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ESR2005
10-19-2008, 04:20 PM
im in the process of doing a dohc hyundai headswap and a turbo to the g along with the vrg kit and shaved engine bay and wire tuck ...heres my progress so far ill keep u updated and i hope u will help me out if i get stuck with the headswap thanks ..heres some pics
edit pics added ...
my motor with the hyundai head on it i paint stripped it and shaved the dohc16v off it head still has to b sent out and cleaned up and machined its just thrown on there now lol mad greasy
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii222/esr2005/021.jpg
my 5spd which is already finished
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii222/esr2005/022.jpg
some pics of the bay in process of bein shaved
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii222/esr2005/023.jpg
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii222/esr2005/024.jpg
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii222/esr2005/025.jpg
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii222/esr2005/026-1.jpg
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii222/esr2005/027.jpg
my airbags just chillen lol
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii222/esr2005/028.jpg
old head and a few power adders
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii222/esr2005/029-1.jpg
donor hyundai motor 350$ not bad eh
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii222/esr2005/030.jpg
this was wat it looked like
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii222/esr2005/069-1.jpg
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii222/esr2005/068-1.jpg
mmmmm..... bondo
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii222/esr2005/016.jpg
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii222/esr2005/020.jpg
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii222/esr2005/022-1.jpg
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii222/esr2005/021-1.jpg
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii222/esr2005/023-1.jpg
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii222/esr2005/024-1.jpg
its gettin there..

guynlidia2006
10-19-2008, 04:38 PM
well i am guessing it is still gonna look like it used to look but not under the hood... looks like you are going in a good direction... but motor work is not my speciality...

greddy
10-19-2008, 04:55 PM
Dope, can't wait to see the finished product.

Stewi
10-19-2008, 06:04 PM
Looks good so far.

I have a few words of advice. first off, did you weld up all the seams under the hood?? It appears that you did, but I cant tell for sure because you started grinding it already.

If you did....I am saying this honestly as a friend, if you ever get into a front end accident, you are going to be seriously injured. The reason everything is spot welded is because the structure was engineered to absorb impact during an accident. By welding everything closed, you are fortifying the structure and therefor limiting its ability to absorb impact, that additional force will be distributed into the passenger compartment if not absorbed by the front rails/aprons.

With that being said, im guessing after its all said and done there is going to be a layer of bondo in there to smooth everything out, if you daily drive the car, over time that bondo is going to crack. No matter how much you weld up front, there will always be some flex in the body and the flexing will crack the bondo.

Aside from that man do it up big if thats what your going for, I think it will be cool for a show car.

Gtorque
10-19-2008, 07:15 PM
that G looks sick i like it

silver01g
10-19-2008, 08:26 PM
Hey what brand wheels do you have?

SkylineG1
10-19-2008, 11:05 PM
Looks like you have a lot of work ahead of you. Good luck

Ivory8g
10-19-2008, 11:10 PM
vrg kit? like front sides and rear?

ESR2005
10-19-2008, 11:20 PM
i have the rear i just need the front and sides with the lip and i have 19in privat netz

csj
10-20-2008, 08:50 AM
I happen to have a VRG front (comes stock on European models) lying in my mother's garage... two bolt holes are broken and it's got a ~5-6cm (2-2.3") crack on the underside, but is still usable if given a little work. Only problem is it's in Norway, and could be costly to ship. I have no idea what would be a reasonable price for this bumper or what it'd cost to ship internationally, but I can check if you're interested. The colour is burgundy red, if it matters.

greddy
10-20-2008, 09:01 AM
I happen to have a VRG front (comes stock on European models) lying in my mother's garage... two bolt holes are broken and it's got a ~5-6cm (2-2.3") crack on the underside, but is still usable if given a little work. Only problem is it's in Norway, and could be costly to ship. I have no idea what would be a reasonable price for this bumper or what it'd cost to ship internationally, but I can check if you're interested. The colour is burgundy red, if it matters.

Sorry to steal this thread momentarily, but if he doesn't want it, I'll take it, name a price.

boostzealot
10-24-2008, 07:44 AM
any updates at all? you gonna tuck the engine bay or what? when i tucked mine i was going to shave the bay but the motor was done before i thought it was going to be and i really wanted to get that bitch back in there. anyway heres a pic of mine and how my tuck turned out. good luck with yours bro. the g looked sick before, i hope you can improve on an already great looking car.

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k232/boostzealot/new%20beginnings/S8002601.jpg

Ruslik
10-24-2008, 12:11 PM
any updates at all? you gonna tuck the engine bay or what? when i tucked mine i was going to shave the bay but the motor was done before i thought it was going to be and i really wanted to get that bitch back in there. anyway heres a pic of mine and how my tuck turned out. good luck with yours bro. the g looked sick before, i hope you can improve on an already great looking car.

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k232/boostzealot/new%20beginnings/S8002601.jpg

is that a oil reserve tank where battery used to be??

Ruslik
10-24-2008, 12:12 PM
is that a oil reserve tank where battery used to be??

wait that was stupid question
i should spend more time looking where the hoses connect to
but aside from that what is that thing

Stewi
10-24-2008, 01:44 PM
wait that was stupid question
i should spend more time looking where the hoses connect to
but aside from that what is that thing

well you had the oil part right

its an oil catch can. its purpose is to collect any oil "blow-by" and prevent it from going back into the intake.

boostzealot
10-24-2008, 05:44 PM
bingo

lonestar22
10-26-2008, 08:40 PM
ya well if he crashes his car he's fucked eitherway putting so much money into it. might as well hurt physically as much as its gonna hurt da pocket

boostzealot
10-27-2008, 06:51 AM
man the bay is looking so good. are you helping them out at all with this? where are you relocating your fuse box to? good luck on the wire tuck bro, that shit is clean already.

ESR2005
10-27-2008, 11:10 AM
thanks bro
i relocated the fusebox under the dash and i have some new pics ill add em tonite the bay is all primered up

ESR2005
01-21-2009, 12:51 PM
heres some more pics of my progress
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii222/esr2005/027-1.jpg
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii222/esr2005/028-1.jpg
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii222/esr2005/029-2.jpg
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii222/esr2005/030-1.jpg
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii222/esr2005/036-1.jpg
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii222/esr2005/037.jpg
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii222/esr2005/039.jpg
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii222/esr2005/014-2.jpg
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii222/esr2005/011-1.jpg

02galant
01-21-2009, 01:15 PM
AWESOME JOB! Looks good.

seth98esT
01-21-2009, 01:23 PM
Thats hot, love the new look. Hope that shaved bay works out for you, Id be worried that it would crack :/

kolio
01-21-2009, 01:36 PM
wow, that looks great!

4g63lover
01-21-2009, 02:08 PM
The car looks great.

Not feeling the shaved bay though. How much weight did using all that bondo add??

I love the valve cover, it doesn;t even look like a Hyundai head.

Galantfan88
01-21-2009, 03:58 PM
Wow looking really nice, keep up the good work man

beam514
01-21-2009, 04:06 PM
oh dear

quite sexy

4g63lover
01-21-2009, 05:37 PM
the nifty grille Dave is selling would look fucking nice with your set-up IMO.

Anyways, keep me updated on the turbo install I'm interested in what kind of cutting you need to do to the VR-G for a front mount.

Stewi
01-21-2009, 06:08 PM
looking good so far man.

get yourself a hyperground kit and run all your ground wires to it and then ground it somewhere out of sight so that you dont have to sand that fresh paint in the engine bay down to bare metal.

ESR2005
01-21-2009, 07:00 PM
yea the bondo in reality didnt add that much weight maybe like 5lbs not even
hense thats why its called lightweight body filler lol and it shouldnt crack it wasnt just bondo i wen thru all the steps i do this for a living i pretty much gaurantee it will not crack theres long strand filler and short strand filler under the bondo too strong as fuck lol and you will like the engine bay better when the motor is in lol

greddy
01-21-2009, 08:30 PM
That looks great!

Stewi
01-21-2009, 08:44 PM
I dont know what type of resources you have available to you, but I bet you wanna keep that engine bay looking perfect. If you have access to a lift, I would drop the subframe out of the car, get the motor and tranny bolted up to the subframe and using the lift, lower the car over the motor and tranny.

This will prevent you from damaging that fresh body work in the engine bay. I have had my motor out 7+ times and I have never ever been able to put it in thru the top without something hitting the inside of the engine bay and scratching it up.

platano
01-21-2009, 08:53 PM
i love pictures. great job so far. and that valve cover looks the business.

more pics pleeeeeze..

greddy
01-21-2009, 08:55 PM
What kind of grill are you gonna get?

ESR2005
01-22-2009, 08:44 AM
idk im tryin to find a grill atm prob just the one that goes with that bumper and yes i do have access to a lift and thats how i planned on puttin the motor in more pics to come as of this weekend my fiberglass enclosure is gettin airbrushed with the boston skyline with a "rising sun" as the basckground but yea thank you lol hopefully my gt35r comes in this week

greddy
01-22-2009, 11:08 AM
I have an old style grill that you can buy if you want

00galantguy
01-22-2009, 02:52 PM
Drool....

Stewi
01-22-2009, 04:53 PM
idk im tryin to find a grill atm prob just the one that goes with that bumper and yes i do have access to a lift and thats how i planned on puttin the motor in more pics to come as of this weekend my fiberglass enclosure is gettin airbrushed with the boston skyline with a "rising sun" as the basckground but yea thank you lol hopefully my gt35r comes in this week

Hey if you paid for your 35R already but the shop hasnt gotten them in yet, consider cancelling the 35R and going with a Precision HP6262. Its less money than a 35R (new vs new) spools faster than a 35R and makes power like a 37R. Do some research on EVOM, give it a another month or two and the 35R ll be a thing of the past.

seth98esT
01-22-2009, 06:22 PM
Who sells the HP6262, I dont see it on their site. I was going to go with the 35R as well.

Can you post up some dyno sheets or the compressor map?

IVORY_G
01-22-2009, 07:03 PM
Nice work!

Gtorque
01-22-2009, 07:18 PM
wow looks great!!!

Stewi
01-22-2009, 08:17 PM
Who sells the HP6262, I dont see it on their site. I was going to go with the 35R as well.

Can you post up some dyno sheets or the compressor map?

Seth its sold my a few vendors

Nolimitmotorsport.com ( I recommend them, as I get 90% of my parts from them)

AWD Motorsports and Extreme Turbo Systems (ETS)

I dont have a compressor map or a dyno sheet, but if you search EVO, this is the new #1 turbo for EVO's and DSM's. I was on the phone with precision's tech support yesterday because I needed a part for my SC61 and I was asking the guy about the 6262, he said that it spools like a SC61 but makes power like a PT67. My tuner called me and told me he tuned a 91 GVR4 with the 6262, DSM link, 93 octane and meth, 27psi made 585whp. He said the powerband never fell off, he said the power climbed all the way to redline without a flatline.

There are stock motor EVO XI's making 500whp on straight 93, ECU flash and no meth with the 6262. if I cant reach my power goals with the SC61 im gonna get the 6262 for sure. The turbo is very efficient and holds crazy boost. AWD motorsports made 750whp on E85 and over 800whp on E85 & meth (I think meth) but your talking boost levels around 45psi. Its insane that the turbo can sustain that and still make power.

end thread hijack.....

ESR2005
02-05-2009, 06:00 PM
heres a few more updates lol i got my trunk airbrushed
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii222/esr2005/093.jpg
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii222/esr2005/094.jpg
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii222/esr2005/097.jpg
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii222/esr2005/099.jpg
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii222/esr2005/100.jpg

seth98esT
02-05-2009, 06:04 PM
Thats a pretty dope trunk, keep it up!

Boosted
02-05-2009, 06:05 PM
It's coming together real nice. Keep up the work dude.

IVORY_G
02-05-2009, 07:54 PM
That trunk is wild, looks good :)

ESR2005
09-27-2009, 09:58 PM
so my motor finally runs i have to update the pics but i posted a vid of it first starting b4 i cleaned up the wiring just search jdmgalant2 on youtube lemme know what you think

Ivory8g
09-27-2009, 10:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9hfM0a0t58

there you go. sounds mean!

4g63lover
09-27-2009, 10:36 PM
sounds sick!

menace
09-28-2009, 04:20 AM
Man, that is one awesome build you have there. I'm drooling here lol

Way Fast Galant
09-28-2009, 04:39 AM
sweet ride man. where abouts in boston are you from. im in west roxbury. anyway thats a bad ass ride man.

ESR2005
09-28-2009, 09:55 AM
And i used an evo bely not a galant one and it worked

ESR2005
09-28-2009, 10:23 AM
belt"

ESR2005
09-28-2009, 10:24 AM
im from boston im always at rt16 chelsea but not with my car yet just a few of my friends hatchs and dsms

Stewi
09-28-2009, 11:03 AM
And i used an evo bely not a galant one and it worked

I still dont understand why people dont use the correct belt. Just because something fits doesnt make it the correct one. The problem with using the EVO belt is there isnt ENOUGH slack in the belt, which means the tensioner pulley doesnt move far enough to the right (toward the front of the car) and the point at which the belt is deflected is not correct. Its not like the 94 GS belt costs more than the EVO belt. The reason everyone wants to use the EVO belt is so they can do like you did and get a dope jdm aftermarket belt from HKS, gates or power enterprise, whats great about those belts is if you look at a majority of the most powerful and fastest EVO's in the world and they all use stock OEM belts, that tells you something.

spardavr4
09-28-2009, 01:50 PM
Nice bro! You'll have to tell me where you snagged your parts. I live about 25 minutes away from Boston, and go to school in Boston. I bought JDM heads from your friend Zobgel.

sponcar
09-28-2009, 03:07 PM
damn I really love this car.....
I have seen this in other forums or I think it was on myspace.... and man.... I love all those colors matched and I like how ure dash looks like.....!!!
CONGRATS......

ESR2005
09-28-2009, 04:07 PM
yea im gettin rid of my interior hopefully and doing an evo 9 full recaro interior dash and all gonna make it look identical to an evo inside

4g63lover
09-28-2009, 04:22 PM
yea im gettin rid of my interior hopefully and doing an evo 9 full recaro interior dash and all gonna make it look identical to an evo inside

you know what would be cooler?







an LHD VR-4 dash..

blue8g
09-28-2009, 04:32 PM
^x1,000,000,000

johnygezony
09-28-2009, 04:36 PM
OoOoOo its looking so fresh !

Stewi
09-28-2009, 07:25 PM
you know what would be cooler?







an LHD VR-4 dash..

a LHD VR4 dash is cool but you have to look at things like this as an outside who doesnt know about galants. If you had a LHD swapped VR4 interior and you let a car show judge look at it, I bet you anything he wouldnt know the different from a stock 8g interior unless you told him. On the flip side, an EVO dash/cluster etc is easily identifiable and different, you will also need a ton of fab work to make it fit, so that wont go unnoticed. if I had to do it, it would either be a RHD conversion or an EVO conversion. I can tell you its gonna be a huge undertaking doing the EVO dash, the shape is totally different and I think its a little less wide/deep.

DOHCstunr
09-28-2009, 10:27 PM
a LHD VR4 dash is cool but you have to look at things like this as an outside who doesnt know about galants. If you had a LHD swapped VR4 interior and you let a car show judge look at it, I bet you anything he wouldnt know the different from a stock 8g interior unless you told him. On the flip side, an EVO dash/cluster etc is easily identifiable and different, you will also need a ton of fab work to make it fit, so that wont go unnoticed. if I had to do it, it would either be a RHD conversion or an EVO conversion. I can tell you its gonna be a huge undertaking doing the EVO dash, the shape is totally different and I think its a little less wide/deep.

I'm with you brian.
When my black GS was in its prime, it was pretty much flawless. I spent an entire day detailing every single part of the car, even cleaning the suspension and detailing every jamb, and nook and cranny of the car. I mean the car looked absolutly.... stunning lol.
I put it in a car show the next day, and with all the work i put into it, and $.
I lost to a BONE STOCK EVO 8
and the evo was dirty too. lol.
I guess where I went wrong was not listing the hundred or so mods that I had done to it. I put so much effort into making every mod seamless, that i suppose judges though that it just came that way.

Was there crowds around the evo? no. Was there crowds around my car? Yes.
Was funny to see people walk right by my black GS, then stop dead in their tracks, then take a few steps backwards to spend 20 minutes admiring my car.

Boosted
10-01-2009, 11:46 AM
I still dont understand why people dont use the correct belt. Just because something fits doesnt make it the correct one. The problem with using the EVO belt is there isnt ENOUGH slack in the belt, which means the tensioner pulley doesnt move far enough to the right (toward the front of the car) and the point at which the belt is deflected is not correct. Its not like the 94 GS belt costs more than the EVO belt. The reason everyone wants to use the EVO belt is so they can do like you did and get a dope jdm aftermarket belt from HKS, gates or power enterprise, whats great about those belts is if you look at a majority of the most powerful and fastest EVO's in the world and they all use stock OEM belts, that tells you something.

The world's fastest Evo 8 uses an aftermarket pulley which tells me you are incorrect.

4g63lover
10-01-2009, 12:44 PM
The world's fastest Evo 8 uses an aftermarket pulley which tells me you are incorrect.

He didnt say one thing about an aftermarket pulley in that statement.

Stewi
10-01-2009, 05:28 PM
The world's fastest Evo 8 uses an aftermarket pulley which tells me you are incorrect.

this post tells me you didnt read my post carefully

I said BELT and MAJORITY. I didnt say ALL fast EVO's.

Also understand that I have first hand knowledge of this, I have timed 4 of these motors, I know why things SHOULD be done a certain way versus others.

ESR2005
10-05-2009, 02:41 PM
the evo dash is a lil deeper than the oem galant one trust me i know i have an evo 9 in my garage and i just measured depth and width width is a little smaller but i can just use to a pillars to compensate pretty much for it to work i need to swap the entire interior over headliner and all and the headliner fits perfect cuz i already tried lol the problem is once u mention recaro the price skyrockets lol i might just do the interior and do red tenzo rs and re do the backseats to match anyway if anyone wants to buy my old seats they are for sale no rips or anything i just did them last year or maybe a lil longer idk lol lemme know

Stewi
10-05-2009, 03:39 PM
the evo dash is a lil deeper than the oem galant one trust me i know i have an evo 9 in my garage and i just measured depth and width width is a little smaller but i can just use to a pillars to compensate pretty much for it to work i need to swap the entire interior over headliner and all and the headliner fits perfect cuz i already tried lol the problem is once u mention recaro the price skyrockets lol i might just do the interior and do red tenzo rs and re do the backseats to match anyway if anyone wants to buy my old seats they are for sale no rips or anything i just did them last year or maybe a lil longer idk lol lemme know

why not just use the stock EVO9 front recaro's and have an interior shop match up the material. The material on the stock EVO9 seats is just basic black leather, suede and gray mesh, its pretty easily available through other manufacturers than recaro, use that to match up the trim panels and rear seats.

ESR2005
01-17-2010, 11:11 PM
heres my new setup for 2010
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii222/esr2005/17263_274700285232_695415232_390263.jpg

WhiteGalant
01-17-2010, 11:49 PM
That is very very pretty. :)

IVORY_G
01-18-2010, 12:08 AM
Nooiiice!!!

4g63lover
01-18-2010, 12:11 AM
Is the Galant getting to see any track time? a set-up like that would be a waste if it sits on car show lawns more than race track or drag strip.

Galantfan88
01-18-2010, 12:17 AM
WOOOOOOO NOW THATS A NICE G!!!! Awesome job man I wish I had this much room and time to work on my car like this. Keep up the good work and deff post more pix up man and even a sound clip when you get her started.

WhiteGalant
01-18-2010, 12:38 AM
O ya is that the hyundai head?

RAZ_76
01-18-2010, 01:28 AM
Nice work dude. Keep them pix coming.

wright06jhs
01-18-2010, 02:30 AM
The car looks great. I love the engine bay.

Galante
01-18-2010, 03:46 AM
damn nice!

Stewi
01-18-2010, 08:34 AM
Out of curiosity, why would you mount the intercooler behind the radiator support? Are you changing your front bumper to something that has no room for it? I remember you had the smiley face bumper which has a decent amount of space for a FMIC. I guess with the new setup your gonna have to run a half size radiator on the driver side. With the intercooler that close to the manifold I would at least coat the manifold so that the intercooler doesnt soak up alot of that heat since its so close.

WhiteGalant
01-18-2010, 08:57 AM
Out of curiosity, why would you mount the intercooler behind the radiator support? Are you changing your front bumper to something that has no room for it? I remember you had the smiley face bumper which has a decent amount of space for a FMIC. I guess with the new setup your gonna have to run a half size radiator on the driver side. With the intercooler that close to the manifold I would at least coat the manifold so that the intercooler doesnt soak up alot of that heat since its so close.

I noticed that too I was wondering why he was doing that and where he was gonna put the radiator.

ESR2005
01-18-2010, 10:50 AM
yea im usin a 3 row civic half radiator with an lines welded on instead of hoses and i have the vrg front bumper so theres no room at all plus its all sneaky i like it better hidden

ESR2005
01-18-2010, 10:53 AM
the heatsoak wont b that bad the exhaust pressure doesnt really build up for too long since its dual ball bearing so its pretty much in and out right away barely any lag at all plus with the car tuned right it will not get cherry red hot headers getting cherry red hot is usually due to incorrect tune causing afr to be off and causing extreme egt...(exhaust gas temp)... and yea its gonna see track time and show time im actually going up against my fathers blown 78 vette.... it was a beast on 14lbs with the old setup this will b waaaaaaayyyy faster now with 33lbs

WhiteGalant
01-18-2010, 11:56 AM
the heatsoak wont b that bad the exhaust pressure doesnt really build up for too long since its dual ball bearing so its pretty much in and out right away barely any lag at all plus with the car tuned right it will not get cherry red hot headers getting cherry red hot is usually due to incorrect tune causing afr to be off and causing extreme egt...(exhaust gas temp)... and yea its gonna see track time and show time im actually going up against my fathers blown 78 vette.... it was a beast on 14lbs with the old setup this will b waaaaaaayyyy faster now with 33lbs

Thats the hyundai head right? Hows the aftermarket support for it? As far as cams, springs, etc?

ESR2005
01-18-2010, 12:22 PM
it uses evo parts. same head just cast a lil diff i.e spots for water lines and watnot on evo and not on hyundai one but internals are the same but not stock they arent mines built

Fresh_617
01-18-2010, 01:51 PM
Yo ur from mass??

Fresh_617
01-18-2010, 02:04 PM
oh shit ur trunk is crazyyyy lol

and the rest of ur car 2

ESR2005
01-18-2010, 02:15 PM
yea im from mass

Stewi
01-19-2010, 07:58 AM
the heatsoak wont b that bad the exhaust pressure doesnt really build up for too long since its dual ball bearing so its pretty much in and out right away barely any lag at all plus with the car tuned right it will not get cherry red hot headers getting cherry red hot is usually due to incorrect tune causing afr to be off and causing extreme egt...(exhaust gas temp)... and yea its gonna see track time and show time im actually going up against my fathers blown 78 vette.... it was a beast on 14lbs with the old setup this will b waaaaaaayyyy faster now with 33lbs

No offense but you wouldnt be more wrong about heat/tuning. The general idea behind a turbo car is to get the AFR's tuned as close to stoich as possible without leaning out too much. In boost however the highest AFRs to be "safe" would be around 11.5 - 11.8:1 Because the more heat generated the better for spooling the turbo, with the AFR tuned right, the motor will be at its max potential for power. Yes, of course if you go way lean your EGT's will go thru the roof but at that point forget about the heatsoak you will be damaging pistons/valves/headgaskets and the like. When you say the "car tuned right it will not get cherry red hot" you must not have spent alot of time around turbo cars. On my old setup which was a cast stainless DSM manifold, I can take my car on a WOT highway pull at 15psi and do a 0-140 run, pull off to the side of the road and open the hood and my manifold is glowing red. That is on a cast stainless manifold which the wall thickness is probably double of any tubular manifold. Did I mention my AFR's were around 10.8 to 11:1 during that pull which is very conservative. When I hang out at the track you can see DSM's and EVO's make 10 second runs, come back around, stop and get the timeslip, park in the pit, open the hood, and the manifold will still be glowing red a little near the collector since the other areas had a little time to cool.

When you dyno that car you should monitor ambient air temps versus air temp going into the intake manifold, see the results after 2 or 3 back to back pulls on the dyno and compare to your first pull, I wouldnt be surprised if you saw a 10-15 degree difference.

Alexey
01-19-2010, 09:05 PM
I've always liked your car, and I can say that all the work I see you've done so far, I like. Can't wait to see the final results.

Fresh_617
01-19-2010, 09:09 PM
lol not 2 sound like a groupie or nothin but u got any spare parts? im trynna build up my galant and urs is very inspiring to me to make my shit hot...not trynna jock u or nothin lol

krow
01-19-2010, 09:19 PM
The car is hot, clean, and a nice build but spend $150 get tint and it will finish your G.

johnygezony
01-19-2010, 10:30 PM
No offense but you wouldnt be more wrong about heat/tuning. The general idea behind a turbo car is to get the AFR's tuned as close to stoich as possible without leaning out too much. In boost however the highest AFRs to be "safe" would be around 11.5 - 11.8:1 Because the more heat generated the better for spooling the turbo, with the AFR tuned right, the motor will be at its max potential for power. Yes, of course if you go way lean your EGT's will go thru the roof but at that point forget about the heatsoak you will be damaging pistons/valves/headgaskets and the like. When you say the "car tuned right it will not get cherry red hot" you must not have spent alot of time around turbo cars. On my old setup which was a cast stainless DSM manifold, I can take my car on a WOT highway pull at 15psi and do a 0-140 run, pull off to the side of the road and open the hood and my manifold is glowing red. That is on a cast stainless manifold which the wall thickness is probably double of any tubular manifold. Did I mention my AFR's were around 10.8 to 11:1 during that pull which is very conservative. When I hang out at the track you can see DSM's and EVO's make 10 second runs, come back around, stop and get the timeslip, park in the pit, open the hood, and the manifold will still be glowing red a little near the collector since the other areas had a little time to cool.

When you dyno that car you should monitor ambient air temps versus air temp going into the intake manifold, see the results after 2 or 3 back to back pulls on the dyno and compare to your first pull, I wouldnt be surprised if you saw a 10-15 degree difference.

BAM ! you just got hit in the head with a turbo bible !

ESR2005
01-19-2010, 10:55 PM
lol its w.e i dont tune just build the motor... lol and no i dnt have any spare parts but if i come across some ill let u know...