beam514's 99 Galant: 3.5L Swap

[beam514]

Modifications:
[x] = installed
[p] = in the process of being installed
[$] = purchased, but collecting dust
[ ] = future part

Engine: total spent: $1000+ (replaced timing belt, water pump, pulleys, etc.)
[x] 3.5L 6G74 Swap <$450 + 80 gas/tax = $530>
[x] Diamante Intake Manifold and Throttle Body
[x] 6G74 injectors
[x] Modified stock intake piping w/ K&N <$80>
[x] Braille 11.5 lb Battery <$155>
[x] Prothane Motor Mounts <$80>

Transmission: total spent $1300 +
[x] F5M51 5-speed manual transmission <$600>
[x] OEM Resurfaced Flywheel <$86>
[x] shifter assembly
[x] used shifter cables
[x] Aluminum shift knob <$23>
[x] shift boot (doesn't fit too well)
[x] SPEC stage 1 clutch kit <$327>
[x] slave cylinder (also have an extra one)
[x] master cylinder <$27>
[x] transmission mount
[x] hydraulic lines <$90>
[x] Manual Starter Locator Plate
[x] intermediate shaft <$150>
[x] clutch pedal
[x] Pennzoil Synchromesh

Exhaust: total spent $187
[x] MagnaFlow Universal Muffler - 14827 Street Series <$127 + $60 labor = $187>

Handling/Suspension: total spent $825 +
[x] Progress lowering springs <$70> (great deal from BGR)
[x] KYB-AGX shocks/struts <$400>
[x] RMR 24mm Rear Stabilizer Bar <$185>
[x] Do-it-Center rear camber "kit" (grade 10.9 bolts) <$20>
[$] COMPLX rear tie bar <$150>
[$] COMPLX front adjustable end links
[$] OEM 3G Eclipse GT Strut Tower Bar (doesn't fit with my 6G74 TB. will fit after 5 speed swap) <$50>
[x] Power Steering delete

Wheels and Tires: total spent ~$1000
[x] Candy Purple Enkei RPF1's, 17x8 +45
[x] OEM Eclipse GT wheels painted bronze <$225 + $30 in paint = $255> old
[x] Yokohama Avid W4S - 215/50/R17 <$725>

Exterior
[x] SEIBON EVO style Carbon Fiber hood <$150>
[x] 98-01 Integra Spoon Lip <$60>
[x] DDM Tuning Slim Ballast 4500K H4 hi/low kit <$50>
[$] Erebuni 384 (I think) style sideskirts <$60>
[ ] Cyber Legnum rear lip

Audio: total spent $200
[x] Kenwood Headunit and Infinity Reference speakers <$200>

All work, besides welding, has been done by me, with the help of my dad and some friends as an extra set of hands
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Well I finally feel like posting some pics up of my car. Its basically stock but whatever. Today I was finally able to take out the lower dash (thanks 99galant) and I got some paintin done and I think I'll be up all night finishing :D

Well here you go:

World's biggest wheel gap
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/3103/img0020cr1.jpg

Here's what my interior is like right now:
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/8930/img0055ie5.jpg

two completely different screws?? I think they ran out of the same kind when they were puttin in the glove box latch:
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/3646/img0056cx4.jpg

and I'll post more pics later!

[Ivory8g]

holy crap dont think my g was that high stock 0_o

[beam514]

yea that wheel gap really kills me :(

[Reeses]

..... I'm hoping your working on the inside cause damn.. Its all torn up! :D Looking nice on the outside though.. Nice and clean.

[AVERAGE]

Very clean,man. Lets get that dash back in. What are you doing to it by the way?

[beam514]

paintin it black :D

[Kalamidad]

that's a big first project man. But if you have help, it shouldn't be too desasterous have fun and good luck. Bring on the new pics, i wanna see!

[beam514]

well I'm pretty much done:
http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/8514/img0077up3.jpg

I know the clear coat looks really cloudy and looks like it sucks, but it's really not that bad in person
I still have quite a ways to go on my learning curve of clearcoating though :(

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/8045/img0095eg5.jpg
The little cubby thing is back in now too

just in case anyone was curious, i used Krylon Fusion gloss black first (the store didn't carry the flat black), then some coats of normal Krylon "ultra-flat" black, then regular-gloss Krylon acrylic clear coat, and no I didn't wet sand the clear coat
I might end up removing it all again someday and respraying and reclearing. Next time I'll be able to remove everything faster too. This only took like a day for me to do I just didn't have time to post pics

now time to find something else work on 8-)

[864Galant]

wow that looks great!! paint the vents and such too while your at it...

[beam514]

I think I'm trying to avoid paintin the vents cause that middle one is a pain in the ass to get out

[Distort]

I think I'm trying to avoid paintin the vents cause that middle one is a pain in the ass to get out

Not really... pop out your radio and there's two clips at the bottom of the vent.

[beam514]

hmm i may try that tomorrow thanks

[fatal1]

the vents you just pry out, looks like it is foggy. if you use regular acrylic clear on the fusion paint it will either make it crack or not adhere to it hence that glazed look i suggest you redo it and either use no clear at all or make sure to buy the fusion clear

[beam514]

really?

what if theres a layer of normal Krylon paint on top of the fusion?
Also the glovebox is the thing that looks most glazed cause I tried to use satin clear on it and i messed up.. although i used that on the door armrests and those came out perfect. But with the glove box, radio bezel, and shifter bezel I didn't use Fusion cause though I actually sanded and prepped

[Shadow19]

You need to go to walmart. Get some rubbing compound in a green tub made by turtle wax and rub the shit out of all of what you just painted. The overspray isnt to appealing BUT good job!

[djflex167]

damn that wheel gap reminds me of my ex 99 galant! hope u lower it soon!! and nice picz by the way!

[beam514]

actually in that pic the wheel gap is kind of exaggerated cause I parked on a slope with that fender facing uphill and its slanting diagonally across the car. I dunno about lowering anytime soon as I don't feel like droppin $500 right now (possibly saving for a 5 speed swap ;-))

[beam514]

just washed a couple days ago and a couple birds decided they wanted to bomb my car so :(
but here's a pic after the wash:
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/5409/img0365bb5.jpg

and here's a some-what teaser of my plans for the G this summer:
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/9710/img0395bi6.jpg

[remarque]

You dont have to take the vents out to paint them, I just spray painted them in the car. Did the same for the upper dash also.

[beam514]

oh yea forgot to say,

a 6g72 isn't going on that stand :twisted:

[beam514]

Okay so I am finally trying to do my 6g74 swap.. but one of the water pump mounting bolts decided to break on the 74.. soo need to get that out and finish the timing belt job on that

and I can't get these damn axles out..

[wright06jhs]

You dont have to take the vents out to paint them, I just spray painted them in the car. Did the same for the upper dash also.


You have got to be kidding me...What about overspray?


Car is looking good.

[00galantguy]

You have got to be kidding me...What about overspray?


x2

[AVERAGE]

You must be a helluva prep guy. So you taped off the windshield; laid stuff on the seats, etc?

[M-Rod]

So Adrian.... how is this going? Is the 3.0 out yet?

[beam514]

what is all this shit in my thread? haha

and yes the 3.0 was out as of 3:00-ish today. Only took 3 of us, two of them no automotive experience (my dad and my friend.. thats a girl haha)

Removal really wasn't that bad except the front exhaust manifold got stuck to the pipe below and we didn't realize at first so the engine was angling weird, BUT.. when we finally corrected that we didn't even need a load stabilizer to tilt the engine. With the transmission, the whole assembly tilts at the perfect angle for removal.

here's some pics:
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/7-10-09018.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/7-10-09025.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/7-10-09019.jpg
yeap that's me. I'm a youngin

I have some video's too but this computer doesn't like to load them correctly so I'll put them up later

[beam514]

Okay guys, the 74 is mated to the automatic transmission, so they are ready to be dropped in tomorrow (Thursday)
I'll see how much wiring up and such I can complete after dropping it in. My hopes are to have it running by Saturday

[beam514]

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/7-16-09008.jpg

6g74 is in. Gonna start plugging everything back in.

[stvn_mj]

That looks good bro. What are your plans for it?

[wright06jhs]

Seems that is going well. Your going to love that 74 :D I know i do in my Eclipse and it is too an automatic.

How many miles on the 6G74?

[jimmy_o2]

Wow give u Props man sure coming along great

[beam514]

Seems that is going well. Your going to love that 74 :D I know i do in my Eclipse and it is too an automatic.

How many miles on the 6G74?

it has 69,000 miles on it. Are you using the stock 6G72 injectors or did you tune for the 275's?

stvn_mj: I don't know my future plans for it yet really. For now I'm just hoping it starts and runs okay haha. I would eventually like to be able to tune for the 275 injectors, but that means swapping ECU's as my 1999 is not flash able. Problem is if I switch to a 2001 ECU or the like, then I'll get a code after doing the 5 speed swap (which is for sure happening in the future). Can't have codes here in cali :(

[stvn_mj]

Well good luck. Seeing all these v6 swaps makes me wish I had a v6.

[Way Fast Galant]

looking good man, i cant wait to tear into my G like that and swap motors. cant wait to hear that thing running.

[DOHCstunr]

looks great man! Gotta love the "rite of passage" smiling from inside the engine bay shot.
I think i have a few of those lol.

The '64 has got such a cooler sound over the 62. You can actually hear the stroke of the motor when you hit it WOT with a CAI.
(i made a custom CAI for my dad's old diamante)
they are so torque'y

[beam514]

okay guys I need some help. I know there's some people here that have done the swap

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/th_7-16-09010-1.jpg (http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/7-16-09010-1.jpg)
As you can see circled in yellow and green, there are two of those gold colored things (NO idea what these are called...). The green one is located on top of the TPS, the yellow is above where the throttle cable actually meets the TB. My 6g72 TB only has one of the gold things, so I'm not sure what's going on here. As far as I can tell, the one circled in green connects to the black box circled in red. I have no idea where the yellow one connects too though..

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/th_7-16-09012-1.jpg (http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/7-16-09012-1.jpg)
Also, on the back side of the manifold is this little one too. Not sure where that goes. Possibly connects to the gold thing circled in yellow?

[blue8g]

i wish i could tell ya but other than that issue it looks great!

[M-Rod]

What you have circled in red and yellow should connect to each other via vacuum hose. That is for your cruise control. The Green... not sure. My Diamante throttle body does not have that, but it looks as though you don't have an EGR Valve on the back of your plenum near the throttle body. What year is this engine again?

[wright06jhs]

it has 69,000 miles on it. Are you using the stock 6G72 injectors or did you tune for the 275's?

My 6G74 is running right now with the stock 6G72 injectors and stock 2000 ECU, with no CEL's or anything. It runs great and gets the same gas mileage as the 6G72 did but with more power :D . Without a tune you will still recognize the power difference between the motors, and you will be amazed. I do know tho you will see a much better power gain if you swap the 275's in and get a tune done.

I know for sure when i swap a 74 in my Stratus i'm not going to do it until i find someone to tune my car and can get both done at the same time. Im having such a hard time finding someone to tune my car in this area :(

I'm hoping for at least 200WHP because there's a guy on Club3g with a Stratus that is putting down 196WHP with the 6G72 with MR headers, Diamante MANI/TB, exhaust, Colder plugs/wires, CAI and a few other small things. So i'm sure with a good tune plus these few mods you can hit atleast the 200whp mark.

[beam514]

Matt this is a 2002, and there is an EGR valve on the back of the plenum, just can't see it in the picture. I really don't know what that little tube on the back is for though.. or the green one if you say the yellow connects to the red. On the 6g72 the red connected to a similar thing in the location of the green one (above the TPS) soo I'm not sure what to think of this just yet

[jimmy_o2]

have u asked tj or bj

[beam514]

I posted it on MP earlier this morning. BJ's TB only had one vacuum actuator IIRC.

anyway plugging everything back in and I ran in to one problem:
Back in SPD_FRK's thread I posted that both the IAC and TPS plugs on the Diamante TB were the same as those on the 6G72.. well I was wrong haha I guess the IAC was similar in shape, however it's different. Here are some pics:

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/th_7-18-09002.jpg (http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/7-18-09002.jpg) http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/th_7-18-09003.jpg (http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/7-18-09003.jpg)
6G72

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/th_7-18-09004.jpg (http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/7-18-09004.jpg) http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/th_7-18-09005.jpg (http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/7-18-09005.jpg)
Diamante

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/th_7-18-09006.jpg (http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/7-18-09006.jpg)
Lucky for me, the engine came with almost the complete harness hacked off (I guess they didn't want to unplug everything.. Also came with the alternator, AC, and power steering brackets. Guess I struck it rich haha). This is the Diamante plug connection.

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/th_7-18-09007.jpg (http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/7-18-09007.jpg)
6G72 plug connection connected to the harness

So I'm going to need to cut off the 6G72 plug connector and solder on the one from the Diamante. Just need to figure out the pins

[blue8g]

do work son!

[M-Rod]

I believe the 74 had slight differences over years and they went through a minor change (as far as the plenum and throttle body are concerned) in 2000 or so. Mine doesn't have the fitting you have circled in blue.

[wright06jhs]

I believe the 74 had slight differences over years and they went through a minor change (as far as the plenum and throttle body are concerned) in 2000 or so. Mine doesn't have the fitting you have circled in blue.

Im thinking the years they started changing a few things was 2002.

[Jeffylou87]

You should make a How To thread about doing this swap.. List of parts, where to get them, how much.. etc. It should be made a sticky if you do because there are plenty of people out there who have tons of questions about this swap..

[M-Rod]

You should make a How To thread about doing this swap.. List of parts, where to get them, how much.. etc. It should be made a sticky if you do because there are plenty of people out there who have tons of questions about this swap..

There really isn't much more involved than swapping in another 6g72. Depending on the year of the donor motor there is very little modification.

[beam514]

Jeffylou, Matt is totally correct. the 74 is essentially the same. I was surprised at how similar it is actually. Luckily, mine came with the alternator and powersteering brackets (You need those from the 74)

For anyone wanting to do the swap that doesn't get the powersteering bracket, I may be selling mine as I deleted the PS

There is however a tutorial on club3g that I referenced quite a bit. Read the whole thing and all the little details. It really helps. Also helps to have a Haynes Manual (essentially it walks you through the steps of removing an engine)
Right here: http://www.club3g.com/forum/performance/79859-how-install-6g74-engine.html

If you want me to start up a 3.5L swap thread though, I will do so

Hell, I just turned 18 in may, and the extent of my automotive experience was lowering my car back in December 2008. Prior to that, not much car knowledge. I did a hell of a lot of reading and re-reading though

[Way Fast Galant]

for your first swap, i think you did a hell of a great job. makes me want an 8g to do that swap, lol.

[beam514]

thanks man :)

and so my plan was to have the car running by saturday.. which was yesterday. Ran into some problems though. One of them was the IAC plug which i previously stated. Also, I'm using the stock intake tubing up until the MAF for now. Had to hack off the little water catch box near the bend at the TB as it wouldn't fit b/c it was hitting the brake fluid reservoir. Also I was planning on putting the battery on the shelf where the old air filter box used to be, but the damn filter I bought is HUGE and the stock intake piping angles it right to that shelf.. and there is not enough room for the battery tray in the old position. Need to maybe get a smaller battery or something (getting a new battery anyway) and slim down the stock tray

[M-Rod]

Have you considered relocating the battery to the trunk? It's planned for my swap. I think it would be a great way to make room and clean up the engine bay at the same time. Just a possible suggestion. But you are doing great so far, keep it up. I can't wait to see this thing run!

[beam514]

Yea I was thinking about that. I need to look up how to do a battery relocation though. I would have to drill into the firewall for the new wires correct? (that kind of scares me)... but I guess I have come this far haha

[M-Rod]

Either that, or else you could run wires through your inner fender with your harness that goes to the dash.

Found this picture that Fred posted long ago, but you will see which wires I'm talking about. You can still access these with only the inner fender removed.
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll91/MRLRCR/100_0311.jpg

[wright06jhs]

A battery re-location will look great. I'm also thinking of doing in in my stratus because of the up coming 74 swap. The picture M-rod posted is the way i'm going to be routing my wires, very good place to run them.

[beam514]

I guess I could get this?
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-G1200A/
Once I run it through the fender and in through the dash, I guess I have to run it under the carpet and then somehow in to the trunk? Some guys appear to be running it on the side of the frame rails.. which doesn't seem like the brightest idea to me for some reason

[wright06jhs]

I guess I could get this?
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-G1200A/
Once I run it through the fender and in through the dash, I guess I have to run it under the carpet and then somehow in to the trunk? Some guys appear to be running it on the side of the frame rails.. which doesn't seem like the brightest idea to me for some reason


I would get that one, and yes you can pull the door sills up and pull the carpet back and run the wire along the floor under the carpet. Just make sure you make sure its not going to be anywhere in harms way like near seat bolt down points, under the trunk release, running under any sharp edges. It will be just like running amp wiring for a sub woofer but more important lol :D

[beam514]

Okay so I had my brother go buy a Braille battery at a performance shop near his house. I Guess I'll have to fab up some kind of custom battery tray b/c the stock one doesn't fit as it hits the 6G74's distributor. Also, there's no room on the little driverside shelf. So I will be getting that tonight, and finishing up my ghetto-intake, and then it should be good to go

Also, does NO ONE have any thoughts on the extra vacuum actuator? and the extra fitting on the back of the plenum?

[beam514]

okay the car is running!!! using a Braille battery on the modified OEM battery tray. Car sounds REALLY good. Kinda hard to turn with no power steering, but I'll get used to it

Videos will be up tonight!

SO this is now unofficially the 2nd 6G74 swapped Galant in the nation :)

[00galantguy]

sweet. i hope to be number three. well see. congrats dude!

[beam514]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y71ePXdsdZQ

First start :D


sweet. i hope to be number three. well see. congrats dude!

do you already have the block and everything? it seems that there's quite a few people right now trying to get this done

[stvn_mj]

Nice bro. Whats next?

[beam514]

Not really sure actually.. I leave for college in september, so I don't know if I have enough time to get anything else done at the moment. can't bring all my tools either as I'll be staying in the dorms

[jimmy_o2]

nice congrads

[stvn_mj]

Not really sure actually.. I leave for college in september, so I don't know if I have enough time to get anything else done at the moment. can't bring all my tools either as I'll be staying in the dorms

In that case let me have your galant and I will give you mine you wont tell the difference I promise. :orangelaugh:

[SPD_FRK]

Looks like you have done a good job with the install man. I noticed you had a couple issues with things, but hopefully have them straightened out.

I was also going to relocate the battery to the trunk but instead mounted the stock battery tray on the driver's side shelf within the engine compartment. You would need to bolt it down to the shelf (and in fact can make use of the existing holes there). Thjere is plenty of clearance between the terminals and the hood so there weren't any issues with that location;
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee207/HD-SPDFRK/Galant/0509091541-00.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee207/HD-SPDFRK/Galant/0509091457-00.jpg


With the vacuum port on the rear portion of the intake manifold I would assume that has to be for part of the EGR system. You could easily hook that up directly to the EGR valve when you go to emissions so you are bypassing the electrical solenoid. Once you have done your emissions you can simply cap the vacuum port and block the EGR port on the system.

[Ivory8g]

congrats dude! i love that first start feeling! scary but exciting non the less!

[beam514]

thanks guys :) jimmy its too bad I couldn't finish it for MOD haha

SPD_FRK, I was actually planning on doing exactly that with the battery tray, but once I mounted the stock intake piping I realized that there's no way in hell that a battery would fit there cause the fuckin huge K&N filter takes up pretty much the whole shelf. I basically hacked off part of the stock battery tray to fit in its normal mounting spot, then I bought a Braille battery. I still need to drill some holes to allow for battery tie downs, but for now its actually planted pretty well with some painters' tape (hahaha.. trying to not take any corners too fast)

I will post pics and vids of it running smoothly soon

[SPD_FRK]

thanks guys :) jimmy its too bad I couldn't finish it for MOD haha

SPD_FRK, I was actually planning on doing exactly that with the battery tray, but once I mounted the stock intake piping I realized that there's no way in hell that a battery would fit there cause the fuckin huge K&N filter takes up pretty much the whole shelf. I basically hacked off part of the stock battery tray to fit in its normal mounting spot, then I bought a Braille battery. I still need to drill some holes to allow for battery tie downs, but for now its actually planted pretty well with some painters' tape (hahaha.. trying to not take any corners too fast)

I will post pics and vids of it running smoothly soon

Are you running a CAI or a Short Ram? I am fabbing my own CAI system, but too frequently I see a lot of folks here running the short ram intakes...not big for sucking in hot air myself, but colder air is always better IMO.

[M-Rod]

Congrats Adrian! I'm glad to see it's running. Did you end up using the heads from the 74, or did you swap over the heads from your 72?

[beam514]

Matt, I used the heads from the 74. In fact I never even removed them. I was getting tons of lifter tick and my valves were leaking tons of oil on the old 72. This swap was pretty much routine maintenance on the 6G74 (new timing belt, tensioner, tensioner pulley, idler pulley, water pump, spark plugs, and gaskets for anything that was removed), throw it in the Galant, and go.

The intake is the stock intake piping up until the MAF. I hacked off the water catch box near the throttle body because it was hitting the brake fluid resevoir and covered that up. The angle of the piping makes it so that the filter sits right on the shelf. This is temporary to keep the engine bay as stock looking as possible so I can pass emissions.

As for the rear vacuum port. I am not quite understanding what you are saying about the EGR. I basically have it set up like the picture below which is actually a diagram for the 6G72. I have made a red dot for where the extra vacuum port is on the Diamante plenum
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/6g72EmissionsDiagram2.jpg

[beam514]

Before and after photo's:
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/7-2-2009001.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/7-26-09.jpg

[SPD_FRK]

I have been looking through alldata here at work now for a few minutes. Going from 1999-2004 Diamante models the intake manifold, and vacuum routing are all identical and have no indication/mention of the fitting on the rear side of your manifold.

The only thing I can take a stab at here (based on what I can/cant see in the two photos, and no vacuum line routed to the FPR shown), is that the port may be for the FPR, but there should be one on the side facing the front of the vehicle. Now if there is one there, then forget about this...but right now I am scratching my own head trying to figure it out.

[beam514]

The only thing I can take a stab at here (based on what I can/cant see in the two photos, and no vacuum line routed to the FPR shown), is that the port may be for the FPR, but there should be one on the side facing the front of the vehicle. Now if there is one there, then forget about this...but right now I am scratching my own head trying to figure it out.

yeap there is one on the "front" of the plenum connected to the FPR, its just hard to see in all the mess. *shrug* the rear port is just plugged with some electrical tape right now lol

[Galantfan88]

Nice job on the car man, keep up the good work.

[M-Rod]

I think you will be fine with that plugged on the back of the plenum. Here is the routing for the 1998 style which will be more similar to our 1999 6G72 Galants.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u215/Rodrigoflip/6G74%20Resources/1998VacuumHoseRouting.gif

[beam514]

yea the car is running just fine with no CELs or anything with that rear port plugged. I need to find something more permanent to plug it though. The electrical tape isn't going to cut it..

anyway I went to a muffler shop to get an estimate on welding on my Magnaflow, and I guess they had time to do it right then so they welded it on for 60 bucks. Its actually not too loud (at least from inside the car) when driving normally. Part # 14827
I will take pics and vids tomorrow when its light out

[wright06jhs]

yea the car is running just fine with no CELs or anything with that rear port plugged. I need to find something more permanent to plug it though. The electrical tape isn't going to cut it..

anyway I went to a muffler shop to get an estimate on welding on my Magnaflow, and I guess they had time to do it right then so they welded it on for 60 bucks. Its actually not too loud (at least from inside the car) when driving normally. Part # 14827
I will take pics and vids tomorrow when its light out

Definitely get some videos of the car with the new exhaust.

So what do you think of the 6G74 so far?
So are you running the injectors from the 6G72? don't remember what you said you were going to do.

[beam514]

Yea, I'll get some vids as soon as possible with my lil canon SD750.. i wanted to get some vids of the stock exhaust to compare it but when the shop said they could get it done right then I jumped on the deal haha

and I'm using the stock 6G72 injectors. To be honest I've been going reallllly easy on the engine for the past couple of days. Have yet to really open up. I have my first free day tomorrow without work though so I am gonna go for a nice drive :)

[AVERAGE]

yea the car is running just fine with no CELs or anything with that rear port plugged. I need to find something more permanent to plug it though. The electrical tape isn't going to cut it..

anyway I went to a muffler shop to get an estimate on welding on my Magnaflow, and I guess they had time to do it right then so they welded it on for 60 bucks. Its actually not too loud (at least from inside the car) when driving normally. Part # 14827
I will take pics and vids tomorrow when its light outPut a piece of vacuum line with a screw in it. For that extra seal you could wrap the threads of the screw with teflon tape and it should hold just fine.

[beam514]

ohhh great idea. I actually have form-a-gasket so I'll just use that and let it dry

[beam514]

got my magnaflow muffler welded on:
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/th_IMG_1313.jpg (http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/IMG_1313.jpg) http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/th_IMG_1325edited.jpg (http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/IMG_1325edited.jpg)

I have yet to take videos cause I ran out of space on my camera :( I will take those soon though. The car just purrrrrs now with the 3.5 and magnaflow

[RedGalant2k1]

Street series muffler?

[beam514]

yeap. part # 14827

[jimmy_o2]

its always quiet in the beginning give about 2 or 3 weeks and it will get louder how much dont know

[stvn_mj]

It looks really good. I like the bronze color on the wheels. I might do the same thing and I hope to get that muffler too.

[RedGalant2k1]

its always quiet in the beginning give about 2 or 3 weeks and it will get louder how much dont know

Even the Race Series muffler is quite quiet on the 3.0V6. This should be even quieter.


yeap. part # 14827

Nice, you just got the universal muffler?

[beam514]

yeap. Ordered it on ebay for about $130, then paid $60 for it to be welded on. and yea, its surprisingly quiet from inside the car. I drove my friend around and he didn't even realize I had a new muffler on there. Same with my dad actually. The only reason he noticed was because of the 4" tip and the shiny chrome, of course.

[blue8g]

^yeah i've noticed my magnaflow is really quiet (albeit i have the i4 and the race series)

btw that looks pretty dope, do you have c/o's yet?

[beam514]

thanks, but nope on the coilovers. I kind of wish I saved up for them simply just to go a little lower, but handling wise, this set up is just fine.

[blue8g]

^what are you on?

[stvn_mj]

^rear agx and progress springs and front stock progress springs.

[sponcar]

I would like to watch some videos of how fast ur 3.5 can hit higher speed...!!!

[stvn_mj]

^x2

[Bring380GT]

Cars awesome!

Man I can't wait to swap!

Lightweight flywheel stage 2 clutch
Already have prothane motor mounts

then I can go have it tuned!
its gonna be sweet!

[wright06jhs]

Cars awesome!

Man I can't wait to swap!

Lightweight flywheel stage 2 clutch
Already have prothane motor mounts

then I can go have it tuned!
its gonna be sweet!

I wish i lived in your are, there's no place at all around here that i can get my car tuned. :(

[beam514]

thanks guys!

steven, sorry I haven't posted pictures of the muffler fitment yet. I've been SUPER busy the past few days and I still need to go out and snap some pics

Bring350GT, were you on MP? your car looks really familiar

and I plan on putting on the front AGX's tomorrow morning. Finally found some time to do them

[stvn_mj]

No problem bro. Anyway I will most likely go that route anyway.I bet the galant will look and feel better with those agx up front.

[blue8g]

thanks guys!

steven, sorry I haven't posted pictures of the muffler fitment yet. I've been SUPER busy the past few days and I still need to go out and snap some pics

Bring350GT, were you on MP? your car looks really familiar

and I plan on putting on the front AGX's tomorrow morning. Finally found some time to do them

yeah he was on mp, which is where i first posted on how awesome this swap is!

[beam514]

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/MagnaFlow%20Muffler/th_8-5-09001.jpg (http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/MagnaFlow%20Muffler/8-5-09001.jpg)*http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/MagnaFlow%20Muffler/th_8-5-09002.jpg (http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/MagnaFlow%20Muffler/8-5-09002.jpg)*http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/MagnaFlow%20Muffler/th_8-5-09003.jpg (http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/MagnaFlow%20Muffler/8-5-09003.jpg)*http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/MagnaFlow%20Muffler/th_8-5-09004.jpg (http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/MagnaFlow%20Muffler/8-5-09004.jpg)*http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/MagnaFlow%20Muffler/th_8-5-09005.jpg (http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/MagnaFlow%20Muffler/8-5-09005.jpg)*http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/MagnaFlow%20Muffler/th_8-5-09006.jpg (http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/MagnaFlow%20Muffler/8-5-09006.jpg)*http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/MagnaFlow%20Muffler/th_8-5-09007.jpg (http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/MagnaFlow%20Muffler/8-5-09007.jpg)*http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/MagnaFlow%20Muffler/th_8-5-09008.jpg (http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/MagnaFlow%20Muffler/8-5-09008.jpg)*http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/MagnaFlow%20Muffler/th_8-5-09009.jpg (http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/MagnaFlow%20Muffler/8-5-09009.jpg)*http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/MagnaFlow%20Muffler/th_8-5-09010.jpg (http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/MagnaFlow%20Muffler/8-5-09010.jpg)

Here are some pics of the fitment of the muffler and how much space is available to move it forward/backward. Part# 14827

[4g63lover]

video clip?? i want to hear this as I am probably going to grab myself one if it sounds the way I want.

[sponcar]

^X2
And once again I want to see how fast it is???
And I won't stop to asking for the video until u make it Ok...!!!!

[stvn_mj]

video clip?? i want to hear this as I am probably going to grab myself one if it sounds the way I want.

X2 But I am definetly go with that.

[greddy]

you guys do realize that it will sound totally different on the 3.5 than on the 2.4 right?

[stvn_mj]

^No I would of never of realized that. Thanks.

[sponcar]

you guys do realize that it will sound totally different on the 3.5 than on the 2.4 right?

lol.... yup yup... thats obviously gready....
we just want to hear the monster of the 3.5.....

[beam514]

front AGX's are finally on. I set all the AGX's at 4 (the rear were previously at 2 to match the OEM front struts). Ride is obviously a little more rough, but I can deal with it. I have yet to take it to some twisties to really feel the difference though.

Also, on the exhaust videos: I will try to get some soon. Seeing as how my only means of recording is my point and shoot, I need someone to help me out, as I don't have enough memory to just leave it sitting there and do driveby's and stuff

*edited for typos

[4g63lover]

you guys do realize that it will sound totally different on the 3.5 than on the 2.4 right?

I'm not wanting to hear tone, I just want to hear how loud it is. and yes, I do understand it'll sound different. lol

I'm actually contempleting the 5zigen Pro racer exhaust for the 3G

[blue8g]

Jigz do it!

i want to hear the exhaust, i have 2.4, i just want to hear how the 74 sounds....

[greddy]

I'm not wanting to hear tone, I just want to hear how loud it is. and yes, I do understand it'll sound different. lol

I'm actually contempleting the 5zigen Pro racer exhaust for the 3G

that exhaust is fucking loud bro, really really really loud

[4g63lover]

that exhaust is fucking loud bro, really really really loud

is it??? I guess I should've figured cuz I remember the fireball being stupid loud back in the day.

[beam514]

okay that's enough off topic exhaust discussions in my thread! :P

[beam514]

oh forgot to add that the AGX's did raise me up about 1 finger length as compared to the stock struts: there was a 2 finger gap between tire and fender previously, now it is 3. I'm hoping it drops down a little more after settling because it was at 3 fingers on the stuck struts after being on jack stands for 3 weeks

[4g63lover]

okay that's enough off topic exhaust discussions in my thread! :P

sorry Beam! lol

[beam514]

Okay so my registration renewal is due in September, so I have to get the car SMOG'ed soon. Called some local places, and I won't pass with my damn K&N filter on there, and I'm not dropping $200 to go to some shady place to "forget" to look under the hood, so here is the ghetto solution:

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/th_8-10-09001.jpg (http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/8-10-09001.jpg) http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/th_8-10-09002.jpg (http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/8-10-09002.jpg)

thank god for flexible stock intake piping

[blue8g]

dude you gotta clean your bay!

[beam514]

shhhhh its not THAT dirty.. haha I have to clean up the battery tray and still make some battery tie downs. Also the radiator brackets are like permanently that color.. without that damn air filter housing though the bay looks reasonably clean

[blue8g]

if you fly me out to CA i'll clean it for you!

[stvn_mj]

Looks good. How's that braille battery working for you?

[4g63lover]

Okay so my registration renewal is due in September, so I have to get the car SMOG'ed soon. Called some local places, and I won't pass with my damn K&N filter on there, and I'm not dropping $200 to go to some shady place to "forget" to look under the hood, so here is the ghetto solution:

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/th_8-10-09001.jpg (http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/8-10-09001.jpg) http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/th_8-10-09002.jpg (http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/8-10-09002.jpg)

thank god for flexible stock intake piping

this is the reason I'm never moving to Cali.

[blue8g]

oooh yeah x2 on the braille battery i want to get one!

[wright06jhs]

oooh yeah x2 on the braille battery i want to get one!

X3 especially for my already swapped Eclipse.

[Ivory8g]

Dude Adrian awesome work! Cant wait to hear a clip as well!

[beam514]

still need to find time to put some vids from my camera on my dad's laptop to clear up some space on the memory card.

but anyway my Anti-Lock light decided to randomly come on last night on the freeway... on my way to go down some twisties.. and i mean lots of twisties. Decker Canyon Road to be exact. I still went down anyway and didn't have any problems. Turned the car off when, went to the beach, and came back this morning and the light didn't come back on. BUT, on the way back up some other twisties, the light came on again, then turned off when I started the car again after breakfast, then came on again on the freeway.

So I searched and there seems to be multiple things that could be the problem. Wheel bearings being bad, excessive differences in RPMs of the wheels, and not sure what else. I am 99.9999% the car has not gotten the wheel bearings replaced and it has about 155,000 miles LOL

[wright06jhs]

Could be as simple as a wheel speed sensor too, or ive heard it call the ABS sensor. Whatever it is.

[4g63lover]

I tackle twisties without ABS on the regular. I personally like cars without ABS better, It just makes the car more of a car than a computer IMO.

[blue8g]

I tackle twisties without ABS on the regular. I personally like cars without ABS better, It just makes the car more of a car than a computer IMO.

ABS is not a necessary thing none of my three cars have had it (well the Avenger had it....it didn't work tho:conehead:), plus locking up all four in a panic stop is something everyone should do it's the craziest experience of my time behind the wheel so far!

[wright06jhs]

I tackle twisties without ABS on the regular. I personally like cars without ABS better, It just makes the car more of a car than a computer IMO.

+1 on that. I don't like ABS much at all, have had some bad experiences in cars with it.

[Ivory8g]

hate to sound like a follower but I dont have it on the g or on any of the other cars that i had. I have driven in cars with both and i prefer without abs. as jigz said it just feels like a car without it.

[beam514]

well I just want the damn light to go away and stay away. Pretty sure I won't be locking up my brakes ever. But this light will make me not pass SMOG, no? I need to get the car scanned, but the light only turns on every once in awhile

[blue8g]

disconnect the light...........

[jimmy_o2]

disconnect the light...........

that will not help him pass smog

[4g63lover]

damn, california will fail you if the ABS light is on?? WTF?

[Way Fast Galant]

that will not help him pass smog

thats true, and ABS only lets you pick a target and hope for the best. on the side, its sweet to see how far you have come with your G. i wish i could say my G is going along so well, lol

[beam514]

I am pretty sure any code that would show up on an OBDII scanner will make you fail SMOG.

[jimmy_o2]

correct

[IVORY_G]

My smog place that I go to didnt make me put on my stock intake, I had the same setup you had, stock piping w/ MAF adapter & cone filter. He said it was cool. Its an exhaust/SMOG shop that me & Jimmy are familiar with in Inglewood...

[beam514]

Do you have a name and address of the place? Its about an hour south of me, but I'm actually heading down that direction soon. I just need to figure out this damn ABS stuff though, cause the light keeps coming on after about 10-15 miles of continual driving

[IVORY_G]

PM Sent

[8g831]

I am pretty sure any code that would show up on an OBDII scanner will make you fail SMOG.

i passe dwith my anti lock light being on,dude seen it and everything it never comes off and cant be deleted

[jimmy_o2]

J&J its on La Brea on the south of aborvita on the east side of the La brea its a yelllow building. If they give u any problems just tell them u know jimmy with the silver and black galant

[beam514]

Okay, I just took my car to a SMOG place down in Mission Viejo. Threw the stock air filter housing on there, made all the extra vacuum lines look like they actually went somewhere, and there were no questions asked. Passed with flying colors. Oh and all for $49.50 haha

[sponcar]

Okay, I just took my car to a SMOG place down in Mission Viejo. Threw the stock air filter housing on there, made all the extra vacuum lines look like they actually went somewhere, and there were no questions asked. Passed with flying colors. Oh and all for $49.50 haha

take a pic of how it looks like..!!!

[beam514]

haha i posted some pics previously of the stock air filter housing bolted it. I just removed it and put back the K&N filter so I can't snap a pic haha

[stvn_mj]

How's the 74 so far? Any videos yet?

[beam514]

haha no, no videos yet. I just got my new laptop so I finally cleared up the memory on my camera, so now I have 31 minutes worth of recording space on there, so I'll get something soon. Maybe some driveby's, some in car shots, and I was actually thinking of filming the entire drive down Decker Canyon Road (supppperrrr windy.. and about 20 minutes)

Today was the first time I heard my car revving even a little bit from outside the car (at the SMOG place). Even with the stock filter housing, it sounds sooo nice :)

[stvn_mj]

Today was the first time I heard my car revving even a little bit from outside the car (at the SMOG place). Even with the stock filter housing, it sounds sooo nice :)

Thats not fair. Stop teasing and get those videos already. Your too slow for my liking. :orangelaugh:

[beam514]

haha well I had to get my shift covered for work today, so I have some free time :)

[beam514]

okay well I took some videos and destroyed my camera in the process (literally) but I'm uploading them to the computer right now. I still have to edit them but I'll upload them to youtube after I'm done with that

edit: nevermind. These videos are terrible. You can barely even hear the car b/c it was so windy outside

[stvn_mj]

excuses...excuses. lol j/k bro. What happened to the camera?

[beam514]

the camera tipped over during an in-car run. it still works fine, its just the automatic lens cover broke off. :( I made a compilation video anyway and I'll post that on youtube within the next hour

[beam514]

and here you go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N51Bqn3EEns

[sponcar]

nice video... so we can see that u car run perfect without any problem...
but last time I drove a v6 galant that damn... I just pushed that gas... and easily start to bournout... its wasnt a big bournout.... but it was nice just pushing the gas pedal...!!!
so I was hoping to see something like that well should be more crazy wth the 6g74 engine huh...!!!

[beam514]

haha if i'm sitting and launch then I get some wheel spin

[sponcar]

there u go thats what I was talking about...!!!
sorry for my english..!! ;(

[beam514]

haha its okay, you're improving a lot it seems

[stvn_mj]

It sounds really good. Damn do these v6 projects make me wanna get a v6 and use my 4 cylinder as a daily. How much did you get the 74 for? (if you dont mind saying)

[beam514]

I picked it up for $450 which included:
-long block
-Intake manifolds, throttle body
-Exhaust manifolds and cats
-power steering, alternator, and AC brackets
-full thermostat and housing
-clipped engine harness (saved my ass on the TB)

I paid about $60-$80 in gas just to drive to the place and back, and luckily my friend didn't charge me to drive me in his truck

[stvn_mj]

That sounds like a really good deal. I don't see myself doing anything rather huge for my 4 cylinder galant anytime soon and by that I mean boost. So i think a v6 with a 74 would be more than enough for now. What difference do you feel from the 72?
Might I add that I am looking for a v6 but looking for a cheap one where I don't spend too much on it. Kinda of like what Spd_frk got his for. One maybe with a engine problem or whatever where I can get it cheap and just get a 74 to drop in.

[wright06jhs]

haha if i'm sitting and launch then I get some wheel spin

Some wheel spin? You should get A LOT if you launch hard enough. Ive spun threw the first 2 gears and chirp the tires in third in my Eclipse. Then again i have auto-stick.

[beam514]

^^I say some cause I have yet to actually really launch it haha. I was just messing around one day with my friends when we were driving to their house at like 2 in the morning. I need to find some open roads out here

[SPD_FRK]

Damn no speakers here at work!!!!

Get that 5spd in there and it will really become alive man. I am hoping to pick up a 74 here in a couple weeks, depends how much money I spend this next week....LOTs of goodies going to be coming in for my build lol.

[beam514]

Damn no speakers here at work!!!!

Get that 5spd in there and it will really become alive man. I am hoping to pick up a 74 here in a couple weeks, depends how much money I spend this next week....LOTs of goodies going to be coming in for my build lol.

haha its okay there's not much to hear.
and Yea I want to do the 5 speed realllllly bad, but I leave for college on sep. 12 and I'll be living in a tiny little dorm with hardly any tools. Maybe I can plan on doing it winter break :)
need moneyyyyy though haha. damn 5 speed swap is expensive shit

and I want to see you start tearing into a 74!

[SPD_FRK]

haha its okay there's not much to hear.
and Yea I want to do the 5 speed realllllly bad, but I leave for college on sep. 12 and I'll be living in a tiny little dorm with hardly any tools. Maybe I can plan on doing it winter break :)
need moneyyyyy though haha. damn 5 speed swap is expensive shit

and I want to see you start tearing into a 74!
Yea 5spd isn't cheap unless you find the stuff at a good junkyard. The prices out here are really cheap but those parts aren't too common yet. I am wanting to do the 5spd conversion over winter if able to.

The 74 build for me will take a deal of time as I will be building from the ground up with forged internals specifically for a boosted build.


The 5spd could be done in a weekend if you have all the parts and a lift really...but other than that I can totally understand lol

[Bring380GT]

Yea 5spd isn't cheap unless you find the stuff at a good junkyard. The prices out here are really cheap but those parts aren't too common yet. I am wanting to do the 5spd conversion over winter if able to.

The 74 build for me will take a deal of time as I will be building from the ground up with forged internals specifically for a boosted build.


The 5spd could be done in a weekend if you have all the parts and a lift really...but other than that I can totally understand lol

I did my 5spd swap on the ground, jacked up the car put jackstands underneath and did the swap on one saturday :)

[beam514]

I did my 5spd swap on the ground, jacked up the car put jackstands underneath and did the swap on one saturday :)

yea thats what I was planning on doing once I get around to getting all the parts. Need to jack up the car pretty damn high though to get enough room under there

[Bring380GT]

yea thats what I was planning on doing once I get around to getting all the parts. Need to jack up the car pretty damn high though to get enough room under there
As high as the jack can go stock, if not high enuff get some wood and stick it ontop of the jack lol:spin:

[beam514]

okay, got a new video. Its kind of boring, but whatever. and for some reason there's these weird clicking noises and the muffler is REALLY quiet.. I think something's wrong with my camera.. seeing as how the tripod tipped over last time and destroyed my camera :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WnvkHVrqMg

[stvn_mj]

It says video was removed because its too long.

[SPD_FRK]

okay, got a new video. Its kind of boring, but whatever. and for some reason there's these weird clicking noises and the muffler is REALLY quiet.. I think something's wrong with my camera.. seeing as how the tripod tipped over last time and destroyed my camera :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WnvkHVrqMg

It says the vid has been removed because it is too long, you recording the sunday drives now beam?? :wink:

[beam514]

nooo okay I'm gonna have to trim it down to size today. I think it was 12 minutes long (holy shit.. i know, but it goes from garage almost all the way to the destination). I forgot that youtube has a 10 minute limit

[beam514]

okay new clipped video here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UneHpM1z9wg

really pretty boring haha
I want to get some more WOT pulls today or tomorrow though

[stvn_mj]

Sounds good. Did you remove your power steering?

[beam514]

yea I did. thats why you see me driving with two hands a lot haha. I have no plans tonight, so I might go out and shoot some WOT pulls

[stvn_mj]

^Why are you still here go take them videos. lol Yea I figured you removed the power steering because of your intense wheel hold. :)

[ShiZnitH]

The engine sounds good :)

[SPD_FRK]

yea I did. thats why you see me driving with two hands a lot haha. I have no plans tonight, so I might go out and shoot some WOT pulls
How is the torque steer w/o the power steering? I am curious to see how mine works out with the 245s on mine...lol

[beam514]

okay well I should be receiving the sway bars from lKorty on sep. 3rd, along with an OEM 3G GT strut bar from someone on Club3G (lets hope it fits). I'll try to get those on as soon as I can. I am really hoping I receive the other suspension goodies from COMPLX before I go to college so I can install those

and the other night I got lazy and didn't go do any WOT pulls. same with last night. Went for a bike ride instead lol

[Bring380GT]

sweet man! so over all do you feel the 3.5ltr was worth the swap? tq I know is good right? big difference compard to the 3.0?

[beam514]

The 3.5 swap was WELL worth it for the amount of actual work it needed and the money required. The swap was fairly simple, even for a self taught kid like me who didn't even know how to change the oil in his car a year ago.

The torque is great in the car. I don't think these 215 tires will be able to hold. I have yet to put the pedal to the metal from stand still, so I am not sure how much/long the tires break loose for, and to answer your question SPD_FRK, I am not too sure on the torque steer. I will post in here once I actually get around to doing this and let you know.

OH and I received the sway bars from lKorty yesterday, so I am hoping to install those today if I have enough time after picking up the transmission swap from Jet_Black :)

[SPD_FRK]

OH and I received the sway bars from lKorty yesterday, so I am hoping to install those today if I have enough time after picking up the transmission swap from Jet_Black :)
You suck man lol, I just saw his thread for that thing this morning when I got to work...At least its good to see you taking on the 5spd now

[beam514]

Picked up the 5 speed from Jet Black earlier today :) along with a lot of other miscellaneous parts. I'm going to edit the first post and make a huge parts list of everything I've put on and will be putting on in the future

[Bring380GT]

Picked up the 5 speed from Jet Black earlier today :) along with a lot of other miscellaneous parts. I'm going to edit the first post and make a huge parts list of everything I've put on and will be putting on in the future

Sweet! your going to like the 5spd :041:

[beam514]

yea i am really excited to come back in the winter and do the 5 speed swap!

and I got my 3G GT strut bar today.. and it doesn't fit with the damn cruise control. oh well, guess I'll sell it.. or possibly fab something up using the mounting brackets. Either way, I like cruise control way too much to remove it for the time being. haha

[greddy]

Cruise control is for pussies..... lol

[blue8g]

cruise control is for pussies..... Lol

qft!!!!!!

[beam514]

Cruise control is for pussies..... lol

hey now... it keeps me from speeding. I haven't gotten a speeding ticket yet, and don't ever plan too. Don't feel like payin $300

and I installed the rear sway bar that I got from lKorty. I'll be installing the front some other time cause I have a feeling it will take much longer

[blue8g]

hey now... it keeps me from speeding. I haven't gotten a speeding ticket yet, and don't ever plan too. Don't feel like payin $300

and I installed the rear sway bar that I got from lKorty. I'll be installing the front some other time cause I have a feeling it will take much longer

i have cruise control.........it's called my right foot, i've never gotten a speeding ticket it's not that hard not too haha

[beam514]

haha I dunno about you but I'm on the freeway ALOT. if i don't set the cruise at 65 and let it coast, then I'll probably drive 70-75, which may not sound fast, but could still get you a ticket :)

plus I'm pretty sure using cruise is slightly more fuel efficient because it gives just the right amount of air intake/fuel to maintain that speed, whereas with your foot, even if you might try to maintain at 65, you might be giving too much throttle at some points. This is just a thought based on the mileage gauge on our lexus though

[SPD_FRK]

yea i am really excited to come back in the winter and do the 5 speed swap!

and I got my 3G GT strut bar today.. and it doesn't fit with the damn cruise control. oh well, guess I'll sell it.. or possibly fab something up using the mounting brackets. Either way, I like cruise control way too much to remove it for the time being. haha
Shoot me a pic of that strut bar man, maybe I will pick it up from you if you don't want it.

I get you with the cruise control...its nice, but I have driven so many vehicles now w/o it I don't even notice or use it on vehicles that have it lol.

[Bring380GT]

I do not have cruise control, the cruise control sensors are different then that of the 5spd. + I already changed around the 3.5ltr throttlebody, so even if I could have cruise I could not use it. lol

[M-Rod]

Hmm.. I have my Diamante Plenum and TB setup and my cruise control still fits under the strut bar. Barely though... I'm guessing the slightly taller block height of the 3.5 makes just enough difference for yours not to fit.

[beam514]

Hmm.. I have my Diamante Plenum and TB setup and my cruise control still fits under the strut bar. Barely though... I'm guessing the slightly taller block height of the 3.5 makes just enough difference for yours not to fit.

yea the bar was sitting on top of the strut tower nuts, and it was already resting on the cruise control bell. If i remove the bell, then it will most likely still hit the metal frame around the throttle springs, and possibly even my throttle cable bracket in the middle of the manifold

oh and SPD_FRK, one of the studs on the strut bar mount is broken, so only one stud holds the bar to the mount. Supposedly it can be replaced with a stud from Lowes or whatever though. I'll have to check out Home Depot (their hardware sucks) and the Do-It Center (built my camber kit from 10.9 grade bolts from here, also replaced broken water pumps bolts)

[WhiteGalant]

Beam you can buy one of the new mounts, the whole piece for like 7$ from the dealer.

[sponcar]

here u go bro..
http://www.roadraceengineering.com/dynapack/dynos/4gmeet/GALANT-ADRIAN/168HP-800.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avniBk5V8lo

[beam514]

thanks man! hopefully I see you again tonight!

As for the dyno results:
169.29 HP at 5629 rpm
184.9 lb-ft at 4113 rpm

what's holding me back:
lack of tuning
6G72 injectors
auto transmission
restrictive exhaust (small diameter piping AND I still have both precats and the cat)

[beam514]

oh and nice of you to put the info in the video! thanks!

[stvn_mj]

thanks man! hopefully I see you again tonight!

As for the dyno results:
169.29 HP at 5629 rpm
184.9 lb-ft at 4113 rpm

what's holding me back:
lack of tuning
6G72 injectors
auto transmission
restrictive exhaust (small diameter piping AND I still have both precats and the cat)

What are you gonna do about those things holding you back? What are you gonna change them with. Can't wait to see what you get after that and the 5 speed.

[beam514]

I really can't do much about the 6G72 injectors or the tuning because my 1999 ECU is un-tuneable (so far).

Once I get around to the 5 speed swap, I will swap in an tune-able Eclipse manual ECU. Then, I can run the 6G74 injectors. As for the exhaust, I really would like to keep the cats there for now, but we'll see where things go :)

[beam514]

okay guys,

so I have the transmission, clutch pedal, a brand new exedy clutch disk, shifter assembly and cables, etc. etc.

essentially all that I need now is the master cylinder, some clutch lines, a shift knob and boot, and most important: a new pressure plate or clutch kit

for street purposes, the ACT street kit obviously seems like the best choice.. BUT its almost $500 (importcarpartsplus). There is a kit on eBay that comes with the ACT pressure plate, an exedy clutch, new release bearing, and alignment tool for $384 +18 shipping. Since I already have a brand new exedy clutch, I was looking around for just the PP by itself, but that is $390 on summitracing.com

SO does anyone know where to get just the PP for cheaper or does anyone have any dece hookups? ;)

[johnygezony]

.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avniBk5V8lo

God i love that song ! i havent listened to it in a while !

[beam514]

ordering a SPEC stage 1 clutch kit right now from Import Car Parts Plus. Don't give me shit for ordering SPEC, cause SPEC held up just fine for two other V6 owners (cough cough)

[SPD_FRK]

SPEC this.... hahah

Have you had the fun of installing the 5spd shifter yet?? That is a blast man

[beam514]

quite honestly I don't understand your first line. but keep in mind i went to sleep at 3:40 am, had calculus at 7, and just got back. so my brain is a little tired

but no I have not had the fun of doing that :(
first thing when I get back from school (dec. 11 is the end of my quarter. Freaking calculus final on monday, then public speaking on friday.. and nothing in between! wasted time!) I'm starting work

and just realized that I could probably use this reservoir:
https://www.thegalantcenter.org/showpost.php?p=480421&postcount=63

its clean too!

[SPD_FRK]

quite honestly I don't understand your first line. but keep in mind i went to sleep at 3:40 am, had calculus at 7, and just got back. so my brain is a little tired

but no I have not had the fun of doing that :(
first thing when I get back from school (dec. 11 is the end of my quarter. Freaking calculus final on monday, then public speaking on friday.. and nothing in between! wasted time!) I'm starting work

and just realized that I could probably use this reservoir:
https://www.thegalantcenter.org/showpost.php?p=480421&postcount=63

its clean too!
Ehh, just making a joke. You are pretty much the walking dead with the little sleep you got man lol.

Well, take it from Jigz or any other, the shifter cables are a real pain in the ass to deal with since the heater core and stuff is in the way. I saw that res and it looks way better than the remote mounted one on the firewall. Definitely makes for a clean install.

[Galantfan88]

Shit nice job on the work man, deff would love to see this car gogogoooo.

-Srry to bring this up up but just wanna throw it out there really quick if anybody knows. I was looking at the same Muffler for my car when the build is done, does any buddy know how the magnaflow muffler sounds with a 4g64T motor. Im tied between this or HKS high power

[beam514]

I have no idea about the 4G64T question. Some people on Club3G might have this muffler. Not sure though

And work for the 5 speed swap is planned to start December 12th, 2009

[jimmy_o2]

cant wait bro

[beam514]

Okay so there is a little delay because I was freaking out about parts, but I finally got everything ordered so I started pulling apart the interior today. I also drilled the holes for the master cylinder + clutch pedal

I'll put together a total cost list after I'm done

Also, put on my old 6G72 valve cover:
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/th_IMG_1609.jpg (http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/IMG_1609.jpg)http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/th_IMG_1605.jpg (http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/IMG_1605.jpg)
gold instead of bronze this time

[tjones156]

Also, put on my old 6G72 valve cover:
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/th_IMG_1609.jpg (http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/IMG_1609.jpg)http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/th_IMG_1605.jpg (http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/IMG_1605.jpg)
gold instead of bronze this time

Always loved that touch of gold! Great work

[beam514]

okay getting the shift cables out is by far the hardest thing I've done. I actually haven't even done it yet, cause I can't even seem to get a socket onto the bolt head or to get the wrench on there
I'm using a ratchet extension that can do angles and stuff. But theres no room for it. I couldn't find the flexible extension like drybear posted up in the tutorial
ahhhhh

[4g63lover]

I ended up using the swivel ratcheting box end wrench. It just takes time.

Have fun with the swap Adrian! It's going to be worth it when it's done.

[beam514]

yea i may have to get one of those. home depot sucks ballz though and have the crappiest selection of tools known to man. My friend is coming over and bringing some tools but maybe he can drive me to the store if he doesn't have them

[4g63lover]

Sears will have them. Try Advanced auto as well.

[beam514]

lol i dont think advanced auto exists out here. And yeaaa I don't know why i never tried sears. ughhh. well i got the "easy" bolt off. That one was covered in carpet though so i could barely even get to it. I hard to tear out sooo much carpet

[M-Rod]

Okay so there is a little delay because I was freaking out about parts, but I finally got everything ordered so I started pulling apart the interior today. I also drilled the holes for the master cylinder + clutch pedal

I'll put together a total cost list after I'm done

Also, put on my old 6G72 valve cover:
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/th_IMG_1609.jpg (http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/IMG_1609.jpg)http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/th_IMG_1605.jpg (http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/IMG_1605.jpg)
gold instead of bronze this time

I like it! The engine looks more complete with that done. Nice touch.

[beam514]

thanks!

okay so day 1 is done. Removed the auto transmission. I have yet to remove the shifter cables. I'm gonna go get the damn thing to get that bolt out tomorrow, then I might attempt putting all the stuff off. Man that auto didn't want to drop down. It took FOREVER. and I don't understand how warriorlax managed to not unbolt his downpipe because they were blocked the lower transaxle-engine bolts. Then the transmission was getting stuck on SOMETHING for hours. It would be something different every time. And when it finally fell down (not very far cause we had a dolly underneath it) then the torque converter was stuck to the engine. Don't know why. After like 30 minutes of trying to figure it out, we just pounded on one side with a rubber mallet and then it just fell to the ground

what a long day :[

[4g63lover]

The woes of five-speed swapping. Atleast your tranny isn't noisy like mine is.

IDK how it is for the V6 but on my I4, the tranny dropped much smoother and went back in much smoother as well when you unbolt the roller bracket from the trans instead of unbolting the roller mount from the subframe.

Good luck with getting everything in Adrian!

[mko]

Very impressive. Ill be def. buying a V6 and doing the 3.5L swap. Good job

[DryBear]

Home Depot sucks ass. I get all my tools from Orchard Supply, Sears, or Harbor Freight.

Good luck!

[beam514]

yea I plan to go to sears today. the nearest harbor freight is over this hugeeee hill and is pretty far away.

I don't really plan on putting the 5-speed in tonight. I literally just woke up. Probably going to take off the flex plate and mount the flywheel, clutch, and pressure plate tonight, and try to get those dang cables out and put the new ones in

[Ivory8g]

awww snap adrian! 5 spd 6g74! props bro! it is worth every penny.

[beam514]

awww snap adrian! 5 spd 6g74! props bro! it is worth every penny.

lets hope its worth all the frustration too :-P

flywheel, clutch, and pressure plate are all mounted. Still have to remove the cables, put in the 5 speed cables, then raise the transmission and get that all bolted in. I filled my front and rear motor mounts yesterday so I hope they'll be all settled by tomorrow.

I hope to be receiving my intermediate shaft and clutch pedal tomorrow, but to be honest I don't know the status of my order. I'll give the junkyard a call tomorrow.

[beam514]

okay axle and clutch were shipped out yesterday (wednesday) so hopefully I'll receive them friday so that I can drive the damn thing before I head up to San Francisco. If it comes on saturday, I have to wait until monday to finish everything up

[ZigenScarface]

have u asked tj for a bj


:orangebiggrin:

[beam514]

received the clutch pedal and intermediate shaft today. Measured the intermediate shaft and there's hardly any visible to the eye difference in length, though it is about 1/4" shorter I think

anyway I installed the clutch pedal. I gotta figure out how the hell lines route because the hardlines hit the strut tower. Anyway have any pics of how they are running the hard lines?
NVM I think I got them

Hoping to raise the 5 speed in tonight
Oh and I need new CV boots too :(

[4g63lover]

Awesome!! Have fun raising hte 5-speed in there Adrian! Make sure you have a couple extra sets of hands.

[beam514]

Awesome!! Have fun raising hte 5-speed in there Adrian! Make sure you have a couple extra sets of hands.

I'll have just my dad helping me haha. Maybe I'll call another friend too who knows

[4g63lover]

I had only a friend who couldve possibly curled the transmission into place help me. lol

[beam514]

well I do have an engine hoist.... but its holding the weight of the engine itself. LOL

[beam514]

5 speed is mated to the engine. I used the engine hoist to lift up the transmission into place. That thing is a BITCH to line up with the engine. It kept hitting the pressure plate.. got it all scraped up :( but whatever

Plan for tomorrow is:
Day: clean, put all the mounts in place, reattach starter motor, raise up the entire assembly again, bolt it to the mounts, attach the shifter cables, run the clutch lines

Night: reattach the axles, fill clutch lines, bleed clutch, flush transmission with cheapo gear oil, then fill with Mobil 1 synthetic 75W-90

then.. start her up?! I hope

[IVORY_G]

Sounds good man! Its gonna be sick :)

[4g63lover]

5 speed is mated to the engine. I used the engine hoist to lift up the transmission into place. That thing is a BITCH to line up with the engine. It kept hitting the pressure plate.. got it all scraped up :( but whatever

Plan for tomorrow is:
Day: clean, put all the mounts in place, reattach starter motor, raise up the entire assembly again, bolt it to the mounts, attach the shifter cables, run the clutch lines

Night: reattach the axles, fill clutch lines, bleed clutch, flush transmission with cheapo gear oil, then fill with Mobil 1 synthetic 75W-90

then.. start her up?! I hope

Dont use the synthetic gear oil. It is GL-5 and it is bad for the synchros. Something in GL-5 is corrosive for the synchros in 3G transmissions. I would try and find some GL-4 or GL-4/GL-5/GL-3 compatible gear lube.

[beam514]

Dont use the synthetic gear oil. It is GL-5 and it is bad for the synchros. Something in GL-5 is corrosive for the synchros in 3G transmissions. I would try and find some GL-4 or GL-4/GL-5/GL-3 compatible gear lube.

oh shoot thanks for the heads up. I was going to use pennzoil synchromesh but they only had 2 quarts. I'll go back today and see if I can make an exchange

[Ivory8g]

Adrian you got all the wiring done for startup?

[beam514]

Adrian you got all the wiring done for startup?

yea I did all the wiring the other day while I was sitting around waiting for an extra hand to be able to help me haha

[beam514]

Okay I lied. I'm still having trouble with the hardlines. They don't appear to be the right shape? I'm not even sure

[beam514]

Done!

there's some weird loud noise from the engine or transmission. can't really tell. I'm gonna drive it more today

and my poly filled mounts suck. I guess they didn't cure all the way through (even though they sat for a week) so they started oozing from the inside once it get really hot in the bay.

oh and I suck at driving. LOL

[4g63lover]

is it like a bearing noise like crackling/grinding? do you hear it at idle? do you hear it when driving? does it go in and out when you are in gear? Does it get louder with the RPM's? if so, we might have the same noise. lol

[beam514]

no its like a reciprocating tapping/thudding noise. I really can't tell. I torqued the flywheel and pressure plate correctly.. So I don't know. And I don't hear it at higher gears or speeds, only at like idol or maybe up to 1500 rpm

[4g63lover]

hmmm.. if it sounds like a knock then its a loose flywheel. But you would have a HUGE vibration.

could you get a video?

[beam514]

The thing is, it's not a huge vibration, I can just hear it. I'll try to get some videos up today

[o1naturalhigh]

good shit adrian...congrats on getting her running 5 spd.

[4g63lover]

The thing is, it's not a huge vibration, I can just hear it. I'll try to get some videos up today

when is it vibrating? at idle or while driving?

[beam514]

sometimes I can hear it at idle, sometimes not. It actually sounds like its coming from the rear cylinder head as opposed to the transmission/crankshaft. What's weird is I NEVER heard that noise before the swap. But there's no vibration felt through the car. Only sound

[RedGalant2k1]

You should make sure the rear trans/engine mount is intact.

[beam514]

You should make sure the rear trans/engine mount is intact.

yea. I filled it with polyurethane but that kind of failed. I'll check them when I get some time and I will probably go to prothane once the holidays are over

[beam514]

found out the the tapping occurs when the clutch is engaged to the flywheel, but is absolutely quiet when it is not

[4g63lover]

either TOB, ISB, or loose flywheel but since you torqued the flywheel down and im assuming you used threadlock as well, we can rule that out.

I would pull the trans and see if one of the Pressure plate arms are hitting the TOB because they are sticking out.

If it's the ISB I wouldnt worry about it. Numerous people on C3G asked about the same issue and it's just a noise. Doesn't affect the trans whatsoever. You can get it replaced but it will just keep coming back. Even the engineers at the Normal factory said it's just an annoying noise you have to live with.

[beam514]

RAHHHHH someone backed into my car and had the balls to leave my poor car sitting there :( with no note

passenger side door has a huge dent around the door handle. It still opens fine, but it's ugly as sin

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/0214001638.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/0214001638a.jpg
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http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/0214001638d.jpg
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http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc141/beam514/Galant%20Photos/0214001745a.jpg

[stvn_mj]

Damn bro that just sucks. How do people not watch out when they are driving.