1997 Legnum VR4 twin TD05 build

[Jasmine]

I figured I might separate my post for this build from the "member's ride" section just for the build.

So far we know of only two people who have done it. One side mounted the turbos and one has done on the cheap. We will be the first in NZ to do this build. All parts are new, in engine rebuild and otherwise. We want this to be like new, not to use second hand parts.

Plan for the car is sound offs and show and shine more than anything else. It's not going to be something just to sell, this is my pride and joy and will be with me as long as possible. We wouldn't be planning to spend over $10k+ on the engine alone otherwise.

We have the manual conversion for this car, just looking at getting a heavy duty clutch for it and dropping it all in at once.

A new custom boot installation will be done as well, I shall add that up as a completely separate thread though.

I will update as get more pictures of the build.

Onto the photos

New TD05 turbos

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/318520_10150275784762104_708172103_7842065_4451646 _n.jpg

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/296672_10150276038187104_708172103_7843772_7326620 _n.jpg

New radiator

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/297104_10150275785637104_708172103_7842077_8063795 _n.jpg

Cleaned and painted

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/268293_254083817940565_100000168472916_1297585_301 7300_n.jpg

All pistons in

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/269692_254083847940562_100000168472916_1297586_520 0581_n.jpg

Bottom end and thrust bearings...three weeks later having to come all the way from Japan cause no one in NZ had them in stock.

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/267348_265041860178094_100000168472916_1351621_313 5858_n.jpg

Brand new steering and air con pulleys (going genuine Mitsi is almost a rip!)

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/198783_265041960178084_100000168472916_1351624_682 0022_n.jpg

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/284343_265042016844745_100000168472916_1351625_567 2731_n.jpg

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/185478_265042093511404_100000168472916_1351627_463 0637_n.jpg

Painted!

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/303625_10150283838652104_708172103_7900636_1948405 870_n.jpg

These are on their way to us now. Hylift-Johnson high performance lifters, complete 24 piece set.

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/30/101137330_full.jpg

Will update this post with progress!

There have been a number of people thinking we're stupid for doing this build, that putting td04s would be a much better option. Problem is, we want to do something which hasn't been done in NZ yet, not something a number of other people have done. We're not looking for the "Easy" option. And as to power output, no one can truly say what this build is capable of, as very few have done it. I believe the proof will be in the pudding. If it doesn't work out, it's not their money we're spending.

After contacting one of the two other people we know of who's done this build, he said "I have long sold my Legnum VR-4 with twin TD05 setup (dyno tested at 455bhp at around 1.4 bars)." and the other one of the two people posted this dyno chart, in which his setup is auto not manual:

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/311032_10150284013392104_708172103_7901543_7424038 73_n.jpg

Now the first person side mounted his turbos, and the second one blew the bottom end not long after and has done it on the cheap. We're hoping that we'll gain more than they have. But we'll see how it goes.

[finald8ta]

sweetness

[keith6110]

where did you buy those lifters!? Looking good!

[Skyforger]

Skyforger likes this thread.

[beam514]

oh boy this is going to be cool :)

[Jasmine]

where did you buy those lifters!? Looking good!

Guy here in NZ sells them, here's the auction we won it from:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=405129538

This is what we picked up today, unfortunately most performance shops aren't open on a Saturday afternoon...and the one which was didn't have the oil cooler stuff we were after (not for another two weeks apparently) so this was it.

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/297925_10150284146787104_708172103_7902234_4761660 61_n.jpg

[oakrdrs187]

This my dear is function over form (I guess pink pulleys give it form, LoL.), far apart from Carbon fiber vinyl wraps.

[Jasmine]

As I said, I don't like the carbon fibre myself, so you won't catch me with it :P

And didn't you know? Pink adds the extra HP lol.

I'm excited to feel how the end product drives at any rate!

[omegaht]

hell yeah!! wana see that engine working !!

[Jasmine]

hell yeah!! wana see that engine working !!

Believe me, so do I! I'll take vids of it running, we're hoping to get the whole thing done by next year. We just gotta get heads skimmed and acid dipped, rocker covers painted and custom manifolds made by someone else, the rest we can pick up and/or do ourselves, so once those things have been done, it'll be a fairly quick process. Just finding GOOD people to do those things!

[XxGiRLaNT06xX]

Nice work Jasmine! i LOVE the pink lol

[Jasmine]

Nice work Jasmine! i LOVE the pink lol

Thanks, it's actually surprising how many guys say this as well when they're shown under the engine bay currently! Haha

[Jasmine]

New head bolts.

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/296951_290138637668416_100000168472916_1468447_180 8328433_n.jpg

Heads stripped

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/305106_290138687668411_100000168472916_1468448_179 2915268_n.jpg

New gasket set

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/293594_290138721001741_100000168472916_1468449_716 572501_n.jpg

[RedGalant2k1]

oh nice, should be a monster!

[djhah]

I can not wait, good luck!

[Jasmine]

Good to know people in the industry!

Heads are off to be acid dipped and skimmed tomorrow lunchtime.

Gotta take the engine to a guy in Huntly who'll make the custom manifolds. He did the work on this car which is a car my partner also worked intensively on (single turbo Supra):

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[Jasmine]

Heads have now been acid dipped.

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/316883_293702007312079_100000168472916_1483235_151 162731_n.jpg

Head with valves lapped and plained

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/320389_293702083978738_100000168472916_1483237_703 456399_n.jpg

Left has been lapped, right hasn't yet.

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/314770_293702137312066_100000168472916_1483238_458 876253_n.jpg

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[djhah]

Motor in the kitchen instead of a table? That's what I'm talking about, who needs to eat when you have work to do. Roflao

[Jasmine]

Haha yeah we have a small house, and the rest of the house aside from the bathroom is carpeted, so yeah, kitchen it is! We don't have a dining room table anyways, we sit and eat in the lounge on the couch lol We had to move the fridge to make more room for the working on the motor though!

[galantlvr34]

The motor is looking good!It looks like it is just about done,nice work.

[Jasmine]

Yup, pretty much is, just gotta get the rocker covers painted, get some adjustable cam gears, oil catch can and braided lines and the manifolds made up. What I can think of off the top of my head at the moment!

[Jasmine]

Timing done and covers on


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[mko]

these are china bay turbos. i will strongly suggest that you buy 4 t3 bearings(2each) and replace the ones in the turbos. it very simple, it shouldnt take more than 10-15 per turbo. And yes, the china bay "mitsubishi" turbos use t3 shafts, and thats why you need t3 bearings

[Jasmine]

China bay? These are made and manufactured by Scarles performance...

http://scarles.co.nz/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=26_41&products_id=500

So yeah, prob best to be sure first...

[mko]

yes these are china bay turbos. the company you posted just distributes them, it says in the link.

china bay turbo tdh05h

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQAEO3ek3_hHc69JDWgf99DiR5-K_kXmQKXR31zBJjyGH0JbCiY

real mhi tdo5h

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=104439&d=1261445236

you can see the compressor housing with genuine mitsubishi serial number, where the fake one says "turbocharger" and other fake stuff.

Either way, i used one of these fake ones with replaced journal bearings (t3) for over 2 years w/o any problems.

Sorry to burst your bubble.

[Jasmine]

Umm...it isn't stamped with turbocharger either...

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/297867_10150338065017104_708172103_8196852_1499919 151_n.jpg

[99galantES]

Looking good should powder coat the valve covers

[B19WHEELS]

these are china bay turbos. i will strongly suggest that you buy 4 t3 bearings(2each) and replace the ones in the turbos. it very simple, it shouldnt take more than 10-15 per turbo. And yes, the china bay "mitsubishi" turbos use t3 shafts, and thats why you need t3 bearings

Im not here to argue turbos,but just cuase its a ebay td05 dont make it a bad turbo.. Ive had 2 friends of mine buy the same turbo from ebay and these turbos lasted for years..Both guys running over 20 psi and both guys drive there cars frequently.. I know you had her best interest in mind MKO!! Just giving my own personal experience with the ebay td05 turbo.. Do your thing Jasmine :)

[Jasmine]

I didn't purchase off Ebay either, even if I did, shipping would've been pricey and buying from a shop get a warranty! I wanted to buy from a shop for that reason and was recommended these turbos by a couple of people.

[Jasmine]

I won't be posting anymore updates to this build on here. For those that are there, you can keep an eye on my build at GT.

Thanks for my time here, but I'm done :)

[Rach3T8G]

Did something happen? i'm on GT as well so i'll be following your build over there

[wetamup2k3g]

I've never posted on GT but I'm there, I haven't attempted to "tune" the G, I feel outta place lol, but I'll be keeping up with the build, it's gonna be a nasty beast (in a good way)!


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[Jasmine]

I'll be posting updates on http://www.kittnz.co.nz