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qcustoms
07-31-2011, 03:48 AM
sorry for another thread of 1million in existance BUT please tell me are these sets any good for me? i want to upgrade my low beams to HID, and high beam brighter and fog lamps Brighter

so i found these items.what wil lwork and what wont and whats a waste of time

factory bulbs needed for our lights are

Low Beams: H7
High Beams: H1
Front Parks: BA9
Fogs: H3
Fog Turning Lamps: 1156 (or BA15S)
Reverse: 7440
Front Indicators: 1156 (or BA15S) (if removing orange lens use amber globe)
Rear Indicators: PY21W (or BAU15S / 7507 (30°offset) Amber)
Tail/Brake Lights: 7443
Series 2 Eye level brake light (3): W16W or 921 (also T15 fitment, but a standard T15 globe is lower power)
Interior Courtesy: 3022 31mm festoon
Front Door Courtesy: BA9S
Side Indicators: WY5W (or W5W/194/168/501 Amber)


i found these itmes,whats your thaughtson what to go for??

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250864820112&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350481633819&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190560969278&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170675196270&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220822315291&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270791300212&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

i apreciate any hel phere guys,im not too clued up on this HID or Xenon they talk about lol

OMEGA PHX
07-31-2011, 10:43 AM
Ok well first of all I don't know if you have projectors in headlights, if your planning to use them in a reflector HID will cause large amounts of glare, blind other drivers, and it isn't going to be efficient getting the light to the road where you need it.

With HID you first need to set on the temperature measured in Kelvin(K) (color) you want, OEM Lexus, BMW etc. are 4300K, thats like white with a lil yellow tint, 5000K are white, 6000K white with a lil tint of blue. And so on 4300K gives you the most lumens, better visibility and lumens go down at the same time you go up on the Kelvin.

The second link you posted is for purple/pink HID 25000K, maybe look cool but driving with them will not be cool since light on the road is going to suck big time, your third link is for 12000K that's going to be solid blue I think again lighting will suck.

So your links are for blue, purple/pink HID, no good for lighting up the road,

If you want the best performance retrofit HID projectors if you haven't and get HID's around 4300K, 4500K and 5000K

This is for the HID's I didn't review the halogen bulbs you posted. ANd I haven't had any experience buying HID's from ebay so I can't talk about quality or anything, hope this helps.

Skyforger
07-31-2011, 11:24 AM
From my own experience, use a 35W HID bulb in a reflector housing. The JDM heads have a black housing, so glare isn't as bad as a crystal housing. 5000K and 6000K are the best compromise of color and visibility.

Also, I recommend buying HIDs from this site:

www.hidny.com

I bought mine from them, three years of use and they still work great. They come with 5-6 year warranties, IIRC.

qcustoms
07-31-2011, 03:17 PM
thank you guys and sorry for the post but im not upto the clue on these flash lights,, i will be using them in JDM lights yes so i want what wil lbe best for them.
and also ihave a set of the projector halo lights on ebay and can i upgrade them to hid aswell or? and how

Skyforger
07-31-2011, 03:32 PM
The eBay projectors usually have poor light output. If you're gonna do projectors, I'd do a retro-fit.

qcustoms
07-31-2011, 03:48 PM
so for low beam is this a good combo then?


HID-101BS > HID Single Beam Basic Conversion Kit



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Item #: HID-101BS







* Marked fields are required.



Color: *

Light Blue 12000K

Bulb Size: *

H7

Price

$49.99


as for the fog lights they are PFL VR4 Foglights so have a projectr style setup in them

hedonism
07-31-2011, 03:49 PM
https://www.thegalantcenter.org/showthread.php?t=47060

Nuff said.

qcustoms
07-31-2011, 03:52 PM
https://www.thegalantcenter.org/showthread.php?t=47060

Nuff said.
nah way too costly .. id only consider spending that amount on when i do the lighting on my project ute,but for my daily hacker its not warrantable spending otrageous amounts llike you do.

the boys have shown me a cost effective way to acheive what i desire thanx:060:

hedonism
07-31-2011, 06:56 PM
I'm sorry if this sounds like a personal attack, it isn't.

People like you who spend 100$ and put a HID kit into their cars are ignorant of the fact that they blind people, are illegal, and are probably worse than regular Halogen bulbs. I was one of these people before, that even when my headlights were pointed down, still blinded the shit out of oncoming traffic.

If you're going to do something, do it right. All I'm saying.

mrg7243
07-31-2011, 07:20 PM
I'm sorry if this sounds like a personal attack, it isn't.

People like you who spend 100$ and put a HID kit into their cars are ignorant of the fact that they blind people, are illegal, and are probably worse than regular Halogen bulbs. I was one of these people before, that even when my headlights were pointed down, still blinded the shit out of oncoming traffic.

If you're going to do something, do it right. All I'm saying.


If they were aimed down and still blinded people you have issues:orangerolleyes::orangerolleyes:. I have 35w 5k HIDs have them aimed 20ft away and have never had an issue. Even drove behind cops and never a dirty look or anything.

Skyforger
07-31-2011, 07:34 PM
If they were aimed down and still blinded people you have issues:orangerolleyes::orangerolleyes:. I have 35w 5k HIDs have them aimed 20ft away and have never had an issue. Even drove behind cops and never a dirty look or anything.

This.

35W and you won't have an issue. It's the guys running 55W in reflector housings with 10,000K and 12,000K that blind people. Not to mention, you lose your visibility with that temp too. I've been using 6000K, 35W for +3 years, never had an issue with cops, or excessive glare.

hedonism
07-31-2011, 09:55 PM
I had a 6000k 35W hid kit, and looked SIDEWAYS at my headlights, and couldn't see a thing for a couple of minutes.

Skyforger
07-31-2011, 10:29 PM
Don't have that issue with mine. Dunno what to tell you.

rowdyprouty
07-31-2011, 10:40 PM
https://www.thegalantcenter.org/showthread.php?t=46087

I did mine for under $120. I spent more trying things out but the projectors and shrouds were cheap on ebay. If I had done it the way it ended up in the end, it would have cost me $80 plus the HID

But im with most people in that HID in stock headlights is not a good idea, and heres a few reasons: 1. The stock reflector is designed to work with halogen light, not HID metal halid. This gives you major hot spots and really dead spots. 2. HID with projectors gives you really focused light in all the right places. 3. Because the stock relfector is not designed for HID it really does scatter the light and it is always in oncoming drivers eyes, so what you lower your headlight aim and what does that do for you, light up 20 feet in front of you? 4. The HID burn really hot and actually cause your reflectors to haze over reducing their reflective properties after time.

So all in all, my Grandpa was right. If its worth doing its worth doing right and doing it well. You will be 1000 times happier to go projector with the HID, and go with Bi-xenon projectors. Also Im kind of a light freak and the output from my Land Rover Bi-xenon with 35w 4300k is awesome!!!!!!

mrg7243
07-31-2011, 10:42 PM
I had a 6000k 35W hid kit, and looked SIDEWAYS at my headlights, and couldn't see a thing for a couple of minutes.

Wanna cookie? They are hids yes they are going to be bright, you just need to use your common sense with them. You obviously have your headlights aimed entirely wrong if you look at them SIDEWAYS and have the lights in your eyes. Think smart not hard. Or just think.

DTP
07-31-2011, 10:43 PM
Don't have that issue with mine. Dunno what to tell you.

I have a 4300K 35W kit and no problems here. With the 4x4 mode on the stock G's suspension, it's possible that the lights were aimed improperly. My car was a lot better once i dropped it.

Never had any cop issues with mine, either.

mrg7243
07-31-2011, 10:52 PM
https://www.thegalantcenter.org/showthread.php?t=46087

I did mine for under $120. I spent more trying things out but the projectors and shrouds were cheap on ebay. If I had done it the way it ended up in the end, it would have cost me $80 plus the HID

But im with most people in that HID in stock headlights is not a good idea, and heres a few reasons: 1. The stock reflector is designed to work with halogen light, not HID metal halid. This gives you major hot spots and really dead spots. 2. HID with projectors gives you really focused light in all the right places. 3. Because the stock relfector is not designed for HID it really does scatter the light and it is always in oncoming drivers eyes, so what you lower your headlight aim and what does that do for you, light up 20 feet in front of you? 4. The HID burn really hot and actually cause your reflectors to haze over reducing their reflective properties after time.

So all in all, my Grandpa was right. If its worth doing its worth doing right and doing it well. You will be 1000 times happier to go projector with the HID, and go with Bi-xenon projectors. Also Im kind of a light freak and the output from my Land Rover Bi-xenon with 35w 4300k is awesome!!!!!!

1. I agree yes with not being designed. But I major disagree with hot spots and dead spots. I do not have them, yes there is a brighter spot. But that is the focus part of the beam even standard halogens

2. I agree with that projectors are the way to go but I do not like the look of projectors in the usdm galant heads.

3. I disagree with this if you PROPERLY aim your head lights you can avoi# the glare. You drivers side headlight also should be aimed slgiht lower then the passengers one. And then you can have more than this 20ft seeing distance you speak of.

4. No not with 35w hids and not with 55w. I want to see proof of this.

rowdyprouty
07-31-2011, 11:04 PM
I will get pictures of my old reflectors. I did run HID in stock for about a week 3 years ago before realized it was not the way to go. So i do speak from experience. Its my experience, so you may have a different one.

galant2k0
08-01-2011, 12:45 AM
https://www.thegalantcenter.org/showthread.php?t=46087

I did mine for under $120. I spent more trying things out but the projectors and shrouds were cheap on ebay. If I had done it the way it ended up in the end, it would have cost me $80 plus the HID

But im with most people in that HID in stock headlights is not a good idea, and heres a few reasons: 1. The stock reflector is designed to work with halogen light, not HID metal halid. This gives you major hot spots and really dead spots. 2. HID with projectors gives you really focused light in all the right places. 3. Because the stock relfector is not designed for HID it really does scatter the light and it is always in oncoming drivers eyes, so what you lower your headlight aim and what does that do for you, light up 20 feet in front of you? 4. The HID burn really hot and actually cause your reflectors to haze over reducing their reflective properties after time.

So all in all, my Grandpa was right. If its worth doing its worth doing right and doing it well. You will be 1000 times happier to go projector with the HID, and go with Bi-xenon projectors. Also Im kind of a light freak and the output from my Land Rover Bi-xenon with 35w 4300k is awesome!!!!!!


My shop has been installing 35w and 55w H.I.D. kits for years and have never seen a hazing of a reflector at all. But then again you may have used and inferior kit that wasn't made to fit that housing? Also I don't think that our cars are blinding people as badly as the trucks and SUVs are, especially if your lowered and aim your headlights slightly down.

I do however agree that doing a projector retrofit that is designed to be used with H.I.D. Lighting is far superior as far as beam focusing that the standard housing, and is less annoying to aim. But most people don't have the time, patience and or cash flow to do such a conversion.

wetamup2k3g
08-01-2011, 04:33 PM
Cheap bulbs may haze the reflector and the lens itself if the bulbs have inadequate UV shielding in the glass. Also, all those kit bulbs have little to no QC in manufacture, so the discharge arc gets placed in different spots along the length of the capsule from bulb to bulb and brand to brand. That placement makes the difference in beam output with a given reflector. That's how mrg7243 may not have as much glare as hedonism did. I have been through two sets of bulbs in the same reflectors, and my beam pattern changed tremendously, so much so I had to readjust my heads again, the hot spot was too high, in one day I got flashed more than I ever did with my old setup.

So in essence, you're both right lol!

qcustoms
08-01-2011, 05:47 PM
wow this is what i like constructive debates!!! so now wit hall that info whats the best option to go with now?
obviously it seems buying some projectors and retro fitting them int othe housing is going to be the best then? do i buy HID Projectors or non ?
i can retro fit them no sweat but just want to make the right choice and not spend a fortune either

QnzMostWanted
08-01-2011, 05:57 PM
if ur going to retrofit, get HID projectors and then get the regular HID bulbs for them, u will get the best output using a HID projector vs a Halogen projector

Skyforger
08-01-2011, 06:17 PM
if ur going to retrofit, get HID projectors and then get the regular HID bulbs for them, u will get the best output using a HID projector vs a Halogen projector

This.

Acura TSX and Infiniti FX HID projector units are popular with the retrofits I've seen. It's just a matter of cracking open the headlights without damaging them, then of course, teh fun of resealing the units and making sure they're watertight. Nothing more enfuriating then seeing your finished product fog up with moisture and risk ruining the bulbs inside.

hedonism
08-01-2011, 09:45 PM
Just get some Morimoto D2S Projectors. PNP.

Then get some BUTYL Windshield sealer, watertight accomplished.

qcustoms
08-01-2011, 10:09 PM
tsx, fs or d2s
wich is the debated preffered one then boys?

as for cracking them open and resealing them,5 minutes and its done!!!! iv colourcoded so so many sets of headlights for customers..

5minutes in oven at 150deg C and 1 screwdriver,and apart
then when sealing same protocal and push together flip tabs and away with the fairys lol... no leaks no nothing lol no need for more sealer either as the sealer is reuseable when warmed

rowdyprouty
08-01-2011, 10:25 PM
Well tsx are not bi-xenon not sure what fs are and D2S is a bulb type......


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Skyforger
08-01-2011, 10:25 PM
D2S is just a type of HID bulb, IIRC. Like how an H7 is a type of halogen.

Skyforger
08-01-2011, 10:26 PM
Well tsx are not bi-xenon not sure what fs are and D2S is a bulb type......


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That's not a big deal since he's using JDM heads. ;)

rowdyprouty
08-01-2011, 10:27 PM
But fx-r are really good but I'm hearing really good things about the Morimotos about easy to install and good function etc.


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rowdyprouty
08-01-2011, 10:28 PM
I must have forgot that they are JDM. I haven't read the old stuff since yesterday. Sorry about that


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Skyforger
08-01-2011, 10:30 PM
Never heard of Morimoto...

IMO, can't go wrong with an OEM HID projector, bi-xenon or not.

rowdyprouty
08-01-2011, 10:31 PM
Agreed. I still say bi-xenon and have both on for high!!


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qcustoms
08-02-2011, 12:31 AM
so go bi-xenon for low beams and stick to normal for highs?

so the bi-xenon HID you speak of OEM wich OEM ?

qcustoms
08-02-2011, 12:49 AM
can someone please point me to a good buy on ebay for a complete set of projectors thatll be good for me and do they come with the ballasts or whatever you call them etc? im really unfamiliar with them

hedonism
08-02-2011, 02:15 AM
can someone please point me to a good buy on ebay for a complete set of projectors thatll be good for me and do they come with the ballasts or whatever you call them etc? im really unfamiliar with them

http://www.theretrofitsource.com/product_info.php?products_id=237&osCsid=k3ih8kr28dpvhaodcuk8f18vufts8vcn

oakrdrs187
08-02-2011, 12:44 PM
^^^That6 kit is decently priced. But since I read your post where you said you wanted a budget build because it's your daily, here's a link for a cheaper kit that comes with everything needed to do a Bi-xenon Swap.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HID-BiXenon-Headlight-Projector-Lens-Ballast-Kit-H4-H1-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem4aaaa32d02QQitemZ32069 0400514QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccesso ries

qcustoms
08-02-2011, 02:19 PM
awsum work bud thanx im keen on getting those ,much better with prices..
now for my foglights,what can ido there? theyr factory VR4 Fog lights,they take a H3 bulb whats my options and best option for a brighter light?

oakrdrs187
08-02-2011, 02:43 PM
Which vr4 fog light housing. Flood light or no flood light?

qcustoms
08-02-2011, 02:49 PM
96-98 JDM VR4 foglights,dont you know what they are?

qcustoms
08-02-2011, 02:53 PM
http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x370/vr4wgn/DSCF1093.jpg

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x370/vr4wgn/DSCF1092.jpg

oakrdrs187
08-02-2011, 02:55 PM
I thought perhaps you had these. Which Is why I asked.

http://admin.rpmgarage.com/resize.php?pic=attachments/90c85abebab270724a63b1df2c5c3854.jpg&size=640

oakrdrs187
08-02-2011, 03:02 PM
This is 99galantES freshly painted car.
http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g456/Cramosjr/Snapbucket/8f708c7b-orig.jpg

That with 3000k HID's IMO would be best.

Look here.
https://www.thegalantcenter.org/showthread.php?t=43372&page=3

qcustoms
08-02-2011, 03:13 PM
so he used 3000k hid H3 Bulbs did he? the other set you posted a pic are Facelift Foglights,1 in the inside is the fog and the outer is a turning light only,theyr non projector so wont be as effective as the pfl fogs imo,dont you think? so im looking for atleast a 3k hid bubl,no ballasts needed?

OMEGA PHX
08-02-2011, 03:24 PM
All HID bulbs require a ballast so you would need a 3000k HID kit for your type of bulb

qcustoms
08-02-2011, 03:27 PM
ok so i need to buy a h3 HID Bulb and a ballast kit? and theyll fit in the factory oem foglight without any mods? or am ibarking up the wrong tree?

OMEGA PHX
08-02-2011, 04:08 PM
ok so i need to buy a h3 HID Bulb and a ballast kit? and theyll fit in the factory oem foglight without any mods? or am ibarking up the wrong tree?

Yes if fogs are H3, a H3 3000k HID kit should fit without any modification, and will include the 2 bulbs and the 2 ballasts

qcustoms
08-02-2011, 04:28 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/XENON-light-h1-h3-h7-h8-H9-9005-9006-Conversion-KIT-HID-/180704846983?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a12d92487

so this is ok then? anything special to look out for?

oakrdrs187
08-02-2011, 04:55 PM
I was just trying to point out that 99galantES used housings that have a yellow lens. With that you could either run a regular halogen H3 bulb or get the 3000k HID's to be more golden yellow and brighter.



And Yes that kit is fine, actually wherever you have bought HID's before is OK. Just ask the bulb size to be H3 and the Temperature to be 3000k.

rowdyprouty
08-02-2011, 07:47 PM
Looks kinda like you have some other items that need attention, like the bumper and the front clip that is pushed back? You planning on taking care of those!!? I am so jealous of non-USDM. You guys get all the good stuff!!!!! That is just one big giant Fail on Mitsubishi's part.....

rowdyprouty
08-02-2011, 07:50 PM
I just saw your for sale with the car picture in it. Looks like your taking care of fixing those things?

qcustoms
08-02-2011, 11:27 PM
Looks kinda like you have some other items that need attention, like the bumper and the front clip that is pushed back? You planning on taking care of those!!? I am so jealous of non-USDM. You guys get all the good stuff!!!!! That is just one big giant Fail on Mitsubishi's part.....

those pictures are just sample pics of the foglights im talking about.. that car was crashed back in 08,and is already back on the road now.
the FS thread is for the factory lights that i removed fro mwifes new wagon ti fit the usdm heads thanx