please HELP I4 MANUAL SWAP

[allen315]

Hello Everybody Im New Here At Tgc Need Help My Car Doent Want To Start Its A 1999 Es I4 With 145000 Miles Swap With A New 2003 I4 Eclipse Engine With Manual Trans I Originaly Bought The Engine From A Insurance Auction With Only 3,200 Miles On It Bought The Whole Car For 1,000 Only Car Was Hit At The Rear No Front Damage And It Started And When I Bought The Car And After Installed It To My Galant It Doest Wanna Start Mechanic Says Its The Fuel Pump Is Bad No Gas Coming In The Engine. Do I Supost To Use The Eclipse Ecu Or The Galant Is Ok Im Just Guesing Here My Car Is In The Shop For 2 Weeks Now And They Cant Start My Car.

[IceDouTGaLanT]

hmm, im guessing your useing the auto ecu, after the swap did you short out 9+10 pin?? has the car ever started after swap? if not thats prob your issue..check out 8g performance thread, 1st title is 5-speed swap by goosey but short out 9/10 should do it

[allen315]

hmm, im guessing your useing the auto ecu, after the swap did you short out 9+10 pin?? has the car ever started after swap? if not thats prob your issue..check out 8g performance thread, 1st title is 5-speed swap by goosey but short out 9/10 should do it

YES I FOLLOWED GOOSYS TUTORAL I DID SHORT 9 AND 10 STILL SAME THING

[RAZ_76]

Does your car crank at all?? Do you have an alarm??

[allen315]

Does your car crank at all?? Do you have an alarm??

IT CRANK AND YES I HAVE AN ALARM

[RAZ_76]

If it cranks then it's something else. Are your spark plugs firing OK?? What mechanics do you have your car at that cant figure out how to fix your car??

[seth98esT]

IF you think the pump is the issue, test the pump. Run a 12v line from the battery back to the pump and test it. It either will turn on, or it wont. If it turns on, move on, the pump is not the issue.

[bronxbombr]

are you sure you shorted the right wires? If it started before the swap then it should start after.
Did you touch and or play around with the NS switch on the clutch pedal? How did you go about your swap, i mean did you do anything extra that was not written in the TUT?

[GOOSEY2099]

wait wait wait wait..... 1999 and 03 are not the same ecus, engines, or cam reluctors. its got its differences, and this isn't a DIRECT drop in. and last time i tried to start an 02 engine with a 2001 ecu it didn't work. It cranked but failed to start. Also there is no Ignition failure switch on the 02 so you have to short out the pins on that 4 pin harness to give power to injectors. In fact thats probably your problem.

[allen315]

thnks goosey ill try that

[GOOSEY2099]

As i understood you swapped the motor as well and can't get it to start. Well that can be due to no power to the injectors. The 4 pin harness for the ignition failure switch might have something to do with that.

[allen315]

As i understood you swapped the motor as well and can't get it to start. Well that can be due to no power to the injectors. The 4 pin harness for the ignition failure switch might have something to do with that.

witch harness is it the same one with 7+8 and 9+10. and shot 4 with what pin

[Stewi]

Roman are you sure that 03 3g's have an ignition failure switch? I just swapped out an 02 Galant motor the other day and it didnt have a ignition failure sensor.

Allen, if you have an ignition failure sensor, its mounted on the intake manifold and its held on with two 10mm bolts, the electrical connector that goes to the sensor looks just like the connector on the Throttle Position Sensor. If your looking into the end of the connector with the metal retaining clip facing up 12 O'clock, you short out the two pins farthest to the right.
As to what Roman was saying about reluctors and ECU's they arent the same. So you might also need to install the cam reluctor from a motor the same year as your ECU. Reluctors are cheap, you can get them from the dealer for about $18.

[allen315]

thanks stewi ill try that that insted of me with totaly no clue.

[GOOSEY2099]

Thats exactly what i'm saying, he doesn't have power to the injectors.

[allen315]

guys thatnk for all of your effort to help but i just got a bad ECU its because i tryed to disconnect the old one and i blown it so i bout a new one same yr but never knew that my car is one of the 1st release 8g's and my Ecu is the same one as 7g's local mitsu fix it for me for free due to good idea of the manual trans here and i got a good deal from them from other parts thanks guys now im one of the proud 8g's manual i will post pics soon thanks again

[Eclipse97526]

Lucky bastard ! I was going to do a 5 spd swap, but then i bought this motor, and this rifle, and then my subs decided to weld themselves together after 4 years of pounding, so i just went and got new subs and crap too :P And with my luck of course, after i spend all my cash, my trans seal around the transmission pan is leaking fluid. and i couldnt find the leak at first. Im going to post a new thread asking for help on this issue. Ive never seen or heard of this problem before. Ill take pics and post it up, if it is not just a easy fix, EX. Swap a gasket and have the tranny flushed, than im going to be lookin to buy a 5 spd, But then again, ive been lookin for a 5 spd for 2 years now, and havent found one yet, im giving up hope in this town.

[fatal1]

congrats then welcome to the club....glad you got it in order

[allen315]

thanks guy again and damn this web site helps alot go TGC. Im so proud of it whre do you guys get that TGC decal i want one im so proud now to be in the comunity that really helps

[Eclipse97526]

let me know if you run across any more deals like that :) i could use the whole toatled out Eclipse. But mainly, just the trans. Im not going to get too crazy with my Galant, ill keep it my daily driver ( a damm sexy one ) but i think when it comes to racing, and the track, im going to keep dumping cash into my 4g63t 6bolt i got that im building. I got a 90 talon TSI AWD all set up too, its got the big break kit, and the rear big break kit installed. So its a nice rollin chassis. but got ALOT of cash to go on the motor :)

[RAZ_76]

This is where you will find a transmission dude.

http://car-part.com/