kia valve cover problem?

[duh2150]

well i put my new valve cover on the kai head i got in my room all the bolts line up perfectly but i saw this

a gap between the hte sensor housing and the valve cover? is thewre something missing? or can i just put in the gap or something?

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e202/duh2150/Picture170.jpg

[Divinity]

Don't you dare drill any holes in that thing lol

[Shadow19]

cant tell from the pics.. so im gonna ask.... is the gasket still in the vc?

[DNSerrano]

Hmmm, I don't see a gasket in there, so maybe when you put one on it might seal up the gap

[Shadow19]

Hmmm, I don't see a gasket in there, so maybe when you put one on it might seal up the gap

Exactly what im thinking myself.

[duh2150]

the gasket is on it its on the bottom rim of the valve cover, thats what i thought but if i move the cover that direction none of the bolts will lines up

[DNSerrano]

The most drastic thing would be to put some, I mean a small amount some, of liquid gasket on that corner then, UNLESS they sell some kind of a seal for that part of the head

[duh2150]

yeah thast what i dont understand, the head i took it off of didnt even have that gap, or did it?

[duh2150]

underrated could you take me a pic of your piece?

[duh2150]

theres a piece that lines up but its like 2 or 3 mm off the block on the other side, il ltry and upload later, is it possible to have the wrong valve cover? the botls lien up and everything its jsut the side for some wierd reason?, still looking for help!

[Divinity]

Just wondering.... have you put the bolts back in it yet and tightened the to spec?

[Shadow19]

my valve cover has almost the same gap as that all the way around.... the valve cover gasket makes it that way.... if the whole valve cover is sitting flush on top of the head.. im pretty sure youve over torqued them.. the bolts are just a little more than hand tight.......

[WarmAndSCSI]

my valve cover has almost the same gap as that all the way around.... the valve cover gasket makes it that way.... if the whole valve cover is sitting flush on top of the head.. im pretty sure youve over torqued them.. the bolts are just a little more than hand tight.......

He hasn't even torqued anything yet...

[duh2150]

its not about torqued down its say to big of a gap even if they were bolted down i could take off the gasket and bolted it down and itll be closer but itll stil lnot even touch loo kat the pic the gasket wont touch that eve if it was torqued or not becasue it comes out, the gasket goes in the under rim of the valve cover not the outer rim lol

[DNSerrano]

Hmm, I replied to your PM in Galants.org but I will post it up here, the head is from a 2002, the 3rd Gen Hyundai Sonata that makes 149hp. The one with the projectors

[duh2150]

yeah, maby i got a way newer valve cover, or they did something in the other years or somthing, when i looked at the engine, i was most positive that, it was the right engine, looks just like it and everything, so wtf lol, i ot my bro to go over there and recheck the year

[duh2150]

valve cover off kia optima made in 2004 sold in 2005, but looks like a 2006, wtf,, but vin number says its a 2001

[duh2150]

im so lost im gonan loo kat it tomarrow hopefully again

[Stewi]

Ok so looking at that pic you posted, I dont think their should be a problem. As long as the valve cover gasket seals against that surface. On my EVO head I have a gap too, granted its not that large, but its still a gap. I did some research and the sealant locations for liquid gasket on the valve cover are the same as the EVO, on both sides of the last cam cap on the T belt side and on the semi-circular block off plate at the end of the intake cam. If you need it, here is a link to the Kia Factory Service manual online, free. Dont be scurred about the language install thing, just say no, the manual is in english.

http://58.87.51.38/kme_viewer/

[duh2150]

i got a like 2 mm or 3mm gap over the cams at thend left my bro found a piece of liek rubber that goes over the right side, im supsoeing i havnt seen it yet, but i might have ot go there and take the gears off and get the left side maby theresa a half moon piece?

[duh2150]

here is the gap on the other side, i didnt feel like straighting it out but its the gap all the way around...

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e202/duh2150/IMG_0231.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e202/duh2150/IMG_0232.jpg

other then them 3 gabs 2 over the cams there and 1 next to the sensor part, it fits perfect..

[Stewi]

Hey do me a favor.

Post a pic of the head without the valve cover on, one pic overhead, one from each end. I wanna see something.

It doesnt look to me like the valve cover is wrong, it looks like the head is missing parts.

Looking at the end of the exhaust camshaft, that end seal is supposed to be sandwhiched between the head itself and the cam retainer cap. It looks like you dont have the cam retaining caps installed. That might be the reason you have caps all over.

Check these pics. Im talking about the pieces that go over the cam journals and are held in by two 12mm bolts. Look at the 2nd pic in the lower right corner, thats the cap for the exhaust cam where the cam sensor bolts up, notice it has a small lip on the edge that sticks out.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y83/EvoInside/2-3.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y83/EvoInside/2.jpg

[duh2150]

this thread is closed!!!!!!!!!! thanks to stewi, thansk stewi!, i didnt have my side clips in, after taking a look at them, witch i forgot to put in for the past while, because i always have to pry them off, when i put back in it fileld up all the gaps! :)

[Divinity]

You've failed again! :P

[WarmAndSCSI]

You've failed again! :P

Yep, Aaron is a moron :lol:

[duh2150]

yeah i am, imjsut crazy enoth to do tranny swap and engine builds wtf lol

[Stewi]

I have to admit when you posted the pic with the cam gear off, I said to myself. "WTF! is this guy out of his damn mind? if course there will be a gap, he is missing all the caps?"

Its OK tho, to this day I have done 4 five speed swaps not to mention taking my own engine and tranny out and apart numerous time, yet I still always manage to put the shifter cables on backwards. I always get into the car and try to put it in reverse and say "F*ck I did it again!" then I gotta spend 20 mins taking off my intercooler pipe, battery and tray, etc. etc.

[duh2150]

lol, thats great, but at least you remember what you did lol, only reason why they aint on there is becasue i always have to take them off, i gotten used to seeing them off i didnt even remember