my Mirage project

[2002BlackDragon]

Hey guys, as some of you know I sold my 8g and bought a van and got a mirage for free. This post is fount to be about my progress on the mirage. Its a 1999, has a 1.5, and has just over 133,*** on the clock. I plan on doing the 4g64 swap and going dohc and going Turbo with a 5 speed swap to boot. And then going all evolution 5 OEM body panels to finish her out. I'm really hoping that since I am moving again I'll be able to start Modding the way I want to soon. I will have to take it to a body shop cause the trunk is a little busted in, so I guess it depends on how much that will run me first
Lol. Ill keep y'all posted.

[oakrdrs187]

Wheres "Before" pics?

[2002BlackDragon]

This stupid gay ass piece of shit phone wont let me copy from photobucket!!! I hate this phone.

[Skyforger]

Sounds like a fun project. The Evo V & VI are my favorite Evos. Going AWD, too?

[2002BlackDragon]

http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff427/fabled_mitsu/Snapbucket/007BC4FA-orig.jpg

http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff427/fabled_mitsu/Snapbucket/B93D0774-orig.jpg

[2002BlackDragon]

http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff427/fabled_mitsu/Snapbucket/034E83E6-orig.jpg

[2002BlackDragon]

I might eventually go awd, but prob not for a while... if ever.

[oakrdrs187]

The trunk doesn't look too bad.

[foxbrand]

nice pick up

I have to say it, the Mirage is Mitsubishi's civic, only vastly more neglected from the aftermarket

[bgood12]

Don't forget to look up mirage performance and go their tech articles page. If you need mirage manuals lemme know ill look up the site that has them.

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[wetamup2k3g]

I've been on that Mirage forum that Denver posted a link to in your other thread, going AWD is a serious $$$ commitment in this platform, as you need the Evo trunk pan to do it right. Those guys seem to order Evo clips from overseas to the tune of $6K to get OEM panels, Evo AWD drivetrain and engine and body harnesses, the last being crucial if you do the RHD swap if you keep the Evo dash. Although, with a 2Dr, you may not have any recourse but aftermarket fiberglas parts for the rear quarter, i'm not sure. Either way, I'll be watching, I really wanna do something like this someday with a Mirage, I love the Evo 5's! Good luck!

[bgood12]

If you don't have it also maybe get caps with Japanese passcode so you can look up part #s you need.

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[QnzMostWanted]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mitsubishi-Lancer-Evolution-4-IV-Mirage-JDM-Front-End-Bumper-Fender-Hood-Lights-/350567571296?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item519f749f60&vxp=mtr#ht_11249wt_1163

and

http://www.ebay.com/itm/JDM-Mitsubishi-Lancer-EVO-5-VI-V-CP9A-Bumper-evolution-/360447876240?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item53ec5e1c90&vxp=mtr#ht_2172wt_1396

[QnzMostWanted]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/JDM-Mitsubishi-Lancer-boot-lid-EVO-4-5-6-Spoiler-CP9A-set-evolution-iv-vi-v-/260821879677?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cba320b7d&vxp=mtr#ht_2284wt_1396

and


http://www.ebay.com/itm/JDM-Mitsubishi-Lancer-EVO-5-evolution-V-side-skirt-6-vi-/360278882874?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item53e24b7a3a&vxp=mtr#ht_2104wt_1396

and

http://www.ebay.com/itm/JDM-98-02-Evolution-EVO-4-5-6-CP9A-Rear-Fender-Flares-OEM-/190650990786?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2c63af40c2&vxp=mtr

lol evo conversion done lmao

[QnzMostWanted]

sorry got carried away

[wetamup2k3g]

^^Wow! So there you have it, get to converting! LOL

[2002BlackDragon]

Actually, they only thing that I wasn't already watch on eBay was the front end conversion. I wish I had the cash now so I could get this. I guess that's my motivation to sell the dolphin, vr4 rear, cyber skirts, s7 gauges, and anything else I hae been hording. Lol

[Armageddon Sunset]

nice freebie, always liked the mirage. Was looking for a coupe before I ended up with the galant. I really wished we got the mirage cyborg over here, or even the FTO.

[Skyforger]

I'd kill to have an Evo V or VI.

Good luck with the project, glad to see TGC is still a bad influence with budget spending. lol

[2002BlackDragon]

Yeah. Lol. And the truck has alit of damage under the bumper. I'm hoping its not frame damage.

[2002BlackDragon]

In the pic you can see the bungie cord holding the trunk closed... that's cause its pushed in and wont latch now.

[98mgalant]

Those side skirts will have to be shortened won't they? Since the Evo is four door and your marage is two. Idk just a thought.

[QnzMostWanted]

yeah i beleive for the 2door they shorten the sides a bit...i doubt it would be the same as the 4door in lenght

[2002BlackDragon]

Lol... Idk yet... but that's all in the details. Need the more important stuff first. Lol

[QnzMostWanted]

i think my next project might be a mirage :-p

[keith6110]

put the 3.8 mivec in that bitch! The 3.0 has been done before.

[johnygezony]

Jesus that would be fast

[Black8GV6]

Take the "MI" off the trunk emblem so it reads "RAGE" lol

[mrg7243]

put the 3.8 mivec in that bitch! The 3.0 has been done before.

It has already been done too

[2002BlackDragon]

I think ill leave it as a 4banger... if I want a 6 ill go with the 6a13tt... lol

[bgood12]

Here is another article to make u drool the mirage cyborg r

Http://autospeed.com/cms/A_108381/article.html



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[QnzMostWanted]

is the Mirage auto or manual?

[bgood12]

The one in the article is manual I don't know about his.

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[2002BlackDragon]

Awesome read....

Mine is an auto.... shamefully. Lol

[bgood12]

Its a article called mnountain of mivecs and it says that cyborg also came with 4 speed auto and a next gen of the engine got more torque by 2 with the auto. So u might be ok.

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[bgood12]

Hers is what I was looking for the mitsubishi 4g9x engine guide. 1.5 to 2 liter fours with mivec, cylinder deactivation gdi and turbos.

http://autospeed.com/cms/A_2977/srticle.html



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[2002BlackDragon]

I just made a short ram intake for the car. Next I'm gonna do the exhaust and then work on the looks.... fixing the trunk and stuff.

[2002BlackDragon]

Well, I think i might just nix this project and try to buy another G.... Miss that car too much. lol

[2002BlackDragon]

Ok... so since im on the fence about this i have been toying many thoughts and plans around. And i must admit that the idea of the 3.8 mivec really has my blood pumping now. I have no idea how it would even work in there or what trans to go with or anything. But that motor is what has made me fall in love with the 9g Ralliart and i just know that it will be monstrous in that little car.

So what do you guys think?

2.4 with the 3g 5speed tranny w/ DOHC and turbo
or
3.8 Mivec with whatever tranny ( not sure on the mods to it yet... not on the up-to-up with my 9g mods)


Oh, and still planning on EVO5 body

[dknight3]

if you have the skills do the 3.8, but its going to be a lot more work as far as custom fabrication.

[johnygezony]

Fix It up, Clean it up, Sell it. Get 8g again

[2002BlackDragon]

Lol... thought that too Johny.

[mysticj]

2.4L or 3.8L, either way its going be torque happy. The 3.8 is done for drag racing.

[2002BlackDragon]

Well, after talking to a buddy of mine we decided that the 4banger turbo is the way to go. Now i just dont know what direction i should go in...

***2.4 from the 8g/3g and DOHC and turbo
***4g63t from an Evo8
***4g63t from 2g Eclipse/VR4 galant

I just dont know which is better to build into a reliable street car. Im looking for a good 250-300 hp. My buddy says that since it will be built from the ground up and everything replaced that the 8g/3g 2.4 build would be the best one. What do you guys think?

[johnygezony]

Hmm well you can get your hands on a ton of DSM parts for dirt cheap if you go with a 6 or a 7 bolt 4g63. What is the easiest to fit in?

[2002BlackDragon]

From what i gather the 2.4 fits in there well... Im still trying to gather all of the info... just soo much going on.

[wetamup2k3g]

I thought I read that 4G64 bottom ends are cheaper to source, and with the bump in displacement, if you turbo it with a DOHC head, it should be nice and torquey. That's what I'd do if I had a 4-cyl to build. One of the guys with an actual built motor can probably tell you the pros and cons with each of your options better than I can though.

[Rach3T8G]

I say built 4G64 DOHC N/A

[2002BlackDragon]

I think the 64 is the way to go...

[IVORY_G]

I vote for the 64

[mysticj]

Get the G4JS from Hyundai/Kia: It's 2.4L, it has a DOHC head already, it's cheaper to get as you have to spent money on getting the 4G64 AND DOHC head. The only major mod to get the G4JS in the mirage is swapping the driver side engine mount and engine mount bracket.

[2002BlackDragon]

I tihnk ill just stick with what i know and have researched...4g64

All the engine mods i ever wanted to do to the 8g can be done to this one. Think Ill go that route.

[2002BlackDragon]

So an insane person asked me since i have the Dolphin front and wasnt using it why i just didnt mod it to fit the RAGE.... Crazy right!? but now its got me thinking if there is a slight chance that it would be close enough to look decent. Any takes on this? Id rather sell it and buy a motor or some Evo5 parts... but the seed has been planted....

[johnygezony]

My guess is that the bumper will be to wide and will look strange.

[2002BlackDragon]

Thinking about selling it now....

[2002BlackDragon]

Well... its posted for sale. Wish me luck...

[2002BlackDragon]

Well, after some time of letting people jerk me around on selling of the car I plan on going ahead and keeping the car and beginning to mod it. Have some plans for the exhaust, but still waiting for a few more things...

http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff427/fabled_mitsu/IMG_20120627_214256.jpg
http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff427/fabled_mitsu/IMG_20120627_214312.jpg
http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff427/fabled_mitsu/IMG_20120627_214236.jpg

And let me just get every ones take on this......

http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff427/fabled_mitsu/IMG_20120628_154502.jpg

Its just an idea... toying something that was suggested... What do you guys think?

[wetamup2k3g]

If you got fiberglass skills I say go for it, I think it'll look dope if done right!

[2002BlackDragon]

Thanks man. I was kinda thinking the same thing. Just think I laughed when I first heard the suggestion. Lol

[2002BlackDragon]

So I think i might attempt some body work on the trunk and see if i can get it to latch on its own and get rid of the damned tie down strap. Ill take some before and after shots of it... if i get to it tomorrow... might be too drunk to mess with it. lol

And is Greg the only person that has input on the bumper? I think it could look really nice if done correctly, but wanted to get y'alls take on it. I figured i could use it since nobody was interested in buying it.

[Skyforger]

The front bumper doesn't look right to me... IMO, I wouldn't chop up that G bumper, you'd have an easier time with an actual Evo V or VI front bumper (used or aftermarket).

That muffler does look nice, but holy shit it's long! You sure there's enough space to fuckig in nicely under there?

[2002BlackDragon]

Lol... I'm not really sure if it will fit. But I got a good deal on it. And I was going to go with an Evo V front, but I need to sell the dolphin to buy it... and since nobody is interested in it I don't have many more options.

[Skyforger]

Lol... I'm not really sure if it will fit. But I got a good deal on it. And I was going to go with an Evo V front, but I need to sell the dolphin to buy it... and since nobody is interested in it I don't have many more options.

Just gotta push that sale harder.

[2002BlackDragon]

Dropping it in price is the best I can do. And I can't really go any lower on it. Lol. And I am still suprised that I haven't sold the S-7 gauges yet. Figured it was a sure sale.

[2002BlackDragon]

So... I'm just wondering if it is possible to run the Evo head swap with out the Turbo? Or should I use the Hyundai head? I'm going to build the 2.4 and eventually Turbo it. Just might wait. Just trying to figure out parts list and all that.

[djhah]

From what I have heard / read the EVO head is better n/a as far as compression and what not but the sanota head is great for pushing lots of air into? And if I had the money I would get the bumper from you but I am broke for now :( like skyforger said don't chop up the bumper just yet shoot for something that will fit better some one will buy it just a lot of people are broke right now.

[E_Emerson88]

bumper wont fit right. considering the dimensions of car, plus the headlights are way different. not worth it IMO

[OMEGA PHX]

A little detailed but you get the idea, you can stay n/a its been done before but it won't be cost effective HP/$, you could get a evo 8 turbo to get you started since they are cheap.
Evo 8 Head Swap Parts List

Model Part Name Part Number Qty
Eclipse 2.4L Head Gasket MD332035 1
Eclipse 2.4L Timing Belt Pulley MD156604 1
Eclipse 2.4L Timing Belt Tensioner MD308086 1
Eclipse 2.4L Timing Belt Tensioner Pulley MD182537 1
Evo 8 Adjustable Cam Gear 1
Evo 8 Cam Gear Bolt MF140285 2
Evo 8 Cam Gears MD322223 1
Evo 8 Camshaft Seals MD153103 2
Evo 8 Camshaft Sensor Housing MD344722 1
Evo 8 Camshaft Sensor Housing Cover MD329502 1
Evo 8 Camshaft Sensor Housing Gasket MD329503 1
Evo 8 Coil Pack Boots MD623073 2
Evo 8 Cylinder Head Rear Seal MD372348 1
Evo 8 Dipstick MD343884 1
Evo 8 Dipstick Tube MD342319 1
Evo 8 EGR Valve MR560582 1
Evo 8 Exhaust Cam MN143620 1
Evo 8 Exhaust Valve MD184078 8
Evo 8 Fuel Pressure Regulator MD320749 1
Evo 8 Fuel Rail MR561928 1
Evo 8 Head MN155744 1
Evo 8 Intake Cam MN143619 1
Evo 8 Intake Manifold MN137746 1
Evo 8 Intake Manifold Bolt MF241256 5
Evo 8 intake manifold bolt big MF241284 1
Evo 8 Intake Manifold Bracket MR560754 1
Evo 8 Intake Manifold Bracket Bolt MF140056 2
Evo 8 Intake Manifold Gasket MD310447 1
Evo 8 Intake Manifold nut MF430122 2
Evo 8 Intake Valve MD127840 8
Evo 8 Lash Adjuster MD377054 16
Evo 8 Lower Radiator Hose MN135593 1
Evo 8 Lower Timing Belt Cover MN143079 1
Evo 8 Oil Cap MN163112 1
Evo 8 Plug Cover MD345681 1
Evo 8 Rear Water Pipe MN143306 1
Evo 8 Reluctor MD375814 1
Evo 8 Reluctor Bolt MD368730 1
Evo 8 Rocker Arm MD375091 16
Evo 8 Spark Plug Gaskets MD186785 4
Evo 8 Spark Plug Wire Set MD343245 1
Evo 8 Spark Plugs MD374841 4
Evo 8 Thermostat Housing MN143307 1
Evo 8 Throttle Body MN128975 1
Evo 8 Throttle Body Gasket MD180361 1
Evo 8 Throttle Cable MN100169 1
Evo 8 Throttle Position sensor MD628074 1
Evo 8 Timing Belt MD326059 1
Evo 8 Timing Belt Front Cover MD334401 1
Evo 8 Timing Belt Rear Cover MD322517 1
Evo 8 Upper Timing Belt Cover MD373108 1
Evo 8 Valve Cover MN155455 1
Evo 8 Valve Cover Gasket MD340535 1
Evo 8 Valve Keepers MD016483 32
Evo 8 Valve Spring Retainers MN143698 16
Evo 8 Valve Spring Seats MD113424 16
Evo 8 Valve Springs MN158946 16
Evo 8 Valve Stem Seals MD306079 16

[beam514]

please please please don't chop up that bumper. If I had money I would buy it lol but alas, I am a poor college student.

[2002BlackDragon]

Holy shit Omega! Lol... thanks dude. More than I was looking for, but ill take it. Lol

As far as the bumper goes, I'd really like to buy the engine first anyway. So its a back burner project. As for the headlights, it will have Evo5 heads and tails.

[OMEGA PHX]

Holy shit Omega! Lol... thanks dude. More than I was looking for, but ill take it. Lol

As far as the bumper goes, I'd really like to buy the engine first anyway. So its a back burner project. As for the headlights, it will have Evo5 heads and tails.

The list I got from FlashBlueRS on club3g. There's tons more info there.

[2002BlackDragon]

Thanks man... ill dive deeper into it when I get the engine. As for now, money is tight and trying to find the body panels at "cheaper" prices is turning out to be a pain. Finding good deals, but freight shipping is a bitch. Paying over $500 for fenders is a bit out of my reach... for now.

[2002BlackDragon]

So, just looking for opinions here... but which do you think I better?

4g64 and eventually turn it into dohc and Turbo

Or

4g69 and figure out a good way of Modding that (ie Turbo)

I don't know much about the g69 other than it drops in. Lol

[IVORY_G]

So, just looking for opinions here... but which do you think I better?

4g64 and eventually turn it into dohc and Turbo

Or

4g69 and figure out a good way of Modding that (ie Turbo)

I don't know much about the g69 other than it drops in. Lol

4g64 and eventually turn it into dohc and Turbo

[QnzMostWanted]

4g64 drops right in, i beleive the f5m42 drops right in as well..since thats the 5spd they use

[2002BlackDragon]

Yes it does Denver. I was just going to hit a jy and pick the motor and transfer from a 3g and do a rebuild before they go in. I just didn't know how well the 4g69 compairs.

[QnzMostWanted]

the 4g69 utilizes MIVEC vs the 4g64, both are 2.4L engines, 69 puts out a little more power..uses multiport fuel injection...would it fit, yes, can u turbo it? yes, but with the 64 i beleive there is more support vs the 69...i'd go with tried and true, plus ur already familar with the 4g64

[Rach3T8G]

Actually N/A wise the 4G69 has a lot more aftermarket support than the 4G64 as far as turbo parts go, i believe the G69 guys have to have a custom manifold fabricated along with IC piping.

[2002BlackDragon]

Yeah, with my experiance I'd say the g64 is a better bet. Cause like Denver said, I'm more familiar with the g64. Plus the thought of an "Evo" motor is exciting.

[2002BlackDragon]

So does anyone know what axles i would need to get for this swap? I plan on getting the 4g64 and mani trans from a 3g eclipse from the junkyard. I just dont know if I need those axles too. Or the engine harness... how will i connect that to my car? I have looked on mirageforums.net but i cant seem to find an actual build thread. Found several that just shows pics after the build, but nothing like the build threads here. Im just trying to figure out everything befor i spend money on the wrong things.

[mysticj]

the 4g69 utilizes MIVEC vs the 4g64, both are 2.4L engines, 69 puts out a little more power..uses multiport fuel injection...would it fit, yes, can u turbo it? yes, but with the 64 i beleive there is more support vs the 69...i'd go with tried and true, plus ur already familar with the 4g64

i don't see what's the big deal with the 4g69, the 69 makes 2HP more than a 4G64 DOHC in a Galant GS....the 69 is design to have fuel economy and emissions in mind...

[2002BlackDragon]

So, I was finally able to get photobuck to work. So here is a few things that i have been working on.

Installed the stock cd player from the G into it. Fit really good and works awsome!
http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff427/fabled_mitsu/Rage-Gcd.jpg

Made my own short ram intake. Just installed for the photo. I will have it in the car when the exhaust work and injectors are added and a tune can be done.
http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff427/fabled_mitsu/CAI.jpg

Oil, plugs and wires changed. And engine bay washed out. Still needs alot more cleaning though.
http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff427/fabled_mitsu/Rage-ramps.jpg
http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff427/fabled_mitsu/Rage-ramps2.jpg

And now for the lip.
http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff427/fabled_mitsu/Rage-lip.jpg
http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff427/fabled_mitsu/Rage-lip2.jpg

So let me know what you guys think so far.

[QnzMostWanted]

looks good, but i'd pressure wash that engine before i continue to work on the car lol

[OMEGA PHX]

There's a good thread on club3g about the swap you want 4g64 in a mirage, I read a little and it said that you use the 3g 5spd as you plan and use mirage axles with 3g inner boots and input shafts.

He is going to use 3g ecu and maf, I believe he said the mirage harness works.

Here it is:http://www.club3g.com/forum/members-rides/149277-mirage6evos-2-4-dohc-swap.html

And lip looks good I like ;)

[2002BlackDragon]

Hey, thanks for the link Omega. Yeah, i got some info from the MirageForum and all but its harder to navagate that one than this forum. Info is just scattered every where. And not alot of "tuts" or how to's for builds. Ill check out the link. The good news is that i dont think my engine is in as bad of shape as i thought so it gives me the time to collect parts and info for the build.

And thats deff in the plans Denver... I just dont have a pressure washer. lol

[2002BlackDragon]

hahaha... its awesome cause the link actually goes to the guy i was talking about. I have dreams about my build based off his car.

[2002BlackDragon]

New direction taken today!

[Ivory8g]

uh oh! *curious*

[wetamup2k3g]

Yeah, what's this I hear about a 6A-something?

[2002BlackDragon]

Lil... I didn't think people actually paid attention to what was going on with me. Well Greg, to answer your question...the missing part is 13tt. Lol I'm pretty excited about it. Just started making payments on it. Can't wait!

[carl3g]

That's a big commitment your making my man. If your truly ready for it, then by all means go for it and keep us posted!

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[E_Emerson88]

it fits???

[Ivory8g]

thats what i said. that engine fits?

[wetamup2k3g]

According to this link (http://www.mirageforums.net/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=49639) it does. It doesn't detail the specifics, but it looks like the motor mounts line up fine. Somebody familiar posted in this link too....

[QnzMostWanted]

6a13tt fits, bolts right up to the stock transmission and is a little pocket rocket

[E_Emerson88]

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk219/sloaney_bucket/mr-burns.jpg

interesting. . . . .

[Ivory8g]

WTF?!........BOOM! *mind blown*

http://youtu.be/cARauLRYX2g

[wetamup2k3g]

And shit just got real.

Any specifics on where you got it from, or are you keeping some things on the hush?

[2002BlackDragon]

Well, Im not revealing everything right now... But it is mated to the 1.8 5speed trans and will not be going in my car, but into another Mirage. I want to build an "evo5" shell but with this motor. Just got to get alot of work and a hell of alot more research done.

And yeah Greg, thats me thats posting in the link. There is alot of info in that forum... but you really have to search for it.

I have alot of work ahead of me now. Good thing i have a good friend that is going to be helping me build the car when i get it.

[spdracr]

So it was u who posted it on Facebook then. U posted 6A.. and that's it. At the time it didn't click in my head but I had a feeling that's what u meant.

[2002BlackDragon]

How the hell did it get on FB? I thought i posted that in the " what you bought for your car recently"? lol

[spdracr]

How the hell did it get on FB? I thought i posted that in the " what you bought for your car recently"? lol

Haha my bad that's where I saw it then. I got confused lol

[2002BlackDragon]

That or it was on the "Random thoughts" thread.

[Gtorque]

Coming along nicely man. Keep up the good work

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[2002BlackDragon]

No update as of lately. Been waiting for a response about some of the parts for the guy that has the other car and its taking a little longer than i like. I really hope this doesnt mean that he is backing out of the agreement.

[2002BlackDragon]

Well, the deal is going through very well. Making payments on the motor and already have a catback on the way. He is also throwing in some wheels. Should make the car 100% better.

But i am getting my catback monday so then all i have to do is get the new flex pipe and it will be good to go on.

[2002BlackDragon]

Well, project is toast. Sold the car and now looking for a galant.

[Ivory8g]

bittersweet!

[Vince]

craigslist ! took me a week to find a gtz.