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QnzMostWanted
07-10-2011, 06:00 PM
looking to pick up this car this week, getting it for $450

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r132/Qnzfinest1981/GS/IMG-20110710-00135.jpg

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r132/Qnzfinest1981/GS/IMG-20110710-00134.jpg

whats the potential of this car? what are my options?
comes with a 4G63 DOHC...not sure what i can do with this car

Skyforger
07-10-2011, 06:24 PM
Mitsubishi sold VR4 models of this gen in the US...isn't it the same 4G63 in the DSMs?

QnzMostWanted
07-10-2011, 06:31 PM
definitely not a VR4 and i know i cant convert it to one either, I wish i could do a AWD conversion from a GS-X but i doubt it, i heard the subframes are different.....not sure if its a 6 bolt or a 7 bolt 4g63....

Skyforger
07-10-2011, 06:44 PM
Is this going to be a beater...or project car?

QnzMostWanted
07-10-2011, 06:54 PM
its gonna be a project / DD... as soon as it comes home im pulling the engine for a rebuild, gonna work on her slowly and then DD her lol

been talking to 4-G-Rim about possibilities on what i can do with her....lets just say boost is in the future, just dunno how soon

Sleepervr-4
07-10-2011, 06:59 PM
Denver if you really want to know about converting that car your better off going to www.galantvr4.org and Dam this makes me miss my old vr4.

QnzMostWanted
07-10-2011, 07:04 PM
thanks Angel, ima check it out

Sleepervr-4
07-10-2011, 07:05 PM
Here is some motivation denver. Remember this engine bay ;-)

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n79/DarkPhoenixTSi/GVR4/IMAG0037-1.jpg

QnzMostWanted
07-10-2011, 07:07 PM
i still got the vid of ur AWD burnout lol

Sleepervr-4
07-10-2011, 07:32 PM
i still got the vid of ur AWD burnout lol

Those were the good old days lol

Galanttuner10
07-10-2011, 09:50 PM
You can put a small to mild turbo setup in it, 2g maf, fuel pump, injectors front mount. And what year was it made? If it was early 92 it's a 6 bolt and can handle much more than the 7 bolts. It also has a 9.0-1 compression ratio and not the 7.8-1 like the turbos so faster spool and more power with a 16g setup.

4-G-rim
07-10-2011, 11:25 PM
Denver..you know what we talked about already so you know my input.

6bolt or 7bolt..both can make the same power, both are 4g63's. Now for the sake or arguing about crankwalk that has seemed to be solved due to 7 bolts being more delicate with engine lubrication and oil squirters being more prone to "debris" and clogging up due to a sensitive check valve. Solution...change your oil on time and use a quality oil filter or swapping oil squirters from a 6bolt to the 7bolt

There is a difference in the FWD and AWD e39a/b chassis which makes it a bit difficult and not cost effective to convert to AWD.

QnzMostWanted
07-10-2011, 11:45 PM
ima keep it FWD, but im going to slowly plan out my options, first thing im doing is rebuilding the engine no matter what, so once i have it out, i'll know what my next step is

galantlvr34
07-10-2011, 11:56 PM
Why do you want to rebuild the engine?

Galanttuner10
07-11-2011, 06:18 AM
stock 6 bolts can make more power stock and has nothing to do with crankwalk. just look at the 2 rods next to each other.

QnzMostWanted
07-11-2011, 08:07 AM
Why do you want to rebuild the engine?

really? ur gonna get a 20 year old car and not rebuild the engine?

4-G-rim
07-11-2011, 08:10 AM
Comparing the rods yes...6 bolts are beefier, but making power is now a blown myth.

They have been guys since 06 making 500-600hp on a stock bottom end 7bolt. Evo 2-4 having been running 7bolts for years and been making strong reliable power.

Either or..if you plan to make 500+hp on a 4g63 anyways and run it hard regularly....you should upgrade internals anyways.

galantlvr34
07-11-2011, 09:13 AM
really? ur gonna get a 20 year old car and not rebuild the engine?

I was just asking because there could have been something wrong with it or something.You could just be rebuilding to handle a turbo or something to like changing the pisons for forged pistons.

QnzMostWanted
07-11-2011, 12:42 PM
nah engine is strong, but i'd rather be safe than sorry, i may boost in the future, so i'll make the necessary upgrades as needed when rebuilding

my plans are to completely gut the body, clean up everything, gonna do this car one step at a time and get it fully cleaned, then pull engine and transmission, clean out the engine bay and then go to work, body upgrades include JDM front and rear bumpers, clear or amber corner markers, vr4 lower skirts, evo brembos with 5 lug conversion, as far as interior goes, the Evo 8 interior (front and rear seats) fits with minor mods, so i might go with that, or something different, OEM seats are in great condition but i dont ever leave anything stock lol....1g short shifter and i'll figure out the rest as time goes on, doing alot of research on whats available for the interior and exterior but im gonna keep it clean and simple, not sure if i wanna go with JDM heads or the 93 Crystal heads...so all in due time :)

Galanttuner10
07-11-2011, 01:12 PM
Kev, the rods are stronger and the higher power in the 2g 7 bolts an evos are the higher compression ratio. Also Evo rods look like normal 7 bolt rods but are stronger as well.

Good luck with the car. I always wanted to find a 6g GSX as a nice daily

QnzMostWanted
07-13-2011, 09:41 PM
also need some info on doing a MAF swap, i know they do a 1g to 3g MAF harness adaptor, would that be able to work with mine as well? being that im N/A im not sure if the 6g NA maf is the same as the vr4 or as the 1g, can someone shine some light on this subject, my plans are to make a custom CAI, but i'd rather use the 3g Maf vs a 2g/7g due to being able to use a 3" coupler instead of a 4.5 hack

found this pinout between the 1g sensors and the 3g/evo...i guess that includes 8g as well
3G MAF pinout
Pin 1 = +5 volts
Pin 2 = Barometer
Pin 3 = Airflow Hz
Pin 4 = +12 Volts from MPI
Pin 5 = Ground
Pin 6 = Intake Air Temp
Pin 7 = Reset

So, the correct crossover wiring to our MAS plug is:
3G/EVO Pin 1 to 1G MAS Pin 4
3G/EVO Pin 2 to 1G MAS Pin 7
3G/EVO Pin 3 to 1G MAS Pin 2
3G/EVO Pin 4 to 1G MAS Pin 3
3G/EVO Pin 5 to 1G MAS Pin 6
3G/EVO Pin 6 to 1G MAS Pin 8
3G/EVO Pin 7 to 1G MAS Pin 1

Galanttuner10
07-13-2011, 10:01 PM
the part numbers for the non turbo 1g/6g is MD125922 and the 1g turbo is MD125924. should be the same plug tho. so in theory you can use a 3g but i really wouldnt mind a 2g/7g as there are plenty of intakes for it and its honestly 1 coupler and you can fit a 4.5 inch filter and there is the 1g to 2g plug too

QnzMostWanted
07-13-2011, 10:06 PM
im actually talking about the back end of the 2g/7g maf, that oval shape that u have to stretch to fit, dont feel like doing another home depot mod if i dont have to

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r132/Qnzfinest1981/2gmasvsevomas.jpg

Galanttuner10
07-13-2011, 10:24 PM
i know what you mean. just ge ta 2g intake pipe or get the plug for a 1g to 3g but i havent seen it

also something to note about calibration being needed for the 3g maf.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/bolt-tech/182220-3g-maf-1g.html

and here
http://www.galantvr4.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Board=UBB1&Number=997145&page=0&fpart=1

QnzMostWanted
07-13-2011, 10:33 PM
im going to get one locally....if i go 2g, i dont have to calibrate?

Galanttuner10
07-15-2011, 09:48 PM
2g no calibration really needed. its so minimal it can self tune out whereas the 3g/evo flows a lot more esp when cruising so you would always lean out