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bigmacak22
01-18-2010, 05:24 PM
hi there..just wanted to ask you..does any one knows how to install a HID XENON KIT..on the 1999 galant....i installed the xenon..but they are not bright as they need to be.what i did is plug it and play..i didn't do nothing else more..but i was watching the youtube video and it shows that i got to run the wire from a car battery to a fuse..so can someone tells me instructions..or is there a diagrams or informations that i can do that..thanks

03-Galant-ES
01-18-2010, 05:27 PM
I think those are the old kits I have a digital ballast HID kit and it plugged straight into harness.

johnygezony
01-18-2010, 05:32 PM
I think those are the old kits I have a digital ballast HID kit and it plugged straight into harness.

Yeah, kits are dirt cheap now, they should just plug right into the spot where your old Halogen bulbs where. what does your kit look like ?

bigmacak22
01-18-2010, 06:35 PM
my kit is look like simular to this one
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Xenon-HID-H7-8000K-Conversion-Kit-BMW-04-05-325Ci-330Ci_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem27ae1021d1QQitemZ 170424017361QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAc cessories

it's not the same but it's simular..so can you tell me do i need to do put the wire to a plus of the battery and to put the fuse in there and put the another end of the wire to a minus from battery..to get the lights brighter..now all i can see they are not a bright as i can see an another cars.what digital ballast can do...can someone explain to me..and how much and where to get it..thanks

03-Galant-ES
01-18-2010, 06:42 PM
my kit is look like simular to this one
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Xenon-HID-H7-8000K-Conversion-Kit-BMW-04-05-325Ci-330Ci_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem27ae1021d1QQitemZ 170424017361QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAc cessories

it's not the same but it's simular..so can you tell me do i need to do put the wire to a plus of the battery and to put the fuse in there and put the another end of the wire to a minus from battery..to get the lights brighter..now all i can see they are not a bright as i can see an another cars.what digital ballast can do...can someone explain to me..and how much and where to get it..thanks

you dont need an extra wire

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/1408/hidwire.gif

The corresponding colors are what plugs where each plug has all the plugs to each ballast I just circled whichever was open. If it is not bright it can be a cheaply made set I have digital ballasts with 35w 4300K Ill see if I can get you a picture of the lights on a wall or something here is what they looked like installed. Mine are in projectors, but your reflectors should show a lot of light as well.
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/3641/1002425z.jpg

AVERAGE
01-18-2010, 06:56 PM
I've never seen an aftermarket hid kit that plugged directly into a car's harness....

showtime
01-18-2010, 07:03 PM
I've never seen an aftermarket hid kit that plugged directly into a car's harness....

ddm tuning has them, thats how mine is wired.

03-Galant-ES
01-18-2010, 07:04 PM
ddm tuning has them, thats how mine is wired.

x2

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9103/hidadjusted8571.jpg
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/2436/hidadjusted8572.jpg
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/4966/hidadjusted8583.jpg

thats how mine look from ddm

johnygezony
01-18-2010, 07:17 PM
Plug and Play !

bigmacak22
01-18-2010, 08:22 PM
i got ballast and bulbs which is 30k..producing blue color

03-Galant-ES
01-18-2010, 08:26 PM
i got ballast and bulbs which is 30k..producing blue color

30K that should be like fucking Violet lol. You want either 6000 or 8000 they still have bluish tint but produce more light the higher the K after 6000 the duller they are. BMWs and most companies use 4300-4500K which is what I have.

OMEGA PHX
01-18-2010, 08:32 PM
i got ballast and bulbs which is 30k..producing blue color

Thats your problem 30k don't do sh!t, I have 8000K and they are awesome but 6000k is better, and 30000K should be like violet or pink.
HID kits nowdays just need to be plugged directly on the OEM harness and thats all Plug N Play.

bigmacak22
01-19-2010, 01:24 PM
which types of bulbs produces all blue color..are they 10k or others..i want to get new bulbs with ballasts...

03-Galant-ES
01-19-2010, 01:54 PM
which types of bulbs produces all blue color..are they 10k or others..i want to get new bulbs with ballasts...

8k is blue. 6k has a blue tint but is white.

OMEGA PHX
01-19-2010, 05:06 PM
which types of bulbs produces all blue color..are they 10k or others..i want to get new bulbs with ballasts...

Pure blue I think is like 10,000K or 12,000k but the visibility is horrible. If your going for visibility only go with 6000K(White with little blue tint) if your going for looks and functionality go with 8,000K(Bluer than 6K but still functional), that what I have and I love them. Its your choice but anything beyond 8,000K is strictly for looks and no functionality/visibility.

johnygezony
01-19-2010, 06:05 PM
if you dont have projectors and you are using a higher K-temp bulb, it looks really tacky IMO.

bigmacak22
01-19-2010, 10:21 PM
well i don't got projectors..my galant is 99 and it has stock headlights..but i just want to get a all blue color bulbs..i think that 12k is a all blue..by meaning with word all i meant trying to say when you driving a car the ground or the road should be blue color..nothing else..is a crystal color good..the one that bmw and audi has,,what is that number of k...

johnygezony
01-19-2010, 10:25 PM
ALL OEM APPLICATIONS ARE 4300-4500K. The blue that you see is because of the projector lense, its called lense flicker, where the focus lines are.

03-Galant-ES
01-19-2010, 10:34 PM
ALL OEM APPLICATIONS ARE 4300-4500K. The blue that you see is because of the projector lense, its called lense flicker, where the focus lines are.

x2 the lens flicker is also a good thing so since the blue isnt as bright if your light shines in someones eyes it doesnt blind them. I have OEM specs and I am very happy.

bigmacak22
01-20-2010, 10:14 AM
so if i get the projection headlight than it would be good for those hid xenons kits...or lets say the lights

johnygezony
01-20-2010, 03:36 PM
so if i get the projection headlight than it would be good for those hid xenons kits...or lets say the lights

Very much so, you wont be disappointed.

bigmacak22
01-21-2010, 01:56 PM
sorry guys for asking this..i'm not sure..about what kind of a bulb type does my galant has..it's 1999 mitsubishi galant es..does has h4 or h7..

Reelax
01-21-2010, 02:17 PM
USDM 8G (1999-2003) = H4. get bi-xenon or hi/low if you want to keep your high beams. stick between 4250K-6000K.

bigmacak22
01-21-2010, 05:59 PM
so if i get bixenon is that better

Reelax
01-21-2010, 06:43 PM
so if i get bixenon is that better

if you want to keep your high beams, then yes, get bi-xenon or hi/lo.

bigmacak22
01-22-2010, 07:50 AM
yes i want to keep my high beams..is bi-xenon works same as a regular hid xenon kit..does the bi-xenon kit offers a bulbs colors like 10000l blue etc

bigmacak22
01-22-2010, 07:51 AM
so i'm going to get a bi-xenon hi/low

johnygezony
01-22-2010, 09:45 AM
yeah ddmtuning.com has most colors. you wont have nearly as much light on the road with 10000k it wont make you see much better than you halogen bulbs.

03-Galant-ES
01-22-2010, 10:04 AM
yes i want to keep my high beams..is bi-xenon works same as a regular hid xenon kit..does the bi-xenon kit offers a bulbs colors like 10000l blue etc

why are you so hung up on blue lights? have you checked with you local dmv to see headlight laws in your area? You may be just throwing away money right now if you go straight blue. A blue tint is usually doable if it is illegal in your area.

Reelax
01-22-2010, 03:19 PM
stick between 4250K-6000K. the K is for kelvin, a unit to measure temperature, in this case color temperature. 4250K is the brightest (luminousity) and closest to sunlight, the farther you go from 4250K, the less luminousity (dimmer) AND less usable light. 10,000K would be very dark colored light just for show; u might as well drive around with a flashlight strapped to your hood, also the police would be more likely to pull you over for illegal lighting.

in order to keep your hi beams, bi-xenon accomplishies a shift in beam pattern by either moving the capsule or moving a shield. hi/lo uses an HID capsule for low beam and a piggyback halogen bulb for high beam.

littlerick
01-22-2010, 03:27 PM
the 8k is pretty blue to me, i wouldnt go above that. i wish i had gotten the 6k instead

procksa49er
01-22-2010, 06:49 PM
x2 littlerick and 6k ( i have those) stay away from 55w unless u have projectors was peoples advice to me (i have projectors i went 55w :) )

GirchyGirchy
02-22-2010, 12:52 PM
Hi,

First post here - trying to get some info on my wife's '01 Galant. Her headlights are just awful, not sure if that's typical of the cars or if it just needs new bulbs and maybe polish up the lens.

Anyway, are the general kits on DDM's site the one I'd need? Either the Apexcone Raptor or the DDM Slim Ballast kit? I'd like to keep the normal high/low operation, so it sounds like I'll need the H4 Hi/Lo bulbs for this, correct?

I'll be keeping the standard housing, will the 35W set really improve the light output?

Thanks!

Reelax
02-22-2010, 06:57 PM
Hi,

First post here - trying to get some info on my wife's '01 Galant. Her headlights are just awful, not sure if that's typical of the cars or if it just needs new bulbs and maybe polish up the lens.

Anyway, are the general kits on DDM's site the one I'd need? Either the Apexcone Raptor or the DDM Slim Ballast kit? I'd like to keep the normal high/low operation, so it sounds like I'll need the H4 Hi/Lo bulbs for this, correct?

I'll be keeping the standard housing, will the 35W set really improve the light output?

Thanks!

4250K 35w HID is at least 2x-3x brighter than halogen.

GirchyGirchy
02-23-2010, 09:14 AM
4250K 35w HID is at least 2x-3x brighter than halogen.

Nice, I'm really considering this now. Still have a couple of questions though...how does the H4 high/low switch between the two? Is there some sort of shield that moves up and down, or what? Someone had asked on the giant DDM thread but I never saw an answer.

Also, it sounds like I need to purchase and install the dedicated wiring harness which goes to the battery, judging by other threads. It appears that this would use all of the OEM wiring simply as a signal to the relay, and any power would run through the new thicker wiring harness. This would solve any issues related to melting harnesses, correct?

Thanks guys!

Joshua42007
03-02-2010, 12:55 PM
HID Is the way to go nowadays, like everyone has stated earlier make sure you dont get bulbs higher than 8k or else the light output wont be very good. Yes, you definitely need a wiring harness, unless the HID Ballast is digital you can just plug the ballast directly into the cars factory wiring harness. If your ordering from Ddmtuning.com and you purchase the Apexcone Raptor HID system you will need a wiring harness like this http://www.ddmtuning.com/index.php?p=product&id=133&parent=94 But of course you need to get in contact with them and see if they have a wiring harness that is made for a Bi Xenon setup (hi/low). I just replaced my set and i just now got my Apexcone Raptor HID set in the mail today, it came with the 2 HID Bulbs, and 2 HID Balast. No wiring harness comes with this kit like they say on their website, but i will just use my old one.

kglenn
03-02-2010, 03:31 PM
I thought the ddm tuning ones you didnt need the wiring harness for them or is that only the slim ballast thats plug and play?

AmericanJambo
03-02-2010, 03:50 PM
I just got my set of bi-xenon HIDs in the mail today and already installed them. Even in daylight they're still extremely bright if you look directly into them. 5000k temp. Mine are digital ballasts but they did have a wire that you connected directly to the battery which connected to a relay. You only connect one of the OEM headlight connectors to the HIDs. I prefer this method since it does't pull power through the OEM harnesses but directly through the battery via a relay.

kglenn
03-02-2010, 04:02 PM
so from reading this it looks like its not good to get the 12000K HIDs. those are the ones I wanted too! are they that much dimmer than the 5000 or the 6000K? Does anyone know if the slim ballast are better to buy then the bigger ones?

OMEGA PHX
03-02-2010, 04:48 PM
so from reading this it looks like its not good to get the 12000K HIDs. those are the ones I wanted too! are they that much dimmer than the 5000 or the 6000K? Does anyone know if the slim ballast are better to buy then the bigger ones?

I think they would be noticeable difference are going to be very dim cause they are like blue or violet. I wouldn't do it. For me the best balance between functionality and looks are the 8000K.

kglenn
03-02-2010, 04:53 PM
I think they would be noticeable difference are going to be very dim cause they are like blue or violet. I wouldn't do it. For me the best balance between functionality and looks are the 8000K.

Do you have the DDM tuning HID kit?

OMEGA PHX
03-02-2010, 07:42 PM
Do you have the DDM tuning HID kit?

This past weekend I installed a $30 Apexcone kit on my fogs, but my heads are a different kit. They are awesome, definitely a quality product.

Joshua42007
03-02-2010, 08:05 PM
I thought the ddm tuning ones you didnt need the wiring harness for them or is that only the slim ballast thats plug and play?

Yeah I believe thats only the slim ballast (digital) that requires no harness, the apexcone raptor setup (cheaper kit) requires the wiring harness, just installed mine.

Joshua42007
03-02-2010, 08:53 PM
so from reading this it looks like its not good to get the 12000K HIDs. those are the ones I wanted too! are they that much dimmer than the 5000 or the 6000K? Does anyone know if the slim ballast are better to buy then the bigger ones?

If you read up a little, on both TGC and ddmtuning.com you will find that digital is better, and also alot of helpfull info. ---> Fully digital, draws less than 6 amps at start up and 3.4 amps at normal operating temperature. This system provides 3200-3400 Lumens at 35 watts and an amazing 5000 Lumens at 55 watts per bulb. In comparison, a typical halogen bulb produces 900-1200 lumens.

What is the difference between 55w and 35w kits?
Our 55w HID kits are 40% brighter than the standard 35w kits.
The 55W system ballasts are about 1 cm longer than the 35W ballasts.
55w kits tend to wash out some of the color of the HID bulb due to the light output( for example, a 55w 8000k will look similar in color to a 35w 6000k kit).
Our 55w HID Kit is not recommended for smaller fog light housings because they tend to concentrate a large amount of heat in a small area.

AmericanJambo
03-03-2010, 09:03 AM
I have to say I LOVE the 5000k HIDs I just installed yesterday. The light is super crisp and bright white. The nice thing is they seem to draw a lot less power the the stock lights. My headlights and gauge lights don't dim when i'm stopped at a stop light now even with the ac running full blast. Nice.

03-Galant-ES
03-03-2010, 03:24 PM
Yeah I believe thats only the slim ballast (digital) that requires no harness, the apexcone raptor setup (cheaper kit) requires the wiring harness, just installed mine.

Pictures? I was gonna buy raptors for my fogs, but dont want to do more work then I have to.

kglenn
03-03-2010, 05:05 PM
how is DDM's shipping? pretty fast?

showtime
03-03-2010, 05:09 PM
how is DDM's shipping? pretty fast?

mine was 2 days but I heard since their prices went down their shipping slowed down a little...must be higher demand.

kglenn
03-03-2010, 06:04 PM
Yea before I knew about the slim ballast I was looking into the Raptors and they are backordered like a week! Fuck that! I'm going to get the slim ballast probally look a lot better and there plug and play

Joshua42007
03-04-2010, 12:50 PM
Pictures? I was gonna buy raptors for my fogs, but dont want to do more work then I have to.


This shows my ballast for my headlights, 55w raptor ballast from ddmtuning.com, on one side of the ballast are the connections for the headlight, the other side of the ballast connects to the wiring harness (Grounded by that blue speaker wire above my headlights lol).

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp326/joshua42008/Josh/Josh003.jpg

This is the relay that is connected to the wiring harness for the HID system.

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp326/joshua42008/Josh/Josh006.jpg

Here are my Digital ballast for my fog lights ( NOT from ddm tuning, ordered from http://www.hidxenonheadlights.com/)
http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp326/joshua42008/Josh/Josh004.jpg

This shows the digital ballast connections, one side plugs into your fog lights bulbs, the other side connects directly to your factory fog light wire connection
http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp326/joshua42008/Josh/Josh007.jpg

And yes i electrical taped the hell out of these things, they say they are completely water-proof but thats a bunch of BS. Ive had the connections get wet before and the lights failed. Luckily i dried them out and they worked again.

03-Galant-ES
03-04-2010, 01:10 PM
i wrapped all my connections too, but damn raptors have the add a fuse and ground harnesses? fuck that lol ill stick wih digital. i cant believe im gonna spend another 65 on these fogs, but the hids with the projectors will look nice i hope.

Joshua42007
03-04-2010, 01:19 PM
Yeah i know, that wiring harness is a real bitch compared to the digital setup. I ordered them by an accident. When you see the page for hid kits on ddm tuning, the apexcone kit is exactly to the left of the Slim kit, the text and links are almost connected! and like always i wasnt paying much attention when i ordered them and i thought i had ordered the slim ballast. But oh well, they work great and i did already have the wiring harness installed and i wasnt about to ship them back and sit and wait for the new ones. Im sure the HIDs with the projectors will look great man, alot better than halogen too

GirchyGirchy
08-06-2010, 09:07 AM
Sorry for the old bump....I just decided to go with some new standard halogen bulbs. It's amazing how dim those things get over time.