whats wrong with this picture?

[wrakd]

whats wrong with this picture?

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/3260/1081/33148040042_large.jpg

and the head....

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/3260/1081/33148040043_medium.jpg

[03-Galant-ES]

Cant see all I see is there is an issue with piston #3 or 2nd from the right.

[beam514]

they're too small, that's what's wrong! LOL

But on a serious note, try to put up larger photos so we could check out what your situation is.

[wrakd]

hah...you guys are quick i was still putting it up

[wrakd]

but dudes yeah...my shit is totally f*cked too bad I couldnt take a picture of the damage the rod did to the block its def over .5mm deep it sucks but I guess the upside is....NEW MOTOR!


pictures come out right here:
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3314804/2

[03-Galant-ES]

hah...you guys are quick i was still putting it up

Haha I like live on here you gotta be quick :) Umm I see the issue now there is no piston in #3 like I said and looks like carbon or metallic build up on 1, 2 and 4


but dudes yeah...my shit is totally f*cked too bad I couldnt take a picture of the damage the rod did to the block its def over .5mm deep it sucks but I guess the upside is....NEW MOTOR!

So you getting evo engine? :)

[beam514]

looks like #3 on the cylinder head isn't too.. healthy.. lol

and 4G63T... yummy. *licks lips* though i think some guys are doing 4G64 block and internals with 4G64 head? I don't know for sure though I'm not a 4 cylinder guy

[wrakd]

dam yea i wish i could get an evo engine....but funds are short on an unexpected breakdown like that probably buy a re-manufactured bottom end and swap the stock pistons out of it with wiseco or manley
http://www.maperformance.com/image.php?type=T&id=16238&ts=1228607525

get a new stock head for now maybe with an AEM cam gear or i dont even know
i was looking at these blocks ones a core and ones built stock spec check it out:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-4-DSM-4G64-Mitsubishi-7-Bolt-Engine-Block_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2305fe8454QQitemZ 150424421460QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAc cessories

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MITSUBISHI-00-04-ECLIPSE-4G64-SHORT-BLOCK-MISB4G64FL_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem56357c4d4dQQ itemZ370264526157QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fParts Q5fAccessories

what do you think ?advice is appreciated thanks

[qnz]

wheres the piston head on #3? I only see the wrist pin and rod....

[wrakd]

its crazy but apparently it shuddered.....i found the piston in pieces in the bottom end i couldnt even rotate the engine to get to the flywheel bolts to pull the motor out...

[mrg7243]

the piston pulled a houdini lol

[03-Galant-ES]

So you're planning on a rebuilt bottom end, why not drop a few hundred more buy yourself an early xmas present and dohc swap it as well. You're head looks shot too from what I can see and I imagin piston 3 is what I see all over 1, 2 and 4

[wrakd]

yeah pretty much but stock evo heads are at least 1000 bucks all stock.... plus you need other crap probably... it wont just learn how to spin two cams itself right

[Galantfan88]

Wooooo $1000.00 where are you looking buddy? Sorry about what happend to the motor...and yeah it seems to be that cylinder # 3 is well...completly dead.lol but if you look around Im sure you can find a good priced Evo head.

Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/03-04-05-LANCER-EVOLUTION-8-CYLINDER-HEAD-4G63-EVO8-MR_W0QQitemZ370349177610QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_ Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item563a87fb0a

You have everything out and taken apart already why not buddy? Its really not that hard and not as much as you think it is.

[qnz]

Wooooo $1000.00 where are you looking buddy? Sorry about what happend to the motor...and yeah it seems to be that cylinder # 3 is well...completly dead.lol but if you look around Im sure you can find a good priced Evo head.

Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/03-04-05-LANCER-EVOLUTION-8-CYLINDER-HEAD-4G63-EVO8-MR_W0QQitemZ370349177610QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_ Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item563a87fb0a

You have everything out and taken apart already why not buddy? Its really not that hard and not as much as you think it is.


thats just the bare head. He still needs the valve cover, intake manifold, sensors, throttle body, timing belt, radiator neck, adjustable cam gears. $1000 is on the low end of the price spectrum. It will cost closer to $1500 for a complete head.

[wrakd]

yeah an evo head is like an ultimate upgrade, but for that much money im rebuilding the whole motor i think i can stick around with the SOHC head for a little longer until I have more cash for the evo head swap...but nothing stops me from building the bottom end thats why I was looking into good ass pistons cuz i know the rods and crank are forged... but its sorta hard to find pistons for a stock spec 4g64 SOHC

[Galantfan88]

OoOoOoo I see now, I was only thinking about just the head itself.lol

[Galantfan88]

yeah an evo head is like an ultimate upgrade, but for that much money im rebuilding the whole motor i think i can stick around with the SOHC head for a little longer until I have more cash for the evo head swap...but nothing stops me from building the bottom end thats why I was looking into good ass pistons cuz i know the rods and crank are forged... but its sorta hard to find pistons for a stock spec 4g64 SOHC

Pistons you prob wont find anywhere since they have to be costum made for our motors unless someone out there already has it done and decided to sell it. I would go with CP Pistons if your going with forged pistons...they are good. Just take things slow and make sure you know what your doing, I really thing you should wait if you can...just to save the money and think about what you want.

[wrakd]

what I want is this kit with the ross pistons ::

http://www.importperformanceparts.net/imports/pek-mitsubishi.html

in a stock block and tweak the head a bit...cam gear, steel valves, oil lifters.....
and when i get enough cash again..turbo

[wrakd]

btw Galantfan88 where did you get that RPW camchaft you got

[mrg7243]

http://www.rpw.com.au/shop/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=1180&category_id=147&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=31 heres the ordering page
http://www.rpw.com.au/shop/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=111&Itemid=25 info on there camshafts
http://www.rpw.com.au/Products/Engine%20Components/Camshaft%20Specifications/camspec4g64s16.htm and the differents grinds availible for our car.
JW where did your find steel valves, and do you mean hydraulic lifters instead of oil??

[wrakd]

yeah hydraulic lifters....but hey I probably couldnt even run that turbo camshaft unless i got a turbo also, I mean it wont run right without a turbo right? so probably pull the head again when I wanna turbo it and then put the camshaft in....and the valves

http://www.maperformance.com/manley-performance-valves-dsm-evo.html

[mrg7243]

man i got bad news those wont fit our cars
http://www.manleyperformance.com/sc/mk/mitsubishi/4g63_valves.shtml
its for the year 1990-2000, so its for the 7g's correct me if im wrong but i dont think 7g parts are compatible. I searched on club3g and here about steel valves, and it came up with nothing for the 8g's