. adding a sacer is key to me cuz if i dont the fronts will be flusher than the rear. and thats backwards.

Well, Reelax has aftermarket suspension also, knowing that the knuckle isn't replaced my guess its either different than the 02+ Galants, or GTZ. Thats besides the fact that the coilover assembly probably draws the knuckle up and in slightly giving up some extra clearance.

I guarentee that if you took his wheels and tried to fit them on my G unless it had 215s they wouldn't fit...period.

[VIPtint]

you may be right but idk.

about the airrunner, if youre serious about getting different setups i would just go UAS. airrunner may get pricey. my kit was all upgraded stuff and it wasnt cheap. our q was built with the standard kit. however i havent had 1 single problem with our airrunners.

[VIPtint]

no pics yet but idk if the ingalls kit will give me enough camber. so i may be building some rear upper control arms with built in camber adjustments. i got the front to camber really good and i want the back to match

[demon69eyes]

nice vip look..i have a friend here with that kind of taste of look.but he has 19's rollin with a chrome lips style.isnt that vip look too?

[VIPtint]

ok pulled rear struts, installed camber kit (which by the way took a while, and used some grinding) and test fitted the wheels. i will need a 15mm spacer to get it to fit like the front. you could rock my wheel in the rear with just a drop, camber kit, and slight roll of the fender. ill post pics tomorrow

[VIPtint]

15mm spacer will get it pretty flush. just gotta find some for cheap
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/892/picture054ib1.jpg
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/918/picture051zb7.jpg

[nokcy21]

looking good

[RedGalant2k1]

So far so good. I'm interested to know the clearance between the wheel and tire and the rear upper control arm.

[VIPtint]

a whole bunch of room between the two

[lonestar22]

cant wait to see it on the ground with stretched tires. id keep it like that instead of adding spacers.

[VIPtint]

fitment confirmed. i will need a spacer for the rears to fit flush. i just ordered an 8mm set. i will post pics tomorrow at work. my cable is there. still have to figure how to get my car to ride decent though at this height.

[lonestar22]

lol cant wait to see it, have u gotten tires yet? what size did u go with?

[VIPtint]

been doing things 1 at a time, so that if it doesnt work im not out of a lot of money so i only got 1 installed. but ive been moving the wheel around for specs. tire is nangkang as1 205/40/18, skinniest 18 tire made 8.07" wide
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3605/picture062ou7.jpg
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/2955/picture055fq1.jpg
and heres the clearance from the rear knuckle/spindle in the rear
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/6706/picture056vb4.jpg

[lonestar22]

nice, is that as low as the front is going to be?

[VIPtint]

i hope so. imma try the shortened koni inserts that reelax recommended. if i run it like this the struts will bottom out like crazy. if that doesnt work i may have to lift the front a little. maybe bags, maybe air runners, but remember im trying to do a budget build.

[nokcy21]

let me know if those coni inserts work, im thinking about getting them.

[9G]

daym! nice fit!

[Reelax]

i hope so. imma try the shortened koni inserts that reelax recommended. if i run it like this the struts will bottom out like crazy. if that doesnt work i may have to lift the front a little. maybe bags, maybe air runners, but remember im trying to do a budget build.

you may also want to have RRE relocate the spring perch if possible so that you can run more coils and still be slammed. looking at your pics, the front is only sitting a little lower than mine... i am running coilovers which include shortened body dampers, but i'm also running a much biger tire... NITTO INVO 235/35r19. i probably can only lower 1/2" more before i run out of threads on the adjustable perches. if you don't have enough room for springs, it might just have to be bags, conventional coils, even full coilovers w/ short body dampers, can only go so low. the EASY STREET kit is a cheaper alternative to going full blown AIR RUNNER.

here's some pics taht show my front clearance for reference:

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff8/ooreelaxoo/vertwheel.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff8/ooreelaxoo/mod07jalopnik1.jpg

o yeah and you definitely need to roll/fold/cut the rear fenders so that you can push the wheel out even more in the rear... the rear flushness is the key in what you are going for. i think from looking at the pics, that you can go w/ a 15mm-20mm spacer back there if you run enough negative camber and cut/fold the rear fender lips out (since the 205 tire is giving you plenty of clearance). thank god our rear wheels don't need to steer, but mitsu didn't have to make the front wells THAT much bigger!

[bignasty]

Question: Can an Air ride system work without compressors? I really love my trunk. I love my stereo. I have no love for compressors or air tanks. Can a person just run the bags and manually pump them up with a air compressor? i know you will loose the up and down at well feature, but i am only concern with smooth ride at the height i prefer. Is it possible? And where do you get the parts to built the fill port at?

[VIPtint]

canover air is what you need. its a coilover strut with a small cup that holds air when you go over dips and bumps. but you normally drive on just the coilover and air up when needed. you get a very small box which contains the tank and compressor. about the size of a 10" sub box.

i wish i had the $$$$ to go full coils struts or air, but budgeting this build and damn slow at the shop. i think ill be okay right now. if not ill throw the guy @ club3g an offer. his price is way too high right now. also the ingalls camber is maxed right now. so i think a 8mm is all i can push. if i had money i would have my buddy build my custom control arms. the only expensive part would be the heim joints. id want some good ones and id have to buy 6. good ones run between 20-100 each and i wouldnt want to go cheap on those.

as soon as i get the spacers and my grinder working ill have them all on and ill post up pics. hopefully late this week or early next week.

[Galante]

15mm spacer will get it pretty flush. just gotta find some for cheap
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/892/picture054ib1.jpg
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/918/picture051zb7.jpg

I wonder where do you have to put the spacers?

[Galante]

you may also want to have RRE relocate the spring perch if possible so that you can run more coils and still be slammed. looking at your pics, the front is only sitting a little lower than mine... i am running coilovers which include shortened body dampers, but i'm also running a much biger tire... NITTO INVO 235/35r19. i probably can only lower 1/2" more before i run out of threads on the adjustable perches. if you don't have enough room for springs, it might just have to be bags, conventional coils, even full coilovers w/ short body dampers, can only go so low. the EASY STREET kit is a cheaper alternative to going full blown AIR RUNNER.

here's some pics taht show my front clearance for reference:

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff8/ooreelaxoo/vertwheel.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff8/ooreelaxoo/mod07jalopnik1.jpg

o yeah and you definitely need to roll/fold/cut the rear fenders so that you can push the wheel out even more in the rear... the rear flushness is the key in what you are going for. i think from looking at the pics, that you can go w/ a 15mm-20mm spacer back there if you run enough negative camber and cut/fold the rear fender lips out (since the 205 tire is giving you plenty of clearance). thank god our rear wheels don't need to steer, but mitsu didn't have to make the front wells THAT much bigger!

Is the EGR visor colored match the car?

[Reelax]

Is the EGR visor colored match the car?

yes, on both sides and clear coated. twice... this is the second color the car has been painted.

[Galante]

Nice man. I'm gonna have to get mine painted too.

[ShiZnitH]

I got huge problems turning my wheels when standing downhill or turn fast when braking. I feel sorry for my tires :lol:

[VIPtint]

ok rear fitment w/ 8mm spacer
OOOH NASTY
http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/3707/camerapics062hi5.jpg
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/5556/camerapics063ck9.jpg

[skyhigh90210]

Nice, I'm liking it.

[lonestar22]

u should make a separate build thread for this

[VIPtint]

i should huh?

[greddy]

yep, you should

[ShiZnitH]

That looks HOT :D

[nokcy21]

looking good bro! if those rims on the rear are wider it would be SICK but still looks tight.

[VIPtint]

yup. if you look at it from right behind the car you can tell they are skinny. only part that sux. but hey im goin cheap on this ride

[VIPtint]

ok all four corners dropped and wheels on
http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/5213/camerapics069vu5.jpg
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/9673/camerapics068xo1.jpg
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1572/camerapics067tn5.jpg
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/4719/camerapics066jl7.jpg
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/495/camerapics065qz1.jpg

[greddy]

ok all four corners dropped and wheels on
http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/5213/camerapics069vu5.jpg[/URL]

Damn ,that looks fantastic, what did you use to drop it so low?

[Mike_Rom]

hmm.. interesting

[VIPtint]

nokcy21 hooked me up with some cut progress springs that he had. the ride isnt that bad at all. but i have only about an inch of travel on the fronts so it bottoms out pretty easily. i cut the bump stop down to just the last rib so it doesnt hit that bad

[IceDouTGaLanT]

that think looks bad ass!! Now just the cancer paint has to go

[greddy]

nokcy21 hooked me up with some cut progress springs that he had. the ride isnt that bad at all. but i have only about an inch of travel on the fronts so it bottoms out pretty easily. i cut the bump stop down to just the last rib so it doesnt hit that bad

No rubbing?

BTW, is that an R34 skyline in the background of the 3rd picture from the top?

[VIPtint]

heres the problem though. at this height the toe in is massive and i dont think there is enough adjustability for the rear. the front can be corrected no problems but idk about the rear.

[silver01g]

Are you going with the JDM sides as well, along with the a JDM rear bumper? looks real sweet cant wait to see it painted, keeping it black? i love the front, but the back i dont know there's just something about it that makes it look funny to me. i think like nokcy21 said if the rear were wider to would look better. but hey for now it looks beautiful. keep it up man.

[VIPtint]

just leaving it as is but will paint it black in a couple of weeks. i had the svr4 front lips and i still have a set of svr4 sides, but i dont want to install them. i may put a chrome muffler on and thats it. yeah i wish the wheels were wider in the rear

[Sillyasianz]

Drool......


ok all four corners dropped and wheels on
http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/5213/camerapics069vu5.jpg
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/9673/camerapics068xo1.jpg
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1572/camerapics067tn5.jpg
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/4719/camerapics066jl7.jpg
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/495/camerapics065qz1.jpg

[4g63lover]

Drool......

damn, its been long since you been here. lol.

[Sillyasianz]

im still around. I was about to get another galant. But my ls400 is mechanically so sound it would be a waste to sell it. So I updated my ls400 page with new pics :)

But i will have another G, one day. Always good to keep in touch with the TGC family, with or without a G.

[4g63lover]

im still around. I was about to get another galant. But my ls400 is mechanically so sound it would be a waste to sell it. So I updated my ls400 page with new pics :)

But i will have another G, one day. Always good to keep in touch with the TGC family, with or without a G.


well, nice to have you back around brother.

[nokcy21]

damn looks bad ass!!!! just put the skirts bro before you get it painted. lovin' it.

[Alexey]

Damn, that looks good!

[audio_uphoria]

SICK. Post pics when you paint it and tell us what paint you used.

[galantgtz36]

i dont know if my car would be considered VIP. rolling it with 19x8 WORK
EUROLINES like on the blue G. :D

what are the sizes of those wheels and tires? any rubbing issues at all? i want to lower my car.... any help will be appreciated.

[Sillyasianz]

VIP is only recognized on true VIP platforms in Japan. Your is clean, at best your vip inspired. BUT I love your car. That was the plan for my old car. Even the wheels. *thumbs up*

[nokcy21]

hey sillyasianz the rims on your Lexus looks familiar,LOL. looks good whats the size

[VIPtint]

yeah dre i saw your ride on the so cal thread. too bad i couldnt make it to that one, cant do sat meets

[Sillyasianz]

hey sillyasianz the rims on your Lexus looks familiar,LOL. looks good whats the size

https://www.thegalantcenter.org/showthread.php?t=32498