MSD Ignition

[#1GALANTFAN]

So I have a friend with a '92 Sentra SE-R with a TPS/RPM Module, headaers, cold air, exhaust, and that's it and it can beat pre 2010 V8 Mustang's. Pretty much all his car is is that MSD Ignition module, and I was wondering if anyone used one in a 9G. Without that ignition modul turned on, his 0-60 is 8.3 seconds, so its not that fast, but with it on it acts like a turbo with like 5 psi. So apparently, it makes a big difference, and I was thinking about trying one out, but going here first to see what you guys suggest.

[M-Rod]

The MSD 6A was installed on an 8G, but never a 9G as far as I know. And the only reason it was installed on that 8G was because of spark blowout above 10'ish psi.

I really don't see how the stock ignition would be inadequate for that Sentra. Those Mustangs probably aren't even aware he is racing them.

[Silvertune]

I really don't see how the stock ignition would be inadequate for that Sentra. Those Mustangs probably aren't even aware he is racing them.

The ignition boost doesn't do anything to these cars.

[sdavidson7014]

No matter what the vehicle is , MSD dosnt add power, it only ensures there is a full spark and in some cases a hotter spark. The car may idle better, or maybe before the MSD there was a misfire and thats what makes it seem like there is more power but reallly there isnt.

[oakrdrs187]

Those Mustangs probably aren't even aware he is racing them.

^ This. LOL!:lol:

[GWAPS]

Dnt run msd's ignition boxes, THEY R JUNK THEY DO NOTHING BUT FUCK UP. Stock ignitions R beautiful.

[Silvertune]

Stock ignitions are weak and can't light a properly filled cylinder. MSD boxes only suck when they aren't installed correctly.

[#1GALANTFAN]

Well, this one doesn't suck. It acts like a turbo, he has to set it at what RPM he wants it to activate, and then also he has to set what throttle position it activates at. So like, he would set it to his foot all the way down, and he has it set to activate at 4,000 RPM, so it only activates when he's flooring it and when it reaches 4K RPM. You definitely notice a difference, we would have a near perfect start with absolutely no wheel spin, and when it activates the light comes on and we start spinning the tires. With it off this doesn't happen. There's definitely a big difference, I have a video of him beating an RX8 with me in the passenger seat, and it's beat a V6 Accord Coupe, and that's not supposed to happen. So there is something up with this and it does work, if I have to I'll make a youtube account and post it.

[oakrdrs187]

^ Cool story.

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[deeznutz]

Dam I need a msd too cause I wanna go fast...

[Silvertune]

It's probably a 25 shot and you're just retarded. RX8's and accord coupes are SLOW.

[oakrdrs187]

Dam I need a msd too cause I wanna go fast...

and create boost!

[GWAPS]

Again, fuck a msd ignition box lmao.

[Silvertune]

#clearlynaturallyaspiratedandnotbuilt

[#1GALANTFAN]

Yeah, I was just seeing if you guys knew anything about the one he has. I can't find it in the MSD Ignition website, so its probably a discontinued product or something. But it activates and then the red light comes on (on the module inside) and the 4 cylinder turns into a Mustang killer. And no, a FWD 4 cylinder Sentra should not be able to beat a V6 Accord Coupe, or the RWD twin rotary engine manual RX8 with full exhaust system, but this MSD Ignition makes it possible. Apparently, you guys don't know what I'm talking about and think I'm retarded, so I'll just be going now, thanks anyways guys.

[wetamup2k3g]

...if I have to I'll make a youtube account and post it.

Do this. And get specifics on his setup. When people doubt, put up the facts to make them believe. Because to those that know, this sounds like BS. I mean, you came on asking an opinion about if you should get what he got and put it on your 9G, and you can't tell us what it is exactly. How should we react to this? I'm curious to see what his car can do, so when you get a chance, post that vid. I'll be here.

[#1GALANTFAN]

That's a good point, but see the thing is, this Module came with the car when he bought it, and since neither of us can find it on the MSD Ignition website, the only way we would know what it is is if we find the person who sold it to us and ask him. Maybe we'll run into him again, but let's not forget the main reason for this topic; to figure out what exactly this is so I can somehow find one online so I can put one in my car so I can whoop ass lol.

So here's the video, and if you want I can try to set up some more races with videos so I can further prove this exists, like the one with the V6 Accord Coupe I mentioned earlier:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YNumN-Zg8og

Note the good no spin start, then after it activates you here wheelspin. I also have a video of it beating a Civic SI with some custom stuff, although that one my friend put it in neutral and didn't even have it activated the last half cause his foot wasn't all the way down (and that's where its set at). So just let me know if you guys wanna see that too, maybe soon I can setup a race against something else, but going all out, showing how devastating this thing can be lol.

[sdavidson7014]

either its a shot set to WOT, or that rx-8 is sandbagging like a mother for this video. Im convinced its the second.

[#1GALANTFAN]

Well he wasn't sandbagging it that's for sure, but I don't know what you mean by shot set to wide open throttle.

[sdavidson7014]

like a shot of nitrous. There arent any magic boxes that just double whp when activated, it takes time, money, and alot of wrenching to build a "fast" car. Saying you can just bolt on some box and activate it and beat everything on the road is a slap in the face to all the guys who actually build their cars and dont look for the cheap way out. and even if this did somehow magically add all this hp, it would probably burn up a)itself or b) your ecu within a week.

[#1GALANTFAN]

Sigh... I was hoping you weren't referring to nitrous. Look, its not nitrous, its this little box that sits in the console area and all it says on it is MSD Ignition RPM/TPS Module. Why would I lie about this? Remember, the point of this topic is to figure out what this is so I can get one put in my Galant and kick ass, not to try to make it fake, it is real and I only wanted your guy's help so I can go faster. His Sentra does 0-60 in 8.3 seconds with it off and we haven't measured it with it on, but it definitely does something. Although it is funny that you mention the ECU, because the ECU is just laying there where your feet go in the passenger seat, it's just lying on the floor closest to the firewall front area, pretty much just loosely hanging on ny the wires. I don't know if this has anything to do with it, but I'm pretty sure the module is wired up electronically only. Either way, I just need to find the guy who put that in the car and ask him what it is, because my friends and I can't figure it out or find them on the website, although I haven't tried ebay yet which might not be a bad idea, especially if it is a discontinued product. But yeah, it's not nitrous or even a secret turbo or something because it won't activate when we turn it off, but when its on, and we know its on because when it activates, not only do we notice a big power gain, the module on the console lights up this little red light. And we've done this multiple times, and considering the cars age, if something were to blow up, I'm sure it would've happened by now. Thanks to the previous owner, this little Sentra has lots of rep around town for being fast, which is because of this MSD thing that none of us seems to know what it is. Remember, all I want is help on figuring out what this is, if you don't know, then please, just say you don't know instead of trying to make it fake.

[oakrdrs187]

Perhaps a picture of said "MSD box"


BTW, wheel spin seemed normal to me in the video.

[9Ggts]

Maybe you are referring to this. A tps booster. check the website. Unfortunately, nothing for the galant

http://www.sprintboosterusa.com/default.aspx

[Black8GV6]

Brian O'connor must be driving the sentra

[sdavidson7014]

Brian O'connor must be driving the sentra

^^this:laugh::laugh:

[#1GALANTFAN]

UPDATE! Ok, sorry it took so long to figure this out. Finally made contact with the owner who had this Sentra before my friend did. There was an engine swap done to this car (we knew this part), but what we didn't know was that they used the original ECU after the swap. And the stock motor did not have Nissan's Neo VVL (our MIVEC, Honda's VTEC, etc.). So the stock ECU didn't know there was a new motor in it that did have Neo VVL. So all the MSD did was activate it. That's all it did. But, because its a MSD Ignition product, it is controlled through the TPS and at specified RPM's (which we also knew already), but because it is an aftermarket variable valve timing activation, it kicks harder and much quicker, with much less of crossover time. So it isn't just some stock Honda VTEC with stock cams tiny little kick, it's an extremely noticeable kick; which is why I wanted to know and figure out exactly what it was and what it did. So in other words, this MSD Ignition thing will not work for our cars :icon_sad:. Here's the exact MSD Ignition product I found on ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-TPS-RPM-Activated-Switch-MSD-8940-/150662410327?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item23142df057&vxp=mtr

Now, the only way I can see this working for our cars is to reprogram the ECU to not activate the MIVEC at all, but then plug in this little guy and have it activate the MIVEC instead. But that sounds like we'd get crap gas mileage just to normally accelerate without using MSD. So basically useless for our cars, or at least unless we can get decent power to move our fairly heavy cars without MIVEC, which the Nissan does, because it only weighs 2,300 lbs.

And yes, activating the Neo VVL also isn't why it could beat GT Mustang's. Apparently, the previous owner was just like Brian 'O Connor and was using a 75 shot of nitrous, (don't know yet or dry, but assuming dry). So that's why it could beat GT Mustang's and also why everyone who sees it thinks that it's so fast. And no, we're aren't using nitrous in it, I think right before my friend bought it the previous owner took out any proof of nitrous lol. So now that we solved that mystery, because we also figured out the correct engine that's sitting under the hood; it's an SR20VE, when we originally thought it was just the SR20DE. The main difference being the SR20DE's did not have Nissan's Neo VVL (which we thought it did). The SR20VE has about 190 HP stock, compared to what we thought it had was 140. So it is definitely still pretty fast without the nitrous system installed, even with the few aftermarket mods. So now you know the whole story and hopefully understand where I was coming from and I forgive the rude comments that I received in this topic and on my rep report thing here. So please, no hard feelings. :icon_biggrin: