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Galantes2001
01-30-2010, 07:37 PM
Hey everyone in new to tgc i have to replace my hids because one of my old ones had lost its blueish color and was wondering what are the best and brightest hids to buy for the galant im looking for 30,000ks but if theres something brighter and blue please let me know Thnks mike

mrjaydeeone
01-30-2010, 07:48 PM
I am sure you have heard this before and you will hear it again over and over
4300k are the optimum color for HIDs they will produce the best light output
the higher the K rating the less output they will produce.
on my 8G I had 6K and then got 8K I actually liked the way both of those looked and the output they produced
on my 7G I had some true blue HIDs not even sure what color, they were just marked blue on the box, none of the K ratings were checked off. But the output wasn't anything spectacular, just really nice to look at. I have seen many cars with the purple HIDs and they are bright and glarey when they come up in your rearview mirror, but when you see the output they produce they don't do shit
I am about to pick up some DDM HIDs for a grand cherokee I just got and I am most likely going to get 6K for the whitish color with a hint of blue to it.

Galantes2001
01-30-2010, 07:51 PM
is there a difference between the 35w ballast and the 55w is there a greater light output with the 55??

KaziKai
01-30-2010, 07:55 PM
im using DDM's and I have 10k. I have not have any problems with them yet... I got the 50w ballast the output is not that bad I also have the Ebay Projectors it just sucks with the screwed up cut off.. but other then that those reflectors bumps on the freeway light up at least a mile... or less...

4300k is bright but yellow.. it depends on what color u like. i choose blue/purple..

What is your budget?

johnygezony
01-30-2010, 07:59 PM
4300k isnt that yellow, but it most certainly isnt pure white like say 5000k is, people tend to settle for 4500k, and 6000k(most popular) and the less popular 5000k which is my favorite.

Galantes2001
01-30-2010, 08:00 PM
I really dont have a budget because i had bought the cheap 10,000k ones last time paid like a $100 and after 6 months one of my headlights is blue and the other is white im just looking for something really bright i have the stock headlights and i took the piece that makes it reflect out i need bright hids because my windshield is tinted what do u think is the brightest

johnygezony
01-30-2010, 08:44 PM
4300k are the optimum color for HIDs they will produce the best light output
it.

ddm makes a 4500k kit that is Hi/Lo for 70.00 with lifetime warranty, and they also carry the apexicone that is the same but magnetic(as opposed to digital and slim) for 50.00 there colors are 3000k,4500k,5000k,6000k,8000k,10000k,12000k. Once again if you want lighting performance stick between 4300k-6000k,

polishmafia
01-30-2010, 09:10 PM
Hey everyone in new to tgc i have to replace my hids because one of my old ones had lost its blueish color and was wondering what are the best and brightest hids to buy for the galant im looking for 30,000ks but if theres something brighter and blue please let me know Thnks mike

Please search and read, not just here on TGC but anywhere regarding HIDs. The higher temp does not mean brighter output.

732Galant
02-03-2010, 06:51 PM
ddm makes a 4500k kit that is Hi/Lo for 70.00 with lifetime warranty, and they also carry the apexicone that is the same but magnetic(as opposed to digital and slim) for 50.00 there colors are 3000k,4500k,5000k,6000k,8000k,10000k,12000k. Once again if you want lighting performance stick between 4300k-6000k,

You said magnetic here, anyone have a review of the digital in comparison to magnetic? Ive been told by a buddy of mine who runs the local aftermarket shop and he said digital is the way to go. Just want another opinion.

johnygezony
02-03-2010, 07:02 PM
Yeah digital will last longer, Magnetic is cheaper but DDM tunning offers lifetime warranties on all of their kits magnetic being Apexcone and their own DDM brand being Digital. Magnetic ballasts are much larger and Digital are slim. The difference is only about 20.00$ but once again, this kind of knowledge is plastered all over the internet.

732Galant
02-03-2010, 07:05 PM
Thank you TGC Lieutenant, I was just however asking for an opinion.

Bloody Arro
02-03-2010, 11:47 PM
I'm content with my 6000K Hi/Los.

03-Galant-ES
02-03-2010, 11:58 PM
but once again, this kind of knowledge is plastered all over the internet.

<3

Hehe I went with 4500K 35w and they are pretty damn white. I am thinking of upgrading to 5000k 55w and using the 4500 in my highs.

The Kent
02-04-2010, 09:30 AM
Bixenon 4500k - 6000k 55w slim digital ballast

AGalant
02-04-2010, 12:07 PM
i have 6000k with a 35w that is what is recommend. can run 6000k n u up.but i suggest dont run the 55w.the reason is because it is to powerful n it can melt ur headlight.55w is recommend for the new cars.

johnygezony
02-04-2010, 04:16 PM
55w is to much light a reflector to handle, the amount of scattered light would blind others, and you if you are behind a car with a chrome bumper

The Kent
02-04-2010, 04:20 PM
Er... I had 55w 6000k HIDs in my F150 and I never had an issue.

03-Galant-ES
02-04-2010, 07:58 PM
Er... I had 55w 6000k HIDs in my F150 and I never had an issue.

I didnt know Ford F-150 and Galants had same headlight housing. Good info!

35w in a reflector will be more than enough to get brights flashed at you. 55w will be enough to melt peoples retinas.

I have projectors and that is the only way I would suggets 55w. Unless you are blind and in a Ford F150 and want to blind everyone you pull up behind at a light and make them want to get out of their lowered Gs and shoot you in the head. Seriously fuck SUVs with reflector HIDs you guys are assholes. Sorry if this offends anyone but I have like permanent HID burns on my eyes from trucks.

johnygezony
02-04-2010, 09:21 PM
I didnt know Ford F-150 and Galants had same headlight housing. Good info!

35w in a reflector will be more than enough to get brights flashed at you. 55w will be enough to melt peoples retinas.

I have projectors and that is the only way I would suggets 55w. Unless you are blind and in a Ford F150 and want to blind everyone you pull up behind at a light and make them want to get out of their lowered Gs and shoot you in the head. Seriously fuck SUVs with reflector HIDs you guys are assholes. Sorry if this offends anyone but I have like permanent HID burns on my eyes from trucks.

ROFLMAO ! I hate seeing big trucks with like 6000k's....its so annoying, and it looks tacky because most of them are not clear lenses so it looks like poop

kolio
02-04-2010, 11:21 PM
im using DDM's and I have 10k. I have not have any problems with them yet... I got the 50w ballast the output is not that bad I also have the Ebay Projectors it just sucks with the screwed up cut off.. but other then that those reflectors bumps on the freeway light up at least a mile... or less...

4300k is bright but yellow.. it depends on what color u like. i choose blue/purple..

What is your budget?

really? ya, no. they are oem color. my mazda 3 with oem hid's is exactly the same color

does this look yellow? my McCULLOCH HID's 4300k color

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m101/kolio2002/pics010copy.jpg
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m101/kolio2002/4300k.jpg

your thinking of 3500k

AktionCat
02-07-2010, 03:11 PM
Any of you with 8k or 10k running into issues with cops?

OMEGA PHX
02-07-2010, 03:29 PM
Any of you with 8k or 10k running into issues with cops?

Not here in PR atleast with 8k, soon to have matching 8k fogs.

minesbroken
02-16-2010, 06:46 AM
If you put them in just be prepared to buy new ballasts every year as soon as the warranty is up. The only good HID kits are factory HID kits. I have been installing these things since they were invented and they ALWAYS come back broken within a year or two...ALWAYS... I gave up on them, I just put Pia replacement bulbs in all my cars now. Nice and bright, good dispersion.
but then I drive my galant every day and count on the headlights not failing. If it's your second car then its not a big deal I guess.

OMEGA PHX
02-16-2010, 11:00 AM
DDM tuning has lifetime warranty so I think they are reliable go with DDM.

Reelax
02-16-2010, 06:04 PM
If you put them in just be prepared to buy new ballasts every year as soon as the warranty is up. The only good HID kits are factory HID kits. I have been installing these things since they were invented and they ALWAYS come back broken within a year or two...ALWAYS... I gave up on them, I just put Pia replacement bulbs in all my cars now. Nice and bright, good dispersion.
but then I drive my galant every day and count on the headlights not failing. If it's your second car then its not a big deal I guess.

HID kits are cheaper now than PIAA halogens now (i ran PIAA H4 super plasmas before i went full HID in JDM housings). HID capsules can be bought for $15 dollars a pair and ballasts can be bought for $15 each! my first HID kit was $650 almost 10 years ago!

minesbroken
02-17-2010, 06:33 AM
HID kits are cheaper now than PIAA halogens now (i ran PIAA H4 super plasmas before i went full HID in JDM housings). HID capsules can be bought for $15 dollars a pair and ballasts can be bought for $15 each! my first HID kit was $650 almost 10 years ago!

oddly enough I posted that yesterday morning and ended up replacing the HID bulb on one side and ballast on the other side of a customers altima for the third time 2 hours later at work.
that's irony lol.

minesbroken
02-17-2010, 06:44 AM
DDM tuning has lifetime warranty so I think they are reliable go with DDM.
I just cant see a forty dollar pair of HID light being quality. And even with a lifetime warranty, when the ballast goes bad you have no headlight while its in the mail. I prefer the rock solid reliability of a regular bulb and miss the days of nine dollar halogen headlights. It cost 18 dollars to do both headlights on my 76 camaro and honestly the lights were just as bright as the galant with the piaa bulbs in it. I think I had to change the headlights once in that car in the 12 years I owned it. Maybe not as bright as the HID's but I find that most aftermarket HID systems are poorly lined up, poorly installed and are always blinding me on the road for some reason. Not to mention the consistent poor quality of the product's available. Then even when they are installed correctly they dont last the better part of a year.
It's not they're fault though, there has been a decline in quality on all electronics to lower prices and produce quantity.
I have been installing automotive electronics for 23 years.
I have seen the 12 volt industry take a serious downhill dive.

charris
02-21-2010, 07:56 PM
I got the DDM 6000K hi/lo HIDs with the Apexcone ballasts over a year ago, and I have had no issues. It's my daily driver, I run the headlights whenever the car is on, and I put close to 1500 miles a month on it.

I'd recommend the 6000Ks for a flat white output. It's roughly daylight/sunlight temperature, and you won't lose too much output intensity.

johnygezony
02-21-2010, 09:57 PM
5000k FTW !

6g72lover
02-21-2010, 10:00 PM
i like da 12000k 32000k lmao

03-Galant-ES
02-21-2010, 10:13 PM
I just cant see a forty dollar pair of HID light being quality. And even with a lifetime warranty, when the ballast goes bad you have no headlight while its in the mail. I prefer the rock solid reliability of a regular bulb and miss the days of nine dollar halogen headlights. It cost 18 dollars to do both headlights on my 76 camaro and honestly the lights were just as bright as the galant with the piaa bulbs in it. I think I had to change the headlights once in that car in the 12 years I owned it. Maybe not as bright as the HID's but I find that most aftermarket HID systems are poorly lined up, poorly installed and are always blinding me on the road for some reason. Not to mention the consistent poor quality of the product's available. Then even when they are installed correctly they dont last the better part of a year.
It's not they're fault though, there has been a decline in quality on all electronics to lower prices and produce quantity.
I have been installing automotive electronics for 23 years.
I have seen the 12 volt industry take a serious downhill dive.


Maybe they should get a new mechanic? No offense, but DDMtuning kits come with a lifetime warranty on ballasts and HID bulbs are now cheap as hell so replacing them once a year isnt bad high output halogens can have a compromised lifetime as well.

To offer a lifetime warranty they must have some confidence in their products.

And also since you are an electronic expert how long can it take you to hook up some halogens if your HID ballast did fail while you wait for it to come in the mail.

Fresh_617
02-21-2010, 11:11 PM
HID kits are cheaper now than PIAA halogens now (i ran PIAA H4 super plasmas before i went full HID in JDM housings). HID capsules can be bought for $15 dollars a pair and ballasts can be bought for $15 each! my first HID kit was $650 almost 10 years ago!

hey relax didnt u have a hid kit that could change colors??? if that was u do they still make this??

03-Galant-ES
02-21-2010, 11:58 PM
hey relax didnt u have a hid kit that could change colors??? if that was u do they still make this??

He said in another thread as I recall it was just one company and he couldnt find them.

Fresh_617
02-22-2010, 02:06 AM
damn it must b cool to b able 2 change temp with out switchin bulbs hahahaha wow

Reelax
02-22-2010, 02:43 AM
hey relax didnt u have a hid kit that could change colors??? if that was u do they still make this??

i had a kit that had special ballasts and capsules that "sync'd" to each other and then had another control cable that ran to the cockpit w/ a switch and a 5 click dial... w/ the dial set at 1 and the switch for 10M mode off, the light output was 4250K, w/ the 10M mode on and the dial swept to 5, the HID was pinkish... it swept though to 10 different shades (5 clicks x 2 modes)from sunlight to light blue to light purple, finally pinkish (4250K~10000K); the brightest was 4250K then got increasingly darker as you clicked up. i demonstrated it a few times to socal members at meets. the kit was around $650... it never really "failed" but i took it out because after a few years the 'sync' cable went bad and one side would be a different color from the other.

another member asked me about it and if it was still availale but the company i got it from is long gone and their website is now a generic placeholder.

Galantes2001
03-12-2010, 07:56 AM
thats pretty sick though that it changed light temps