track time!!

[galant1983]

so i wanted to see what everybody's guess would be for quarter mile time?

current modz are,3.5 mani and tb,5spd,catback,semi tune,k&n intake,all seats removed,egr delete and a few other things.

[M-Rod]

Mid 15s probably

[keith6110]

High 14's. I have similar mods and it keeps up with a slightly modded gst neck and neck.

stock 2g gst 1/4 mile is 14.9

[Stewi]

i'd say anwwhere from 14.8 to 16.0 is about right.

[qnz]

mid 15s is my guess

[foxbrand]

with your mods (and you don't use to the super stick track I go to), you should manage to get mid to low 15's

[Palmz]

15.6

[oakrdrs187]

15.1 @ 91mph

[M-Rod]

This is starting to remind me of the game show on speed channel

[mrg7243]

Honestly it depends on driver. Have you ever been to the track before? If so what was it you took down the track? What did you run? Have you ever taken the G down a sticky track? what type of tires are you going to run? These are all questions that matter before i could truly make a guess. First run is generally the slowest.

[keith6110]

This is starting to remind me of the game show on speed channel

lol Except you don't win $300 for being right.

[Stewi]

If the cars automatic and with those mods, the driver doesnt have as much to do with it versus if the car was manual. With an auto with that power level, you shallow stage, you hold the brake, hold the gas pedal and release the brake when the 3rd yellow light falls and let the car do the rest.

[beam514]

If the cars automatic and with those mods, the driver doesnt have as much to do with it versus if the car was manual. With an auto with that power level, you shallow stage, you hold the brake, hold the gas pedal and release the brake when the 3rd yellow light falls and let the car do the rest.

he is 5 speed :)

[Stewi]

he is 5 speed :)

I pretty much suck.....


So yeah, with that being said, best advice I can give you is this, if your using normal street tires which you likely are, DONT DO A BURNOUT. All it does is overheat the tires and get them nice and greasy for the launch, it will be like driving on ice coming off the line. I think if you get a good launch like 2.2 or less 60ft, and you hit all your shifts well, you should be high 14's low 15's.

[galant1983]

Honestly it depends on driver. Have you ever been to the track before? If so what was it you took down the track? What did you run? Have you ever taken the G down a sticky track? what type of tires are you going to run? These are all questions that matter before i could truly make a guess. First run is generally the slowest.

well i went to the track last year when i was stock and i ran a 17.8 with a slipping a/t and i have 225/40's

[galant1983]

im shooting for high 14s hopefully!!

[HondaKillerGTZ]

You should be around 14.6-15.0 @ 93-95mph. I did 15.2 @ 92 just with the 5 speed and full interior, even car seats!!

[galant1983]

as of right now i blew my axle on the first run!!! wtf ! so im in the process of installing a new one and see if i can get at least one run in

[M-Rod]

At least the diff didn't go "kaboom!"

[galant1983]

At least the diff didn't go "kaboom!"

well im not really sure right now i changed the driverside axle and when im driving it kinda bogs out/stumbles i watch my rpms and they didnt change than i realize it keeps sliping out of gear and making this crazy noise when i turn i was thinking the clutch was shot! but i just got it.im not sure what really going so i ask for help.cuz i really dont want to take this apart again!!

[beam514]

you just got the clutch? how many miles have you put on it?

[M-Rod]

I think Keith and jigz had that problem. iirc it was the diff :-/

I'll let them chime in since mine gave no warning, it just shattered.

[galant1983]

you just got the clutch? how many miles have you put on it?

im not sure how many miles but its been a month since the install

[mrg7243]

Damn i am scared to launch my G at 3000g now =(

[foxbrand]

and now I'll be looking for aftermarket race spec half shafts............
I hope you'll be able to find them as well

[galant1983]

and now I'll be looking for aftermarket race spec half shafts............
I hope you'll be able to find them as well

well im not sure what it is.all the gears work it just feels lik the front wants to fall out plus i think i broke a motor mount

[Stewi]

the diff is done in the tranny. dont use it anymore, if you blow the diff out of the tranny the whole tranny will be junk.

[mrg7243]

LSD TIME!!! mn

[keith6110]

Differential for sure. Blew on my g awhile back and had to swap tranny's. It makes a clicking sound/feel when turning hard in one direction or the other.

Sorry to hear, but I think you've got a month left until it goes. Look into an lsd as soon as possible.

[galant1983]

Differential for sure. Blew on my g awhile back and had to swap tranny's. It makes a clicking sound/feel when turning hard in one direction or the other.

Sorry to hear, but I think you've got a month left until it goes. Look into an lsd as soon as possible.

so are diff expensive and is it hard to replace?

[fatal1]

i believe goosey is selling his old quaife lsd with the bearing/ gears already pressed in. otherwise it would be around 1k for just the diff (new) and you would have to get the bearings from the dealer and remove your gears and unless you have the right tools you have to take it to a shop to be pressed on. there is a tutorial on c3g as to how to replace it. it is kind of a pain in the ass

[Galanttuner10]

seems like the diff is done as said before, just saying but on the very first run y didnt u take it easy and get a feel for it? the track is so different than the street it terms of grip and takes getting used to and if u dumped the clutch too fast the diff exploded that easy. your a v6 right? good luck finding another tranny.

[galant1983]

seems like the diff is done as said before, just saying but on the very first run y didnt u take it easy and get a feel for it? the track is so different than the street it terms of grip and takes getting used to and if u dumped the clutch too fast the diff exploded that easy. your a v6 right? good luck finding another tranny.

i did take it easy i launch at 3grand i didnt think that was much

[Stewi]

When you say you launched at 3k, did you just hold it at 3k and just side step the clutch and dump it? You have to understand that the stock diff is a POS and it went from not moving at all full power in an instant, thats what breaks shit. The idea is to launch at around 4500 rpm and slip the clutch a little bit until the car barely starts to move, then let it go completely.

[deeznutz]

When you say you launched at 3k, did you just hold it at 3k and just side step the clutch and dump it? You have to understand that the stock diff is a POS and it went from not moving at all full power in an instant, thats what breaks shit. The idea is to launch at around 4500 rpm and slip the clutch a little bit until the car barely starts to move, then let it go completely.

Spoken like a true dragster lol.

I already spoke wit Goosey at the meet I'm taking that LSD :) as soon as he pulls it from the trans

[Isaurio]

Advice. Dont track the car without a tune. I bet you have no tune on the computer.

[galant1983]

Advice. Dont track the car without a tune. I bet you have no tune on the computer.

actually i do there buddy

[galant1983]

and lsd is order thanks to the wifey!

[keith6110]

and lsd is order thanks to the wifey!

awesome man! Shouldn't have any manual problems from here on out lol

[Exhaust power]

Where you guys find lsd's at?

[galantboost]

lol Except you don't win $300 for being right.

lol winning $300 for guess the time would be a great bonus to this thread

[OMEGA PHX]

Where you guys find lsd's at?

http://www.importcarpartsplus.com/3gclutchfw.htm#LSDs
and I think RRE also sells them.

[Galanttuner10]

LSD will still break if launched wrong. look up 1gs and 2g blowing welded center diffs and rear diffs on dumped launches. gotta slip it esp at the track where it has so much more grip than the street.

[Stewi]

Yes and no. With a true helical gear LSD like the Quaife, if you dump it, you wont break the diff itself, if the shock is too great, it will end up cracking the bell housing, case or breaking the input shaft or wrecking the shaft bearing. Good advice though, you always wanna slip it. So in short, you may not break the diff if you dump it, but you will break something else, so dont dump it.

[Exhaust power]

http://www.importcarpartsplus.com/3gclutchfw.htm#LSDs
and I think RRE also sends them.

Thanks way too much money though. If it was half the price yes.

[Isaurio]

actually i do there buddy

Good to know.

[Stewi]

Thanks way too much money though. If it was half the price yes.

Thats what they cost though. The quaife runs about $975 or so and the WaveTrac about the same price. Both have a lifetime warranty.

[Exhaust power]

Thats what they cost though. The quaife runs about $975 or so and the WaveTrac about the same price. Both have a lifetime warranty.


I see that obx makes some cheapo ones for the evo but i dont think their lsd works with the F5M42? I seen a quife lsd for a 3g eclipse on ebay for 8XX cant remember which tranny though but thats a decent price for what the cite had listed.

[Stewi]

The 3g LSD's are the same for V6 and I4. I know this for a fact because I have held them next to each other, plus the quaife in Roman's car was formerly in FrankMB's car which was a V6 which is now Craig's car (Fatal1).

OBX Also makes a 3g one, I think you have to special order it, I think for the cost of the OBX unit and the potential consequences of it going bad, its worth it to invest in a good LSD like quaife or wavetrac. When the LSD goes bad, it destroys the tranny, you need to replace the whole tranny if it blows up. The 2g eclipse FWD and 3g Eclipse diff are the same, except they spin the opposite way. For example, if you found a Kaaz LSD for a 2g GST, you could open it up, reverse the clutch packs, put it back together and it will work in a 3g. You can only do it with Kaaz because its a clutch pack type, with a Wavetrac or Quaife you cant because of the gears.

[Exhaust power]

The 3g LSD's are the same for V6 and I4. I know this for a fact because I have held them next to each other, plus the quaife in Roman's car was formerly in FrankMB's car which was a V6 which is now Craig's car (Fatal1).

OBX Also makes a 3g one, I think you have to special order it, I think for the cost of the OBX unit and the potential consequences of it going bad, its worth it to invest in a good LSD like quaife or wavetrac. When the LSD goes bad, it destroys the tranny, you need to replace the whole tranny if it blows up. The 2g eclipse FWD and 3g Eclipse diff are the same, except they spin the opposite way. For example, if you found a Kaaz LSD for a 2g GST, you could open it up, reverse the clutch packs, put it back together and it will work in a 3g. You can only do it with Kaaz because its a clutch pack type, with a Wavetrac or Quaife you cant because of the gears.

Thanks for the great info! i wouldnt risk swapping in a obx lsd unless i had a spare tranny which are hard to find right now. Having a lsd will defiantly be an objective if i keep on with my power/racing goals.

[galant1983]

so here we go again!! lol i will be hitting the track on sat and i wont be doing any 3k launches lol!

[Exhaust power]

You better run a 14.9!. 4K launch with a little slip? dont do a pre stage burnout they dont help at all lol

[Stewi]

You better run a 14.9!. 4K launch with a little slip? dont do a pre stage burnout they dont help at all lol

correct, unless your running slicks, no burnout, and if you are running slicks on an open diff, dont do that either : )

[galant1983]

so i just got back from the track and i ran a 15.2 with no issues besides traction.only got 2 runs before the rain hit

[Exhaust power]

Thats pretty good. I cant wait till im hitting up the strips