Rear bumper and rear crash car?

[platano]

if i want to install the cyber 1 bumper..
http://www.grounddynamics.com/Merchant/99-03mgcyb2rs.jpg

do i have to remove the rear crash bar? what modifications need to be done to the rear to fit the cyber 1 bumper? i need to know prior to puchasing this aftermarket bumper. i did a search but weilded no results for a direct answer to this.

thanks

[fatal1]

for that rear? no it is only a lip i believe

[platano]

how is it a lip? the entire rear bumper looks shorter than stock. look right under the license plate.

[pinoyesv6]

that is a full bumper cover replacement, not a lip.

i think you don't have to cut out the rear bumper itself but you do have to remove the foam that goes between the bumper and the bumper cover.

[Jeffylou87]

I concurr with pinoy..

[platano]

that is a full bumper cover replacement, not a lip.

i think you don't have to cut out the rear bumper itself but you do have to remove the foam that goes between the bumper and the bumper cover.

thats exactly what i want, if its true

[RAZ_76]

If you don't have body work experience, this will not be something like bolt on. Just so you know. It will require trimming of the bumper in places, adding in others. They are not direct fit and the holes are not pre drilled to attach it.

[99 galant]

the white g in that pic is sick, i would suggest the Cyber 1 rear but the Cyber 2 front, if i had the money thats what i would do

edit: i always thought the Cyber 1 rear was just a lip... the 2 is the full bumper

[RAZ_76]

It's a full bumper. I had one but sent it back to VIS after it arrived damged.

[Alexey]

It is a full bumper. If your car is USDM, the rear crashbar will have to come off for the kit to fit properly.

[platano]

i think you don't have to cut out the rear bumper itself but you do have to remove the foam that goes between the bumper and the bumper cover.

Alexey:
"If your car is USDM, the rear crashbar will have to come off for the kit to fit properly."




Ok, Who is right???

can someone who has this rear bumper please help clear this up. please.

[RAZ_76]

You just remove the foam not the crash bar. Censee and Vegas Matt have that bumper.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/censee/HIGHENDSIG3.jpg

[Alexey]

Alexey:
"If your car is USDM, the rear crashbar will have to come off for the kit to fit properly."




Ok, Who is right???

can someone who has this rear bumper please help clear this up. please.

I have this bumper. The bar had to come off.

[2kgalant]

I have the same bumper, everything had to come off.

[RAZ_76]

Ouch! talk about unsafe for the rear passengers if you ever get rear ended. You know that if you guys ever get rear ended and someone dies as a result of that safety measure being removed by you, you will get charged with manslaughter???

[platano]

...if you guys ever get rear ended and someone dies as a result of that safety measure being removed by you, you will get charged with manslaughter???

really? Ouch!

[G-spot]

All you need is removing the foam mold. if it still have fitment issues, trimming the hard plastic from the crash bar is much safer than removing it completely...

[whokilledhoughes]

i had to remove everything...there was no way on putting it with a bar...u would have to redo the whole bumper...

heres a pic of when i first installed it...notice there is no room for a bar..

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b156/whokilledhoughes/DSCN1336.jpg

[Alexey]

Ouch! talk about unsafe for the rear passengers if you ever get rear ended. You know that if you guys ever get rear ended and someone dies as a result of that safety measure being removed by you, you will get charged with manslaughter???

Not that I ever have anyone ride in the back anyway! The only time I have something in the back seat is when I go shopping, the trunk is taken up by the subs! :-D

[Censee]

i had to remove everything...there was no way on putting it with a bar...u would have to redo the whole bumper...

heres a pic of when i first installed it...notice there is no room for a bar..

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b156/whokilledhoughes/DSCN1336.jpg

same here..... theyve crashed my rear bumper pretty hard a couple of times actually, and to my suprise the damage wasnt as bad... but then again i layed several thick layers of fiberglass throiughout the entire inside of my rear bumper.... but yea crashbar has to come off, its way shorter than stock

[platano]

censee where did u get ur bumper from? or where do u recommend the best place online to get it from? and do u think it'll look good with super vr4 side skirts, or no? thats what i currently have

[Censee]

yea i actually had the super vr4 sides along time ago and they matched niceley in the lowness... i got mine directkly from erebuni years ago...

[platano]

i'm thinking of ordering the Cyber 1 rear bumper that VIS has on their website...anyone else got theirs from there?