fastest all motor L4 8th [Archive]

escoson

03-24-2003, 04:15 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rallifan)</div><div class='quotemain'>ROFL...I want to throw my vote to AK1, since he's the only 4 banger I've seen with turbo and nitrous. Together they make a killing combination.</div>

i gotta agree, i dont know ak1 but ive heard alot about his car. i bet its great to be able to smoke some of those v6 and v8's with a i4 on steriods https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif

Faction

03-24-2003, 04:16 PM

wake up Rallistan....all motor meaning naturally aspirated, am i right? :? :roll:

Prophet

03-24-2003, 04:18 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rallifan)</div><div class='quotemain'>ROFL...I want to throw my vote to AK1, since he's the only 4 banger I've seen with turbo and nitrous. Together they make a killing combination.</div>
Ralli my friend he is asking all motor. No force induction of any kind. So it is still me. 8)

leadfoot

03-24-2003, 04:23 PM

all motor galant. :wink:

Mante

03-24-2003, 04:53 PM

All motor I4 ...Probrably Mine... Oh yea nice name..."leadfoot" I get called that all the time lol

Fishboy55

03-24-2003, 04:58 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mante)</div><div class='quotemain'>All motor I4 ...Probrably Mine... Â*Oh yea nice name..."leadfoot" Â*I get called that all the time Â*lol</div>
Yea, usually from me, when I'm following you. https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif

Auto-9

03-24-2003, 07:34 PM

Stop slamming me!! https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif I thought he meant all motor as in it's powered by a gasoline engine... :wink: I am Rallifan, I am always right! :laughing:

Prophet

03-25-2003, 12:12 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rallifan)</div><div class='quotemain'>Stop slamming me!! https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif I thought he meant all motor as in it's powered by a gasoline engine... Â*:wink: I am Rallifan, I am always right! :laughing:</div>

Suuurrrrrreeeeee Rallifan. Whatever you say. :thumbsup:

NRG

03-25-2003, 02:44 AM

I think mine is actually because I have this nice shinning little CARB sticker on my CAI, and oh boy does that make it FAST!!!!!! And plus it says INJEN on it........... https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif

Prophet

03-25-2003, 03:11 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(NRG)</div><div class='quotemain'>I think mine is actually because I have this nice shinning little CARB sticker on my CAI, and oh boy does that make it FAST!!!!!! Â*And plus it says INJEN on it........... https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif</div>

Got you beat. I have the CARB sticker, Injen, and the little DSM on the MAS. 8)

Auto-9

03-25-2003, 08:10 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Outlawzcc)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(NRG)</div><div class='quotemain'>I think mine is actually because I have this nice shinning little CARB sticker on my CAI, and oh boy does that make it FAST!!!!!! Â*And plus it says INJEN on it........... https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif</div>

Got you beat. I have the CARB sticker, Injen, and the little DSM on the MAS. 8)</div>

Save it. I have a VR-4 badge on my trunk. :twisted:

Lazarus

03-25-2003, 11:20 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mante)</div><div class='quotemain'>All motor I4 ...Probrably Mine... </div>

http://h10013.racknine.com/~tidewaterracing.com/forums/images/smilies/chairshot.gif

You've been flagged and you know why. Your no longer an I4

Prophet

03-25-2003, 02:05 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rallifan)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Outlawzcc)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(NRG)</div><div class='quotemain'>I think mine is actually because I have this nice shinning little CARB sticker on my CAI, and oh boy does that make it FAST!!!!!! Â*And plus it says INJEN on it........... https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif</div>

Got you beat. I have the CARB sticker, Injen, and the little DSM on the MAS. 8)</div>

Save it. I have a VR-4 badge on my trunk. :twisted:</div>

Damn a VR-4 Badge. You got me. I am no longer the fastest I4. So how much HP did you gain? :wink:

Auto-9

03-25-2003, 03:12 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Outlawzcc)</div><div class='quotemain'>Damn a VR-4 Badge. Â*You got me. Â*I am no longer the fastest I4. Â*So how much HP did you gain? :wink:</div>
Surely at least 130...I'm now 276 hp.

HeadAche

03-26-2003, 10:04 PM

I think im pretty fast..

Auto-9

03-27-2003, 11:20 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ewgiii)</div><div class='quotemain'>No, you are are losers. Â*I am the fastest.
http://images.cardomain.com/member_img_a/312000-312999/312284_21_full.jpg
mwahhahaahahahaa!!!! 5,000 horses!</div>
DAMN! Owned by Ewgiii https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif

Prophet

03-28-2003, 12:21 AM

Damn I got to get one of those. :shock:

damn-no-$$$

03-28-2003, 07:36 AM

hahah, how sad. nobody taking his question serisously https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif

Mante

03-28-2003, 07:58 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Lazarus)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mante)</div><div class='quotemain'>All motor I4 ...Probrably Mine... </div>

http://h10013.racknine.com/~tidewaterracing.com/forums/images/smilies/chairshot.gif

You've been flagged and you know why. Your no longer an I4</div>

Well how about this..4banger in spirits.

Shane: yourI4 is sickningly (if thats a word) fast but you got that lil button https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif

Prophet

03-28-2003, 11:30 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(damn-no-$$$)</div><div class='quotemain'>hahah, how sad. nobody taking his question serisously Â*:lol:</div>

Okay, Okay. IMO I think TOC has the fastestall motor I think. If I remeber right and correct me if I am wrong. He has cam gears, Jet chip, CAI and a few other mods I think. At least he used too.

HeadAche

03-28-2003, 05:34 PM

All motor I4 ...Probrably Mine...

http://h10013.racknine.com/~tidewaterracing.com/forums/images/smilies/chairshot.gif

You've been flagged and you know why. Your no longer an I4

Well how about this..4banger in spirits.

Shane: yourI4 is sickningly (if thats a word) fast but you got that lil button https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif

Bro she's fast, but i dont have the button anymore.. If you talk to LAZ he will tell you, I GOT BOOST..

Mante

04-01-2003, 07:07 PM

oh yea..in that case shes definitly not all motor hehe Oh yea my bov, fmic and everything came in..just waiting for the SOB to come do the work....

Lazarus

04-01-2003, 07:22 PM

Bro she's fast, but i dont have the button anymore.. If you talk to LAZ he will tell you, I GOT BOOST..

YEAH YEAH I'll see you out in the desert.....prepare to have your ass handed to you.....lol

Mante

04-01-2003, 07:31 PM

Im pretty sure you both will be behind me hehehehe

ewgiii

04-01-2003, 09:13 PM

i still say i'm the fastest...

HeadAche

04-01-2003, 11:24 PM

Bro she's fast, but i dont have the button anymore.. If you talk to LAZ he will tell you, I GOT BOOST..

YEAH YEAH I'll see you out in the desert.....prepare to have your ass handed to you.....lol

You and Mante, can battle it out for second, when i cross the line 1st... Ohh yeah by the way tell me if my hazards work 2, i never know..lol :twisted:

Auto-9

04-02-2003, 01:00 AM

I'm TGC's fastest inline 3...that's all that matters.

Lazarus

04-02-2003, 03:24 AM

Hey B I dunno Shane is putting down Crazy numbers, you may or may not have to do alot with the twins to get that, I will get there slowly but surely.

Fishboy55

04-02-2003, 06:19 AM

B, if you can fix that problem you have with your R/T, I think the twins might give Shane a run for his money. https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif

CJ, as far as your car, everytime we've gone to the track all I've seen are your TV's. :laughing: If you don't get a base how will you know if you're faster? :wink:

HeadAche

04-02-2003, 09:01 AM

Man if you can the twins fixed, i'll definately want to take you to the track... Cj, i know his car is fast, he just needs to decide on what to do next, get a basline man, i wanna see you at the track in a like 5months..lol..

Lazarus

04-02-2003, 10:09 AM

OK we can see who is who by the end of the summer.

CHip. I took the Tvs out a while back. I have given up all that stuff long time ago. Arlo has my tv now.

smokinLV

04-02-2003, 04:00 PM

i think mine because i have nitrous in my oil. lmao

Mante

04-02-2003, 06:30 PM

HeadAche

04-02-2003, 09:26 PM

yea yea yea so what my r/t is like 2 minutes..so what lol I've always been a roadcourse driver..that st8 stuff is for the birds..green...floor it...at the end stop..give me a turn at LEAST one

Shane: yea I know your up there in # to the ground, its goign to be a great summer https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif Im waiting on the turbo upgrades https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif

Man the way i see it out here the dirty, things on my end are going to BLOW UP, not literally though, :crossing fingers: lol...Im still doing some minor tunning on my new turbo set-up, with help from CJ and my crew out here, cant wait to see when your done.. I may have to start callin you DOUBLE TROUBLE.. https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif

Mante

04-03-2003, 05:35 PM

Glad to see you admitting your out of the all motor category, currently Im in the no motor category with lil change in the near future

HeadAche

04-03-2003, 07:50 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mante)</div><div class='quotemain'>Glad to see you admitting your out of the all motor category, currently Im in the no motor category with lil change in the near future</div>

A lil change, dont down play what your doing..MOst of the guyzgalz on the board would sell there lil brother to have that motor you got buried up there... man i hope your motor swap goes better than our lil Friend from GS..

Mante

04-03-2003, 09:13 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Kemist aka Shane)</div><div class='quotemain'>A lil change, dont down play what your doing..MOst of the guyzgalz on the board would sell there lil brother to have that motor you got buried up there... man i hope your motor swap goes better than our lil Friend from GS..</div>

Im not downplaying it, pulling hair due to frustration yes...I really think the swap could/should go quicker since the main wiring harness can just be swapped between the two. The Secondary harness that runs laterally is identically (thank gawd) IF AND WHEN that heater core gets out then I can really really get it started! Im getting a feel for dsm's more then I ever have...the shits starting to make sense to me lol Come saturday if its ment to be the core will be offically out...

oh yea, I havent heard much of hte updates of lil GS boy I seen pics of the evo motor in, from there I havent heard anything else..

redattack

04-04-2003, 09:45 AM

what engie does he have that your all talking about? and another quaestion...i have nos and twin apexi n-1 exhausts however the G ride really does not feel like its pushing when i floor it.... is this just me or is it really not as quick as i thought but can fly if you do some work to?

Mante

04-04-2003, 10:02 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(redattack)</div><div class='quotemain'>what engie does he have that your all talking about? and another quaestion...i have nos and twin apexi n-1 exhausts however the G ride really does not feel like its pushing when i floor it.... is this just me or is it really not as quick as i thought but can fly if you do some work to?</div>

if shane and I are talking the same person/project its the evo 8 motor into the 8g. Now your power depending on if your an I4 or v6 the loose of backpressure my be hurting you more then anything. The duals got to be something tight to have...the looks outway any negatives at that point

redattack

04-04-2003, 10:26 AM

after the engine work is done on my car will the exhausts be usefull and not go to waste or the duals on the G-Ride was an engine power loss mistake in the first place?

Mante

04-04-2003, 06:26 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(redattack)</div><div class='quotemain'>after the engine work is done on my car will the exhausts be usefull and not go to waste or the duals on the G-Ride was an engine power loss mistake in the first place?</div>

Depends on how much your doing, but to simplify that answer duals will be more helpful. Do you have true duals or just a "Y" pipe

HeadAche

04-05-2003, 12:47 AM

I think he just has a "Y", which is very typical.. I think he is loosing a ton of backpressure, hence his feeling of not haveing enough get up and go.. I would personally go back to a single exhaust running pipping no bigger than 2.75", unless your like me who is running 3" pipping.. and how much nitrous are you pushing.. I pushed a ton right off of three bottles and the power was always there..

redattack

04-08-2003, 11:41 AM

what do you mean by true duals or y??

Mante

04-08-2003, 12:35 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(redattack)</div><div class='quotemain'>what do you mean by true duals or y??</div>

True duals: have two exhaust pipes running fromthe motor back to the muffler etc.

The Y pipe uses the same single exhaust pipe to maybe the rear axle area then splits to have two mufflers..cheap..and fake but its appealing to the eye

HeadAche

04-08-2003, 03:00 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mante)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(redattack)</div><div class='quotemain'>what do you mean by true duals or y??</div>

True duals: have two exhaust pipes running fromthe motor back to the muffler etc.

The Y pipe uses the same single exhaust pipe to maybe the rear axle area then splits to have two mufflers..cheap..and fake but its appealing to the eye</div>

its appealing to the eye, but the power loss really isnt..

redattack

04-09-2003, 11:38 PM

so when i put in all the worx~ the 300 hp pushign the car would still be worse with the duals then it would have been with a regular exhaust?

mochanges

04-10-2003, 12:55 PM

True duals will only apply to a V6, where you run two sets of piping, one from each bank, then they meet in an X pipe.

Clay is not using an EVO 8 motor, it's an EVO 5 or 6.

-Mohammad

HeadAche

04-12-2003, 03:44 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mochanges)</div><div class='quotemain'>True duals will only apply to a V6, where you run two sets of piping, one from each bank, then they meet in an X pipe.

Clay is not using an EVO 8 motor, it's an EVO 5 or 6.

-Mohammad</div>

Its an EVO 5, and does anyone know if he even got that thing running yet..

seth98esT

04-16-2003, 01:15 AM

sorry, its evo 4 and last i heard he was still doing the wiring...

Ranger_kill

04-16-2003, 03:39 PM

I got you all beat i am putting a v-twin i 4 in mine (ok maybe in my dreams) but it sounds good!!

HeadAche

04-16-2003, 05:10 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(seth)</div><div class='quotemain'>sorry, its evo 4 and last i heard he was still doing the wiring...</div>

Damn he's still doing the wirring, i thought he would have finished that by now..

Mante

04-18-2003, 11:53 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Kemist aka Shane)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(seth)</div><div class='quotemain'>sorry, its evo 4 and last i heard he was still doing the wiring...</div>

Damn he's still doing the wirring, i thought he would have finished that by now..</div>

4 months of wiring thats pitiful I hope he or the persons doing the work for him took a break. From what I remember he had that motor in even before I got mine to my house, I get to start the great world of wiring soon...whoooppieee!

mochanges

04-18-2003, 11:57 AM

Why do you have such a problem with Clay? I'm glad that he's trying the EVO conversion, as I am also glad that you are trying the VR-4 conversion. Why such animosity towards him?

-Mohammad

Mante

04-18-2003, 01:57 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mochanges)</div><div class='quotemain'>Why do you have such a problem with Clay? I'm glad that he's trying the EVO conversion, as I am also glad that you are trying the VR-4 conversion. Why such animosity towards him?

-Mohammad</div>

Me animosity? haha nah I dont have a problem with anyone..well let me rephrase that, no problem with clay...Im just not a happy go lucky person..if someone just "talks" about a modification and dont currently have it or have hands on experience they could have saved a post. At this present time I see it like this.."put up or shed up" if your going to back a mod show me the improvement "bang for your buck" if you will.

Fishboy55

04-18-2003, 07:07 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mante)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mochanges)</div><div class='quotemain'>Why do you have such a problem with Clay? I'm glad that he's trying the EVO conversion, as I am also glad that you are trying the VR-4 conversion. Why such animosity towards him?

-Mohammad</div>

Me animosity? haha nah I dont have a problem with anyone..well let me rephrase that, no problem with clay...Im just not a happy go lucky person..if someone just "talks" about a modification and dont currently have it or have hands on experience they could have saved a post. At this present time I see it like this.."put up or shed up" if your going to back a mod show me the improvement "bang for your buck" if you will.</div>
Mo, it's truly not animosity. I don't mean to speak for Mante, but he and I have talked at length about this and share the same thoughts. Both of us have done a lot of mods to our cars and learned a lot from first hand experience. We've also installed mods that don't do squat or just don't work, despite the hype from either the manufacturer or another member.

So if we say "Hey this really adds low end torque.", we're not just repeating what we've read or posting to raise our post count. We're genuinely trying to be helpful and share our experience. By the same token, when someone says to us "Install this, it adds 15HP.", or "I'm swapping to a 3000GT throttle body.", the first thing we're going to say is "Show me the dyno sheet or show me your time slip from the track or show me a photo of the finished install." That's also based on our experience. It's not animosity. It's just a matter of not buying the hype and only taking stock (or spending money) on things that are proven or that we prove ourselves.

I admire Clay for trying that Evo swap. The fact he's been trying to wire it for four months probably means he didn't do enough homework at the front end. That's costing him at the back end and I bet you he's spanking himself for it. So please don't mistake mine and Mante's disbelief with animosity. Just call us the "Show Me" modders. :wink:

mochanges

04-18-2003, 08:53 PM

Cool, I understand where you both are coming from. As far as CLay goes, he should be able to pull it off, as far as I know he's just confused with the wiring, but everyting has been put together including the tranny. I know where you ar coming from with "show me" mods, especially with the headers. At least you were able to save a lot of people, including me, a ton of money.

-Mohammad

UncleMeat

09-29-2003, 01:32 PM

the wiring has been done for several months... it was easy once the wiring diagrams were located

for all of you saying "it should have been done long ago" go try to find an evo4 wiring harness diagram. not an evo5, or 6, or 8 , go try to find an evo4 wiring diagram...parts had to be ordered from overseas, which means it comes over on a boat, through the panama canal...its a long shipping process, very long...this project was not rushed, the driver had other cars he was working on also including a 93 tsi talon awd, and a 91 galant vr4

the project took time, parts had to be custom fabricated, two ecu's had to be mated to run at once, its a complicated process

and for the comment about people just talking...how could you say this project is just talking, its completed ... its BEEN completed it was the first, and is currently the only swapped 8g....you cant "put up" much more than that

sorry if i brought a dead post back to life, just correcting the slander

Green Machine

09-29-2003, 07:37 PM

Been five+ months since this topic was dropped last. 5+ months. How about some pics, would love to see some. That has got to be a bad-assed feeling knowing you have that motor in there. Damn, how much was the final $ damage?

UncleMeat

09-29-2003, 07:45 PM

the work was done by the owner in his personal garage, labor was free

motor was under 4000, turbo was under 1000

someone posted a pic on the first page i believe, i know i just saw it recently

Green Machine

09-29-2003, 07:50 PM

Anyone have any numbers from a dyno and/or a track on this beast?

UncleMeat

09-29-2003, 07:57 PM

car is currently unregistered, hasnt made it to a dyno or track yet

its undergoing body modifications at the moment

Mante

09-29-2003, 08:32 PM

is currently the only swapped 8g....

ummm I wouldnt say that https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif

As far as my comment about put up or shed up it wasnt directed at you.

Green Machine

09-29-2003, 08:34 PM

is currently the only swapped 8g....

ummm I wouldnt say that https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif

As far as my comment about put up or shed up it wasnt directed at you.
Whatcha' got Mante? :wink:

UncleMeat

09-29-2003, 09:11 PM

Mante

09-29-2003, 09:44 PM

Click here look under 6a13tt ('http://briefcase.yahoo.com/mante78')

So as I said before you ...or CLAY is not alone in the 8g swap....ya hurd?

The underframe is giving me/us a sever headache but other then that its great!

Green Machine

09-29-2003, 09:48 PM

Sorry bro, but, how do I see your pics through a yahoo profile?

Mante

09-29-2003, 10:01 PM

Sorry bro, but, how do I see your pics through a yahoo profile?

You were quicker then I was lol i went ahead and changed the link to go to the briefcase. try now it should work.

UncleMeat

09-29-2003, 10:20 PM

inserts "completed" after the word "first" in the other quote

mochanges

09-29-2003, 10:23 PM

Are we still talking about all motor in this thread?

Mante

09-29-2003, 10:26 PM

inserts "completed" after the word "first" in the other quote

ok, yall started in January right as did I but to make you feel better about a car thats not yours yes Clays car is "finished" first. Happy now ?

UncleMeat

09-29-2003, 10:27 PM

UncleMeat

09-29-2003, 10:28 PM

not trying to start any wars, just keep facts straight

now tell me whats the deal with the subframe

Mante

09-29-2003, 10:32 PM

the motor sitting too low? is it hitting the crossmember that holds the front motor mount?

what part is givin you trouble, the space between the rear cross member and the transfer case was a problem when test fitting an awd tranny in an 8g

Nah the undercarrage of the V6 is different then the I4 so the subframe mounts about 2" lower nothing significant just another mound to get over.

UncleMeat

09-29-2003, 10:34 PM

are we talking about the front crossmember that goes front to back? the part that is removable, with the motor mount on it?

are you using usdm galant tranny or jdm galant tranny?

Mante

09-29-2003, 10:37 PM

are we talking about the front crossmember that goes front to back? the part that is removable, with the motor mount on it?

are you using usdm galant tranny or jdm galant tranny?

No the rear subframe that the back motor mount sits on, also where the rack and pinion is located. I would be able to use the jdm crossmember which would fit perfectly

UncleMeat

09-29-2003, 10:40 PM

Mante

09-29-2003, 10:44 PM

yeah, that is the subframe that keeps the usdm chassis from accepting an awd tranny

what tranny are you using?

i havent looked too much into jdm subframes with the rack and pinion, would you have to swap to RHD to make the jdm subframe and rack and pinion work?

yup the very one, the USDM I4 subframe is just over weight lol. Im using the awd trans actually. the USDM subframe is damn near identical to the jdm so I made a visit to the junk yard. I have an idea on what to do to get pass this spacing issue but other then that the car is done.

UncleMeat

09-29-2003, 10:47 PM

is your awd tranny modded into fwd with no transfer case?

are you able to cut a section out of the subframe and weld more support in to make up for the missing section?

or is more clearance needed

Mante

09-29-2003, 10:52 PM

is your awd tranny modded into fwd with no transfer case?

are you able to cut a section out of the subframe and weld more support in to make up for the missing section?

or is more clearance needed

right no transfer case, and neatly done if I say so myself lol

I thought about that but hte rack and pinion is right in the middle of hte subframe so it really cant be modded.

So its alittle easier to just work on the clearance issue I think, Im supposed to head up to the shop tomorrow to go over my plan