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peanotation
01-11-2003, 03:37 AM
do they make sway bars for 7G galants? if they do, where can i get my hands on one? and if they dont, is it possible to use an eclipse sway bar or something mitsu related?

peanotation
01-12-2003, 12:47 PM
ahhhh i just wanna know, are they out there??????? someone reply!

2True
01-12-2003, 01:53 PM
You mean a rear sway bar right?

OBX makes them for the 7g, it's like $100. Check here... Clickity Click ('http://www.obxracingsports.com/performance.cfm?catID=3&subcatID=17')

BEAST
01-12-2003, 02:27 PM
Is it worth the $100? Will it make that much difference in handling?

Dark Anghell
01-12-2003, 06:44 PM
I think you mean the bars that go under the car...If that's so then they do exist. They go for 280 bucks and include some of the bushings.

Oh and 280 is for front and back. The company also makes complete bushing kit for our cars. That thing goes for about 300 I think.

Company is called White Line or something like that. I have to find the url...it's written somewere in my notebook https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif

manybrews
01-12-2003, 06:54 PM
your galant already has sway bars.

g96nt
01-12-2003, 06:59 PM
only GS, and LS of some years came with a rear sway-bar

otherwise, you have just a front (which is Exacty the same as the FWD turbo 2g)

if you want the rear, you can just snatch-up the parts From a 94 GS, or Try your luck in CAPS.

every time I went into CAPS to loo up the parts, I got "no data" for the Rear #'s =0[

unless Someone has a GS VIN?

Jesse
01-13-2003, 12:49 PM
I have an upper strut tower bar, that helped a lot when cornering. But the back had some understear.

Then I got the rear lower tie bar and that helped out a lot with the understear problem.

My car now has awesome handeling.

I spent less then $75 for both bars. Definitely one of the most bangs for your $.

seth98esT
01-13-2003, 04:45 PM
do these ('http://www.procarparts.com/store/displaydetails.cfm?pid=FRSTB-95ECLIPNT2') fit? i forget...i think the FSTB will fit but i was wondering about the rear. anybody know?

BEAST
01-13-2003, 05:14 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jesse)</div><div class='quotemain'>I have an upper strut tower bar, that helped a lot when cornering. Â*But the back had some understear.

Then I got the rear lower tie bar and that helped out a lot with the understear problem.

My car now has awesome handeling.

I spent less then $75 for both bars. Â*Definitely one of the most bangs for your $.</div>
Where did you get them?

2True
01-13-2003, 05:29 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(seth)</div><div class='quotemain'>do these ('http://www.procarparts.com/store/displaydetails.cfm?pid=FRSTB-95ECLIPNT2') fit? Â*i forget...i think the FSTB will fit but i was wondering about the rear. Â*anybody know?</div>

Almost certain it will Seth.

BEAST, according to OBX.. any lower tie bar for the 95-99 Eclipse and 90-97 Accord will also fit the 7g. Look for those as you can find them waaaay cheaper.

peanotation
01-13-2003, 05:54 PM
aight, well then i got a real question
http://www.obxracingsports.com/performance...D=3&subcatID=17 ('http://www.obxracingsports.com/performance.cfm?catID=3&subcatID=17')
whats the difference between that ^
and this:
http://www.obxracingsports.com/performance...=17&subCat2ID=2 ('http://www.obxracingsports.com/performance.cfm?catid=3&subCatID=17&subCat2ID=2')

whats with the price difference? and the way they look is diff. too.

2True
01-13-2003, 06:01 PM
If you want the model with "speed holes" it will run ya $20 extra... :roll:
The $79 one will get the job done just as well.

Actually a 1.5" pipe flattened on both ends will work also https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif

seth98esT
01-13-2003, 08:10 PM
id drill my own holes for $20 :lauging:

BEAST
01-13-2003, 09:39 PM
Ok so where exactly do these things go? Under the car or behind the back seat. I think I remember seeing a galant with a bar behind his back seat. Like if you fold down your seat, the two clips the back of the seat hooks onto. Or does this actually go on the outside under the car?

2True
01-13-2003, 09:43 PM
These go on the underside, literally between your rear suspension. The one you're thinking of is a RSTB that connects the rear strut towers, works just like the front one evryone has.

BEAST
01-13-2003, 10:06 PM
I might just have to invest in one once I get some more dough.

peanotation
01-13-2003, 10:11 PM
damn, i was somewhat convinced to get one, but now i have to get one, all this good feedback on these damn things. i found a 95-99 eclipse rear lower strut bar on ebay for 45, and s/h is at 12. so it's a lot better than the obx website. just lettin everyone know

josh_877
12-29-2004, 10:21 AM
so is there any out right now that fit the rear upper back part of the galant? and what other things can be purchased to improve handling besides strut bars?

seth98esT
12-29-2004, 10:36 AM
Any 2g strut bar will work. Upper or lower. Suspension bushing kit for the 2g would greatly increase the handling. Just a pain to install.

josh_877
12-29-2004, 10:38 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(seth98esT)</div><div class='quotemain'>Any 2g strut bar will work. Â*Upper or lower. Â*Suspension bushing kit for the 2g would greatly increase the handling. Â*Just a pain to install.</div>

i thought the upper ones didnt fit, and if they it wasnt a direct bolt on their needed to be some modding done to it.

and for the lower, how do i go about installing it? i need to make my own holes?

peanotation
12-29-2004, 01:46 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(josh_877)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(seth98esT)</div><div class='quotemain'>Any 2g strut bar will work. Â*Upper or lower. Â*Suspension bushing kit for the 2g would greatly increase the handling. Â*Just a pain to install.</div>

i thought the upper ones didnt fit, and if they it wasnt a direct bolt on their needed to be some modding done to it.

and for the lower, how do i go about installing it? i need to make my own holes?</div>

the upper ones work from the 2g for both front and back, and the rear lower one works too, all direct bolt on. you might have to turn the one under the hood around

JiP
12-29-2004, 09:57 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(2True)</div><div class='quotemain'>
Actually a 1.5" pipe flattened on both ends will work also Â*:)</div>

You got that right..my lower tie bar: (total cost $4.50 HomeDepot)

http://members.aol.com/busterbot/tiebar.jpg

josh_877
12-29-2004, 10:19 PM
JIP i cant see the pic u posted https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif

JiP
12-30-2004, 01:04 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(josh_877)</div><div class='quotemain'>JIP i cant see the pic u posted Â*:(</div>

Becuase microsoft hates me and IIS brings my webserver down whenever it feels like it..hosted the pic somewhere else should work now

SamirDarji
01-01-2005, 02:36 PM
This thread got me thinking so I did some cross referencing in CAPS. Here's what I came up with:

The mitsubithi rear sway bar for the 7th gen Galant part number is MB948100. It's only about $35 through www.mitsubishiparts.net ('http://www.mitsubishiparts.net'), so it's around $45 from a dealer. That same bar is used on the 2nd Gen NON-TURBO Eclipse (d31a).

The front sway bar for the 7th gen Galant is the same as used in the 2nd Gen TURBO Eclipses (d32a,d33a,d38a)

Now, if there are aftermarket sway bars available for the 2nd Gen Eclipse, we can probably use them depending on which model they are designed for.

SamirDarji
01-01-2005, 04:28 PM
After some searching that prompted more research, here's what I've come up with:

The Galant uses the exact same front and rear sway bars as certain Eclipses, except that the thickness is varied. I'm going to list out everything I've researched from CAPS and sort it by thickness:

THICKNESS - PART# - FACTORY APPLICATIONS - NOTES

Front:
16mm - MB910391 - d31a Eclipse "Low-line" (whatever that means), d31a Eclipse RS, d39a Eclipse GS 2.4L Spyder - might fit 7th Gen Galant
18mm - MB864694 - d31a Eclipse GS, e56a Galant S/ES/LS
19mm - MB871885 - d32a Eclipse GS-T, d32a Eclipse GSX, d38a Eclipse GS-T, e56a Galant GS

Rear:
12mm - MB948100 - e56a Galant GS, d31a Eclipse GS
15mm - MR130722 - d32a Eclipse GS-T, d38a Eclipse GS-T - might fit 7th Gen Galant
18mm - MB914340 - d33a Eclipse GSX - might fit 7th Gen Galant

What this means is that a GS front bar will actually improve handling on any other trim level Galant. The "low-line" Eclipse bar seems like it also will fit if for some reason you wanted to tune your suspension for a different setup (a lot of oversteer), but someone would have to test it.

For the rear, there is only one bar that is a direct match for the Galant and that is the Galant ES/Eclipse GS 12mm bar. There is a possibility that the other Eclipse bars will fit, but someone would have to test it. That would also allow us to use aftermarket bars such as these: http://www.machv.com/rmracswaybar1.html ('http://www.machv.com/rmracswaybar1.html').

This also allows us to use Energy Suspension bushing packages for any of the bars that fit our cars: http://www.suspension.com/mitsubishi.htm ('http://www.suspension.com/mitsubishi.htm'). Notice how the size of the bars match all the sizes above.

peanotation
01-01-2005, 04:47 PM
god damn that is some good information, i might look into sway bars now 8)

question: how come the mitsubishi parts website has the rear and front sway bars for about $40, but the MachV website has it for $299.99?

SamirDarji
01-01-2005, 04:51 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(peanotation)</div><div class='quotemain'>god damn that is some good information, i might look into sway bars now Â*8)</div>
Thanks! Pain in the ass. And I thought the parts system LG Electronics used sucks. :shock:

SamirDarji
01-04-2005, 09:06 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(peanotation)</div><div class='quotemain'>question: how come the mitsubishi parts website has the rear and front sway bars for about $40, but the MachV website has it for $299.99?</div>
The MachV ones are thicker, and I guess that makes them a premium. I know the Suspension Techniques bar I got for the Altima cost around $150 just for a rear, so $300 for both isn't that bad. I plan on asking around on the fitment of the rear bar. The front one would work for sure since it just replaces the Eclipse GSX and GS-T, which is the same as the Galant GS.

Joaltava
01-21-2005, 09:58 PM
so according to SamirDarji
the eclipse gs front and rear strut bar will fit my 7g, now i have seen on ebay some company that sells the rear tie bar for our 7g's.

I want to buy the strut bar set and i plan on buying them on ebay, also the tie bar from that seller.

what model eclipse gs year will best fit our 7g https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif

Blue Ice
01-23-2005, 07:21 PM
Funny i come on the sight to start searching for FSTB's and and sway bars ,and here it is right before me. Guess it was meant to be, thanks Samir.
So i just went into the garage and looked and i think i might have the stock lower rear sway bar. i have a '94 LS, but this part looks different than the pic posted. :roll:

SamirDarji
01-28-2005, 02:06 AM
so according to SamirDarji
the eclipse gs front and rear strut bar will fit my 7g, now i have seen on ebay some company that sells the rear tie bar for our 7g's.

I want to buy the strut bar set and i plan on buying them on ebay, also the tie bar from that seller.

what model eclipse gs year will best fit our 7g https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gifIf you are talking about sway bars, yes. If you are talking about strut tower braces, I don't know.

SamirDarji
01-28-2005, 02:10 AM
Funny i come on the sight to start searching for FSTB's and and sway bars ,and here it is right before me. Guess it was meant to be, thanks Samir.
So i just went into the garage and looked and i think i might have the stock lower rear sway bar. i have a '94 LS, but this part looks different than the pic posted. :roll:That's strange. A parts search in CAPS shows "no data" for an e56a LS model (Fed or Cali). :?:

Blue Ice
01-28-2005, 07:15 PM
i've always wondered what that e56a was for, i have a 94 Galant LS which basically is sohc, all the fixings, but no spoiler. also rear drums,
( abviously :roll: )

Joaltava
01-31-2005, 08:33 PM
ok guys i dont know about you guys but i am kind of lost here :oops:

A Strut bar is the one that goes on top of the engine?
A rear strut bar is the one thats on the back side of the car on the top?
A tie bar is the back bar that goes on the bottom?

What other bars are there :?

SamirDarji
02-15-2005, 06:17 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Joaltava)</div><div class='quotemain'>ok guys i dont know about you guys but i am kind of lost here :oops: Â*

A Strut bar is the one that goes on top of the engine?
A rear strut bar is the one thats on the back side of the car on the top?
A tie bar is the back bar that goes on the bottom?

What other bars are there Â* :?</div>
FSTB = Front Strut Tower Brace - A brace that typically goes across the engine bay joining the 2 strut towers to reduce chassis flex
RSTB = Rear Strut Tower Brace - Similar to the FSTB, but designed for the rear. May be visable in the passenger compartment or the trunk.
Rear Lower Tie Bar - A piece of metal that ties some of the left and right suspension parts together to keep the suspension geometry correct.
Sway Bar - A torsion bar designed to keep the car flat during cornering. Typically reduces body roll. Available on most cars for the front and rear.

Joaltava
02-17-2005, 08:14 PM
thank you a million, you dont know how much you have help me in regards to information about the bars :thumbsup:

SamirDarji
02-17-2005, 11:40 PM
thank you a million, you dont know how much you have help me in regards to information about the bars :thumbsup:No problem. I remember back when I started tuning all the bars seemed the same. I just had to do a ton of reading. https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif

sabzi5858
02-27-2005, 10:57 PM
it should be noted that if you intend to install the rear swaybar on a non-GS galant, you will need some additional mounting hardware. for the 2g cars that came without a rear swaybar, the website for RMDSM sway bars (which are considered very good) has this to say:

Models that do not come with a rear stabilizer bar from the factory (models marked "see below") must purchase additional parts from Mitsubishi/Eagle/Dodge/Chysler in order to utilize the RMDSM stabilizer bars.
Part Desc. Mitsu No. Dodge No. Approx. $
2 Cont.Arm MB864728 MB864728 $45.00/ea.
2 End Links MB892982 MB892982 $15.00/ea.
2 Brackets MB515245 MB515245 $ 8.00/ea.
4 Nuts MS440504 MS440504 $ 1.00/ea.
4 Bolts MF241251 MBF241251 $ 1.00/ea
Approximate TOTAL $145.00

i can't say if these parts will work on our cars, but if you got the same parts for the GS, it will most likely work. (i have not checked to see if they are the same or not)

http://www.rernetworking.com/rmdsm/stabilizerbars.html ('http://www.rernetworking.com/rmdsm/stabilizerbars.html')

sabzi5858
03-10-2005, 10:13 PM
i just checked up the part numbers in CAPS for the galant GS and indeed, they are the same part numbers, so this should be a go. enjoy!