How To Switch Odometers (video Tutorial)

[RAZ_76]

Do you want to change clusters and want to keep your original miles but don't know how. Well now you do. It's a very simple procedure that requires no skill at all, anyone can do this. Only tools that you will need is a Phillips and a flat head screw driver. This is not Illegal to do because you are not trying to roll the miles like back in the day or temper with the actual odometer. You are just taking yours out and installing it in a new cluster.



Proceed at your own risk!



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[99 galant]

nice, so basically people could go illegal with this... something i wouldnt do or suggest. but its a good thing that you can keep your origional miles like that

nice job Ray

[RAZ_76]

This is not illegal because you are not trying to roll the miles like back in the day or mess with the odometer itself to read different miles to sell the car with lower miles to make a bigger profit dude.. You are just swapping them out, just like you would if you bought another dashboard and swapped the Vin's on it. I would not teach people how to do something illegal.

[greddy]

great tutorial !

[RAZ_76]

nice, so basically people could go illegal with this... something i wouldnt do or suggest. but its a good thing that you can keep your origional miles like that

nice job Ray

What's so illegal about this??

[99 galant]

no i mean your making this not illegal anymore by getting the true miles of your G into your car... anyone could sell a G with 200k miles with a 80k cluster... i said it wrong the first time my bad

[RAZ_76]

ok. Well you can make this illegal but that is not what I intended when I made the tutorial.

[fliegendaffe]

great tutorial !
x2

nice and simple

[polishmafia]

You have very girly hands.

...and its a good tutorial vid. Nice work bro! :)

[RAZ_76]

You have very girly hands.

...and its a good tutorial vid. Nice work bro! :)

Yeah and your farts make no sound...what's new...:smt115......:lol:

[G-spot]

Good tutorial Raz.

Only thing that was wierd was when I swapped mine with a 99-01 4 cylinder my oddometer was the same as my old v6 one. Shouldn't the oddometer be recorded in the ECU? I don't know, maybe the new one had exactly the same mileage as my old one who knows? If so, that was some coincidence.

[RAZ_76]

Good tutorial Raz.

Only thing that was wierd was when I swapped mine with a 99-01 4 cylinder my oddometer was the same as my old v6 one. Shouldn't the oddometer be recorded in the ECU? I don't know, maybe the new one had exactly the same mileage as my old one who knows? If so, that was some coincidence.

No, it will not change. The miles are stored in the odometer you saw me pull out. That is why I made the tutorial. I tried all 3 of my Galants before i did it. After the 8G galants are 10 years old, this tutorial will be valuable to thieves because after tenyears of that car made you don't have to have a odometer reading to prove the original miles when you sell it, so someone crooked can use this and put lower miles on that galant only to make more money. So after 2009 people really need to check into this if you are looking to purchase a 99 Galant that might have less miles then you think it should have. At least that is the way the law is here in Oklahoma.

[airborneparainf82]

http://pic1.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1172/5252984/19820708/331546431.jpg

only thing ray... on the 02-03 gauge cluster, the indicator lights for the fogs and whatnot in the area i circled in the picture, they are cut out of the main face piece, and if you just got a bezel and new gauges, those indicators would just be lights and not the actual symbol for each thing.

[99 galant]

ok. Well you can make this illegal but that is not what I intended when I made the tutorial.

i know that i wasnt saying you were, lets just forget my comments lol

what i meant was your making buying a new cluster legal

[Galante]

Great vid Ray! Hands down.

[RAZ_76]

http://pic1.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1172/5252984/19820708/331546431.jpg

only thing ray... on the 02-03 gauge cluster, the indicator lights for the fogs and whatnot in the area i circled in the picture, they are cut out of the main face piece, and if you just got a bezel and new gauges, those indicators would just be lights and not the actual symbol for each thing.


Sorry bro, I'm just a little confused to what you are saying. Maybe I'm retarded. Try Spanish...:lol: jk Are you saying that I cant use a bezel on the 02 custer? The 99-01 and 02-03 clusters are the same underneth. I have a 99-01 bezel on my 02-03 cluster and all lights are showing.

[airborneparainf82]

hold on, lemme take a picture of mine. it'll make more sense :)

uno momento por favor!

[RAZ_76]

Estoy esperando!

[airborneparainf82]

http://pic1.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1172/5252984/19820708/331550005.jpg

ok, the turn signals, fog light indicator and whatever else is up there, those patterns for the symbol are cut from the entire gauge piece. if you were to take that off, and replace it with a 99-01 bezel with aftermarket gauges, then those holes on the bezel for those symbols would just be open with just a light behind it, instead of, for example, a turn signal symbol. make sense?

[RAZ_76]

Why would they?? The faces on the 99-01 and 02-03 are the same except the color and the fact that one is in 3 in one in one piece, right? Are you concerned that the bezel would cover those or that the aftermarket face wont ?? I personally don't see why they wouldn't

[airborneparainf82]

http://pic1.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1172/5252984/19820708/331551916.jpg

ok this is my last attempt because after this, until I learn more spanish I don't know how else to explain it :D

ok, notice the holes in the bezel. your saying on the 02-03 gauge cluster, that you could remove that entire blue piece and replace it with the bezel from a 99-01 with aftermarket gauges. now yes, the gauges, spedo, tach fuel etc would all work fine. but in the picture here where I have circled, thats where the turn signal idicator and the fog light indicators would be.

now if you go back to the picture i took of my 02-03 gauges, the indicators are actually cut from that entire piece that has the gauges in to it, so that a light comes on behind it and shines though. But now, with the new gauges and the 99-01 bezel, you no longer have anything there to create the turn signal indicator. You just have those 2 holes and you would just see, for instance a yellow light come on and off for your turn signal, instead of a turn signal indicator symbol.

does that make sense now?

[fliegendaffe]

No, it will not change. The miles are stored in the odometer you saw me pull out. That is why I made the tutorial. I tried all 3 of my Galants before i did it. After the 8G galants are 10 years old, this tutorial will be valuable to thieves because after tenyears of that car made you don't have to have a odometer reading to prove the original miles when you sell it, so someone crooked can use this and put lower miles on that galant only to make more money. So after 2009 people really need to check into this if you are looking to purchase a 99 Galant that might have less miles then you think it should have. At least that is the way the law is here in Oklahoma.
but technically the '99 G's are already 10 yrs old. but it'd be pretty shady still if someone did it.

[fliegendaffe]

ok this is my last attempt because after this, until I learn more spanish I don't know how else to explain it :D

ok, notice the holes in the bezel. your saying on the 02-03 gauge cluster, that you could remove that entire blue piece and replace it with the bezel from a 99-01 with aftermarket gauges. now yes, the gauges, spedo, tach fuel etc would all work fine. but in the picture here where I have circled, thats where the turn signal idicator and the fog light indicators would be.

now if you go back to the picture i took of my 02-03 gauges, the indicators are actually cut from that entire piece that has the gauges in to it, so that a light comes on behind it and shines though. But now, with the new gauges and the 99-01 bezel, you no longer have anything there to create the turn signal indicator. You just have those 2 holes and you would just see, for instance a yellow light come on and off for your turn signal, instead of a turn signal indicator symbol.

does that make sense now?
you're correct man (i believe). though I haven't seen behind that blue before myself, i know on my '99 there are black pieces behind my trim. so the whole cluster would have to be replaced. i think

[G-spot]

http://pic1.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1172/5252984/19820708/331550005.jpg

ok, the turn signals, fog light indicator and whatever else is up there, those patterns for the symbol are cut from the entire gauge piece. if you were to take that off, and replace it with a 99-01 bezel with aftermarket gauges, then those holes on the bezel for those symbols would just be open with just a light behind it, instead of, for example, a turn signal symbol. make sense?
Do you see the black plastic piece on top of the white GTZ cluster? That piece is called the bezel cover holder and it's only avaliable on the 99-01. The 02-03 model only has a rim cover. If you look where the turn signal are, that "screen" is part of the bezel, not the cover. So you can still use your 02-03 gauge with a 99-01 bezel cover. Not too hard to understand but it is confusing at first. Personally I like the blue housing with a black bezel.
http://i23.ebayimg.com/06/i/000/ce/13/2b6b_1.JPG

[RAZ_76]

If anything you just cut them out of your 02-03 one and glue them on the back of the bezel, simple. Put the bezel on, get a pencil and draw the in line. Take bezel off and cut on the outside of the in line. There you go.

[G-spot]

^ like that

[kolio]

good tut. i wonder if there is anything like this for the 7G....... hmm time to start looking at it

[airborneparainf82]

If anything you just cut them out of your 02-03 one and glue them on the back of the bezel, simple. Put the bezel on, get a pencil and draw the in line. Take bezel off and cut on the outside of the in line. There you go.

yeah, i had thought about that, but i figured it would look better with white face gauges and those black screens like on the 99-01 bezel.

g-spot: i think i understand what you were saying. but i was wanting to do aftermarket white gauge faces, but I currently have the 02 gauge cluster. oh well, i have a whole new cluster coming now and i think that will be the best choice imo :)

[seth98esT]

7g odo is not digital, its mechanical/electrical and is a pita to remove. Plus theres only one type of 7g clusters, so no real need to do it.