looking for a US wheel

[Pugme]

Hi guys new round here, right iv been searching around all evening and its now 11pm.

im looking for some wheels for my legnum, and i want to get something different, so im thinking of something american, im really feeling the whole vip look with crazy camber. firstly i found this car

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h187/P11gme/Galant3.jpg

this is running 11*20 rear 9*20 fronts, but i have no idea what the offset is :( the car is from indonesia so i presume its jdm spec.

next up came this one

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/9263/openrace020808527.jpg

this is defo a jdm vr4 running 17*9 with a 28mm offset

so im thinking of playing it safe and running 20*10's all round on about a 20mm offset, with some camber i should be able to get the wheels to tuck under the arches nicely. i was gonna run a staggered offset but that could mess up my 4wd, it can be done, but is a lot of work!

so im asking you guys for some help to maybe show me some crazy dished wheels that are really only available over there, budget wise, i never look at thecost of a wheel i look at what looks perfect then worry about costs :)

[unclepaulie]

ccw, also hey bro!

[Reelax]

i am not aware of any wheels that are US market only for aftermarket. i ordered mine from japan. also staggered offset (assuming same width and tire size) will not mess up your 4wd... however staggered width/overall diameter difference would. for instance, 20x9 +20 rear w/ 20x9 +30 front w/ 225/30r20 all around would be exactly the same diameter overall and would not affect your differentials.

also i hope u realize that 20x9 +28 is less aggressive than 20x10 +20; the latter sticks out 21mm more on the fender side with 4mm less clearance on the suspension side... that is the opposite of "playing it safe".

[unclepaulie]

i hav already explained this on CVR4,


sign up to ozvr4, read this thread http://ozvr4.com/forums/showthread.php?6044-Offsets-be-nice-or-be-banned

[RedGalant2k1]

20x10 +20mm will have a poke better than roller skates.

This is a picture of a 20x9.5 +37mm wheel:

On front and rear:
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e52/RedGalant2k1/DSCN0491.jpg

On front only, you can see how far it is out now. They was with only .5 degrees camber, and it only has maybe another .5" before it would be rubbing the coilover strut housing.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e52/RedGalant2k1/Picture045.jpg

A 20x10 +20mm will stick out almost another full inch! You'd have to be running at least 2-3 degrees camber in the front. I don't believe even the indonesian Galants are running that.

[unclepaulie]

this would be the ideal setup:

F: 20x9.5+30
R: 20x9.5+15


10's will need major guard work, no matter the offset

[RedGalant2k1]

this would be the ideal setup:

F: 20x9.5+30
R: 20x9.5+15


10's will need major guard work, no matter the offset

Will require at least 1.5 - 2.5 degrees camber in front, and 3 - 4 degrees camber in rear. Depending on tire size, and amount of lowering. 10s could be run in the rear 20x10 +25. I would also suggest if that is the 'ideal offset, that all four wheels be purchased in the 20x9.5 +30 specification, then run a 15mm spacer in the rear. That will let the owner still rotate tires should they not want to spend an arm and a leg on tires.

[unclepaulie]

yeah, obviously a lot of camber is needed, but thats the VIP style/price to pay for wide wheels. spacer idea could be good, but spacers are illegal in OZ. and probs illegal in the UK too


20x11's like he originally planed are/will be nuts and require a heap of work

[Pugme]

lol wassup paulie!! yes yes im working my way round the world, ill get to oz soon :p

original plan was and still sort of is 11's rear 9's front, but its easier to state 20*10.

over in the uk we can do pretty much anything we want as long as tyre tread is under the arch, hell i run a 35mm spacer on my peugeot that converts from 4 to 5 stud!!

im just struggling to find a set of wheels with crazy dish that jump out at me and say "this is the wheel"

right ok i think i want 9*20 et 25-30 up front so withstretch and some camber ill get em under the arch.

and rear lets go for 11*20 et 30 with more camber than the front they will go under :)

question is, what wheel!!!!!!

[unclepaulie]

btw 20x11+30 wont fit, itll hit the suspension, 20x11+17 will just clear it.



custom rims are what your need

CCW
rotiform
HRE
iForged
even Work
or SSR

[Reelax]

lol wassup paulie!! yes yes im working my way round the world, ill get to oz soon :p

original plan was and still sort of is 11's rear 9's front, but its easier to state 20*10.

over in the uk we can do pretty much anything we want as long as tyre tread is under the arch, hell i run a 35mm spacer on my peugeot that converts from 4 to 5 stud!!

im just struggling to find a set of wheels with crazy dish that jump out at me and say "this is the wheel"

right ok i think i want 9*20 et 25-30 up front so withstretch and some camber ill get em under the arch.

and rear lets go for 11*20 et 30 with more camber than the front they will go under :)

question is, what wheel!!!!!!

do you understand how offset works?

[jubeiaire]

color me crazy....yes color me more, i like it...ooo use the blue use the blue.....ummmm....ok so my ideah is as such...Find a VIP style Galant with crazy size wheels and then find out who the owner is. figure out how to contact him and ask him exactly what size/offset/width he used and all mods that were needed to create the look you want to recreate. then spend lots of money drive at 15 mph and smile the whole way.

[jubeiaire]

Or go to a shop with a pic of the VIP style and a pic of the rims you wanna use. say to the shop owner "I want this look with these wheels" hand over your car keys and a blank check. come back in 3 weeks and drive off.

[RedGalant2k1]

lol wassup paulie!! yes yes im working my way round the world, ill get to oz soon :p

original plan was and still sort of is 11's rear 9's front, but its easier to state 20*10.

over in the uk we can do pretty much anything we want as long as tyre tread is under the arch, hell i run a 35mm spacer on my peugeot that converts from 4 to 5 stud!!

im just struggling to find a set of wheels with crazy dish that jump out at me and say "this is the wheel"

right ok i think i want 9*20 et 25-30 up front so withstretch and some camber ill get em under the arch.

and rear lets go for 11*20 et 30 with more camber than the front they will go under :)

question is, what wheel!!!!!!

Wheel width are based on this picture:

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e52/RedGalant2k1/width-1.jpg

"Actual Width" should be 'measured width'. So a 20x9 (measured width), is actually a 21x10. "Overall Width" is the actual wheel width. The measured width is from 'bead to bead', where the tire mounts to. The rim lip/flange is .5" thick around the entire wheel. This means if you are wanting a 20x11, you are actually getting a 21x12.

So, as I've experienced a 20x10 +25 (measured width) BARELY fits, and I was running 235s. You could stretch a 225 over a 20x10 fairly easily, and this would almost be necessary if you wanted to have it clear the rear fender lips, even modified. As for a 20x11 +30 (measured width)...no chance without widening the rear fenders and using a spacer, probably a 25mm spacer at that.

If you want to be aggressive, you should run this:

20x9 +25 (with 1-1.5 degrees camber)
20x10 +20 (with 3-4 degrees camber)

Problem in this is that in a 20" wheel you will be hard pressed to find decent tire sizes for front and rear. But, that may not matter much as a 225/30R20 would stretch well on both front and rear (especially rear). If you wanted to run a wider tire in rear (235/30R20), it will be hard to match front and rear.

If you need any help, I can help, just let me know. Good luck either way!

[Pugme]

los yes i know what offset is :)if you look at my newbie thread you will see i have fitted alloy wheels before! lol

i tried to contact the owner of the indonesian car with no luck im afraid, i have already spoke to a custom wheel company in the uk and i do not think there prices are too bad to have any wheel i want made in any size and offset, just need to find a wheel design i like.

i know what i want to do is crazy, but its always nice to have a challenge in life :D

i just cant decid what wheel i want! i had the wheels off today to investigate the suspension setup, yes things are in the way, but yes i do belive they can be altered etc

i have till march to get these on, so still have plenty of time.

[Reelax]

what is your budget?

[Pugme]

EUREAKAAAAAAAA!!

Iv found the wheels i want! unfortunately they will cost twice as much as the value of my car! :( and although i could afford to buy them i quite simply cannot justify spending that sort of amount on a set of wheel when the car only cost 2.5K to buy

but....

Iv found a set on ebay, not quite the sizes i was after but should only cost $3000 dollars to get them over here. so here is the important numbers!!

they are 19*9.5 ET17 for the rear and 19*8.5 ET20 for the front, so people, what do ya reckon? will they fit!!

[RedGalant2k1]

EUREAKAAAAAAAA!!

Iv found the wheels i want! unfortunately they will cost twice as much as the value of my car! :( and although i could afford to buy them i quite simply cannot justify spending that sort of amount on a set of wheel when the car only cost 2.5K to buy

but....

Iv found a set on ebay, not quite the sizes i was after but should only cost $3000 dollars to get them over here. so here is the important numbers!!

they are 19*9.5 ET17 for the rear and 19*8.5 ET20 for the front, so people, what do ya reckon? will they fit!!

The front no problems, will need to run between .5 to 1.00 degrees camber. And I'd suggest either a 225/35R19 or 215/35R19. Since the front wheels aren't wider than 8.5" you won't have super stretch (mild stretch only), so it will depend on what tire brand you get, and if you want more stretch or not.

The rear is a little low, but should be easily workable. Below is a picture of a 19x10 +25 wrapped with a 235/35R19 BFG KDW2.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e52/RedGalant2k1/TG2k2/Picture836.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e52/RedGalant2k1/TG2k2/Picture837.jpg

The 19x9.5 +17s will be out just a touch more. But running 225/35R19s and about 3 degrees camber it should be perfect in the rear. Just make sure you roll those fenders in the rear.

This picture is of a 19x9.5 +40 with 2.5 degrees camber wrapped with a 235/35R19 BFG KDW2.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e52/RedGalant2k1/Picture333.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e52/RedGalant2k1/Picture332.jpg

[Pugme]

sweet,

its such a shame i cant justify spending out 4-5 grand (UK Pounds) because 20's would look good, but i guess i will have to settle on the 19's! beggars cant be choosers and all that! lol

well iv sent the guy a message thru ebay, lets see what he comes back with :)

ill presume the pic you have put up is a USDM Galant? from what i know your suspension is completely different, but should be ok! my other problem is i have to match my rolling radius's within 1-2% of each other because of my 4wd!!

[Reelax]

since you are AWD, have you considered doing a offset/face stagger rather than a width stagger? w/ a offset/face stagger, you will have exactly the same width wheel and tire front to back (for same rolling circumference) but you can have more brake clearance in the front and more lip in the rear and it would appear staggered.

[RedGalant2k1]

since you are AWD, have you considered doing a offset/face stagger rather than a width stagger? w/ a offset/face stagger, you will have exactly the same width wheel and tire front to back (for same rolling circumference) but you can have more brake clearance in the front and more lip in the rear and it would appear staggered.

The different wheel widths don't affect the overall rolling diameter of the tires. He can run a 19x9.5 with a 225/35R19 and a 19x8.5 with a 225/35R19. It will change the section width some (about .5"). But as far as the rolling diameter (25.20"), that won't change. The steel belt package, especially considering a higher performance tire, won't change except very very minimally.

But I know you also mean you can run a 19x9 with 225/35R19s with a High disk, and the rear would be low disk. Giving the rear more of a lip, but the offset is the same.