Suspension Q's

[P'NOYcaL]

sorry for the noob question. I'm sure i've came along reading about wearing down struts when changing the stock springs into (lowering springs)? If that's true, does that mean after lowering my car I'm gonna have to eventually replace my STOCK struts? If so how long does each NEW set last on average?

Also talking about coilovers, does that need some maintenance too(meaning constantly replacing them)?

Thanks!

[Reelax]

depends.

[7gvr4]

im pretty sure iv never heard of anyone wearing out there struts because they swapped to lowering springs, if that was the case id think that retailers/installers would let you know it could happen

[Joshua42007]

I had the same question. I replaced all my struts with Gabriel ones from auto zone, and i was wondering if i would have a problem installing lowering springs. But, OMEGA told me your shocks/strut are more likely to blow sooner than normal, because OEM shocks aren't designed to be used in lowered cars.

[7gvr4]

from my personal experience the thing thats going to wear out after faster than anything is your lower suspension arms, iv replaced them 3 times in the last five years but only the front ones, not a big deal they arnt expensive

but if your really worried just go to adjustable coilovers, your lower arms are going to wear out anyway but thats going to happen anyway so who cares

of course if go to coil overs your handling's going to improve ten fold, for instance my 7g beats evo's through corners without trying but its down to personal preference. if you want the look then just go springs but if you want handling and the look then go for coilovers

[P'NOYcaL]

Thanks for the input!

[beam514]

Stock/OEM struts will blow out eventually. How fast? That depends on your drop height and your driving style. If you can handle the stiffness for daily driving and are able to save money, save the money now and get Coilovers. I wish that I did.

[OoreelaxoO]

im pretty sure iv never heard of anyone wearing out there struts because they swapped to lowering springs, if that was the case id think that retailers/installers would let you know it could happen

hahahahah.

[P'NOYcaL]

Any suggestions on what coilovers I should get?

[OMEGA PHX]

Well my personal experience is that right now I have one OEM rear strut blown, it's been a year now since I lowered my car. I'm lowered like 2" all-around. I'm not going to replace them cause I'm going to save for coilovers. I am going to buy D2 Coilovers, I've asked many members with different brands and the D2 coiovers seem to provide the most comfortable ride of all of them, I just want coilovers for the ride adjustability but want to have a comfortable ride and D2's seem to be the most comfortable.

[Reelax]

ok i didn't have time to answer you well the first time. the question you should be asking yourself is how low do you want to go? depending on the answer to this question, that will determine what kind of setup to get.

if you are only lowering mildly around .5"~1.5", just get lowering springs like EIBACH or H&R. if you want to go down 1.5"~2.25", get lowering springs like TEIN S-TECH or PROGRESS, and add in either KYB GR2 or KYB AGX (better)... but keep in mind, the lower u go the sooner those shocks will fail. they tell you in their warranty that they are NOT recomended for lowering over 1.5"; given that, the AGX will last longer because they can be set stiffer to compensate for deeper lowering springs' spring rate. if you want it lower than 2.25" go straight to full coilovers or airbags. DO NOT buy adjustable springs since these are guaranteed to eat your shocks alive... full coilovers include lowering springs on an adjustable perch and matched short body shocks in one package where the shocks are made to handle the added spring rate and more compressed state of a lowered ride while still offering full travel. also the lower you go the harsher the ride will be, so keep that in mind as well.

[7gvr4]

hahahahah.

so what i was wrong, last i heard you didnt even have anything usefull to contribute buddy

so how bout untill you do you just shut your mouth

[es_fact]

so what i was wrong, last i heard you didnt even have anything usefull to contribute buddy

so how bout untill you do you just shut your mouth

hositlity!!!!! lol

yeah dude for a guy with 4 posts, i agree lol... stfu :)

[djhah]

wow makes mr want not to lower my g now

[OMEGA PHX]

You can lower it, there's nothing wrong with it,you just need to do it right the first time, and for something good and durable it isn't going to be cheap.

How much are you looking to lower the G?

[P'NOYcaL]

ok i didn't have time to answer you well the first time. the question you should be asking yourself is how low do you want to go? depending on the answer to this question, that will determine what kind of setup to get.

if you are only lowering mildly around .5"~1.5", just get lowering springs like EIBACH or H&R. if you want to go down 1.5"~2.25", get lowering springs like TEIN S-TECH or PROGRESS, and add in either KYB GR2 or KYB AGX (better)... but keep in mind, the lower u go the sooner those shocks will fail. they tell you in their warranty that they are NOT recomended for lowering over 1.5"; given that, the AGX will last longer because they can be set stiffer to compensate for deeper lowering springs' spring rate. if you want it lower than 2.25" go straight to full coilovers or airbags. DO NOT buy adjustable springs since these are guaranteed to eat your shocks alive... full coilovers include lowering springs on an adjustable perch and matched short body shocks in one package where the shocks are made to handle the added spring rate and more compressed state of a lowered ride while still offering full travel. also the lower you go the harsher the ride will be, so keep that in mind as well.

wow just what i needed! salamat!:040:

[P'NOYcaL]

You can lower it, there's nothing wrong with it,you just need to do it right the first time, and for something good and durable it isn't going to be cheap.

How much are you looking to lower the G?

Not looking for an expensive set and definitely not gonna risk going too cheap. This might be my next mod.:032:

[P'NOYcaL]

@Reelax: the last time check, i don't think Eibach makes springs for USDM 8gs? only for the legnum wagon V6 as far as i remember. And from what i've read in this forums using v6 springs on i4 won't sit as it suppose to. Same thing for H&R I only saw the ones from v6.

Which i guess about 1" front and 1" rear isn't that bad concerning my 8g is my daily driving car.

[Reelax]

so what i was wrong, last i heard you didnt even have anything usefull to contribute buddy

so how bout untill you do you just shut your mouth

nothing useful? look at he post above yours. concise and accurate.

maybe next time you should actually know what you are talking about before giving advice, because your bad advice might actually be taken. thankfully there are more knowledgeable members here to correct your ignorance.

hahahaha.

[E_Emerson88]

@Reelax: the last time check, i don't think Eibach makes springs for USDM 8gs? only for the legnum wagon V6 as far as i remember. And from what i've read in this forums using v6 springs on i4 won't sit as it suppose to. Same thing for H&R I only saw the ones from v6.

Which i guess about 1" front and 1" rear isn't that bad concerning my 8g is my daily driving car.

you can get them for 2000 - 05 eclipse. there the same. i think someone has some for sale on Club3G.com

[E_Emerson88]

there you go:

http://www.club3g.com/forum/automotive-sale-wanted/134892-fs-eibach-pro-kit.html

[Reelax]

@Reelax: the last time check, i don't think Eibach makes springs for USDM 8gs? only for the legnum wagon V6 as far as i remember. And from what i've read in this forums using v6 springs on i4 won't sit as it suppose to. Same thing for H&R I only saw the ones from v6.

Which i guess about 1" front and 1" rear isn't that bad concerning my 8g is my daily driving car.

EIBACH PRO KIT

1999-2003 V6 part# 6028.140 1.2F 1.0R

alternately, u can use 3G eclipse springs since the suspension is nearly identical:

2000-2004 V6 part# 6035.140 1.6F 1.4R

H&R

1999-2003 V6 part# 52919 1.4F 1.3R

yes since the i4 engine is lighter than the v6, the front will not drop as low as it would for the v6, but the springs will work. EIBACH PRO KIT springs are pretty much the closest ride to stock for lowering springs for our application.

[7gvr4]

nothing useful? look at he post above yours. concise and accurate.

maybe next time you should actually know what you are talking about before giving advice, because your bad advice might actually be taken. thankfully there are more knowledgeable members here to correct your ignorance.

hahahaha.

who are you even talking bout, the dude im talking about has had 4 posts in 5 years and none have been usefull

and i was going off personal experience, no one i know or know of has had struts wear out because they put lowering springs in the car, same as the retailers iv talked to

[Reelax]

wow i just noticed... look at the username for that member. that was me replying from my phone... it was logged into my testing account! oops!

[beam514]

LOL! I was wondering who the Reelax impostor was!

[Reelax]

who are you even talking bout, the dude im talking about has had 4 posts in 5 years and none have been usefull

and i was going off personal experience, no one i know or know of has had struts wear out because they put lowering springs in the car, same as the retailers iv talked to

do you or anyone you know have experience with USDM 8G's?

[7gvr4]

nope closest i've got is a mate with a legnum vr4