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XXL4G64
08-18-2008, 12:03 PM
i was thinking and a friend of mine said he dont really know so i wanted to know if there is any change with the nt head vs a turbo head..

mko
08-18-2008, 01:06 PM
Turbo head has more agresive cams, or you can say the valves open higher

mysticj
08-18-2008, 09:59 PM
NT and Turbo heads are the same..except for the 4g61/4g67 which have smaller combustion chambers. Turbo cams are not the most aggressive, the 94 Galant GS cams are most aggressive OEM cams known to man.

mko
08-18-2008, 11:20 PM
NT and Turbo heads are the same..except for the 4g61/4g67 which have smaller combustion chambers. Turbo cams are not the most aggressive, the 94 Galant GS cams are most aggressive OEM cams known to man.

What r u talking about? There are no 61/67 turbo heads-these are from mirage 1.8L and thats why they are smaller. The 94 GS Galant has Dual cams that are no different than any other 4g63 non turbo head / n/a 1G 4g63 Eclipse/. Only the turbo 4g63 have agresive profile cam shafts.

mysticj
08-19-2008, 12:32 PM
What r u talking about? There are no 61/67 turbo heads-these are from mirage 1.8L and thats why they are smaller. The 94 GS Galant has Dual cams that are no different than any other 4g63 non turbo head / n/a 1G 4g63 Eclipse/. Only the turbo 4g63 have agresive profile cam shafts.

67 are only NA, 61 came either NA or Turbo. The heads themselves are the same, NA or Turbo, except for the 61/67 and 2G. The 2G has smaller intake ports than the 1G heads, the 61/67 has smaller combustion chambers but have 1G intake ports. Turbo cams have 252* on both intake and exhaust with the 'C' and 'D' stamped cams have the best profiles. The 94 GS has 260*/264* cams with letter 'G' stamped on them.

1G Turbo/NA Cams (http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-forum/184658-cams.html)

I'll post the 94 GS cam profiles later.
Nevermind, here. (https://www.thegalantcenter.org/showthread.php?t=13984)

mko
08-20-2008, 01:53 AM
So, the actual 4g64 dohc head has more agresive cams than any turbo model. that was good to know. thanks

DOHCstunr
08-20-2008, 11:04 AM
geee.... where could a guy get some cams like that?

bmore303
08-20-2008, 11:09 AM
Lol stunr, I'm a bit upset no one has purchased that complete setup yet.

mysticj
08-20-2008, 12:08 PM
Well those cams came from my GS head before I swap to a 4g67 head. I search a few service manuals and Cam ID for those cams aren't listed. They listed the cams for the GS as "K' and "H" but same duration.

mko
08-28-2008, 06:52 PM
67 are only NA, 61 came either NA or Turbo. The heads themselves are the same, NA or Turbo, except for the 61/67 and 2G. The 2G has smaller intake ports than the 1G heads, the 61/67 has smaller combustion chambers but have 1G intake ports. Turbo cams have 252* on both intake and exhaust with the 'C' and 'D' stamped cams have the best profiles. The 94 GS has 260*/264* cams with letter 'G' stamped on them.

1G Turbo/NA Cams (http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-forum/184658-cams.html)

I'll post the 94 GS cam profiles later.
Nevermind, here. (https://www.thegalantcenter.org/showthread.php?t=13984)


Yo man, I hope you are right about the GS cams, cuz I got them today with the cam gears. I was gonna pull the whole harness but it had ABS and i didnt wanna play with that shit.

XXL4G64
09-01-2008, 10:59 AM
something else i wanted to know that is off from this you know how the 8gs have L,2,3,D,R,P can i use that as well or i have to do something else with the tranny

seth98esT
09-01-2008, 11:37 AM
Huh?

DOHCstunr
09-01-2008, 02:20 PM
what?

JDM4G64T
09-01-2008, 04:22 PM
Do what with them??

mysticj
09-02-2008, 05:20 PM
Yo man, I hope you are right about the GS cams, cuz I got them today with the cam gears. I was gonna pull the whole harness but it had ABS and i didnt wanna play with that shit.

What letter(s) are stamp on those cams. I look it up awhile back and the GS cams are 260/264, but problems there are two kinds of 260/264 cams: Cams 'H/K' and 'G', IIRC. The different is the amount of lift...

XXL4G64
09-07-2008, 09:26 AM
On the 8g's On the shifter it say L,1,2,3,R,P and i want to know can i put that in my 7G

mko
09-07-2008, 11:25 AM
you can install it with some modifications, but itll be only cosmetic mod. youll still be going thru 7g's gear selector.

And what does that have to do with head differences thread?

XXL4G64
09-08-2008, 11:19 AM
i was saying it was off from this but who does make come good cams HKS or RPW'S

bmore303
09-08-2008, 12:46 PM
RPW makes SOHC cams....HKS makes DOHC cams...this is getting annoying

mysticj
09-09-2008, 11:29 PM
4G6x DOHC

Intake
A-26/46 (252) 35.49 9.5mm
B-21/43 (244) 35.20 9.0mm
C-23/57 (260) 35.79 10mm
D-21/51 (252) 35.49 9.5mm
E-16/48 (244) 35.20 9.0mm
F-26/38 (244) 35.20 9.0mm
G-18/62 (260) 35.79 10mm
H-Unassign
I-Unassign
J-21/51 (252) 34.91 8.5mm
K-18/62 (260) 35.38 9.3mm

Exhaust
A-55/9 (244) 35.20 9.0mm
B-Unassign
C-57/15 (252) 35.49 9.5mm
D-54/18 (252) 35.49 9.5mm
E-43/17 (240) 34.91 8.5mm
F-53/07 (240) 34.91 8.5mm
G-63/21 (260) 35.49 9.5mm
H-63/21 (260) 34.91 8.5mm
I-Unassign
J-57/15 (252) 34.91 8.5mm
K-Unassign

The intake 'C' is most likely from a non-US Mitsu.
Listed is the open and close, duration, cam height, and lift.

mysticj
09-16-2008, 12:41 PM
Unless anyone notice, I post a list of all the known oem mitsu cams.

djplay
09-16-2008, 02:28 PM
Unless anyone notice, I post a list of all the known oem mitsu cams.

Your setup is damn impressive. I'm surprised you didnt just go MIVEC as well considering what youve done so far.

mko
09-16-2008, 05:41 PM
Your setup is damn impressive. I'm surprised you didnt just go MIVEC as well considering what youve done so far.


What the hell are you talking about? There is no MIVEC heads or ECUs available for any engine till 99-00 or even later. MIvec started been used in engines located on the passengers side in the engine bay, and our engine is on the drivers side. The most we can do is DOHC head, big ass cams (264, 272, 280) and oversized valves.

mysticj
09-28-2008, 07:36 AM
Your setup is damn impressive. I'm surprised you didnt just go MIVEC as well considering what youve done so far.

There is no MIVEC for the early 4G63 DOHC heads. I just did a 4G67 head swap and lucky to find "G" cams in my old GS head.

kolio
09-28-2008, 11:50 AM
the only MIVEC 7G's were the jdm 6a12 N/A

XXL4G64
09-28-2008, 11:51 PM
what would you say is best stage cams for a 4g64 block with the 2g head because i was going 2 go to the shop tomorrow and tell the guy that is going 2 rebuild my motor