Hyundai Sonata 5-speed Transmission

[remarque]

Dont know if this has been researched, since the Hyundai block is the same as the Mitsubishi can we use the Sonata's 5 speed transmission. I've been searching and found out that some 99 and up Sonata's have 5 speed transmission and since the the Sonata uses the same platform as the Galant we might be able to the shifter assembly. I just need to find a 99 and up Sonata at the junkyard. And instead of swapping the head you swap the entire engine.

Heres one car on Ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1999-HYUNDAI-SONOTA-4-cyl-5-speed_W0QQitemZ190294799202QQcmdZViewItemQQptZSalv age_Parts_Cars?hash=item190294799202&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A1171|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318

[4g63lover]

good thought.

[remarque]

If it does fit, it would be a lot cheaper than trying to get Eclipse cause theres a 2005 engine for $300 and tranny for $300.

[4g63lover]

If it does fit, it would be a lot cheaper than trying to get Eclipse cause theres a 2005 engine for $300 and tranny for $300.

exactly what I was thinking and knowing Mitsu and Hyundai theyre probably of the same quality.

[starh4x]

the sonata is butt ugly. doesnt deserve 5 speed

[spdracr]

the sonata used the G4JS

here is a comparison


4G64

The longitudinal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longitudinal) 4G64 is the second largest variant, at (2350 cc). Early models were 8-valve SOHC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOHC), but a later 16-valve SOHC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOHC) and DOHC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOHC) version was also produced. All used MPFI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_injection) with an 86.5 mm bore and 100 mm stroke. The 4G64 was also available with gasoline direct injection (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_direct_injection). The version used in the Chrysler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler) Sebring (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_Sebring)/Stratus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Stratus) coupes produced 152 hp (110 kW) at 5500 rpm with 162 ft·lbf (214 N·m) of torque at 4000 rpm. The Chrysler version features fracture-split forged powder metal connecting rods. The 4g64 is an interference motor like the 4g63.
Applications:


1987–1990 Mitsubishi Sapporo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Sapporo)
1988–1990 Mitsubishi Van (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Van)
1990–1992 Mitsubishi L200 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_L200)
1990–1996 Mitsubishi Mighty Max (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Mighty_Max)
1993-1997 Mitsubishi Expo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Chariot)
1994–2003 Mitsubishi Galant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Galant)
1996–1998 Mitsubishi Magna (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Magna)
1994–2006 Mitsubishi Spacegear (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Delica) (2WD Version)
1996–1999 Mitsubishi Eclipse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Eclipse) Spyder GS
2000–2005 Mitsubishi Eclipse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Eclipse) RS & GS
2003 Mitsubishi Outlander (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Outlander)
2005 Mitsubishi Zinger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Zinger)

Others:


1989–1991 Hyundai Sonata (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Sonata)
1990–1992 Dodge Ram 50 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Ram_50)
2001–2005 Chrysler Sebring (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_Sebring) coupe/Dodge Stratus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Stratus) coupe
2004-present Brilliance BS6 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brilliance_BS6)
2008-present Chery V5 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chery_V5)


2.4

The large G4JS (also called the 2.4 D ) is the 2.4 L (2351 cc) engine. Engine dimensions are different from other Sirius blocks at 86.5 mm (bore) and 100 mm (stroke). Output is 149 hp (103 kW) at 5500 rpm with 157 ft.lbf (199 Nm) of torque at 3000 rpm. It has a cast iron engine block and aluminum DOHC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOHC) cylinder heads. It uses MFI fuel injection (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_injection), has 4 valves per cylinder and features forged steel connecting rods.
This Engine is no longer used by Hyundai

[spdracr]

The Sonata was designed by Hyundai and featured Mitsubishi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi)'s engineering, including its 2.4 L (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liter) 110 hp (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsepower) (82 kW (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watt#Kilowatt)) Sirius (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Sirius_engine) I4 engine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I4_engine) as used in American-market models. A 3.0 L V6 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V6) based on the Mitsubishi 6G72 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_6G7x_engine) arrived in 1990. The U.S. model received the 2.0 L engine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_combustion_engine) for the 1992, replacing the original 2.4 L engine.

The Mitsubishi Sirius or 4G6 engine is the name of one of Mitsubishi Motors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Motors)' four series of straight-4 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight-4) automobile (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automobile) engines, along with Astron (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Astron_engine), Orion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Orion_engine), and Saturn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Saturn_engine).

[Stewi]

Ok just to put get a real answer on this. As far as the motor is concerned, yes it will fit. How do I Know this? Top Level Performance has a complete sonata motor that they built in thier 9 second drag EVO. Some of the sonata motors even have oil squirters like the EVO's and DSMs which is a nice bonus. In theory the tranny should work, I dont know about the cables and shifters as the mounting location could be a little different which would cause the cable length to be an issue. The best way is to try and get a pic of the tranny, check the forums, they gotta have Hyundai forums.

[remarque]

Heres a pic of a 99 and up transmission. Can you guys tell from looking, Im searching for better pics now.

http://images.channeladvisor.com/Sell/SSProfiles/40000225/Images/77/27484__1.jpg

[4g63lover]

that looks about right. but cant really tell if the bellhousing bolt pattern matches without having to see it in person next to the Galant trans.

[lonestar22]

someone find this out so i can buy this

[DryBear]

The other thing to consider is if the transmission mount would be the same

[mysticj]

Auto G4JS: F4A42(Galant) and F4A51(Diamante)
Manual G4JS: M5GF1

Hyundai Gear Ratio (http://74.125.113.132/search?q=cache:TLl9cW2WnWwJ:www.rdtiburon.com/index.php%3Fact%3Dattach%26type%3Dpost%26id%3D805+ M5GF1&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us)

[galantofva]

not to jack this thread but couldnt we use the older outlander tranny too? since the older ones use the 4g64. Ive also heard that we could use tiburon trannys but dont know how much truth there is in that, however the man i soucrced this info from has been building custom imports for 13 plus years, mostly mitsu's too

[Stewi]

that looks about right. but cant really tell if the bellhousing bolt pattern matches without having to see it in person next to the Galant trans.

The bell housing bolt pattern would have to be the same if it bolts up to an EVO tranny, which bolts up to our 4G64 and our trannies bolt to the EVO 4G63's.

[4g63lover]

The bell housing bolt pattern would have to be the same if it bolts up to an EVO tranny, which bolts up to our 4G64 and our trannies bolt to the EVO 4G63's.

yay!!! I might have to look for a Sonata 5-speed.


If we use this tranny with the Eclipse cables, it should be ok right?? since the lengthe would vary on the shell and not the trans itself?

[Stewi]

yay!!! I might have to look for a Sonata 5-speed.


If we use this tranny with the Eclipse cables, it should be ok right?? since the lengthe would vary on the shell and not the trans itself?

In theory. yes.

[lonestar22]

well i guess we'll find out for sure in two to three weeks

[remarque]

I did some searching on a Tibby forum, a guy did the evo swap on his Tibby and I believe he used his Hyundai 5-speed. I'm not sure because he didnt exactly say what transmission he used but I do know they we may need to make a custom transmission mount. Again I'm not 100% sure, the guys on the forum dont go into great detail about their swap.

[qnz]

why a hundai tranny? are they cheaper?

[remarque]

A hell of alot cheaper.

[lonestar22]

eclipse tranny = 700
sonata tranny = 300

[johnygezony]

So wait, would the sonata Tranny Fit on my '01' 6g72 ?

[remarque]

We're only looking into the 4 cylinder right now. Not sure about the V6.

[johnygezony]

Gotcha. sorry for the deviation

[Jeffylou87]

That's a great find.. We should try and get a service manual for the hyundai to see if the tranny, shifter assembly and cables match.

[therev]

Its like a scavanger hunt! lets all search through pictures of trannys then see if they look the same then research! person with the most finds wins something! ooo the prize can be a TGC Tranny Finder Sticker!

~Gabe

[IVORY_G]

Its like a scavanger hunt! lets all search through pictures of trannys then see if they look the same then research! person with the most finds wins something! ooo the prize can be a TGC Tranny Finder Sticker!

~Gabe

LOL! This would be a great alternative IMO, prob more abundant as well! Great thread :)

[Johnathansgalant]

http://images.channeladvisor.com/Sell/SSProfiles/40000225/Images/77/27484__2.jpg

doesnt look that close atleast on the linkage..

http://images.channeladvisor.com/Sell/SSProfiles/40000225/Images/77/27484__3.jpg

[remarque]

Found it Hyundai Tech Support is good as hell, free manuals and online classes. Damn.

http://www.hmaservice.com/data/Passenger/HY/HMA/ENG/SHOP-Images/HY-EF13-IMAGES-ENG/s9mt012a.gif

http://www.hmaservice.com/data/Passenger/HY/HMA/ENG/SHOP-Images/HY-EF13-IMAGES-ENG/ema9020b.gif

[SkylineG1]

Someone post up a Mitsu tranny please so we can get to the bottom of this.

[Johnathansgalant]

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/3324/tranny.jpg (http://img15.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tranny.jpg)
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/tranny.jpg/1/w550.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img15/tranny.jpg/1/)

[4g63lover]

the gear cover on the sonata trans seems to be facing forward then downward like the mitsu trans.

[remarque]

I think it may fit but the shifter cable, mount and clutch slave/master are different. I think the clutch pedal is the same though.

[KaziKai]

the sonata is butt ugly. Doesnt deserve 5 speed

lol!

[starh4x]

We dont have eclipses here that I know of anyways but we do have sonatas ! so what do the experts think? works or not?

[boondocks95]

great find and thread

[Johnathansgalant]

doesnt look like its going to work direct swap like eclipse 5 speed.. Its clearly different... The mounts dont look the same either.. Looks like it bolt up to engine as stewi said but will probably have to fab mounting brackets and figure out shifter connections...

[Stewi]

doesnt look like its going to work direct swap like eclipse 5 speed.. Its clearly different... The mounts dont look the same either.. Looks like it bolt up to engine as stewi said but will probably have to fab mounting brackets and figure out shifter connections...

I think the only issue is with the shifter cables/mechanism on the tranny and possibly the clutch. Believe it or not, I think that goofy looking mount will work. Im gonna try to find a banged up sonata and see what I can figure out.

[Stewi]

Ok so I just found out one of the junkyards near my house has a 5 speed tranny for an 01 Sonata showing up on car-part.com

I am off on friday, after I bring my tranny to NJ to get built, then stop in SI to help goosey time his motor, i will go and check this tranny out. I have an empty eclipse 5 speed tranny, its literally just a bell housing and case, I will try to take side by side pics.

[Serstylz2]

thats very kind of ya

[starh4x]

ok so i just found out one of the junkyards near my house has a 5 speed tranny for an 01 sonata showing up on car-part.com

i am off on friday, after i bring my tranny to nj to get built, then stop in si to help goosey time his motor, i will go and check this tranny out. I have an empty eclipse 5 speed tranny, its literally just a bell housing and case, i will try to take side by side pics.

good man!!!

[4g63lover]

definitely update us with that info Brian!

[gimmeagalant]

no matter what gets brought up on this site it seems that the main guys to help everyone and help get info figured out is brian and roman. you two guys are the biggest help. i just thought you two needed to have a little congrats on helping everyone. sorry to jack the thread but its overdue on here to give an uplift to the guys that make this site worthwhile. and to everyone who helps make it that way.

[4g63lover]

any news on this?

[Stewi]

Didnt get a chance to go over there on friday. I was too busy bringing my tranny to NJ and then helping roman do the timing belt on his new motor. I will try and drop in one night this week. its tough during the week becaue I work a solild hour and a half from the yard with traffic.

[4g63lover]

Didnt get a chance to go over there on friday. I was too busy bringing my tranny to NJ and then helping roman do the timing belt on his new motor. I will try and drop in one night this week. its tough during the week becaue I work a solild hour and a half from the yard with traffic.


It's all good.

[platano]

well, this should be interesteing. cant wait to hear the results. even though i finished my 5-speed swap months ago, it's always fun to hear of new findings like this.

[gimmeagalant]

good news fellas. ive located a sonata and its still got the motor and tranny still in but the motor is bad. i will be going later when i get off to check it out and do a side by side comparison of the tranny mounts and shifter assembly. it is a 4g64 and if all matches up the guy said he would sell me all parts for the swap for 400. so lets hope for good luck on this. also stewi would u think it would be too far fetched to think if the tranny and all was a match that the ecu would also work as well?seeing that it is the 4g64 with a 5 speed....

[remarque]

Where at in North Carolina? So I can beat you to it.

[gimmeagalant]

man ill tell u what. if i cant come up with the cash if it all will work and fit as its supposed to ill not only tell u where it is but i will meet up and drive u to it. deal?

[remarque]

I work today so I wont be able to make it. But just give date and time and I'll see if I can make it.

[gimmeagalant]

it all works! All Of It! tranny motorshifter cables pedals. all but the body. and i bought the whole car for 400. post pics soon. and its dohc 2.4

[Stewi]

Dont get rid of that motor, when your pulling it all from the car, take pics of the motor, im interested in a few things....

[4g63lover]

say this is a positive ID on the Hyundai trans??

[gimmeagalant]

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[gimmeagalant]

yes the tranny is a direct fit everything from the sonata will fit. all of it. and u name it brian cuz if i dont need it its yours. but just to say that motor will be getting built so if you have any tips it would be helpful.

[therev]

how bout for us v6ers! any chance we can find a cheap sonata tanny 3.0?

~Gabe

[gimmeagalant]

not sure but ill keep my eye out and c what i can do

[4g63lover]

yes the tranny is a direct fit everything from the sonata will fit. all of it. and u name it brian cuz if i dont need it its yours. but just to say that motor will be getting built so if you have any tips it would be helpful.

do you know the if the slave from the 3G's will fit?

[SkylineG1]

So this is a fit? We are 100% sure of it? I don't wanna get this thing & it doesn't work.

[4g63lover]

So this is a fit? We are 100% sure of it? I don't wanna get this thing & it doesn't work.

agreed

[lonestar22]

a guy i work with has an Optima V6, the engine looks like the 6g72 but i cannot be sure. it is an auto tiptronic, has the same brake setup as my car so it is possible that the V6's may be the same. would you guys like me to take pics of the setup?

[gimmeagalant]

as for you v6e6rs i dont know but give me time and ill find out. i4s 100% matc. brian call me 919-665-8645 and we can work something out on parts you need. brandon

[DryBear]

I believe the Tiburon also use a variant of the 6G72. Isn't the Optima a Kia? Does Kia used Mitsu sourced motors as well?

[4g63lover]

as for you v6e6rs i dont know but give me time and ill find out. i4s 100% matc. brian call me 919-665-8645 and we can work something out on parts you need. brandon

can you take a picture of the slave cylinder for me bro?

[therev]

i maaayy be wrong but i believe the 3000GT has a 6G72 right?

~Gabe

[DryBear]

3KGT has a 6G72, but its oriented 180 degrees from the 6G72 in the 8G Galant and 3G Eclipse/2G Stratus

[lonestar22]

I believe the Tiburon also use a variant of the 6G72. Isn't the Optima a Kia? Does Kia used Mitsu sourced motors as well?

kia optima = hyundai sonata... same car

[platano]

kia optima = hyundai sonata... same car

is this a fact?

[Stewi]

is this a fact?

I cant say all parts are the same, but I know the cylinder heads are. EVO, Sonata and Optima all share the same head (the EVO has a smaller cc chamber, but its the same head casting)

[lonestar22]

the optima/sonatas also use the same brake setup as the galant/eclipse, so a rear disc swap is available too but not really neccesary since those parts are plentiful

[remarque]

The 99-03 V6 Sonata/Optima used a variant of the 6G73 which is 2.5l. I think the xg350/300 used a variant of the 6G72 and 6G74, that's why a lot 3G guys use it's manifold.

[mysticj]

The 99-03 V6 Sonata/Optima used a variant of the 6G73 which is 2.5l. I think the xg350/300 used a variant of the 6G72 and 6G74, that's why a lot 3G guys use it's manifold.

The Sonata/Optima 2.5L/2.7L V6 are the same as the Tibby, which is a Delta engine not the Sigma like the 6G7x. The Delta is a smaller V6 class like Mitsu 6A1x V6 but no relations between these engine. The XG300/350, Santa Fe, and other Hyundia/Kia minivan and crossovers vehicles have the 6G7x variant with DOHC. Same head casting as the 3KGT and share many many parts with them.

[spdracr]

So you said this worked. Did you install the tranny in the G ?? I'm in the market for one and got the money for the 3g tranny minus few parts. It would he cheaper for me to get the sonata one instead

[mysticj]

So you said this worked. Did you install the tranny in the G ?? I'm in the market for one and got the money for the 3g tranny minus few parts. It would he cheaper for me to get the sonata one instead

the auto ones do: sonata auto is the same/similar to the galant and santa fe is same/similar to the diamante. the five speeds look very close the 3g one.

[4g63lover]

the auto ones do: sonata auto is the same/similar to the galant and santa fe is same/similar to the diamante. the five speeds look very close the 3g one.

but will it fit? im in the same boat as spdracr but i dont want to buy a trans, get it shipped, then not fit

[starh4x]

We have sonatas over here but I doubt a transmission would be swappable because I'm 4g93 ?

[Boosted]

We have sonatas over here but I doubt a transmission would be swappable because I'm 4g93 ?

No, but you could do the entire swap with the Sonata DOHC motor and transmission. Check over at EvolutionM.

[spdracr]

so no more new update on this ??

[Orlando8G]

I'd definitely like to hear what happened with the swap and possibly see some pics, looking into doing this and a sonata/optima head swap once i finishing paying off my wonderful $2400 bill for a blown headgasket, radiator, and 4 new tires.

[wright06jhs]

I'd definitely like to hear what happened with the swap and possibly see some pics, looking into doing this and a sonata/optima head swap once i finishing paying off my wonderful $2400 bill for a blown headgasket, radiator, and 4 new tires.


Good god! where in the hell do you get your work done at? That shouldnt have costed that much for all that!

[Orlando8G]

haha I don't know, it's the mechanic my family has taken all of our cars to for like 17 years...my mom wouldn't let me do the work myself because it's my dd and i need it to get to school, so made me take it to our mech, but also made me pay for it. It was like $1300 for the engine work, $500 for a new radiator, and 4 new tires ran like $550 or something, then there were a couple of various other little things that it was time to replace, but I definitely agree with you about it costing too much.

[spdracr]

$500 for a new radiator ?? i paid less than $100 for mine and i did it myself

as far as the swap, the kid sold the car and never installed anything and i was gonna experiment with it but i found me a 3g tranny for cheap so i jumped on it

[Orlando8G]

Oh alright, well if anyone comes across a sonata tranny layin around and trys it out let us know...if not I guess it's gonna be a summer of looking for a cheap eclipse tranny.

[SkylineG1]

So we don't know if this fits then............WTF!!!!!!! Don't get people's hope up then pull this shit. Test things first then post shit up :(

[starh4x]

Im assuming the i4 works fine then from this post ?




as for you v6e6rs i dont know but give me time and ill find out. i4s 100% matc. brian call me 919-665-8645 and we can work something out on parts you need. brandon

[platano]

the optima/sonatas also use the same brake setup as the galant/eclipse, so a rear disc swap is available too...

can i swap an optima or sonata rear disc set-up and still be able to use my galant ebrake cables without having to mod the backing plates to fit?

[lonestar22]

its possible, i just know i was looking at my car and my coworkers and they have the same calipers rotors and hubs and whatnot

[lonestar22]

check this out
https://www.thegalantcenter.org/showthread.php?t=36460

[Scout4g64t]

any updates??? I heard that they fit but the gear ratios are a lil different than the 3g eclipse tranny.. anybody still into this??? Im motivated !! for the price of the eclipse tranny i can get the full tranny swap pedals etc and the dohc head swap using hyundai/kia parts. i think the most expensive thing will be getting re turned...

[sweetlew]

i just found a totaled 2002 sonata on craigslist by my house. so is it for sure that the tranny will fit and what about the rear disk brakes

[sweetlew]

just found out that the tranny is messed up so im gonna go to pull a part and just buy one and see if it fits, all the trannys there are only $50

[bronxbombr]

Any more news on this yet?

[run1206]

damn, too bad i just bought a 3G manual tranny before i read this thread :icon_sad: :lol:
hope it works. hell, for $300 i could get the sonata transmission for my aunt's 02 Galant. :thumb:

[Juansito]

What trasmission cou|d I use for my v6!

[Exhaust power]

just wanted to know did anybody run an eclipse fly/clutch set for the hyundai tranny? i have both hyundai clutch set/ no fly and eclipes clutch set/fly.

I just need a tob for the eclipse but i dont see how its going to work with the fork mechanism on the tranny just got me wondering when i was looking at gooseys swap i didnt see a tob in the pressure plate like my hyundai pressure plate has. are there different set ups?

[WhiteGalant]

For some reason I don't think this tranny is gonna work

[Exhaust power]

im pretty much shore its been used/ran before on the galant.

[4g63lover]

If the bellhousing matches up I can only see two types of things that can make this not work, the spline count for the axles and how the shifter cables are ran.

[Exhaust power]

the cables shouldnt matter because everything is from the sonata except the clutch set and axles . if anything i can probably use the sonata axles.

[anjeu209]

So does the tranny work for our cars?

[Exhaust power]

wait and see when i swap it in at spring break. only problems i ran in to was using the 3g eclipse fly/clutch set witch wont work because its a push style clutch and the sonata is pull style clutch. so the 3g eclipse tob wont work with the sonata transmission unless converted to push style. theres no need for me to convert to push style seeing that i wont be seeing any type of heavy duty clutchs etc in the galant even if i do the clutch pedal will just be stiffer cause of the pull style(as i researched).

The stock sonata double plain flywheel sucks (well double plain flywheels in general as i red) when it comes to engine moding etc. they do offer a conversion kit that runs for 400-500 with the whole fly/clutch/tob set. I kept on searching and found a single plain flywheel for the santa fe which has the same engine clutch etc as the sonata. keep in mind that the santa fe comes with a double plain flywheel from factory . so this flywheel i bought is a oem replacement still waiting for it to be shipped and if it bolts up to my sonata pressure plate which its should then im golden.

now if that back fires which i highly doubt iv seen that the 4g eclipse uses a pull style clutch set up and the 4g69 are pretty much identical to the 64 so in theory there fly/clutch set should work with the sonatas tranny.

now the shifter linkage and stuff idk why people dont see that it wont work when all of my parts are from the sonata so its a straight swap over there wont be any problems with that. last things to figure out is if my stock axles work witch it should. but if not i might have to use the sonatas or even take them apart and make a combo with the galant and sonata. ether way i can make it work just orderd my flywheel so the last thing i need is that vss and hopefully no axels. ill make a thread when the swap is done

[beam514]

wait and see when i swap it in at spring break. only problems i ran in to was using the 3g eclipse fly/clutch set witch wont work because its a push style clutch and the sonata is pull style clutch. so the 3g eclipse tob wont work with the sonata transmission unless converted to push style. theres no need for me to convert to push style seeing that i wont be seeing any type of heavy duty clutchs etc in the galant even if i do the clutch pedal will just be stiffer cause of the pull style(as i researched).

The stock sonata double plain flywheel sucks (well double plain flywheels in general as i red) when it comes to engine moding etc. they do offer a conversion kit that runs for 400-500 with the whole fly/clutch/tob set. I kept on searching and found a single plain flywheel for the santa fe which has the same engine clutch etc as the sonata. keep in mind that the santa fe comes with a double plain flywheel from factory . so this flywheel i bought is a oem replacement still waiting for it to be shipped and if it bolts up to my sonata pressure plate which its should then im golden.

now if that back fires which i highly doubt iv seen that the 4g eclipse uses a pull style clutch set up and the 4g69 are pretty much identical to the 64 so in theory there fly/clutch set should work with the sonatas tranny.

now the shifter linkage and stuff idk why people dont see that it wont work when all of my parts are from the sonata so its a straight swap over there wont be any problems with that. last things to figure out is if my stock axles work witch it should. but if not i might have to use the sonatas or even take them apart and make a combo with the galant and sonata. ether way i can make it work just orderd my flywheel so the last thing i need is that vss and hopefully no axels. ill make a thread when the swap is done

be sure to take a TON of pics haha

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definitely will do :) hopefully ill be the first one i guess to do the swap.. yay

[Boosted]

What trasmission cou|d I use for my v6!

As of now, the Eclipse transmission is the only one that is known for sure to fit.


definitely will do :) hopefully ill be the first one i guess to do the swap.. yay

Maybe, but it's unofficial as there are people who might have done this swap but aren't members of forums to discuss this swap. As far as I'm concerned, I would rather spend the money on a Mitsubishi transmission over something produced by Hyundai other than their Tiburon and Genesis parts.

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i mean its hyundai branded but im sure its mistus quality.

[remarque]

Hyundai Has been coming up in the auto world. I mean 5 and 10 warranties, they must have faith in there products.

[anjeu209]

Isn't the bell housing different on the sonata from the eclipse

[Isaurio]

yes the tranny is a direct fit everything from the sonata will fit. all of it. and u name it brian cuz if i dont need it its yours. but just to say that motor will be getting built so if you have any tips it would be helpful.

What year is the Sonata?
Or do you have the VIN number of the car?

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my new flywheel came in yesterday and it fits. all the holes line up like they should :)

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now i have to make sure my axles work and im basically done with parts. still need to buy a vss too.

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as far as i know the floor shifter doesnt match up properly. the clutch pedal doesnt come over far enough it sits at the edge of the foot rest. and the break pedal doesnt have all the components as the g's.http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/5875/photo523.jpg
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please mind the nasty-ness of the the floor mounts i had nothing to do with it.

[WhiteGalant]

Strike 1

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i think im done no point in testing cables the ill have to basically do the whole swap wich isnt looking good . its safe to say that the swap isnt a direct drop in. and that hyundai is gay.

[remarque]

Gotta give you props for trying this, but why didn't you use the eclipse clutch and brake pedal. Then you could have made custom lines to match up to the master and slave. As for the shifter that's an easy fix. Just mount the Hyundai shifter to a piece of wood and mount the wood to the Galant shifter holes. Of course its ghetto, but it doesn't have to be permanent. If you need any Mitsubishi 5 speed parts let me know, I have some left over. I would like to see you finish this.

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I was thinking of just buying the lower half of the eclipes floor shifter/mount and see if it mounts up to the sonatas top half to fix the problem.The thing is i dont want to spend any more money seeing that i barely have any to play with. i can turn around and buy a full eclipes swap for under 200 since i have a cheap jy and ill know every thing fits.

The reason i didnt use the brake pedals and clutch is because i thought some one had all ready done the swap and some one mentioned that the pedals would work.

[remarque]

I feel you about the money part, but no one has done this swap that I know of. As for the Sonata/Eclipse hybrid shifter it won't fit unless you cut the top part off the eclipse shifter and bolt it down.

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well i decided to swap the tranny and ill tell you it doesnt fit 100% the rear mount is off some . i might need a eclipse tranny mount too but everything else fits with little to no problems.

[mrg7243]

Are you going to do a how to after this, or at least a parts list???

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yeah ill probably do a how to if the swap can be done with out too much fabrication.

[mrg7243]

cool thanks, are there any performance clutches for this setup??

[mko]

well i decided to swap the tranny and ill tell you it doesnt fit 100% the rear mount is off some . i might need a eclipse tranny mount too but everything else fits with little to no problems.

use ur 8g auto tranny mount

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the auto mount is different .the manual mount was just to wide so i was going to shave the sides off a little. i almost finished the swap but i pulled back after trying to start the car.I had everything hooked up except rear mount and tranny mount. the car started then just died like it was dragging something so i didnt spend a lot time trouble shooting just wanted the car running before monday.

i pulled out the tranny and notice the throw out bearing didnt engage, probably cause i didnt set up the slave properly.Idk if this cause the engine to stop after it cranked though. so im going to say everything fits but the tranny mount would need some trimming to fit and the rear stopper might need a plate to bring it over to the right like the automatic mount. I should of just swapped mounts but i was trying to hurry.

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well i decided to swap the tranny and ill tell you it doesnt fit 100% the rear mount is off some . i might need a eclipse tranny mount too but everything else fits with little to no problems.



use ur 8g auto tranny mount

I will give it another shot just playing around with the tranny a bit i notice the rear mount didnt have a adaption bracket like the eclipse or galant manny and auto transmission. so i went to the jy and picked up that bracket and it seems just right for it.

I also notice the transmission has an adapter plate for the transmission mount which shifted the tranny towards the front of the car which threw of the rear mount. i removed the adapt plate but the mount doenst line up with all holes so i have 2 alternatives 1. find a eclipse tranny mount cause my bet is thats the right size and 2. drill slots into the sonata mount to give it a universal fit.

if the eclipse mount drops in then the swap is 100% no fabrication except the usual drilling the master cylinder hole out