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mko
12-14-2011, 09:09 PM
Just started on the AWD and I cant get the rear axles out of the hubs. Searched around and found its either a shop press or sledge hammer type of deal.

Any smart tricks or tips?

Thanks

RedGalant2k1
12-14-2011, 09:17 PM
Problem with the hammer deal is that you could mushroom the end of the axle. I'd recommend the shop press and a little heat.

mko
12-14-2011, 09:26 PM
I hear ya. Its either save it all or destroy it all. If i had to buy new hubs at $170 each and 2 rear axles which are very hard to find these days, it will cost me about $800 in total

Exhaust power
12-14-2011, 09:28 PM
Turn it into a slide hammer if you know what i mean? if i had a pick on the type of axle i would help you improvise on removing it.


also http://www.dsmtalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=198119

Skyforger
12-14-2011, 09:42 PM
PBlaster. I'd let the axle/hub do an overnight soak in a bath of the stuff. Stuff works miracles for heavily rusted parts.

RedGalant2k1
12-14-2011, 09:50 PM
PBlaster. I'd let the axle/hub do an overnight soak in a bath of the stuff. Stuff works miracles for heavily rusted parts.

Problem with the axles on Mitsubishi is that the hub and axle are different metals, and as a result there is metal bonding that can occur. But its always worth a shot... :)

troubled4g64t
12-14-2011, 09:57 PM
What I did was soaked the shit out of them w/ pb blaster then hit it with heat and an air chisel

M-Rod
12-14-2011, 10:07 PM
Ahh, I remember this like it was yesterday even though it's been 2 years. I tried a 30-ton shop press and it broke the spindle lol. New hubs and axles were my end result.

master_visionary
12-14-2011, 10:37 PM
Cap it with a snug socket and hit the socket I have done my share of axles I use some liquid wrench and this method without fail

Yet anyways

Skyforger
12-14-2011, 10:43 PM
Problem with the axles on Mitsubishi is that the hub and axle are different metals, and as a result there is metal bonding that can occur. But its always worth a shot... :)

Had this same issue with the family's 94 Nissan Sentra hub and axle. The PBlaster bath made a huge difference.

Corey2kG
12-14-2011, 10:49 PM
Ahh, I remember this like it was yesterday even though it's been 2 years. I tried a 30-ton shop press and it broke the spindle lol. New hubs and axles were my end result.

Yeah I ended up getting new hubs n axles n since I had a core on the axles I had to cut the hubs with the torch n press them out. So new hubs n axles are your best bet.

DOHCstunr
12-14-2011, 11:26 PM
Just hit it with a mapp gas torch. Heat it up evenly but thoroughly. Walk away and let it cool. spray the heck out of it from both sides with pbblaster. Let it soak. Come back later, heat it up again. Repeat this process until it you can get it to come loose with a dead-blow hammer. Do not use a metal hammer, no good can come from it.

RAZ_76
12-15-2011, 12:07 AM
http://youtu.be/1wPOxB0p7TQ

Corey2kG
12-15-2011, 12:22 AM
http://youtu.be/1wPOxB0p7TQ

That doesnt always work.. At least for me it didnt.

w/oarctic7g
12-15-2011, 12:59 AM
I like to just put the nut on backwards so end of nut is flush with end of axle and whack it a few times with sledge. As long as you dont go crazy with that it prevents mushrooming the axle. If more stubborn than that the axle ends have a nice recess that a pencil tip bit fits nicely on using a good air hammer or electric it only takes a second or two.
Why not leave it as an assembly and slap it up there all at once?

deeznutz
12-15-2011, 05:59 AM
http://youtu.be/1wPOxB0p7TQ

That's a nifty tool !

galantboost
12-15-2011, 07:23 AM
Ahh, I remember this like it was yesterday even though it's been 2 years. I tried a 30-ton shop press and it broke the spindle lol. New hubs and axles were my end result.

similar result on my passenger side axle...i had to buy new spindle and hub...i tired heat and everything n it would not move...the axle actually broke the press machine my boy was using to get the axle out...

master_visionary
12-15-2011, 08:14 AM
Wow shout out to anyone hat still uses hand tools for their work
With elbow grease for power and determination for a battery

Maybe your broke maybe your old school

Me I'm a lil of both

But the axle nut trick works I wrote my last post a lot tired. New baby. But flip the nut put one one of those circle battery terminal pad things trimmed on it THEN cap it with a socket and put your back into it

qnz
12-15-2011, 08:26 AM
put a nut on the axel when you hit it so that you dont mushroom the head

DOHCstunr
12-15-2011, 10:05 AM
http://youtu.be/1wPOxB0p7TQ

I recommend wearing hearing protection when beating the shit out of things with a hammer. Unlike that guy.

mko
12-15-2011, 12:41 PM
If something is to be damaged, Id rather buy just one thing - either axles or hubs

troubled4g64t
12-17-2011, 07:57 AM
Personally I would replace the hubs anyhow since that's also the bearing and has good now's what for miles

troubled4g64t
12-17-2011, 08:05 AM
Also when heating it up the trick is to apply the heat to the hub only so that it only expands they are dissimilar metals like our motors the block and head expanded at different rates if you heat the axle it may expand and lock itself in even thighter.

RAZ_76
12-17-2011, 10:59 AM
I recommend wearing hearing protection when beating the shit out of things with a hammer. Unlike that guy.

Wait what, whats that, huh? :jestera:

DOHCstunr
12-17-2011, 11:33 AM
Also when heating it up the trick is to apply the heat to the hub only so that it only expands they are dissimilar metals like our motors the block and head expanded at different rates if you heat the axle it may expand and lock itself in even thighter.

I disagree completely. The key is breaking the bond. If you heat the axle and let it cool the expansion will break the rust. If you heat the hub, you risk damaging the bearing or the lubricant inside of it.

mko
12-19-2011, 07:41 PM
Both axles are out, but I need two axles and a hub. If someone is going to the yard I will appreciate it if you looked for AWD 2g and see what it has.

master_visionary
12-19-2011, 09:16 PM
What method did you use

mko
12-19-2011, 09:18 PM
beating the shit out of it with a sledge hammer method.....after everything else failed

deeznutz
12-19-2011, 09:27 PM
Dead blow works every time.. Lube those suckers up with grease when you put it back together it keeps the moisture out and shouldn't happen again..