LEDs in gauge cluster.

[98mgalant]

The Galant Center nor Myself will be held responsible for the inguiry to you or damage to your car. This is for informational use only. Try at your own risk.


1. Get yourself five 194 SMD LEDs and three 74 SMD LEDs.

2. There are two screws at the top of the outer cover of the cluster. Remove these and gently pull that part out.

3.Now you will see four screws around the outside of the cluster. Take them out (be careful not to drop them) grab the cluster with one hand on each side. Pull gently while wiggling it a little. Be very careful. It should pull out pretty easily.

4.You will now have access to the back of the cluster where you will find the light sockets. The ones marked Blue are the ones that light the gauges. Remove the old bulbs and replace with SMD LEDs.

LED light have a positive and negative so if you have one that does not work try flipping it.

If you buy all the right size LED lights it is that simple.

Here are a few tips.

Do not get these.
http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac298/98mgalant/file/blue_led_t10_single.jpg
get these.
http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac298/98mgalant/file/ezbl4114.jpg

I used the 194s in place of the 74s all you have to do is put the bulb in the 74 casing.

The tape is to push the prongs out a little further and help them to get good contact to the socket.

http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac298/98mgalant/DSC_5017.jpg

It also helps to tun them to the ends.

http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac298/98mgalant/DSC_5009.jpg

To do this you will need to remove the tack and speedo. This will also allow you to see if they are all working. It will not fit though the hole. You will have to hold the back of the socket while pushing the bulb in. If you do not hold it firm you will break the tabs on the socket. Ignore the tin foil.

http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac298/98mgalant/DSC_5013.jpg

If you do remove the speedo and tack it is a good idea to check that they work before putting everything back together. If not check the screws that hold them in if they are not in good they will not work but do not strip them out.

when you have all your lights in and see that everything is working properly put everything back together in the opposite of removal. BE CAREFULL.

Finished Product

Compared to stock
http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac298/98mgalant/DSC_5128.jpg

http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac298/98mgalant/DSC_5160.jpg

194 SMD LEDs also work great for shifter

http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac298/98mgalant/DSC_5123.jpg

Parking lights

http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac298/98mgalant/DSC_5093-1.jpg

License plate light

http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac298/98mgalant/DSC_5091.jpg

Mods if this has already been done feel free to delete

[evil-G-nius]

I been looking into doin something like this.....I just need to get another stock cluster. I have reverse indiglos...but this looks so much better. Why did you take the front off instead of putting them in the back? What am I missing there?

*edit* its late...I missed the part where they dont fit! LOL, there isnt a type like those that do fit? I assume those are brighter than the ones you said dont get

[98mgalant]

They do make smaller ones that will fit in the hole for the 74 sockets but I thought that these would be brighter so I retrofitted them. The ones that I said not to get only direct the light in one direction causing some areas to be brighter than others. Smd LEDs shine 360 degrees. I had the other kind and they are really bad.

[raks_22]

i like it, where i can get that led?

[98mgalant]

I got them on eBay the seller doesn't have any listed now but you can look at ledlights.com and search on google.

[mko]

very nice. i like it

[evil-G-nius]

yeah it looks sexy. Do they make em in colors? I was thinkin blue for me....I am gonna look for the smaller ones myself....I have taken guages off before and putting em back didnt go too well! LOL my gas guage no longer works!

[98mgalant]

ya they make them in a lot of colors. I have amber ones in my parking lights. I know they have make blue green red and amber. have you checked the screws in the back of the gas gauge. The first time when I put the crappy leds in my speedo quite working so I messed with the screws in the back and that fixed it.You should take the screws out make sure they are clean and clean around the hole on the back were they get connection. Mine were not tight enough. but they are easy to strip.

[mko]

Do the same with the HVAC controls. That panel is PITA to reach behind and get the bulbs out

[RedGalant2k1]

Looks great!

[evil-G-nius]

Do the same with the HVAC controls. That panel is PITA to reach behind and get the bulbs out

Just unscrew it and pull em out. It aint that bad

Yo 98....these should work the same but fit into the sockets right? http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-bin/store/index.cgi?action=DispPage&Page2Disp=%2Fspecs%2FWLED-xHP5.htm#photos

and these 74's

http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-bin/store/index.cgi?action=DispPage&Page2Disp=%2Fspecs%2F74-xHP3.html#photos

That way I wouldnt have to take the guages off

[98mgalant]

I need to get some for the hvac, ash tray, and cigarette lighter. and ya the hvac is a pain to get to. even if you unscrew it, it wont come out very far.

Thanks for all the compliments.

[mrjaydeeone]

looks great. nice and bright

[98mgalant]

Just unscrew it and pull em out. It aint that bad

Yo 98....these should work the same but fit into the sockets right? http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-bin/store/index.cgi?action=DispPage&Page2Disp=%2Fspecs%2FWLED-xHP5.htm#photos

and these 74's

http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-bin/store/index.cgi?action=DispPage&Page2Disp=%2Fspecs%2F74-xHP3.html#photos

That way I wouldnt have to take the guages off

ya they should. If you get them and they dont work at first dont freak out at my trouble shooting part about tape and turning the prongs, but as far as the size ya they should fit.

EDIT: those are a little pricey I would check eBay first.
EDIT2: didnt find any cheeper on ebay.

[mko]

you got a link for yours? the small and big leds the go in the back of the cluster

[98mgalant]

The seller was newcomdigi_eu on ebay but it was a promo offer so idk if they have any left.

[evil-G-nius]

how many bulbs total are needed? How many 74's and 194/168's?

[98mgalant]

I think that you will need five 194s and three 74s but don't go buying any until I double check. I'll let you know for sure later.

[evil-G-nius]

Cool! Thanx

[98mgalant]

I went and looked it's three 74 and four 194. If your going to get them for the ash tray hvac and other things you will need eight more 194s and four more 74s.

[evil-G-nius]

I think I will eventually get the others. But I am looking for another guage cluster then I am gonna do the do. But I was looking at switching the dome light, the light in the trunk (yes damn it!) the license plate bulbs and my city lights in my world specs

[mko]

found these

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/9-LED-Car-Light-Bulb-Lamp-158-Super-194-T10-168-SMD-W22-/170512067820?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27b34facec

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/5x-T5-74-73-SMD-3-Chip-5050-White-Wedge-LED-Bulb-Light-/320614678040?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4aa61fbe18

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1x-T10-194-168-W5W-5-SMD-LED-White-Lamp-Bulb-12V-/150506120216?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item230add2418

are these gonna work?

[98mgalant]

I think the ones in the first link will be to long. They will hit the back of the gauges

the second ones will only direct light in one direction and cause hot spots.

Third link will work.
Im on my iPod right now but in a little I will find some and post links.

Evil-G you suck I don't have a trunk light.lol

[kolio]

i have a trunk light lol

i did this like 2 years ago. but i had dark spots due to weak leds and they were cheap and died. so now that i work i'm getting some good high quality ones.

[evil-G-nius]

Evil-G you suck I don't have a trunk light.lol

how the hell don't you have a trunk light?

[mko]

all 7g s have a trunk light

[98mgalant]

Well it has a plug that is probably for the trunk light but its not there. I know that it should but I guess the previous owner took it out which makes no sence.

[Malcriaoxx]

Maybe he unplugged everything in order the switch from inside the car wont open the trunk unless with the key.Maybe am wrong

[kolio]

Maybe he unplugged everything in order the switch from inside the car wont open the trunk unless with the key.Maybe am wrong

that has nothing to do with the trunk light.


next time i'm at the yard i can grab one for you (free) if you want it

[98mgalant]

That would be great. Just let me know and I can pay you shipping or what ever.

[Predat-R]

now i also have the indiglo as evil mentioned can these work together or not

[98mgalant]

found these

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/9-LED-Car-Light-Bulb-Lamp-158-Super-194-T10-168-SMD-W22-/170512067820?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27b34facec

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/5x-T5-74-73-SMD-3-Chip-5050-White-Wedge-LED-Bulb-Light-/320614678040?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4aa61fbe18

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1x-T10-194-168-W5W-5-SMD-LED-White-Lamp-Bulb-12V-/150506120216?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item230add2418

are these gonna work?

I ended up ordering the ones from the third link and they are a different color than the others that I bought but I used them in the ac/heat controls and cigaret lighter so it's not that big of a deal for me but you would not want different colors in the gauge cluster.

Predat-R I really have no clue. I've never had indiglo so I don't even know what they are made of. Are the numbers transparent?

[Predat-R]

I ended up ordering the ones from the third link and they are a different color than the others that I bought but I used them in the ac/heat controls and cigaret lighter so it's not that big of a deal for me but you would not want different colors in the gauge cluster.

Predat-R I really have no clue. I've never had indiglo so I don't even know what they are made of. Are the numbers transparent?

yes they are

[Predat-R]

i just ordered the bulbs through the link posted by Evil as soon as they get in i will update with pics

[Predat-R]

leds came in and they clear the back without removing the needles no problems putting them in, i got them in amber
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/Predat-r/leds1.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q161/Predat-r/leds2.jpg

[mko]

I waited a month for mine

[98mgalant]

I want to see some install pics.

[Predat-R]

i already put them in the cluster i got from mrg, im at the shop tommorow should be able to test them, i got these through the link evil posted only took 4 bussiness day

[BronxBlur23]

will this work in the 8g?

[finald8ta]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/10x-T10-194-White-Side-Wedge-Car-Light-LED-Bulb-Lamp-1-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2a08a0b1b9QQitemZ18053 3375417QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccesso ries

i been buying these u get 10 and they work great i been using them for yrs anf i have them in my cluster only thing is it has a bluish tint due to the cluster

[DOHCstunr]

you can also do the ignition ring and the glove box of course. I put a green 3 smt 74 in the igntion ring. Looks sweet. I bought 2 pairs of the green 74's and put two greens in for the turn signal indicators, and had one spare. Sooner or later I might get some red ones for the CEL, brake light, door ajar, and a pair of amber ones for the ABS light and the low fuel. But seems like a waste of dough. I'll probably get to that down the road when I'm bored and don't have enough cash for anything major.

[evil-G-nius]

Hmm....blue for the ignition ring would look bad ass

[Fresh_617]

you can also do the ignition ring and the glove box of course. I put a green 3 smt 74 in the igntion ring. Looks sweet. I bought 2 pairs of the green 74's and put two greens in for the turn signal indicators, and had one spare. Sooner or later I might get some red ones for the CEL, brake light, door ajar, and a pair of amber ones for the ABS light and the low fuel. But seems like a waste of dough. I'll probably get to that down the road when I'm bored and don't have enough cash for anything major.


Do you have any pics of that?

[98mgalant]

I don't know anything about 8g.

[Joker96]

i think i broke the gas thing. i think its not measuring correctly anymore i just removed it and when put back now says a diff thing

[Da_Prodigy]

Just top off gas tank and insert the the needle on the Full line just dont press it down too much or it won't move.

[Joker96]

does the needle have a max and minimum? i mean so it wont go all the way around? i dont know f u understand what i mean

[Da_Prodigy]

What I'm saying take your car to the gas station fill it completely with gas, once it's completely filled, take off the needle and just re-insert the needle at the full line. Just make sure not to press down all thr way because if you press the needle all the waydown it sometimes gets stuck. There is a max and minimum mark but if you don't align the needle right in the beginning it's obviously going to be off.

[Joker96]

got it, thanks

[raks_22]

can i use t10 ones?

[98mgalant]

I'd say stick with the 94 and 74s but you should try and buy then from the same place and make sure to get the same colors.

[raks_22]

gonna try it, i have another cluster in the mechanic place

[raks_22]

no?

[98mgalant]

Did it not work?

[raks_22]

i dont know, im asking for the T10 SMD leds.

[98mgalant]

The ones that will work are the 94 and 74 LEDs. I don't know about those.

[raks_22]

i dont know where to buy them :S ebay isnt an option to me, haha gonna be more expensive the shipping than the leds haha

[Galanttuner10]

nice. im going to do this on my new GS cluster. on a side note can we make the thing go back to 000000 as if i could id like to do that.

[neoechun]

will this type of smd works?
http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/enkmall/EK-T5-SMD1W-2.jpg

[98mgalant]

Not as well as the ones that have three of the LEDs on them. but just as far as them fitting and lighting up ya.

[dasd]

Can we see more before and after pics of the LED upgrades you've done? I'm thinking about doing the blue on the cluster and ignition ring (that could change...) but at this point I'm more concerned about getting the right amount in the right size. Where's the best source for both the internal (cluster/ door/ HVAC...) and the running/ brake LED lights? If I'm going to do it, I might as well do it all! One site had them for $5.95 US each, so if anyone has found a site that has them for less then speak up.


Thanks!

[98mgalant]

I get mine off eBay. I've had pretty good luck with eBay. As for the amounts and sizes for the cluster it's already in an earlier post. If your a 7g then look for the bulb list for all the bulb sizes. I can try to get some updated pics but the only before and after pics are the ones that are already in this thread. I now have 32 smd panels in both dome lights (see sig)and the trunk.

[raks_22]

98mgalant likes leds :p

[98mgalant]

I sure do man but I'm no expert.lol I actualy had a better idea for the guage cluster LEDs. The interior LEDs that I bought come with different hook ups and they will work in the gauges. It would only take 2 in sure and it'd be supper simple. I'll post a link for them latter.

[dasd]

I sure do man but I'm no expert.lol I actualy had a better idea for the guage cluster LEDs. The interior LEDs that I bought come with different hook ups and they will work in the gauges. It would only take 2 in sure and it'd be supper simple. I'll post a link for them latter.
98m,


Thanks dude! I'll be looking for the info you provide. I did see the other posts and there is a lot of info there with differing opinions. How much were they on e-bay?

[98mgalant]

I think I got mine for around $10-$15 for all the gauge cluster LEDs. You just have to look for them on eBay. Prices are always different I found mine on sale.

[98mgalant]

Here's the link for the ones I used for the interior. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Light-Lamp-Panel-36-SMD-LED-T10-Dome-Bulb-BA15S-Adapter-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem33674c7271QQitemZ22077 6395377QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccesso ries#ht_3718wt_948

I think they are bright enough that if you bought 2 they would light up the gauge cluster. One for each side. Now I don't know for sure but if it did work that would be cheaper. It would require you to take the gauges out completely inorder to mount them inside.

[neoechun]

i just trim the T10 socket,and it fits the T6.5 casing..
http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr56/neoechuns4/IMG_20110512_140424.jpg
my E55 meter a bit difference from yours,it needs 2 xT10 and 5 x T6.5 to light up whole meter instrument.
http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr56/neoechuns4/IMG_20110514_091930.jpg

[98mgalant]

I never even thought about trimming them. That would have made more sence.lol nice work.


Post pics of completed product.

[neoechun]

I never even thought about trimming them. That would have made more sence.lol nice work.


Post pics of completed product.
i still need 3pcs t10 to complete the meter instrument,:smile:
right now i only have 4pcs t10 to the meter.
i just change T10 smd to the shifter ,do you have any idea how to change the a/t mode button bulb ?
http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr56/neoechuns4/IMG_20110516_194617.jpg

[98mgalant]

What button is that? I may not have it. Have you tried the gauges with the four lights in? They are pretty bright so you may be able to get away with it.

[neoechun]

What button is that? I may not have it. Have you tried the gauges with the four lights in? They are pretty bright so you may be able to get away with it.
the "A/T mode" on the shifter,i manage to take it out today,but the problem is ,the bulb is too small,where to find smd that small like it?
perhaps T3, T4.2 or T4.7? :022:
i just order extra T10 5 smd from ebay,will post the picture once i complete.:orangebiggrin:
http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr56/neoechuns4/2011-05-17104920.jpg
http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr56/neoechuns4/2011-05-17105041.jpg
http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr56/neoechuns4/2011-05-17105222.jpg
http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr56/neoechuns4/2011-05-17105654.jpg

[raks_22]

what is that boton for?

[98mgalant]

What he said^^^

I have never seen that, apperantly we donthave it on usdm Galants. But someone said that you can get this bulbs at radio shack. Not led though and I've never seen them. The only way that I know of would be to try and make one.

[neoechun]

What he said^^^

I have never seen that, apperantly we donthave it on usdm Galants. But someone said that you can get this bulbs at radio shack. Not led though and I've never seen them. The only way that I know of would be to try and make one.
found the smd,is T3.:023:
http://cgi.ebay.com/3BSpec-T3-LED-Bulb-1-SMD-White-Cluster-Gauge-x1-/170591645240?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27b80dee38

[98mgalant]

Dude that's bad ass. You have earned the title of my favorite noob.lol Although I don't have any money to buy these I will have them eventually. :)

Anyway what's that button do?

[neoechun]

Dude that's bad ass. You have earned the title of my favorite noob.lol Although I don't have any money to buy these I will have them eventually. :)

Anyway what's that button do?

what is that boton for?
i just lazy to typing,here's the picture that explain the button..:025:
someone said is useful to prevent skidding on snow
http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr56/neoechuns4/2011-05-18101250.jpg

[neoechun]

5 pcs 5smd on the two large gauge,but the lights 200km-220km display on gauge display is very dim.. :no:
WPpXY5DmuUo

[raks_22]

hoo, nice, i never have seen a galant whit that boton

[98mgalant]

After looking at my cluster and yours it looks like I have a light where you are geting the dark spot and you dont. You could conect a light to the working light with some wire and glue it into place or something. And ya I have never seen that button in my life.lol

[Galanttuner10]

that button is actually really cool, being able to start in second in the snow and ice would have been awesome while auto.

i may seem like a noob but what LEDs do i need after reading all these different types. i will only be doing the gauge cluster so only the LEDs for that are what i need clarified

[98mgalant]

Alright noob.lol you need 3 72 size LEDs and 4 194s. Make sure to get SMD LEDs with multiple light diodes on them because the others cause really bad hot spots. My advice to you and anyone else doing this is to use 8 194s and modify them like on the privious page. When you get different sizes you take a chance on the color being slightly different. I bought some for my hvac, lighter and other things that were supposed to be the same color and they were totally different. But you have to go in from the front if you use all 194s. If you need any more info let me know.

[Galanttuner10]

these?

http://cgi.ebay.com/10-Bulbs-White-194-168-T10-SMD-SMT-5-LED-Car-Light-12v-/190385370898?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c53da3712

[98mgalant]

Yep. But FYI white is the color I have. Super white is alittle more white but I like the white myself.

[Galanttuner10]

i like the normal white. i will be buying those and an aluminum overlay for the GS clutster like this weekend and will come back with resualts just non working LEDs yet lol

[98mgalant]

Alright man keep us updated.

[neoechun]

just dismantle Digital Climate Control,and is need 2pcs T4.2 for the button and 2pcs T4.7 for the monitor :FIREdevil:
http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr56/neoechuns4/a4de78e3.jpg
http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr56/neoechuns4/55d9f6e2.jpg

[master_visionary]

Did this with sharpies

Note on resetting the needles figured this through trial and error

Note where all you needles idle at my stepper motors powered off the pin angles below zero
For the tach if you know your car you know your idle
For the speedo put the car in gear let it roll set at or a tad above zero
Gas just remember where it was.
Honestly my temps still off ... I hope starts at hot

PS don't crash in the speedo step

[98mgalant]

What did you do with a sharpie? There arnt any pics.lol

[rockingout92]

Finished my lights today:
http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/8199/imag0054hm.jpg

[kolio]

i never had any problem with my needles

[master_visionary]

What did you do with a sharpie? There arnt any pics.lol

Its on my mods list I do all my internet from a phone so .. Sharpie mod here goes .. pull it all apart as explained, then color the back of the gauges with desired colors for desired places I did blue lines and light blue numbers, for the needle just thoroughly copperhead clear center circle underneath. I just grabbed another set of faces. If you use clear Scotch tape to create another layer of color its clearer .. ... .. also I want to post an infinity interior amp tutorial. I may need to type it up an let a vet host it

Here ahttp://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd399/master_visionary/IMG_20110901_225138-1.jpgre my gauges the needles are brighter in person.

[master_visionary]

http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd399/master_visionary/IMG_20110905_162238.jpg

[Ward Thaitz]

I need help. My panel gauge doesnt work? Panel gauge is repairable or not?
Thank you.

[daman2fear]

chances are it might not be getting power, or bad ground, does anything work or nothing at all?

[RobertHuffman60]

Thanks for this post master_visionary! The content is very valuable.