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tr1kst4nce
03-17-2010, 06:38 AM
I'd really like to get some fog lights that would give off a HID looking light, but when I look around on places like eBay, they all look so cheap and just not of good quality. So I had an idea and wanted some input and help.

What if I got these OEM foglights:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/04-05-06-07-08-2004-2006-2007-2008-GALANT-FOG-LIGHT-LAM_W0QQitemZ270542177766QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors _Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item3efd9205e6

Which I believe are set up for H1 bulbs. Then bought an H1 HID kit from ddm tuning. Then an H1 wiring harness such as:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/H1-H7-XENON-HID-RELAY-WIRING-HARNESS-US-SELLER-FAST-SHP_W0QQitemZ160380782409QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors _Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item2557708749

Then just buy a $2-$3 toggle switch from autozone.

Do you guys think it's possible and would work? And work well?

The only possible problem I'm seeing is the way the bulb would mount to the housing of the fog light. From pictures I've been looking at, it doesn't look like an H1 HID bulb mounts the same as a normal H1 halogen.

Orrrr..... do you guys think I should just buy one of the fog light kits off eBay and spend $10-$15 for some "HID looking" bulbs and swap them out?

Thoughts? Input? Experiences please?

Much appreciated.

keith6110
03-17-2010, 07:10 AM
im not really liking your idea personally. Definitely if you want an hid kit, don't go with a looks like HID kit. I've been doing this for the last 2 sets of light bulbs i replaced in my car. They make the light white and a little brighter. Definitely not a look like hid tho.

I just bought the hid kit off ebay. There's some really cheap ones, then for $10 more i found some reviews for people that have had them for over 2 years. The ones i got are from option racing through ebay. They make some other good quality parts as well which is why i decided this company. I'll be getting my kit tomorrow and installing friday night. I can take pictures for you of its light output and post.

Btw, the only reason im not a big fan of your idea is because it looks like they are going to need some modifications done and why not just go with a kit with no modding? Its just a different ballast fitment. Anyway, just my 2 cents

tr1kst4nce
03-17-2010, 07:35 AM
I see what you're saying, but the way the foglight housings are set up, it looks like the bracket to hold the light in place is for an H1, and I'm not sure if any other bulb brackets would fit in there. Looks like maybe a 9006 size bulb bracket would fit to where you twist the little teeth into place so it holds. What do you think?

tr1kst4nce
03-17-2010, 07:38 AM
it looks like they are going to need some modifications done and why not just go with a kit with no modding? Its just a different ballast fitment. Anyway, just my 2 cents

That's the only problem I'm running into, the bracket or whatever you wanna call it on the housing of the foglight that holds the bulb in place once you twist it, looks like its for an H1. But maybe a 9006 might work? The clearance in depth of the headlight looks like it would be ok.

I don't know how else to get a real HID system working on foglights without purchasing universal style foglights, where the mounting brackets don't look so sturdy or reliable.

Which ones did you buy exactly?

OMEGA PHX
03-17-2010, 09:02 AM
Dude a H1 is a H1 bulb it will always fit if the foglight come for that type of bulb, My 8g is a DE so I bought OEM fogs on Ebay that are 880 bulb type and got them installed, later bought a 880 HID kit on ddm and installed it

Joshua42007
03-17-2010, 09:04 AM
The only problem i ran into with my OEM fog lights, was that they were made out of plastic. I installed some 8000k Hid bulbs into my factory fog lights housing and the fog lights themselves began to melt a little and crack. Yeah, they started to melt and turn a brownish blackish color

OMEGA PHX
03-17-2010, 09:16 AM
The only problem i ran into with my OEM fog lights, was that they were made out of plastic. My installed some 8000k Hid bulbs into my factory fog lights housing and the fog lights themselves began to melt a little and crack. Yeah, they started to melt and turn a brownish blackish color
I think the melting thing depends in the Hid brand some bulbs run cooler than others but that just my opinion. We'll see

03-Galant-ES
03-17-2010, 10:11 AM
The only problem i ran into with my OEM fog lights, was that they were made out of plastic. My installed some 8000k Hid bulbs into my factory fog lights housing and the fog lights themselves began to melt a little and crack. Yeah, they started to melt and turn a brownish blackish color


I think the melting thing depends in the Hid brand some bulbs run cooler than others but that just my opinion. We'll see

He has a 9G so you guys talking about 8G fog light housings melting means nothing. To the OP you can use a 880 DDM Ballast with H1 DDM bulbs I believe since they are universal ballasts. All of the ddm ballasts have a 9006 plug where they get their power from then send power to the bulbs through negative and positive wires which go to different ends of the bulb. a 9006 is an upside down 880. If you bought an h1 hid set and then plugged in the 880 harness you have it would work you just need to find a way to secure it to the ballast.

There are 2 easy ways to do this without buying the h1 wiring harness. A third way it so buy an H1 kit. Take the H1 plugs and spice them into your positive and negative fog wires, this is really easy, and then just plug that into ballast and ballast to bulb.

I just took this picture for you
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a139/weirdo1808/HIDWire-1.jpg

You can do the Third way I just described with the H1 kit and it should all work out.

tr1kst4nce
03-17-2010, 02:22 PM
Ok, either I'm just not with it today and that's why I'm not getting part of what some of you are saying. Or I didn't explain it right at first. First, I have a 9g, and I have NO fog lights. Therefore I need to buy some, in this scenario I was thinking of getting OEM's, which means all I get is the housing, no harness, no bulbs, etc. Just the housing. So wouldn't that mean I would need some kind of relay wiring harness and a toggle switch to hook up foglights in general? THEN if I wanted HID, sure just plug and play with the ballasts and stuff. But... The main thing that I'm worried about is putting the HID bulb into the OEM foglight housing. Look at these 2 photos quick:

Back of housing (http://www.rambowtech.com/images/rambowtech/products/CYT19556900GALANT-1.JPG)
Underside of housing (http://www.rambowtech.com/images/rambowtech/products/CYT19556900GALANT-2.JPG)

Now look at an H1 HID bulb:

First view (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31224sJHDpL._SS400_.jpg)
Second view (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31zuU9IRJjL._SS400_.jpg)

The notches of the OEM socket to hold a halogen H1 bulb don't look like it would fit the H1 HID bulb and hold it into the housing? Is that making sense?

03-Galant-ES
03-17-2010, 02:37 PM
Ok, either I'm just not with it today and that's why I'm not getting part of what some of you are saying. Or I didn't explain it right at first. First, I have a 9g, and I have NO fog lights. Therefore I need to buy some, in this scenario I was thinking of getting OEM's, which means all I get is the housing, no harness, no bulbs, etc. Just the housing. So wouldn't that mean I would need some kind of relay wiring harness and a toggle switch to hook up foglights in general? THEN if I wanted HID, sure just plug and play with the ballasts and stuff. But... The main thing that I'm worried about is putting the HID bulb into the OEM foglight housing. Look at these 2 photos quick:

Back of housing (http://www.rambowtech.com/images/rambowtech/products/CYT19556900GALANT-1.JPG)
Underside of housing (http://www.rambowtech.com/images/rambowtech/products/CYT19556900GALANT-2.JPG)

Now look at an H1 HID bulb:

First view (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31224sJHDpL._SS400_.jpg)
Second view (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31zuU9IRJjL._SS400_.jpg)

The notches of the OEM socket to hold a halogen H1 bulb don't look like it would fit the H1 HID bulb and hold it into the housing? Is that making sense?

The HID bulbs are longer, but it should be able to fit for the most part. You would have to ask other 9G owners on that one. It makes more sense now why you need the harness sorry didnt know you didnt have the bulbs. If you want you could also just wire them to come on when head lights come on to save yourself some trouble. As for H1 HIDs fitting in there I am not sure.

tr1kst4nce
03-17-2010, 03:52 PM
The HID bulbs are longer, but it should be able to fit for the most part. You would have to ask other 9G owners on that one. It makes more sense now why you need the harness sorry didnt know you didnt have the bulbs. If you want you could also just wire them to come on when head lights come on to save yourself some trouble. As for H1 HIDs fitting in there I am not sure.

That's why I was thinking maybe with the socket, some 9006 HID bulbs would fit, looks like the little twist in socket would fit. I think...

I think there is plenty of clearance from front to back of the housing to fit for HID bulbs.

Or do you guys think I should just play it safe and get some "HID looking" bulbs that give off that white with a slightly bluish tint and put them in there to save some money. I'm going more for looks at this point rather than visibility of the fog lights, as visibility will be plenty with headlights.

But also, some nice halo fog lights would look good too. Anybody got some of those that are of good quality? I don't want to be replacing them after 6 months.

OMEGA PHX
03-17-2010, 04:30 PM
Those fogs aren't H1 they take 880, 9005,9006 bulbs Go HID theres plenty of room for them, and the harness for those bulbs look like this THIS (http://www.amazon.com/Putco-230880HD-Automotive-Lighting-Standard/dp/B001M9YG2Q) Buy OEM fogs, I personally went to someone that installed a relay and a toggle switch inside the car, here is a tut How To Wire Foglights (http://www.accessconnect.com/fog_driving_lights_wiring.htm)

tr1kst4nce
03-17-2010, 05:29 PM
Those fogs aren't H1 they take 880, 9005,9006 bulbs Go HID theres plenty of room for them, and the harness for those bulbs look like this THIS (http://www.amazon.com/Putco-230880HD-Automotive-Lighting-Standard/dp/B001M9YG2Q) Buy OEM fogs, I personally went to someone that installed a relay and a toggle switch inside the car, here is a tut How To Wire Foglights (http://www.accessconnect.com/fog_driving_lights_wiring.htm)

That's what I couldn't figure out, dealer says the bulbs are H1, and so does the bulb replacement guide. But the plugs didn't look H1. So 880, 9005, 9006 are pretty much all the same then as far as the socket that will hold it in place on the housing? That's a good deal.

The only thing is, I'd like to set up the fog lights to use a toggle switch, rather than install them to come on with my headlights. I know how to get everything else hooked up, but the plug that would normally run to connect to a toggle switch obviously wouldnt fit I think, and would have 2 wires right?

I would need a harness that I could use a toggle switch for.

Any suggestions OMEGA PHX?

keith6110
03-17-2010, 05:33 PM
yep i assumed he had an 8g galant =/ Sorry and forget anything i said lol.

tr1kst4nce
03-17-2010, 05:48 PM
Wait... I think I may get it now...

Take the plug with the blue wire on #5 in that pic below, and either cut the plug off and attach the wire that goes to the battery through the relay, to the battery plug on the toggle switch. Then take the wire attached to all the lights and junk and attach that to the terminal on the toggle switch... then run a ground wire from the toggle switch, and I got it.

Or... I can take the plug on #5 from the picture, and attach it to the plug you showed me from amazon, put the power to the power on the toggle switch, then the lights to the lights on the toggle switch.. and hook up a ground to the toggle switch.. and I'm done.... yeah?

Pretty much like hooking up regular fog lights (which I've done lots of times) except in this instance there is a plug that would normally go to the toggle switch or plug into the car, rather than a power and a cord from the lights to the toggle switch. Is this sounding right?

http://i.ebayimg.com/19/!Bm-Y)T!Bmk~$(KGrHqUH-CEEt66LPVf6BLhpM)tCJQ~~_12.JPG

OMEGA PHX
03-17-2010, 07:58 PM
I don't know anything about wiring or electrical but the guy that installed mine just used speaker wire, the two 880 harnesses, a relay and the toggle switch. For the +12v the guy used the parking light wire. Its something like this, use this as reference.
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z290/OMEGAPHX/16753d1148998462-help-fog-light-wir.jpg

03-Galant-ES
03-17-2010, 11:12 PM
My projector fogs are 9006 and my stock harness is 880. I can tell you the bulbs arent the same so you have to figure that out. Also the harnesses are inverted, the 880 has clips on opposite side of the 9006 so you can break the clip and flip the 880 harness for 9006 bulbs or vice versa. I would find out what bulbs those fogs really take. But you are right the replacements call for H1 but those are not H1s

OMEGA PHX
03-17-2010, 11:32 PM
Yep my bad 880 and 9005, 9006 aren't interchangeable, that fog has to be 9006, 9005, harness is the same in all three with minor modification, I saw that harness on pepboys it was a heavy duty harness made to resist extreme temperatures and it was like $10 each but you can try and buy them from ebay. I was at pepboys and saw that the difference between 9006 and 9005 was that 9006 bulb had the tip covered on some ceramic type of material and they were 55w, 9005 didn't had the tip thingy and they are made for 65w.

Lol Im trying to find some solid info on this but everywhere it says its a H1 bulb.

EDIT: The mystery has been solved, found a drawing that explains why it doesn't look like H1 from the back but it actually is VVV

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z290/OMEGAPHX/6242030.gif
The harness is the 880, 9005,9006 but the bulb is indeed H1, so H1 HID kit and the harnesses from a automotive store.

tr1kst4nce
03-18-2010, 12:58 AM
Damn... my freakin head hurts from all this. Between researching relay's to figure how they work with toggle switches... etc...

From what I've seen of what you just posted and the bulbs of an H1 HID kit from the install guide at DDM tuning... which can be seen here (https://www.ddmtuning.com/support/index.php?_m=downloads&_a=viewdownload&downloaditemid=9&nav=0,1) there's no way for an H1 to mount to the housing of our OEM fogs. Unless I can see the housing and see if another bulb's rim will fit in there like the "harness" in your picture. But I'm not willing to spend the money to get those lights and find out I can't do it. Seems it will even be a pain in the butt to get them set up with regular bulbs... I dunno.

Darnit... I give up lol... I have NO idea how to do this now.

Unless the harness is just like a 9006 and you can take it out and put a regular 9006 HID bulb in and it fits... but I don't know if it would... it's risky to pay just to find out and then find out it might not work. Wasted money...

03-Galant-ES
03-18-2010, 01:01 AM
Damn... my freakin head hurts from all this. Between researching relay's to figure how they work with toggle switches... etc...

From what I've seen of what you just posted and the bulbs of an H1 HID kit from the install guide at DDM tuning... which can be seen here (https://www.ddmtuning.com/support/index.php?_m=downloads&_a=viewdownload&downloaditemid=9&nav=0,1) there's no way for an H1 to mount to the housing of our OEM fogs. Unless I can see the housing and see if another bulb's rim will fit in there like the "harness" in your picture. But I'm not willing to spend the money to get those lights and find out I can't do it. Seems it will even be a pain in the butt to get them set up with regular bulbs... I dunno.

Darnit... I give up lol... I have NO idea how to do this now.

Could attempt what I did I bought MDX projectors and fit them to my fog housing. I am sure you can do something similar. Then just get 9006 HIDs and 9006 harness.

Reelax
03-18-2010, 01:35 AM
The only problem i ran into with my OEM fog lights, was that they were made out of plastic. I installed some 8000k Hid bulbs into my factory fog lights housing and the fog lights themselves began to melt a little and crack. Yeah, they started to melt and turn a brownish blackish color

this quote alone should make you scrap the OEM foglights if you wanna run HID in them. if the front lens is plastic, it will melt.

do you have fog lights right now? if not, then you are not limited to using OEM foglights since you still have to buy foglights in the first place.

the solution is to find some glass fog lights and run whatever size HID capsule that they would have taken in their halogen size.

i have 3 full sets of HID on my car and am running all through relay harnesses. it's EASY. don't complicate things.

tr1kst4nce
03-18-2010, 02:09 AM
this quote alone should make you scrap the OEM foglights if you wanna run HID in them. if the front lens is plastic, it will melt.

do you have fog lights right now? if not, then you are not limited to using OEM foglights since you still have to buy foglights in the first place.

the solution is to find some glass fog lights and run whatever size HID capsule that they would have taken in their halogen size.

i have 3 full sets of HID on my car and am running all through relay harnesses. it's EASY. don't complicate things.

Well, I thought of that, with the whole melting thing. But the replacement bulbs for the OEM fogs are 55watts, which I assumed would put out enough heat to make a cheap housing melt, but you may have a point.

The problem is when I look on ebay, most of the fog lights I find look so... cheap, and generic. Especially the mounting brackets. Which is one thing I liked about the OEM mounting brackets, they looked secure and sturdy and made them fit nicely.

Another thing that doesn't make much sense to me with the whole relay harness thing (and maybe you can explain this to me Reelax), is... if you look in the picture here, see the #5 plug? I assume that would be the one that would normally plug to the OEM plug to toggle the lights on or off, or in this case an aftermarket toggle switch, but the plug wouldnt match up. So... would the blue wire go to the power source prong on the toggle switch.. and the black to the light switch.. adn then run a seperate wire from the toggle switch ground to a ground source... and then be done?.. Or....?

That's the ONLY thing that confuses me with these damn relay harnesses... I get EVERYTHING else...

With normal fog lights kits without a relay harness, you would hook the power to one prong on the toggle switch.. the wire from the lights to another prong.. and the one prong to the ground... which is what makes me assume this is kind of the same thing?

Am I correct or am I missing something?

Do you have any suggestions for some good after market fog lights with metal housings and glass lenses? I would LOVE some projectors.

http://i.ebayimg.com/19/!Bm-Y)T!Bmk~$(KGrHqUH-CEEt66LPVf6BLhpM)tCJQ~~_12.JPG

03-Galant-ES
03-18-2010, 02:31 AM
this quote alone should make you scrap the OEM foglights if you wanna run HID in them. if the front lens is plastic, it will melt.

do you have fog lights right now? if not, then you are not limited to using OEM foglights since you still have to buy foglights in the first place.

the solution is to find some glass fog lights and run whatever size HID capsule that they would have taken in their halogen size.

i have 3 full sets of HID on my car and am running all through relay harnesses. it's EASY. don't complicate things.

This issue with that is that Joshua has an 8G and OP has a 9G I know the fogs are different, but cannot comment on the quality.

I am running MDX Halogen projectors and 3000k 35w hids. I love them so OP that is something you can look into.

Reelax
03-18-2010, 06:42 AM
Well, I thought of that, with the whole melting thing. But the replacement bulbs for the OEM fogs are 55watts, which I assumed would put out enough heat to make a cheap housing melt, but you may have a point.

The problem is when I look on ebay, most of the fog lights I find look so... cheap, and generic. Especially the mounting brackets. Which is one thing I liked about the OEM mounting brackets, they looked secure and sturdy and made them fit nicely.

Another thing that doesn't make much sense to me with the whole relay harness thing (and maybe you can explain this to me Reelax), is... if you look in the picture here, see the #5 plug? I assume that would be the one that would normally plug to the OEM plug to toggle the lights on or off, or in this case an aftermarket toggle switch, but the plug wouldnt match up. So... would the blue wire go to the power source prong on the toggle switch.. and the black to the light switch.. adn then run a seperate wire from the toggle switch ground to a ground source... and then be done?.. Or....?

That's the ONLY thing that confuses me with these damn relay harnesses... I get EVERYTHING else...

With normal fog lights kits without a relay harness, you would hook the power to one prong on the toggle switch.. the wire from the lights to another prong.. and the one prong to the ground... which is what makes me assume this is kind of the same thing?

Am I correct or am I missing something?

Do you have any suggestions for some good after market fog lights with metal housings and glass lenses? I would LOVE some projectors.

http://i.ebayimg.com/19/!Bm-Y)T!Bmk~$(KGrHqUH-CEEt66LPVf6BLhpM)tCJQ~~_12.JPG

if you wire fog lights directly to a switch you will burn out the switch since fog lights will load the circuit more than most switches can handle. the relay harness does 2 things. it sends power to the fog lights directly from the battery and isolates the switch from seeing heavy loads. think of the relay as a remotely operated switch that when it sees current (switch on), it will send power from it's battery hookup directly to the fogs and cut power when that current is taken away (switch off).

so in the picture u posted,

1. goes to HID ballast for fog furthest from the battery
2. goes to HID ballast for fog closest to the battery
3. goes to battery positive terminal
4. goes to battery negative or ground
5. goes to existing fog wiring closest to the battery (trigger); blue is postive, black is negative.
6. os the SPDT relay

if any of the connectors don't match what you have, you can cut them off and replace w/ a connector that matches what you have.

the relay harness only needs to get triggered from 1 set of fog light wires (tape off the second).

if you do not have existing wiring, then on plug number 5, black goes to ground and blue goes to a switch that will interrupt a positive wire, preferably one that is only "hot" when your low beams are on so that you can only turn on the fogs when the headlights are on.

tr1kst4nce
03-18-2010, 09:00 AM
5. goes to existing fog wiring closest to the battery (trigger); blue is postive, black is negative.

if any of the connectors don't match what you have, you can cut them off and replace w/ a connector that matches what you have.

the relay harness only needs to get triggered from 1 set of fog light wires (tape off the second).

if you do not have existing wiring, then on plug number 5, black goes to ground and blue goes to a switch that will interrupt a positive wire, preferably one that is only "hot" when your low beams are on so that you can only turn on the fogs when the headlights are on.

Well, I have no existing wiring for fogs, because the car has no fog lights. I'd like the fog lights to be able to run independently. Meaning if I wanted to, I'd like to be able to turn them on without the headlights or even parking lights being on. Or AT LEAST to have fogs on only when parking lights are on and not lo's. So... to set it up like that, where would #5 go then? What kind of switch would I use for that? I assume a normal switch like this (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/12V-ROUND-ROCKER-SWITCH-W-BLUE-LED-TOGGLE-SW-SPST_W0QQitemZ320352276708QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotor s_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item4a967bd0e4) wouldn't work... or am i wrong?

Reelax
03-18-2010, 11:06 AM
double check if you have existing wiring... sometimes they just have it there as it is easier to assemble the car w/ wiring/harnesses the same for all models... they just leave out the actual lights and switch.

03-Galant-ES
03-18-2010, 11:15 AM
Is that an old style HID kit you posted or is that what magnetic kits look like? I am waiting on my magnetic kit for the highs, but my lows and fogs look like the one I posted with the ballast and wires to bulb thats it they are digital so may be different.

Also if wiring isnt there and you want it to turn on when the driving lights are on you could tap those wires. I tapped them for my halos.

you also can use a simple round switch like you posted and you can probably follow this tutorial almost completely.

https://www.thegalantcenter.org/showthread.php?t=31717

OMEGA PHX
03-18-2010, 12:15 PM
I have DDM magnetic kit and they are like the ones you posted, the other picture is from a wiring harness you buy when you want to take the power for the HID directly from the battery instead from the factory harness or in this case you don't have the wiring at all. My 01 DE didn't came prewired, don't know if thats the case of the 05 and up.

You can't a simpler explanation:
Need wire
Relay
Switch
Bulb Harness
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z290/OMEGAPHX/16753d1148998462-help-fog-light-wir.jpg

Reelax
03-18-2010, 02:09 PM
Well, I have no existing wiring for fogs, because the car has no fog lights. I'd like the fog lights to be able to run independently. Meaning if I wanted to, I'd like to be able to turn them on without the headlights or even parking lights being on. Or AT LEAST to have fogs on only when parking lights are on and not lo's. So... to set it up like that, where would #5 go then? What kind of switch would I use for that? I assume a normal switch like this (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/12V-ROUND-ROCKER-SWITCH-W-BLUE-LED-TOGGLE-SW-SPST_W0QQitemZ320352276708QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotor s_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item4a967bd0e4) wouldn't work... or am i wrong?

that switch will work fine. wire one side of it to a positive wire that is only hot when the accessories are on, the other side goes to the blue wire from the relay harness... that way your fogs arm when you turn your car on (or turn on with switch left in the on position) then turn off when the car is turned off so you don;t drain your battery. alternatively, wire it to a positive wire from your parking lights, so when you turn on your parking lights the fog will be armed (and on if u leave the switch in that position). if you are ambitious, you could also run a wire from the switch to the harness of your gauges to light up the fog indicator bulb in your cluster.

tr1kst4nce
03-18-2010, 02:26 PM
that switch will work fine. wire one side of it to a positive wire that is only hot when the accessories are on, the other side goes to the blue wire from the relay harness... that way your fogs arm when you turn your car on (or turn on with switch left in the on position) then turn off when the car is turned off so you don;t drain your battery. alternatively, wire it to a positive wire from your parking lights, so when you turn on your parking lights the fog will be armed (and on if u leave the switch in that position). if you are ambitious, you could also run a wire from the switch to the harness of your gauges to light up the fog indicator bulb in your cluster.

There are 3 prongs on the switch, I assume the third would be ground still. You said to wire one side of it to a positive wire that is only hot when the accessories are on. I'm not sure which accessory would be good to use for that. Then hook up the blue wire to the other (non ground) prong of the switch. But what about the black wire that goes along with the blue one that would have been on the end of the plug?

If I wired it to the positive wire for the parking lights, would those wires draw enough energy to power the foglights? I'm a little weary of drawing the power from some other accessory or lighting to power the foglights. Wouldn't it just be easier to hook up the positive wire up to draw power directly from the battery?

You guys think I'll be able to just jack the front of the car up a bit and get under there to install foglights fairly easily? Or do you think I'll have to take the bumper off? Remember it's a 9g

Reelax
03-18-2010, 03:52 PM
There are 3 prongs on the switch, I assume the third would be ground still. You said to wire one side of it to a positive wire that is only hot when the accessories are on. I'm not sure which accessory would be good to use for that. Then hook up the blue wire to the other (non ground) prong of the switch. But what about the black wire that goes along with the blue one that would have been on the end of the plug?

stop assuming, it's causing you to be more confused. there are 2 main prongs on the switch you posted. those are for a wire that you will interrupt w/ the switch when it is "off" and create continuity when the switch is "on". the other prong(s) is/are for the LED in the switch itself. the black wire (#85), that is paired w/ the blue wire (#86) on the relay harness, goes to ground.


If I wired it to the positive wire for the parking lights, would those wires draw enough energy to power the foglights? I'm a little weary of drawing the power from some other accessory or lighting to power the foglights. Wouldn't it just be easier to hook up the positive wire up to draw power directly from the battery?

you are totally missing the reason for having a relay. you are not powering the foglights drectly from the positive wire you hook up to the switch. you are actually powering the relay; the relay, once it sees current across it's coil (pins #85 and #86 on the relay), then draws power directly from the battery and sends it to the fog lights, bypassing the switch and trigger wires. this will isolate the switch and trigger wires from seeing high amps. if you hook up the positive wire from the foglight directly to the battery, your fogs will always be on, even after you turn your car off.


You guys think I'll be able to just jack the front of the car up a bit and get under there to install foglights fairly easily? Or do you think I'll have to take the bumper off? Remember it's a 9g

no idea. i have never worked on a 9g.

tr1kst4nce
03-18-2010, 04:30 PM
Ok... I think I got it now... Kinda helps that the diagram that OP has up is showing now, didn't show before.

Let me just sum up. Take the blue wire and connect it to the prong on the switch that toggles the lights on. Run another wire from the positive prong of the switch to the hot (positive) wire of the parking lights.

And the other black wire that runs along with the blue wire I would find a ground for. Or would I hook it to the ground prong on the switch?

Am I right?

I'm pretty damn sure I get it now. I just hope the switch will be labeled which prong is which, since I can't tell from the photo.

Reelax
03-18-2010, 05:08 PM
Ok... I think I got it now... Kinda helps that the diagram that OP has up is showing now, didn't show before.

Let me just sum up. Take the blue wire and connect it to the prong on the switch that toggles the lights on. Run another wire from the positive prong of the switch to the hot (positive) wire of the parking lights.

And the other black wire that runs along with the blue wire I would find a ground for. Or would I hook it to the ground prong on the switch?

Am I right?

I'm pretty damn sure I get it now. I just hope the switch will be labeled which prong is which, since I can't tell from the photo.

the black wire goes to a ground not to the switch.

tr1kst4nce
03-18-2010, 05:18 PM
Then that settles it... Now I just gotta get under there and see if there is existing wiring... pick out some fog lights... and yeah...

I'll be posting some fog light selections I'll be looking at and see what everyones input is.

Thanks again for the help everybody!

OMEGA PHX
03-18-2010, 05:59 PM
I'm just gonna say that I'm surprise none of the many knowledgeable 9G guys have help you with your specific needs and the only ones trying to help are Reelax, 03-Galant and I, all 8G guys.

03-Galant-ES
03-18-2010, 07:26 PM
I'm just gonna say that I'm surprise none of the many knowledgeable 9G guys have help you with your specific needs and the only ones trying to help are Reelax, 03-Galant and I, all 8G guys.

Cause 8G owners rock! Hehe tr1kst4nce you should take step by step photos and post them on this thread and make another thread in the 9G how to section so that other members with similar questions can look at your experience for reference.

tr1kst4nce
03-18-2010, 10:02 PM
Cause 8G owners rock! Hehe tr1kst4nce you should take step by step photos and post them on this thread and make another thread in the 9G how to section so that other members with similar questions can look at your experience for reference.

I planned on doing that actually. Hopefully I do everything right from the get go so I don't have to go back and retake pictures lol.. I'll let you guys know how it goes. I'm shopping ebay right now for foglights... I THINK I found JUSt want I want. I'm gonna start a thread quick with my selections and get some input quick. So feel free.

By the way... to those of you that did help me out... much appreciated! Can't say I have TOO much to contribute in experience, but I do what I can.

03-Galant-ES
03-18-2010, 10:09 PM
I planned on doing that actually. Hopefully I do everything right from the get go so I don't have to go back and retake pictures lol.. I'll let you guys know how it goes. I'm shopping ebay right now for foglights... I THINK I found JUSt want I want. I'm gonna start a thread quick with my selections and get some input quick. So feel free.

By the way... to those of you that did help me out... much appreciated! Can't say I have TOO much to contribute in experience, but I do what I can.

If you are looking for projectors I can give you the link to my seller where I got mine. He is a great guy with quality products and service.

tr1kst4nce
03-18-2010, 10:59 PM
If you are looking for projectors I can give you the link to my seller where I got mine. He is a great guy with quality products and service.

Sweet!

Hook me up so I can compare to a few of these I found. I even found a set of nice projectors with halo's equipped.

I'll be posting what I found shortly, but yes hook me up so I can compare.

03-Galant-ES
03-18-2010, 11:06 PM
Sweet!

Hook me up so I can compare to a few of these I found. I even found a set of nice projectors with halo's equipped.

I'll be posting what I found shortly, but yes hook me up so I can compare.

He is no longer selling the ones that I got from him sadly, but here he is

http://shop.ebay.com/hidretr0deals/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p3686

I am sure he will restock on MDX ones at some point.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ACURA-MDX-04-05-06-PROJECTOR-SET-OEM_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem588254ee0fQQitemZ38 0143726095QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAcce ssories

tr1kst4nce
04-01-2010, 01:56 PM
I got all the stuff I needed to put HID in some fog lights. Just got the HID kit from DDM today. Word to the wise people. UPS out of California is slow as hell. Use the USPS Priority Mail. Guaranteed 2-3. Same price or cheaper.

I'll be posting a "how to" with pictures and stuff hopefull on the foglights.