dohc clearance issue

[ESR2005]

hi im ready to start building the motor now that my wire tuck and shaved bay is almost complete im using the hyundai head i have a few questions
1.wat pistons would you suggest and rods they have to b forged (will evo forged pistons fit)?
2. is there an clearance issues with the stock head and bottom end
3.if not im going to be running 272 cams is there any issues there due to the head swap?


thanks

[galant3333]

search.

[Stewi]

Search X 10

in short to answer them

1. Evo Rods Yes, Pistons NO (SEARCH)

2. No Issues with clearance

3. Makes no sense what your asking. You can use any EVO cams.

[Modified]

You really need to use the search feature. You can use any exhaust/intake cam for your head swap as long as it is made for the Evo. There are different durations: 264, 272, and 280.

[ESR2005]

omfg i ordered a set of pistons from roadrace engineering 3 months ago and still no pistons and they still havent even had them made yet they said wiseco is closed for some reason .... but they said if i had an evo head they could get me pistons right away
sooooo wat i need from u guys is two things please i really need ur help and i cant find out the info 1 wat is the main diff between the evo head and hyundai EX. valve reliefs ccs and is theere anything different about the valves or how far they come out?? 2. could i get a piston specced for an evo head would that work?? and if so wat would i need to tell them since it is a hyundai head....also im running 272 cams and a garret gt35r so wat compression ratio should i run they said 8:8:1 and i could run 30lbs of boost all day...
thanks your opinions are greatly appreciated
Tony

(ps how the hell do u post now? lol )

[djakay]

if they are making them for you wouldn't they know better?

[ESR2005]

well thats what i thought but apparently not every time i call all they say is idk wat to tell you well im like wtf am ipaying u for then?? omg im so fukkin stressedi just need help asap so i can put my motor back together and get it tuned my wire tuck and shave is all done

[duh2150]

search in club3g should teach you everything

[Kwikfox]

Ya, the people at RRE are complete dicks. Even when you go in person to the shop, you are likely to be waiting a few hours for someone to get you something. Dont even ask about getting a car worked on there... if you are having them work on a Galant, you are the last on their list, just ask Krazie how long we/he waited to get his car done that one time. RRE's priorities is the Eclipse (turbocharged models) and Evo's anything else means nothing to them.

[ESR2005]

i heard that wen u do the dohc swap u need to retard one of the cams does anyone know exactly what the deal is since im getting ready to start up my fully built dohc turbo beast but i dnt wanna crush the valves on startupp lol answers would be greatly appreciated thanks

[Stewi]

You dont need to retard the cam, you need to retard the cam gear. here is why...

The EVO bent was less teeth on the belt the DOHC timing belt, you need to use the timing belt from a 94 Galant GS DOHC. Since the 4G64 block is taller than the EVO block and the belt has a different tooth count, you need to adjust the cam gears just to fit the belt properly. If not, the belt wont tension right and you will never get it all to line up. I have my exhaust cam set at zero and intake cam at about -7 or -8. Again this is JUST THE GEAR being set at zero, the cam itself is still near stock in its timed location. So what you do is hold the cam still using a 14mm wrench on the bolt and then just spin the gear part backwards.

[ESR2005]

well this sucks cuz i just bought an evo 8 greddy belt ....damn so i need a 94 dohc galant one? and do they have performance ones? if not do u think a oem belt can handle 700 hp? does it matter wat gear u move? ex intake or exhaust?

[Gtorque]

what exactly are u putting in to try and reach that much power??????

[ESR2005]

ugg do i have to list it lol
right now i have a 4g64 block with cosworth sleeves
h beam eagle rods
custom 8:8:1 c/r wiseco pistons
all of my bearings are cosworth bearings
ported and polished hyundai head evo titanium springs and retainers
hks 272 cams
magnus race intake manifold
90mm skunk2 tb
44mm tial sports wastegate
perrin high flow fuel rail
r/c 1000cc injectors
invidia headers
precision 6262 sp ballbearing turbo
3 ply cosworth head gasket
aeromotive fpr

[ESR2005]

o yea and aem ems

[4g63lover]

the oem belt might be able to handle 700hp but the trans unless built will never hold that kind of power.

about the belt im sure it'll hold fine but you'll just have to replace it more often.

[Stewi]

ugg do i have to list it lol
right now i have a 4g64 block with cosworth sleeves
h beam eagle rods
custom 8:8:1 c/r wiseco pistons
all of my bearings are cosworth bearings
ported and polished hyundai head evo titanium springs and retainers
hks 272 cams
magnus race intake manifold
90mm skunk2 tb
44mm tial sports wastegate
perrin high flow fuel rail
r/c 1000cc injectors
invidia headers
precision 6262 sp ballbearing turbo
3 ply cosworth head gasket
aeromotive fpr

1. Skunk2 does not make a 90mm EVO throttle body, only 68mm, better off using a Q45 TB.

2. You will need +1mm valves if your running a ported head, high flow manifold and have 700whp goals.

3.You might need larger injectors, might.

4.The invidia manifold for the EVO is meant for a stock turbo, you cannot run it with the 6262SP.

5. Make sure the cosworth headgasket is a large enough bore, you cant run a headgasket only meant for an EVO motor, the 4G64 has a larger bore, you need either a cometic headgasket, HKS headgasket or a modified OEM headgasket (AMS sells them) all available to accomodate the 4G64 motor with a .020 overbore.

6. HKS272 cams are over rated.. I know because they are still in my motor. Just because parts are expensive doesnt mean they all work well or are worth the investment. Looking at your parts list, your throwing around alot of cosworth and HKS, be careful what you invest in. Kelford cams are just as good if not better than HKS and they cost less. Do a search on EVOM, there is a whole thread with back to back to back cam tests.

7. Eagle H beam rods are rated for 800 crank horsepower. If your looking to make 700 wheel horsepower, you will be pushing those rods to their limits. You may want to consider manley turbo tough rods, pauter rods or crower rods. I personally would stay away from pauter because they are made for like 1000+ horsepower and they are heavier than the rest. I know people have made over 700whp on eagles and been OK, but it doesnt mean its a good idea.

8. Why are you sleeving the block? Completely overkill unless your block has damage and you need to bore it soo much to correct it, that you NEED to sleeve it. I can only recall seeing a few sleeved motors over on EVOM and all of them were to correct a damaged block or for cars with goals of 1000+awhp and 45psi.

[Stewi]

well this sucks cuz i just bought an evo 8 greddy belt ....damn so i need a 94 dohc galant one? and do they have performance ones? if not do u think a oem belt can handle 700 hp? does it matter wat gear u move? ex intake or exhaust?

yes an OEM belt will work fine.

[lonestar22]

kelford cams ftw!!!!!!!!!!!

ask any EVO guy making high power and theyll tell you kelford cams are the shit

[GOOSEY2099]

BTW 4g64 can only be bored .20 over not more. 4g63 can go .80 over i believe. You said "right now i have a 4g64 block with cosworth sleeves", show me a pic as i call a Flap!

[Stewi]

BTW 4g64 can only be bored .20 over not more. 4g63 can go .80 over i believe. You said "right now i have a 4g64 block with cosworth sleeves", show me a pic as i call a Flap!

the only time I have seen them sleeved is when the block needed to be bored more than .040 over. They end up boring the block wayy over and then press in ductile iron sleeves. It will pretty much look like a closed deck honda block. I would never invest in this unless it was extremely difficult to find another used 4G64 block.

[ESR2005]

ill try to find a pic of the block apart its together now

[ESR2005]

o yea i have come across another problem the oem cam sensor on the hyundai does not fit over the evo cams what could be a fix for this

[Stewi]

You mean the reluctor right? not the sensor? The reluctor is the cylinder with the two tabs on it that goes into the end of the exhaust cam. I think you have to run the one from an EVO if im not mistaken. I have only used the EVO head never a kia or hyundai head. The most info on this is over on club3g a bunch of guys there have done this.

[duh2150]

yeah you have to use the evo cylinder what wait that cylinder are you trying to use!? a galant one?, lol i know for a fact hes has the galant one on there its the only one that does not fit

[ESR2005]

no its a cam sensor it gous on the exhaust cam but the cams are set up for an evo so the bolt on the end is too big so it doesnt slide over it

[Stewi]

No. The piece that physically bolts onto the exhaust cam is called a reluctor, sometimes called a timing cylinder or the like. The cam sensor is the electronic sensor that goes into that external housing which bolts to the head. Take a picture of what your talking about and post it up.

[ESR2005]

o yea can i use arp head studs off an evo 8 if im using the hyundai dohc? thanks

[ESR2005]

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii222/esr2005/026-2-1.jpg

[GOOSEY2099]

cam reluctor... get an evo one.

[duh2150]

i don't think he searched enough, and yes you can, i just put some on mine

[qnz]

what manifold are you using right now?

[ESR2005]

intake or exhaust? intake magnus "RACE" manifold and for exhaust jus some ebay one

[spdracr]

are you gonna clear the starter with this exhaust manifold ??

[ESR2005]

it hopefully will since its off an aeclipse its the pwr steering thats going to b a problem w/e ill make a bracket and put it somwhere else

[qnz]

yea, it will clear the starter. My manifold looks just like his except its flanged for a 38mm WG instead of 44.

You might want to ceramic coat that manifold if youre going to use it. My ebay manifold got really hot before I wrapped it.

[bmore303]

If you don't mind me asking, what exactly are your goals with this build?

[duh2150]

is that your engine can i see it with the valve cover off?

[ESR2005]

thats an old pic i had saved on my comp its all bolted up now

[ESR2005]

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii222/esr2005/001.jpg
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii222/esr2005/002.jpg updates lol also a question the evo adj cam gears will work with the hyundai head?

[Stewi]

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii222/esr2005/001.jpg
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii222/esr2005/002.jpg updates lol also a question the evo adj cam gears will work with the hyundai head?

Yes.

What kinda cams are in that motor?

that intake manifold and TB are so overkill that im speechless....

[ESR2005]

lolol i wasnt expecting it to be that big but its too late now lol and they are hks 272s i really need your help stewi and i appreciate you answering all my questionsputtin on the belt tomoro hopefully all goes well and do u know wtf the 2 blocks on my intake mani are for i think its intake manifold pressure sensor and map but what sensors can i eliminate since im running aem ems thanks

[Stewi]

The one to the far left is for the OEM map sensor, the hole would need to be drilled, the one towards the center should be for vacuum fittings (unless there is one underneath?) and the one near the TB looks like its for the throttle cable, although it seems WAYYY too close. Is there one for the throttle cable underneath? if not, your TB is upside down.

[ESR2005]

yea it is upside down lol that was just mocked up do i need maf since i have ems now? where did u put your oil feed and return lines aswell as yourwater ones i have an oil filter sandwhich

[Stewi]

yea it is upside down lol that was just mocked up do i need maf since i have ems now? where did u put your oil feed and return lines aswell as yourwater ones i have an oil filter sandwhich


No you dont need the maf sensor, im running an EVO pan so my return line goes there. My feed line is tapped off one of the block off plugs on the EVO filter housing. You can feed it from the sandwhich plate adaptor fine.

[ESR2005]

do evo 8 motor mounts fit they look as if all will except the rear roll mount cuz i deff need to upgrade my mounts
yout input would be greatly appreciated
thanks

[Stewi]

The inserts might fit, but just buy the ones made for our cars/3g's

[ESR2005]

they offer performance full motormounts? not just inserts?
i want mounts kinda like hasports for civics

[Stewi]

No they are inserts. It sounds like you want them for the visual appeal and not really the performance aspect. The durometer of the urethane is what is going to effect performance. The fact that one mount is billet aluminum versus our stock cast aluminum side mounts and cast steel front/rear mount, the only difference is going to be weight savings. You might save 3lbs total by going with the EVO ones, IF they all fit. I know for a fact the passenger side one does not.

[ESR2005]

yes visual appeal is nice lol

[ESR2005]

is there any where else i can route the return line from my turbo other than the oil pan? my feed is from the sandwhich and i already have the pan on i dont wanna take it off lol any ideas? or input thanks also does a rollcage for an evo fit our cars with little or no mods? thanks

[4g63lover]

is there any where else i can route the return line from my turbo other than the oil pan? my feed is from the sandwhich and i already have the pan on i dont wanna take it off lol any ideas? or input thanks also does a rollcage for an evo fit our cars with little or no mods? thanks

the oil pan is the BEST place for the return. there's no other place I can think of where to route the return. Turbo cars from the factory run their return line to the pan, just do it.

as for the cage, try it and let me know if it does. lol

[Stewi]

The return needs to go to the pan, thats the only place. So take that pan off!

[ESR2005]

damnit lol also
wat spark plugs do i use with the hyundai head? and wat coils do i use the sohc galant ones or oem hyundai? i got the urethane inserts they look ok lol good for now i just wanna drive the damn car its going to hin in mass even if i have to trailer it im already registered lol

[ESR2005]

so its time to put the timing belt on and just for laughs i decide to try my evo one to see how off it was and wat do u know it it fit perfect and everything lined up idk how but it did and i have pics to prove it lol i hope its fine bc i spun the motor like 10 times and everything still lined up and nothing hit

[ESR2005]

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii222/esr2005/020-1.jpg
srry for the fuzzyness ill take better ones tomoro its late lol

[GOOSEY2099]

hey i'm curious about something... did you actually reuse the waterpump and the oilpump for this build?

[ESR2005]

my oil pump is shimmed and yea i used the same water pump but it only has 38k on it it should b fine im just gonna watch everything lol

[Stewi]

are the cam gears set at 0 degrees on each cam? If they are
There is no possible way it's right. Also how did u line up the
Crank timing mark with that pulley on

[underated]

from the picture it doesnt looked timed right... did you line the marks up with the nubs on the valve cover? because in that picture they are facing eachother? and the holes on the tensioner pulley should be facing towards the right shouldnt they?

[Stewi]

from the picture it doesnt looked timed right... did you line the marks up with the nubs on the valve cover? because in that picture they are facing eachother? and the holes on the tensioner pulley should be facing towards the right shouldnt they?

Yes, and Yes.

The reason the tensioner pins arent to the right is because he's using the EVO timing belt and there is barely any slack in it at all because its so short.

If you spun the motor over that many times timed like that, you probably bent the valves already.

[ESR2005]

no i checked the valve clearance with putty its fine

[GOOSEY2099]

shit^

[Stewi]

no i checked the valve clearance with putty its fine

how?

you put putty on the top of the piston, installed the headgasket and studs, installed the head, torqued it to spec, installed the T-belt, timed it, spun it over a bunch of times, then tore it all down to check the putty?

If you look at the dowel pins that come off the cams and slide into the cam gears, when the motor is at TDC, the down pin on the intake cam should be just left (counter clockwise) of the 12 O'clock position and the exhaust cam should be just to the right (clockside) of 12 O'clock. Yours are facing each other in those pics.

[ESR2005]

idk but does anyone have any idea whats wat on my turbo like which holes are oil return and feed same with water i called the place i bought the turbo from and they said the feed is the bottom hole which seems weird so im just gonna hold off on runnin the lines till i know exactly wats wat and for timing all the timing marks are dead on just in that pic the motor wasnt at tdc i tok that pic after i spun it and i did it by hand theres noway i couldve bent a valve i wouldve heard and or felt something it spun no problem and there was no plugs in so thus no compression just incase u ask how i could spin a motor over that has compression lol this isnt my first time building a motor i also had a talon that i built a motor for and i timed it the same way

[Stewi]

How did you time the motor? See the timing marks where the degree's are, you have them set at 0 and 0.

IT PHYSICALLY CANNOT BE CORRECT!

First off, take a CLOSE UP pic of the cam gears, I only see one dowel hole, typically there are two, one for EVO and one for DSM.

The reason your timing cant be correct is you MUST adjust the cam gear on at least one side to offset the belt tooth spacing difference. Since the block is taller than an EVO block you throw the tooth spacing off, IE if the motor was timed correction, you would have a tooth on the belt sitting on a tooth on the gear instead of in the groove on the gear.

Those timing marks should never ever ever ever ever line up with each other. When the motor is at TDC the timing marks should be near the 12 O'clock position, the motor spins clockwise, so as it all turns, the marks on both gears turn clockwise, the cam gears turn relative to each other, at the same speed, with that being said, they could never have the marks line up with each other, ever.

Im trying to save you thousands of dollars in repairs. take the head off the block and have a machine shop check the valves.

[ESR2005]

the valves are perfectly fine ill post pics tonite

[underated]

exactly i knew something was wrong you cannot time this engine the same way you time a talon/eclipse engine... evo timing marks are on the valve cover... for dsm's you face the timing marks towards eachother in the middle of the cam gears. that engine will not run the way it is setup now trust us.

[ESR2005]

yea u guys are right the dowels are supposed to b facing up sry i doubted u guys lol

[ESR2005]

ok so the motoris back in now i got around to wiring mostof it but wat resistors do i need to make my 1000cc evo injectors work? like wat ohm and wat not a reply would b appreciated thanks guys

[Stewi]

Use a DSM resistor box. They can me had for like $25 and are much easier to wire up than regular resistors which also have a higher chance of failing.

this is what you need here....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/civic-turbo-resistor-box-from-dsm_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c66Q3a2 Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3 a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem 230336000718QQitemZ230336000718QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5 fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

[DaveMitsubishi]

this thread is interestingly funny hey Sup Stewi

[ESR2005]

how do u wire that up and do they come factory on like a 1g talon or something

[Gtorque]

is that the block for the 2.0 or the 2.4l ?

[GOOSEY2099]

how do u wire that up and do they come factory on like a 1g talon or something

Do you search for ANYTHING at all???? Or do any research????

[ESR2005]

well our search feature always comes up with nothing i search on here all the time its alwways random threads about other stuff and therefore useless its much easier to ask pple that have already done the swap and therefore can answer my questions off the top of their head honestly its just as easy to answer me then to b like SEARCH and give no help i come on this forum looking for help and/or advice but always get the 2 or three pple that wanna be dicks and complain if u dont wanna help me out its your choice i appreciate the help from most of you guys especially stewi and underated... im just in such a rush to get my car rdy for hin that i dont have time to spend 2hrs searching for some little thing... thanks lol

[GOOSEY2099]

Here since you can't seem to search...

https://www.thegalantcenter.org/showthread.php?t=18693&highlight=resistor+pack

Scroll down the page

[Stewi]

+1

Also I know your amped about HIN and all, but dont rush it. You would be wiser to trailer your car to HIN and keep the hood closed for the show rather than rush this and potentially kill that motor.

[ESR2005]

o its gonna be trailered either way cuz im still waitin on my aem ems thats still on backorder ...THANKS AEM! -_- lol i just want to get most of the wiring done so its ready wen ems is in and i wanna clean up my wires before the show and i still need to order and paint and install my jdm grill and sideskirts b4 may 9th lol and thanks goosey sorry if im bein a dick but im just so frustrated due to stress from work and this car and the show lol

[Stewi]

Why is your AEM EMS on backorder? and why are you buying a new one? get it from EVOM for $1000shipped with sensors like everyone else does. there are 3 of them for sale right now on EVOM.

[ESR2005]

for a 2.4 eclipse?

[Stewi]

for a 2.4 eclipse?

the 2.4 eclipse EMS has been superceeded by the AEM EMS 30-1313 which is the same for the EVO8. All you need to do is use an EVO cam reluctor which is like $15 and run the AEM EMS from an EVO.

[ESR2005]

it still just plugs straight into our wiring harness?

[Stewi]

it still just plugs straight into our wiring harness?

No. There are NO AEM EMS's that plug directly into our wiring harness, you would need a conversion harness from Boomslang, which costs around $200 plus the AEM EMS for the EVO. The plug and play EMS for the 3g is for 5 speed cars, which is the same pin config as an EVO, there is no PnP EMS for auto's

[ESR2005]

damnit i need to find jdm old style vr4 sides asap and the grill to complete my car b4 hin does anyone have any for sale or know of anyone thanks

[ESR2005]

update motor is in i know timing is off i just threw the belt on so it wasnt flappin around but i got it now so ill take more recent pics tomoro
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii222/esr2005/013.jpg
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[boostzealot]

hey have you ever had this car pro shot? do you plan to? if so hit me up i have someone that would do some incredible work and as it sits your car is seriously on the verge of magazine quality by far. great job thus far. i cant wait to shave my engine bay and repaint. with my wire tuck its going to look epic with my big ass motor there and hardly any visible wiring. great job again.

[Stewi]

Its looking good man. You MUST paint those motor mounts an aluminum silver color to cover up that oxidation. If you wanna be real baller, you can take out the inserts and have the mount housings polished, it wont be cheap but it will be really nice.

[DaveMitsubishi]

Its looking good man. You MUST paint those motor mounts an aluminum silver color to cover up that oxidation. If you wanna be real baller, you can take out the inserts and have the mount housings polished, it wont be cheap but it will be really nice.

unless hes real hand and is skilled at polishing and have those tools lol but i do say its looking real clean and minty looking

[ESR2005]

I just wire wheeld em they look ok for noelw the black is wats left over from wire wheelin em never dull will take that off and it will look mint lol

[underated]

the car looks great man , just one thing... i dont know if someone alread mentioned this but if you dont put the powersteeting bracket back one your timing belt will be exposed. you could possibly cut the pump mounting arms off the bracket and still be able to use the main piece but i cant tell how close the compressor housing comes to that piece. just something to think about.

[ESR2005]

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[ESR2005]

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[youngin3]

Dayum! You went all out on this car.

That looks very nice. I am not really into the whole lego colored engine bay, but it is still clean enough to eat off of!

Good job and good luck!

[ESR2005]

its rlly a nasty red with gold pearl but u cant tell in pics and the blue belt is greddy so i had no choice lol

[starh4x]

your car is perfect!

[ESR2005]

the car is still all dirty in the pics and im still waitin on a grill and the weatherstrip for the trunk and tuning and shit lol i hope i win at hin this year and hopefully try and get a mag shoot well see wat happens this weekend

[kungfuwaffles]

flap flap flaparooooo

[Stewi]

thats looking really really good bro

[youngin3]

Can we get some interior pictures? I am liking this...

[ESR2005]

is and evo x radiator the same and/or fit in an 8g i have noo room for an intercooler so im gettin a custom made one maddd gay

[spdracr]

not to sound like an A$$ but if you have done your research you would have found out that you CAN NOT fit an intercooler behind that vrg bumper unless you do some crazy cutting or get one made and this is why i didnt get the vrg front

good luck

[ESR2005]

ill make it work but i am leaning towards water to air instead of a fmic and does the evo x radiator fit the 8g i can get a mishimoto one for 100 bucks brand new from my friends cousin

[4g63lover]

get a honda half radiator.

and im not sure if you will be running enough power to run a water to air I/C. just a heads up.

why dont you do a topmount with a custon scoop??

[ESR2005]

ok wat spark plugs do i use for my swap ones for a hyundai evo or 7g galant dohc and does anyone know the oem redline for a hyundai sonata head?? thanks
p.s look for my in import tuner mag im not sure which one as of now but it should be soon i just got an email from their editor their sending a photographer to the east coast me and some of my teams cars are gonna b in it

[Stewi]

If the motor has a built bottom end it and built valvetrain it should take 7500RPMS safely and reliably.

You can run a liquid to air intercooler, the ones from PWR are pretty expensive but they work well and take up the least space. It would make your piping from the turbo to the TB extremely easy and clean. If your going to run the liquid to air intercooler, I would run two honda half radiators, one to cool the engine and one to cool the liquid to air intercooler. I would also run a good fan with a shroud on both radiators and setup the one on the intercooler's radiator to turn the fan on whenever the vehicle speed was under 25mph, this way you dont get a tone of heat soak during city driving and traffic.

[ESR2005]

wat spark plugs do i use tho lol

[Stewi]

its gay that this is the only pic I can find on their site, but its a rough idea

this is TTR's old intercooler setup using a PWR theirs was 6" diameter by 10" long with a 3" inlet/outlet, I cant seem to find them, but they still make the 6"x8" which is good to like 600whp you would be fine with that.

http://www.turbotrix.com/wordpress/wp-content/gallery/shop-cars/P1010038.JPG

[ESR2005]

ok heres my problem im about to wire up my injectors with the resistor pack the oem 8g galant injector clips have a red wire on each one and then a misc colored wire
but the pigtails that come off my 1000cc injectors have a black wire ith a red stripe on each one and a misc colored wire wat wires do i hook up where lol thanks

[ESR2005]

anyone have an answer for me please?? lol

[Stewi]

Look on the injector itself, one side of the receptical (on the injector itself) should have a " + " sign on it. On the 8g harness the red wire is power and the misc colored wires are ground. The injectors fire by receiving ground, not power. So you send all the red wires from the harness to the inlet side of the resistor box and then send the outlets to the positive side of the injector. So the injector has constant power.

[4g64turbo]

that is one real nice set up i hop mine looks this good when i'm done keep it up...

[ESR2005]

does anyone have a tut on how to install an aftermarket fpr??? do i put it on the inlet or outlet ive searched but nobody has answered this question thanks

[Stewi]

You did not search you liar...LOL

Seriously tho, EVOM, search feature and 10 seconds, its done. In short, it goes on the return end, if your not a member on EVOM, you should be.

[ShiZnitH]

Thats 1 seriously built showcar :D Nice1!!

[ESR2005]

lol i no my car is almost done!!!!!! lol finally long story short i got fukked by a speedshop and ended up getting a megasquirt ems for 4g63 instead of aem due to lack of cashflow lol

[Stewi]

lol i no my car is almost done!!!!!! lol finally long story short i got fukked by a speedshop and ended up getting a megasquirt ems for 4g63 instead of aem due to lack of cashflow lol

ohh boy, the last place you wanna be counting pennies is with the engine management system. You would have been better off spending less on something else and going with AEM.

[Gtorque]

nice build so far man... question.. is ESR2005's timing going to be to work with that Greddy evo timing belt or does he have to switch to the 94 Galant GS DOHC?i see hes almost done an didn't change it.i wanna know if i should return my HKS timing belt lol

[Stewi]

as stated above, the belt you SHOULD use is the 94 GS belt. you CAN use a belt made for an EVO, but its not intended for the 2.4 block since the EVO belt is shorter.