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vbquad
04-17-2003, 02:42 AM
hear is the link!
http://www.autonews.com/files/ny2003/mitsu...su/galant/1.htm ('http://www.autonews.com/files/ny2003/mitsu/galant/1.htm')

http://www.autonews.com/images/random/nyshow2003/mitsubishi/galant/galanta.jpg
Mitsubishi's plan for its redesigned 2004 Galant sedan is ambitious: 100,000 sales a year, making it the best selling Mitsubishi in North America.

Toward that end, Mitsubishi Motors North America Inc. said it would sell four trim lines -- DE, ES, LS and GTS. Its most basic model will start at less than $19,000.
http://www.autonews.com/images/random/nyshow2003/mitsubishi/galant/galantb.jpg
The 2004 Galant, unveiled at the New York auto show on Wednesday, will feature two engine options: A 160-hp 2.4-liter and a 3.8-liter V-6 engine that produces 230 hp and 250 ft. lb. of torque.

http://www.autonews.com/images/random/nyshow2003/mitsubishi/galant/galant1.jpg
The redesigned 2004 Galant sedan, which is the second vehicle developed off Mitsubishi Motors' mid-sized Project America platform.

http://www.autonews.com/images/random/nyshow2003/mitsubishi/galant/galant2.jpg
The new Galant will be larger than the current model. Sales begin in late fall.

details:
Toward that end, Mitsubishi Motors North America Inc. said it would sell four trim lines -- DE, ES, LS and GTS. Its most basic model will start at less than $19,000.

The 2004 Galant, unveiled at the New York auto show on Wednesday, will feature two engine options: a 160-hp 2.4-liter and a 3.8-liter V-6 engine that produces 230 hp and 250 ft. lb. of torque. The Galant DE, with the 2.4-liter engine and automatic transmission, is expected to start at less than $19,000, the automaker said.

The Galant ES, expected to start at less than $20,000, includes cruise control and upgraded interior lighting.

Mitsubishi starts offering the V-6 with the Galant LS, which has a Sportronic automatic/manual transmission and traction control. The LS will start at less than $22,000.

The Galant GTS features a mesh sport grille, custom taillights and 17-inch alloy wheels. It also has a leather-trimmed interior, a premium audio system, and a color information display in the upper center dash panel.
The new design has a more spacious interior than its predecessor, Mitsubishi said.

The new Galant was designed in California and engineered in Michigan and Japan. It will be built in Illinois.

Length: more than 190 inches
Width: 72.4 inches
Wheelbase: 108.3 inches

Mazarin
04-17-2003, 03:43 AM
http://koti.mbnet.fi/cyrus/images/crap.jpg

T.S.
04-17-2003, 04:04 AM
I think it's big and fugly lookin', I won't be buying another galant :roll:

I have already been thinking of trading off the one I have as soon as im not upside down on my loan anymore, I want more power and a manual transmission, I didn't think I would miss shifting, but I do :?

seth98esT
04-17-2003, 04:15 AM
Maz pretty much summed it up
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mazarin)</div><div class='quotemain'>http://koti.mbnet.fi/cyrus/images/crap.jpg</div>
well that kind of ruins TGCs future :cry:

only people that will buy that are 70 year old grandpas :roll:

and how in the world do they think that "THING" will be the best selling car of Mitsu America?!?!?!? Mitsus screwed up before, ok many times, but this is just about the last straw.

They put some descent power into both the v6 and i4, but that nose! it hidious! looks just like the newer diamantes noses, just uglier...

o yah, and how much does the 9g weigh? 5000lbs? sure looks like it...

[/rant]

!BONG!
04-17-2003, 06:58 AM
After the 18th, I think there should be another Photoshop contest, but use one of the above pics. Seriously!

Lazarus
04-17-2003, 07:09 AM
Ewww......get it off, get it off......yuck

balln8g
04-17-2003, 08:41 AM
:pukey: Thank god I wasn't planning on buying a 9G as my next car.

Initial -G-host
04-17-2003, 08:53 AM
That pretty much confirms i'll be keeping my 7g. I am very disappointed....the design looks like another Altima,Maxima, and Accord. Well....imma hug my 7g https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif

QnzMostWanted
04-17-2003, 09:26 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Initial -G-host)</div><div class='quotemain'> Well....imma hug my 7g https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif</div>

AMEN

Sarah
04-17-2003, 09:44 AM
As I said in the other topic...I like it, and will seriously consider purchasing one wehn Todd and I get our finances together

Initial -G-host
04-17-2003, 09:59 AM
Don't get me wrong...I am sure Mitsubishi refined the 9g to be directly competative to the Accord, Altima, Mazda 6 and even the Camry. I am just very disappointed on the design....especially the Galant was known from being more a refreshing designed car in the Midsize car catagory through the past years....but the 9g just looks like another spinoff the Altima,Maxima,Accord and Camry body. Plus...I am not feeling the fact the Midsize car catagory is getting bigger and heavier.

toc8g
04-17-2003, 01:43 PM
Well I am buying it!!! I like it! :thumbsup: I have always liked all models Galants. I am keeping the 8G and will have a new 9G!! HAHAHA!! Guys I am a Galant Lover!! Not just a 8G lover or 7G Lover!! https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif

BlueESV6
04-17-2003, 02:18 PM
Is it my imagination or are the cars getting larger? Seems like it's migrating towards the larger side of mid size....

Proud Galant Driver
04-17-2003, 03:02 PM
nothing a little body kit can't fix. someone should photoshop something onto it.

T.S.
04-17-2003, 03:15 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Initial -G-host)</div><div class='quotemain'>Don't get me wrong...I am sure Mitsubishi refined the 9g to be directly competative to the Accord, Altima, Mazda 6 and even the Camry. I am just very disappointed on the design....especially the Galant was known from being more a refreshing designed car in the Midsize car catagory through the past years....but the 9g just looks like another spinoff the Altima,Maxima,Accord and Camry body. Plus...I am not feeling the fact the Midsize car catagory is getting bigger and heavier.</div>

I would drive a Mazda 6 before that thing any day, its not that huge and comes in a 5 speed :?

I once had a '89 Mazda 626 with a 5 speed and I loved it, it ran forever, it had 270,000 miles on it when I finally got rid of it and it still ran great.

Titanium2K2
04-17-2003, 04:03 PM
I don't know why everyone is bashing the new Galant. I think everyone is getting the impression that the Galant is supposed to be a sports car with superior aerodynamics and asphalt tearing hp. Wake up everybody it's not. It's classified as a mid sized family sedan. There's nothing sporty about a midsize car unless you go up an upper class model ( GTZ, GTS, TYPE S, SE, ETC) and pretty much all you get with that is a firmer suspension, sometimes larger wheels and a slight hp increase.
The interior looks good imo, though it sort of resembles the endeaver in a way. There's defintely more room to accomodate more people. The Altima set the standard for midsize sedans as far as power and size and others followed suit. It was pretty obvious that Mitsubishi had to come up with a bigger and stronger car to compete with the likes of Honda, Toyota, and Nissan. Although the grill design looks the designers took off the endeaver's front end and slapped it on the galant, there's always a front end kit that can easily replace that. Personally, I like it and seriously considering it or the Endeavor as our next vehicle. That's my .02

Jimmy

manybrews
04-17-2003, 04:20 PM
I like it.
a lot.

except for the "beak" nose that mitsu is placing on all its cars, it looks great to me.

also, the 3.8 is a hella nice engine. And the chassis (which is currently being used for the endeavor) is outstanding. easily the nicest domestically produced mitsu ever in terms of N.V.H and strength.

Kalamidad
04-17-2003, 04:30 PM
i need to test drive it to make up my mind on it.

VegasMatt
04-17-2003, 04:33 PM
Needs a new front end.

Ghost Beat
04-17-2003, 04:39 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(VegasMatt)</div><div class='quotemain'>Needs a new Â*front end.</div>

needs a whole new body the engine ill keep tough.

Dilemma
04-17-2003, 04:41 PM
eep. Nice new features.

HiperSilver
04-17-2003, 05:52 PM
shit, that car is a disgrace, change the name to diamante and itll pass,

First its too big, the back end goes up to far and too high, frotn end is ugly. 3.8 capable of 230 horse? Damn Mitsu is using the Domestic theory of up the displacement if you want make power with a smaller motor. and 250 torque is pathetic.

Tiller
04-17-2003, 09:58 PM
not sure what all the hateing is about... it looks pretty decent... and you got more power which is what everyone was bitching about...

I'm sure none of you fucktards were planning on getting one anyhow... so quit your fuckin whineing... :roll:

T.S.
04-17-2003, 10:07 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tiller)</div><div class='quotemain'>I'm sure none of you fucktards were planning on getting one anyhow... so quit your fuckin whineing... Â*:roll:</div>

such a wonderful attitude :roll:

HiperSilver
04-17-2003, 11:13 PM
sorry 80 year old man, if you like go buy, i personaly hate it. did it really need .8 more displacement to get a bump in horsepower. Mitsu is slackin on the engines biiiiiig time. Instead of building a bigger engine, try make some potential out of the v6 or i4, aka better tuning, DOHC, better trans, tons of potential, just build the engine a little. God forbid mitsu builds a trans , last thing we need them doing. if i remmeber correctly i have a broken 7g waiting to be built for nitrous and boost, hopefully then i wont have to deal with another broken ass trans. only car they got going for them is the EVO 8, and thats all

Tiller
04-17-2003, 11:18 PM
i agree they could have tuned the current 3.0 to get more power from it, but Mitsu is not on the steadiest of ground, and it's more cost effective to swap a motor that they already have...

I will NEVER buy another Mitsu again... not that i do not like my Galant, i'm just ready for something alot more expensive the next time around... and once you buy a 50,000 car, you pretty much have the opportunity to keep buying in the price range, cause those cars tend to hold their value alot better than the mid range cars, (especially Mitsu)...

toc8g
04-18-2003, 03:45 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(T.S.)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tiller)</div><div class='quotemain'>I'm sure none of you fucktards were planning on getting one anyhow... so quit your fuckin whineing... Â*:roll:</div>

such a wonderful attitude :roll:</div>

Sounds like everyone elses attitude about the 9G https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif

Sarah
04-18-2003, 09:59 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tiller)</div><div class='quotemain'>not sure what all the hateing is about... it looks pretty decent... and you got more power which is what everyone was bitching about...

I'm sure none of you fucktards were planning on getting one anyhow... so quit your fuckin whineing... Â*:roll:</div>

I agree with Tiller on this one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

well, you guys aren't fucktards though, but its more powerful, quit a bit, then what ours all came with stock

Rasko Da Gama
04-18-2003, 11:18 AM
:scary: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

What is "the profit" of more powerfull engine if the car looks so funny?
I can't imagine myself driving with this 5000lbs "Elephatnt like" - VAN :nope:
No, seriously... I think this is a risky step that MMC did. Galants are writen in auto history as very popular and reliable family sedans, offering many "goodies" and the most important thing - the are really beautifull cars, all G's....... :arrow: :idea: Till now... MMC made diferent deisgned and shaped car, and with so many doubts allready, just here on TGC, then it's future is no longer a secret...

But we can help https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif !
We can Photoshop the car :8G:

:rockon:

Auto-9
04-18-2003, 12:50 PM
Well then again I remember when the redesigned nose for the 02 Galants came out...it was slammed initially and then people grew to liking it. Same with the Altima...it grew on (some) people. I'm sure for every 10 that hates the 9g, 1 will love it.

Faction
04-18-2003, 12:55 PM
i like the interior, but the steering wheel is ugly

Tiller
04-18-2003, 02:35 PM
you guys are too much... 5000lb van...? really, c'mon now... i'm sure it hasn't gained any weight besides what the larger engine added...

in a year 90% of these people bashing it, will have changed their tune...

seth98esT
04-18-2003, 03:10 PM
i just made the 5000lb comment cause it looks like its built like a tank https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif

i dunno, the more i look at it the more it looks "ok" i just really want to see it in person.

manybrews
04-18-2003, 04:58 PM
jesus, people... i have to say that most of you dont have a clue!

Mitsu was in the red for YEARS producing small, turbocharged AWD cars.. people rave about them, and no one bought them.

You know why these cars are being built the way they are? because people are FINALLY buying them.
230 HP is fine, and the 250 ft-lbs of torque is what people are gonna notice.
High tech, screaming revs, 6 speed autos... these are nice things that NO ONE buys.
People like big and simple for the most part.

HiperSilver
04-18-2003, 07:13 PM
if your old you like big and simple.

manybrews
04-18-2003, 07:44 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(HiperSilver)</div><div class='quotemain'>if your old you like big and simple.</div>
no, if you buy you like big and simple.

Remember, ive worked for mitsu for almost 11 years.. and NO ONE bought the small, sporty cars they had.
and at one time, almost EVERY car they sold had a turbo version, and a lot had AWD versions.
the starion was turbocharged... and barely sold.
the cordia/tredia had a turbo version.. and barely sold.
the mirage had a turbo version.. and barely sold.
the eclipse and galant.. turbos, and although more of these sold than others, they STILL barely scratched the market.
the 3000GT.. the non turbo outsold the turbo 3 to 1.
the list keeps going and going.
The turbo AWD eclipse (the best selling mitsu turbo car ever) accounted for 4 percent of the total eclipse sales.. not worth it by any means, if you look at the bottom line (especially if you figure in the fact that the turbo AWD cars cost 30 percent more on a warranty basis).
There are PLENTY of small sporty cars on the market if thats what you want. However, youll notice that there are very few of these suckers on the road.

For the most part, todays consumers want SUVs. They like big, and thats what they buy.

toc8g
04-18-2003, 10:07 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(manybrews)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(HiperSilver)</div><div class='quotemain'>if your old you like big and simple.</div>
no, if you buy you like big and simple.

Remember, ive worked for mitsu for almost 11 years.. and NO ONE bought the small, sporty cars they had.
and at one time, almost EVERY car they sold had a turbo version, and a lot had AWD versions.
the starion was turbocharged... and barely sold.
the cordia/tredia had a turbo version.. and barely sold.
the mirage had a turbo version.. and barely sold.
the eclipse and galant.. turbos, and although more of these sold than others, they STILL barely scratched the market.
the 3000GT.. the non turbo outsold the turbo 3 to 1.
the list keeps going and going.
The turbo AWD eclipse (the best selling mitsu turbo car ever) accounted for 4 percent of the total eclipse sales.. not worth it by any means, if you look at the bottom line (especially if you figure in the fact that the turbo AWD cars cost 30 percent more on a warranty basis).
There are PLENTY of small sporty cars on the market if thats what you want. However, youll notice that there are very few of these suckers on the road.

For the most part, todays consumers want SUVs. They like big, and thats what they buy.</div>

Its good to have someone with knowledge on the board like Manybrews,.. even if we don't all always agree. Your knowledge of Mitsubishi is something I have learned to trust.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>if your old you like big and simple.</div>
Old aint got nothing to do with it. If you have a Galant most people think its a grocery getter already! :roll:

2 LOW 4 A FAT HOE
04-19-2003, 06:21 AM
Actually, the interior and the rear is pretty sweet, but the front needs approvements. Put a body kit on it and a new hood and it would look sweet. Here is the links of the rear and the interior
']http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www...i.galant/ ('http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/2003/newyork/04.mitsubishi.galant/[/url)

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www...subishi.galant/ ('http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/2003/newyork/04.mitsubishi.galant/') [/url]

HeadAche
04-20-2003, 04:55 PM
i dont think the 9G will have any aftermarket support, unlike the new Maxima which is going to be sick..

roman
04-20-2003, 06:40 PM
everytime any company comes up with a new, or redesigned, model of car, there are complains
IMO 2K4 Galant looks pretty good and just as good as any other "remodeled" car on the market
give it a few years and people won't even think about our 6 and 7G's and will think that 9G is the bomb compared with 10G(if there will be one)

I can speak from my own experience, in a way, I like 95-99 Eclipses over the new ones, actualy, I think that new eclipses from 2K and on are the ugliest cars on the road after new Mini and Cadilac CTS ... aside from point, it took me little bit of time to get used to new Eclipses and now I can look at them(hey it's a start https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif )

so give it some time, most of "remodeled" cars spring these talks of how ugly they are

in a way, I think it is better when companies remodel older cars and give them new names: like new Nissan 300ZX is no longer 300ZX and now is 350 and list goes on

I guess my point is, most of us are used to the older versions of cars, so it will take most people some time to "adjust" to new or remodeled versions of older cars; or, to make it beter on consumers, it's beter for companies to remodel and give new name to an older car

mbssbm
04-20-2003, 09:38 PM
with a 230hp V6 I'm thinking engine swap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif maybe it won't be so bad after all.

bstnsportsfan
04-21-2003, 05:13 PM
The 9G looks alright. I wouldn't buy one though, not because the way it looks, just because I would never buy another mitsubishi. Resale value on mitsubishi is among the worst and ranks right up there with Ford, Kia and other junk cars.

Manybrews, I see what your saying. Most of the people that buy cars wants what mitsu is designing. Makes perfect sense to me. I know I see a ton of 8gs on the road....But when is Mitsu going to compete with Honda & Toyota for reliability and resale value! I know that is something I should have paid attention to when I bought my galant. Although I have had no out of ordinary repair costs, but car is worth basically nothing! It discourages me from every buying a mitsubishi unless it is worth some money after a year of owning it...

If I was going to look at another car right now for mid 20s, I would be buying an Accord EX Coupe V6 or Camry Solara...just my IMO.

Dominicano
04-21-2003, 05:27 PM
nothing a little body kit can't fix. someone should photoshop something onto it.

with our 8g since it debuted in 99 still dont have a bolt on kit. and they sure is not making one for the 9G anytime soon.

anfield
05-19-2003, 11:38 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bstnsportsfan)</div><div class='quotemain'>The 9G looks alright. I wouldn't buy one though, not because the way it looks, just because I would never buy another mitsubishi. Resale value on mitsubishi is among the worst and ranks right up there with Ford, Kia and other junk cars. Â*

Manybrews, I see what your saying. Most of the people that buy cars wants what mitsu is designing. Makes perfect sense to me. I know I see a ton of 8gs on the road....But when is Mitsu going to compete with Honda & Toyota for reliability and resale value! I know that is something I should have paid attention to when I bought my galant. Although I have had no out of ordinary repair costs, but car is worth basically nothing! It discourages me from every buying a mitsubishi unless it is worth some money after a year of owning it...

If I was going to look at another car right now for mid 20s, I would be buying an Accord EX Coupe V6 or Camry Solara...just my IMO.</div>

I would wait 1 or 2 year for used galant. I just can't stand to see the resale value drop like this.

toc8g
05-19-2003, 04:02 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bstnsportsfan)</div><div class='quotemain'>The 9G looks alright. I wouldn't buy one though, not because the way it looks, just because I would never buy another mitsubishi. Resale value on mitsubishi is among the worst and ranks right up there with Ford, Kia and other junk cars. Â*

Manybrews, I see what your saying. Most of the people that buy cars wants what mitsu is designing. Makes perfect sense to me. I know I see a ton of 8gs on the road....But when is Mitsu going to compete with Honda & Toyota for reliability and resale value! I know that is something I should have paid attention to when I bought my galant. Although I have had no out of ordinary repair costs, but car is worth basically nothing! It discourages me from every buying a mitsubishi unless it is worth some money after a year of owning it...

If I was going to look at another car right now for mid 20s, I would be buying an Accord EX Coupe V6 or Camry Solara...just my IMO.</div>

1. Are you saying we all bought and have junk cars!?
2. I could care less about resale value because I am keeping it, I don't work my ass off to buy a car and turn around and trade it in for someone else to make money off it. I keep it. Something that cost that amount of money I am keeping forever! As far as my 2000 Galant I hade no problems I never had to take it in while it was under warrenty,..ever. I was completely satisfied. The Car held up well and saved my life when it needed too. So but I think al cars have their problems its just we don't see them because we don't give them as much attention as we do Mitsubishi. Kinda like people who say Dell is better then Gateway or Gateway is better then Dell!!??? Same fucking thing...just different day.

Xavier22
05-19-2003, 04:12 PM
and i agree w/ ya toc 110%, if i got it, i 'm keeping my 02g forever until its paid for 3 years down the road!!! i simply love it, although i wished for a v6, but i'm fine w/ my 4!! nuff said

Censee
05-26-2003, 10:50 PM
not sure what all the hateing is about... it looks pretty decent... and you got more power which is what everyone was bitching about...

I'm sure none of you fucktards were planning on getting one anyhow... so quit your fuckin whineing... :roll:


AAHHHH!!!!! good ol' Tiller,,,,,his replies never seem to amaze me one bit....wel,,like Tillersaid it does have more power... :? :?

Gilhuly
05-27-2003, 12:26 PM
If you want to buy a Galant, get a 99 or 2000 V6 for 8-10 grand and put the blower and built tranny, headers on.

The way to buy a Mitsubishi is used. They are good equipment, underappreciated in the marketplace because Mitsubishi does stupid stuff like snap on hose clamps and some lady's car starts dripping radiator fluid and overheating at 30k.

2000GTZ
07-10-2003, 03:24 PM
IMO: Style comes with generation.

Music: My parents can't stand hip-hop/rock/anything besides oldies.
Clothes: I can't get my parents to wear clothes that are newer than 80's style.
Car: My parent's love blocky cars. Roundness is a weakness to them. It could roll forever!

There are generations of cars for a reason, to defiene the meaning of a generation! New generations are different from the past (7g and 8g for example: I don't like the 7g style much, probably because I am younger and more attracted to new styles such as the 8g) The thing now is for generations to work together and establish a link somehow. Consider the 9g as a kid, and the older generations as it's daddy. It can learn much, no?

(to some people this post may make no sense at all. haha. it probably all came out wrong for it to be comprehensible)

escoson
07-10-2003, 03:31 PM
good way to drag a post out of a 2 month coma! https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif

(im sure ppl are gonna get on this topic again)

VuteqMitsubishiGalantGTZ0
07-10-2003, 10:13 PM
Some of you may know that the 99-03 Galants were build on the ST platform. The generation or model is an ST-41 (ex:Z-28;z-24) Well the new platform is the PS platform. This platform will be the platform for all vehicles made at MMNA in Normal, IL. This includes the PS-U (Endeavor), PS-24 (Eclipse), PS-28 (Eclipse Syder), PS-22 (Dodge status 2dr & Chrysler Seibring 2dr) Models. Including the possibility of the Diamante being places on this platform, or replacing the Diamante all together and making just Galants. So the galant will share the same V6 as the Endeavor. The eclipse in 2005 will share the same engine as the galant as well. So this is the reason for the style change and size of the platform.

Billy

StealthGTZ
07-26-2003, 11:04 PM
What a POS. (Piece of shit)

I'm glad I found a '01 GTZ because I wouldn't buy the 9G on the best
day it ever had.
I'd rather buy a Mazda 6 or wait till '05 when (if) Ford gets their thumb out
and builds the '05 Mustang concept car.

I wonder if the Mitsu bean counters were hitting the crack pipe when they
decided they could sell 100k of these POS. :roll:

Khopari
07-26-2003, 11:08 PM
Umm Come on Guys its not that bad..... Okay i gave up it is that bad.