Isaurio's Turbo Built "4G64T" Heavy pics

[Isaurio]

It’s been a long time waiting, collecting parts, research, DECISIONS, DECISIONS. But I took the first step and is no turning back now.

Members to thanks for making this built possible with their help and advises. :038:

1.DeezNutz "Dion"
2.Stewi "Brian"
3.Goosey2099 "Roman"
4.Galant2010 "Robinson"
5. Shop S & T Auto body In the Bronx
6. ACAMUS "Programming GURU"
7. Other members

Project:
4G64 SOHC Turbo

Short block:
4G64 block 0.024 over
Wiseco 1400HD Forged Pistons 87MM
Manley H-Beam with ARP-2000 Rods
OEM 100mm crank, micro polish, coated and balance 10K RPM by ACE Crankshaft
ARP rods bolts
ARP main bolts
ACL STD main tri-metal bearings
Clevite STD 77 Rod tri-metal bearings
STM balance shaft elimination kit
OEM- Water-oil pumps, timing belt, pulleys, harmonic balancer, gaskets, bolts etc.
OEM EVO 8 oil filter housing with evo bolts *Galant bolts don’t work*
OEM oil filter after breaking –
2 WIX 57092 oil filter. 1st for 20 miles, 2nd for the rest 980 miles.
OEM Evo 8 Oil Pan and oil pickup tube
Redline assembly lube and amsoil assembly lube
AMSOIL break in oil

HEAD:
OEM SOHC head cleaned, hot tank, resurface for multi-layer gasket
COSMETIC head 87mm gasket.
OEM new lifter
New seals
RPW stage 3 turbo cam, 272 "0.300" lift intake 272 exhaust "0.300" lobe centre line "112 deg" HKS turbo rally.
RPW upgraded springs
NGK spark plug gapped by AR Design
EVO 8 coil packs
MAGNECOR spark plug wires KV85 8.5mm

Transmission:
3G 5 speed eclipse Transmission
Fresh rebuilt, new seals, all synchros 1-5th replaced.
Quaife LSD *Thanks Fetal1*
Clutch Masters 05048-HDC6 FX400 Street/Strip Stage 4 Kit 6 puck clutch
AMSOIL Synthetic Manual Gear Lube 75W-90
New axles
New MOOG front wheel hubs

Fuel System:
Outlander mani
6g72 diamante TB with mil.spec seals and rebuilt by "SilverTune"
Evo 8 AMS fuel rail with pressure gauge
Evo 8 FIC 750cc injector
aeromotive fuel pressure regulator
Walbro 255-HP fuel pump
EVO 9 map sensor
Evo 9 MAF sensor
AN fittings

BOOST:
Garret 60-1 turbo stage 3 max HP 550
UCS performance custom t3/t4 Manifold Ceramic coated black by "Detective Coating"
UCS performance custom Down Pipe
USC performance custom intake, fmic pipes
TIAL F38 38mm Waste Gate 11psi spring
HKS Super SSQV4
3” Injen EVO 8 intake with K&N 3” air filter
AN fittings

Misc:
13 row OIL cooler – 8AN
10 row power steering oil cooler
JM fabrications deluxe polished oil catch can -8 AN with K&N filter and level Gauge
vibrant vacuum block
AEM Tru-boost controller
AEM wideband
Prosport Oil Temp and pressure gauges
Mishimoto evo 5-6-7 Aluminum radiator
Mishimoto evo 5-6-7 Aluminum fan shroud
And more that I don’t even know. LOL

Tuning:
TDM tuning “by ME”
Stock 02 Galant ECU
2.4L Big Map ROM at 300 Loads, 8500K RPM "Thanks to ACAMUS for giving a hand and time to the 2.4L big maps"
EVO 9 MAF Tables
2 steps
CEL on knock
And more.

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update from 12/15/12
More work, more holdups from missing parts.

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update 12/21/12

Working progress on big map. Fine tuning needs to be done.

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update 12/22/12

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[Ivory8g]

JEEZUS! LOL *overload*
Too much winning ^__^

[deeznutz]

Your very welcome buddy I enjoy putting together this motor and can't wait to get behind the wheel and lay some rubber down ;)

[keith6110]

Good stuff guys! Can't wait to see it in person! I was just wondering... Is there a reason why the evo ecu is not used?

[deeznutz]

^^^ yea cause its not needed!!! He's running big maps in his ecu so it recognizes boost!!!

[Isaurio]

Thats right. No evo ecu need it. Boost control will bee use external with tru-boost controller. Stock rom will do the calculation for 100+ loads. The calculation responce should be faster since the ECU dont have to calculate the turbo portion tables.

[xd_01]

nice build, how much do you have left? just a little tip though on your quaife, since you have the tranny out of the car test your axles out. people have had problems with the older versions including myself, what happens is the axles dont lock and when you fill with gear oil it all leaks out. it will look and feel
like there locked in but if you give one a good pull and it comes out then you know you have a problem. its usully just one side.

[Isaurio]

Not much left. just a few more parts like ss lines. But i need to measure when the engine is inside. Thanks for the advice, we will double check the axles.

[deeznutz]

dont have to do that i already know the axels dont leak..

[OMEGA PHX]

This is a great build so much $$$$$ spent in those parts lol hope its finished soon and you can enjoy it for a long time ;)

[Silvertune]

Looks real good.

Did you rebuild that throttle body? If not it's going to leak like crazy.

[wetamup2k3g]

Can't wait for the Corona meet, I wanna see this beast in person!

Cruel Summer 2013!

[carl3g]

Good looking stuff Isaurio. Cant wait to see it in person as well.

Dion, you need to eat more lmao

[deeznutz]

No silvertune it hasn't been rebuilt it actually a pretty clean t/b once we get it running ill double check it under boost.
@ Carl kiss my skinny white ass lmao dude I'm trying to but my metabolism won't let me!!!

[Isaurio]

^^lol

Tb is not rebuilt like dion said. But i wont bee on hi boost for the first 1000 miles. So it should be all good. I will check after the break-in.

[The Vee]

What an awesome looking build that is.

[Silvertune]

You'll want to, I haven't come across one that hasn't leaked on anything above atmospheric, I've lost count on how many I've done now. If you find yourself needing any assistance with it though let me know. Good luck! I expect you'll make some pretty good output.

[M-Rod]

Mil-spec shaft seals ftmfw! When you're ready to turn the boost up they will come in handy. Looks good though. Can't wait to see what it puts down.

[foxbrand]

Awesome stuff, so much so tapatalk is refusing to load images
To the laptop!
*old-school Batman transition*

[8thLS6]

Looks like its gonna be fun when it hits the street, nicely done

[1992Galant]

The motor looks great. I can't wait to see the car again person. Awsome build .

[Isaurio]

You'll want to, I haven't come across one that hasn't leaked on anything above atmospheric, I've lost count on how many I've done now. If you find yourself needing any assistance with it though let me know. Good luck! I expect you'll make some pretty good output.

Thanks I will let you know when i see some type of leak. Also where the leaks come from so i could keep on eye on it.


Mil-spec shaft seals ftmfw! When you're ready to turn the boost up they will come in handy. Looks good though. Can't wait to see what it puts down.

Thanks. Do they have a Mil-spec shaft seal for the 74 diamante TB. I know they have it for the evo. Not sure if they are universal.

[Isaurio]

Thanks guys for post. I will keep you guys update. Today Dion and I are ready to give it some more love. Hope today we finish bolting on the trani with clutch and install new hubs and axles. And do some more tests fitting for Radiator, intercooler, fix bumper, mount brackets and place for the oil coolers, mount the fuel pressure regulator; mount the tru-boost gauge and oil temp gauge. Also measure SS lines lengths to buy the final parts. More pic coming soon. .

[M-Rod]

I believe the evo seals fit the diamante throttle body with slight modification. I'll wait for silvertune to chime in for clarification since he actually rebuilt my throttle body.

[Silvertune]

The 74 throttle body uses a unique shaft seal diameter, to get the Evo seals in there you have to machine the bores in the housing out. Your method for doing so may be up to you, you just have to make sure you don't make it too big or the seals won't do anything for you, but big enough so that when you press them in you don't crimp the case on the seal. The nice thing is the 74 shaft is bigger than the 72 shaft so the Evo shaft seals fit even tighter. Mine was holding 45 pounds of pressure after two years of use when I was retesting my system after this latest season.

[Isaurio]

^ thanks. Ones the engine breaks in. I will test for leaks and change the seals

[Isaurio]

Update some pics check first post by date. We where going to install the trani and drop the engine on sat. But i was missing the throw out bearing clip, and i need new flywheel bolts since last one where a little bad for some reason.

[mko]

The inner diameter on 10an swivel for the oil return looks awfully small and the feed fitting looks like it doesnt have a restrictor The reason im saying this is that these garrett turbos are very picky about their oiling. Too much oil and the seals will blow, not enough drainage and the seals are shot again.

I hope you did a research on the turbo to find out what psi it needs to see on cols start, idle, cruise and wot. These things matter when you do the balance shaft delete, because it gets some crazy oil pressures. Which reminds me - did you port the valve relief hole on the oil filter housing.

[Isaurio]

The inner diameter on 10an swivel for the oil return looks awfully small and the feed fitting looks like it doesnt have a restrictor The reason im saying this is that these garrett turbos are very picky about their oiling. Too much oil and the seals will blow, not enough drainage and the seals are shot again.

I hope you did a research on the turbo to find out what psi it needs to see on cols start, idle, cruise and wot. These things matter when you do the balance shaft delete, because it gets some crazy oil pressures. Which reminds me - did you port the valve relief hole on the oil filter housing.

I have a -10 oil return for and a -4 for feed. A lot of people are running a -3 An for the feed and they have no problem on this type of turbo. They are running crazy boots also. I did my research on the turbo and the proper oil it needs for my boost levels goals. -12 for return is over kill if i'm not making more than 550WHP.

For the oil housing did not find anything about porting the release valve with a balance shaft delete. I'm using a evo 9 oil housing it has a better design than the old models. I will look in to that.

[mko]

I just looked at my 12an push lock oil drain and it measured 15.6mm ID which isnt alot. That 10an swivel doesnt look any bigger than 10-12mm ID. I'd look into the oil drain setup for this particular turbo again.

[Isaurio]

Let me know what you find.

[mko]

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-forum/374346-oil-restrictors-60-trim-what-you-running.html

[Isaurio]

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-forum/374346-oil-restrictors-60-trim-what-you-running.html

Most people are using the oil filter "restrictor" with -4 depending on the oil pressure. The only way to find out is to test the oil pressure. I will have to wait to see the oil pressure while the engine is running. If is too much oil pressure i will increase the oil drain to a -12

[Isaurio]

update pic.

[Isaurio]

If you guys ever need this information. This is for people looking AN fittings for the evo 8-9 oil filter housing i made this pic with the right sizes.

http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww267/isaurio/Isaurios%20Turbo%20Built%204g64/evo8-9Oilfilterhousingplugs-1.png

[Ivory8g]

Good lookin out, that is super handy! *saved*

[Isaurio]

Little update.

Installed clutch and trani
engine is in the car.
new hub bearings L+R
New Axles L+R

An fittings for new PCV valve delete. They going to go with vent to atmosphere oil catch can.
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blue AN-4 Turbo oil feed adapter.
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stage 4 clutch masters 6 puck with heavy duty pressure plate.
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[deeznutz]

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[galant1983]

work of art!!!

[Isaurio]

^ thanks buddy. A lot of work needs to be done. But she is in and ready to get rolling.

[Isaurio]

Got my New Prosport EVO series Oil pressure gauge. Big as Sending unit. LOL

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[Silvertune]

Prosport ftw.

[galant1983]

hows the build going?

[Isaurio]

Is going slow but well. When u deal with AN fittings are a pain. Everything is mostly custom work and it takes time.

[Isaurio]

Lil update. Finished up doing the line for the turbo oil cooler and feed line. Black ss line with silicon cover for extra protection. Also some fuel ss line where made.

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[Ivory8g]

Those are some nice lines!!!

[Isaurio]

They are good but 3x as hard to install because of the extra layer

[Silvertune]

AN fittings suck to work with but they're worth it once they're in, looking pretty and doing the job reliably.

[Ivory8g]

They are good but 3x as hard to install because of the extra layer

Oh yeah I can see that having just installed a similar line and fitting setup minus the outer coating and it took some muscle. They definitely are worth it

[zobgel]

That is a work of ART!!! Can't wait to see this beast done!

[greddy]

You need to relocate your oil pressure gauge sender. Foo close to the axle.

[Isaurio]

^ it looks closed because the wheel is off the ground making the control arm and axle go down making it look super closed. When i bring the car down is about 4-5 inch clearance.

But i will keep an eye on it. That oil pressure sensor from prosport is on steroids.

[Isaurio]

That is a work of ART!!! Can't wait to see this beast done!

Thanks bro. In trying here. With the help of some good friends she is getting there.

[zobgel]

Thanks bro. In trying here. With the help of some good friends she is getting there.

Your very lucky bro, to have those good friends around you to help you on the project. I wish I have friends like that around me to help me on my project. LOL
Hope I can finish the galant before the 2013 MOD so I can see your car.

[IVORY_G]

Looking good

[fatal1]

coming along nicely...give ma a call when she is ready to move

[Isaurio]

Thanks guys.

Fatal- yes i will let you know.

[Rach3T8G]

Random question did you port your intake manifold flange to match the opening on the 74TB?

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[8thLS6]

Nice, like how the fittings tie in with the valve cover

[Isaurio]

Random question did you port your intake manifold flange to match the opening on the 74TB?

Sent from my Galaxy S3 using Tapatalk 2.

No port needed on the outlander mani. The 74 and the outlander are max out for porting. 74 and outlander are perfect mach on the flange.

[mko]

Hey bud, where did you get these silicone coated lines? Link?

Thanks

[Isaurio]

Hey bud, where did you get these silicone coated lines? Link?

Thanks

Sure. I get most of the lines and fittings from:
http://www.siliconeintakes.com/

[Isaurio]

Lil update guys:

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/02/17/asymyre6.jpg
0 gauge power and negative for bat relocation to trunk

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/02/17/dyda6enu.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/02/17/y4yry7az.jpg
-16 welds bung for radiator.

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Installed radiator fan. Push and pull
And new location for engine oil cooler.

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New vibrant 3" muffler and resonator

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Doing some ss line for oil catch can


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Pvc valve deleted crank gas will be vented with vented oil catch can

[specter6633]

damn looking good

[Isaurio]

damn looking good

Thanks bro.

[finald8ta]

im abit confused about your catch can setup.
dont you want it to have a suckion so it ill pull all the air/oil out of the VC/crankcase?

[Galanttuner10]

im abit confused about your catch can setup.
dont you want it to have a suckion so it ill pull all the air/oil out of the VC/crankcase?

deleting the PCV can cause crank case pressure issues, in DSMs and evos usually we weld 2 AN fitting onto the valve cover and run those to the catch can and leave the PCV alone

[OMEGA PHX]

Everything looks great Isaurio, I would really like to hear that exhaust setup,

You'll have to make a spacer for the TB, and buy some evo Mil spec seals for the TB, you'll thank me when you do a boost leak test :thumb_rsvd:

[4g63lover]

Build is looking good homie! Hey what application did you get your aluminum radiator for?

I ran my catch can the same way except I kept the PCV.

[Isaurio]

Thanks guys.
PVC valve. A lot of you have it confuse. The valve it self is use just for emission and to keep oil from going in to the intake mani. I know u need some type of vacuum on idle to get the crankcase gases out. But since is no valve it should be free flowing out. On boost u needs as much opening and flow to release the pressure of the crank. Is a -8 line it should be good. Of anything i change the setup.

[Isaurio]

Build is looking good homie! Hey what application did you get your aluminum radiator for?

I ran my catch can the same way except I kept the PCV.

You do you mean about application on the radiator?

[4g63lover]

Like is it for an evo or the 3G?

[GOOSEY2099]

Looks good, what TB is that?

[Silvertune]

You need a PCV valve so pressure in the manifold doesn't push back into the crank case. If you don't have a check valve between a boosted passage and your crank case you will volcano oil all over that pretty engine bay.

[Isaurio]

Like is it for an evo or the 3G?

Evo 5-6-7 mishimoto radiator.

[Isaurio]

Looks good, what TB is that?

Thanks bro. Thats the diamante tb.

[GOOSEY2099]

did you change the shaft seals in that??

[Isaurio]

You need a PCV valve so pressure in the manifold doesn't push back into the crank case. If you don't have a check valve between a boosted passage and your crank case you will volcano oil all over that pretty engine bay.

Both port on the valve is going to a oil catch can vented with filter. Dont see how it pressure will built on the can.

[Isaurio]

did you change the shaft seals in that??

No i have not. Not sure what seals fits on the 74. I just want to break in engine for the first 1k miles. Im not going to full boost on break in. Just normal driving not to crazy.

[Silvertune]

I wasn't saying yours was, I didn't actually look at how you set yours up just yet. It was just a general comment. Running the can to vent is alright so long as you have valves in the lines so it can't pull unmetered air through the can.

There are no aftermarket seals for the 74 tb, they're smaller than the other Mitsubishi stuff that does have aftermarket support. You can mod the housings to fit the aftermarket seals though. I rebuild throttle bodies with them all the time.

[GOOSEY2099]

yeah you need good seals cause original crap leaks like a used up whore in the am.

[Isaurio]

Yeah. I was thinking about that. I will do a leak test and see how much it leaks out. But i will take ur advice to find a way to rebuilt it.

About the maf is very minimal getting un-meter air thru the can. I have 1200cc injectors im sure i will run on the rich side, if it gets air not calculated by the maf, extravair is good since it will lean out the mixture a bit. Nothing a tune and some logs would fix.

Doing this setup
1. to keep the oil and hot gases going back or getting mix on the mani avoiding a lot of pro later.
2. By deleting the pvc "restricted oem pvc" and have a flowing track it will flow out the gases better from the crank specially with psi above 20 and hot cam. I could always change it later.

[OMEGA PHX]

As I said like 15 comments before you need a spacer for that TB/IM combo and Mil Spec seals work on the 74 tb its a little tight of a fit but just need to press them in ;)

[Isaurio]

^why spacers? I used the tb on my stock setup with no pro.

[Silvertune]

You will find that being boosted is a very different story, you don't get away with anything. If stuff isn't sealed up TIGHT you WILL leak and leak always. Tuning around it is often possible, but you just lose power and put more wear on the setup and end up with a filthy engine bay.

[Isaurio]

^thanks. Yeah i understand. Until i get some boost and see what i need to re-adjust i cant adjust now.

[GOOSEY2099]

Fix things that a guaranteed to leak now... That shit ain't a joke

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[Isaurio]

^thanks. Like i said need to start the car first. And sit the rings. This tb will hold just fine until the break in. Ones i get it running i take the time to get better seals for the tb. Right now im behind dont have the time to patch or fix the tb. I will do a boost test leak and see how much it will hold

[Silvertune]

Before you even attempt starting the car I would highly recommend putting a BLT on the turbo and pumping it up 35 psi. Track down every single leak before you start. Makes like a million times easier.

[Isaurio]

Yeah bro. I have the leak test tools to do it ones i get everything in place. Also for the AN Fittings.

[OMEGA PHX]

Take your time bro but w/o a spacer, adding material or rewelding a new flange you won't hold 5psi:

This is the problem with this TB/IM and there's no gasket that can seal that:
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z290/OMEGAPHX/74TBOutlanderIM_zps6b82da78.jpg

This was my fix:
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z290/OMEGAPHX/AluminumSpacer_zps376312f3.jpg
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z290/OMEGAPHX/SpacerInstalled_zps28f8a0e2.jpg

Evo Mil Spec TB shaft seals on 74 TB (I didn't bore anything just pressed them in):
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z290/OMEGAPHX/TBseals_zps23970b3a.jpg

Hope this help ;)

[Isaurio]

Cool. Where did u get the spacer at? U need longer bolts?

[OMEGA PHX]

Spacer was made by my dad from a piece of aluminum used the 74 gasket as a guide and left some extra material at the problematic areas, gaskets are made out of a thick gasket paper and covered with copper spray a gasket, the length of the bolts depends on the thickness of your spacer as you can see the ones I got are too long but they get the job done.

[Isaurio]

Ok guys more updates:

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Mounted front oil cooler.

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Mishimoto power stering reserv

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Made and installed -16 AN radiator hose

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1.Dion *deeznuts* soldering and wire tuck evo injectors plugs and evo oem resistor box.
2.finished the fpr return line.

[Ivory8g]

noice! those are some interesting coil packs and plug wires

[finald8ta]

looking sharp bro, when do you expect to be done?

[Isaurio]

Umm not sure. Another month or so.

[fatal1]

nice bro, looks good. i havent checked on this in a while. looks like your almost there. cant wait for the start up

[Isaurio]

nice bro, looks good. i havent checked on this in a while. looks like your almost there. cant wait for the start up

Thanks bro. Almost there. Just a few more electrical things. Test leak the AN fittings. Test leak all intake pipes. Fill her up with fluids and crank crank. Lol.

Hows the eclipse. No dyno. I still need a ride on it.

[Isaurio]

noice! those are some interesting coil packs and plug wires

Thanks. Evo coil packs. Roman told me you get better performance than the stock g. Magnecor race ignition wires.

[finald8ta]

Lil update. Finished up doing the line for the turbo oil cooler and feed line. Black ss line with silicon cover for extra protection. Also some fuel ss line where made.

http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww267/isaurio/Isaurios%20Turbo%20Built%204g64/E2897C32-22A0-412B-AF90-E36D2665E71A-14878-000009D8C603D922.jpg


can you explain witch line is what?

[Ivory8g]

Thanks. Evo coil packs. Roman told me you get better performance than the stock g. Magnecor race ignition wires.

oh gotcha. yeah the evo ignition system does support a pretty high hp. good stuff

[Isaurio]

More updates.
I was going crazy for my maf turbo intake setup could not find something to get in to the right place. After doing some searching I got this evo 8 injen intake i have to say it looks oem to me. Perfect fit. Did some TLC to the evo 9 maf and injen maf adapter. Looks new now.

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[finald8ta]

looks goods,

[2002BlackDragon]

Whatever... That looks amazing!

[Isaurio]

Thanks guys.

[greddy]

Relocate that sender... trust me

[Isaurio]

What sender?

[Ivory8g]

hes talking about the oil pressure sender for the gauge.
Looks great man. nice progress!

[Isaurio]

^ the g is on a lift. The coils is a max extend since is not on the ground. U have 3 inch clearance at max. When is on the ground it has a 10 inch clearance. Is all good is pic playing eye game.

Ivory thanks.

[Isaurio]

Update:
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Got some exhaust v-bands
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/03/11/7ysyguju.jpg
Custom made my radiator AN hose. This will fit the SOHC with evo 456 mishimoto radiator

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/03/11/upyvy2aq.jpg
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My bro DION came thru with his welds relocate bottom mount points for radiator to fit stock location.

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[GOOSEY2099]

Looks good.. Get it on the road already!!

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[Isaurio]

Looks good.. Get it on the road already!!

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Im trying here. Lol

[Isaurio]

Custom down pipe 90% done. All i need is high temp paint and heat wrap. Had good result with my last wrapped heaters.
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Heavy duty 3" thick industrial flex pipe took 4 blades to cut the bitch. Thanks Dion for the item.

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Welded wideband bung.

[Silvertune]

Gotta use bi-metal blades and a dab of engine oil on the teeth.

[Isaurio]

Yeah. That flexpipe is a beast. I did not have time to get fancy. The muffler shop did the work.

[Silvertune]

Perhaps it's been mentioned, but what are your goals? Times, numbers, anything you'd like to see?

[specter6633]

Yeah. That flexpipe is a beast. I did not have time to get fancy. The muffler shop did the work.

damn isaurio its looking reeally good.

[oakrdrs187]

Perhaps it's been mentioned, but what are your goals? Times, numbers, anything you'd like to see?

He mentioned once, he wants to see what he can get out of the 4g64, that was all.

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[mysticj]

Im trying here. Lol

I second that..

[Isaurio]

Perhaps it's been mentioned, but what are your goals? Times, numbers, anything you'd like to see?

I mean the 4g64 block is fully built could handle about 700hp. I want to see how much the SOHC could hold.

I mean im not going for crazy numbers. I could get easy 400-450whp on this setup.

The intake valves and trani is going to hold me back but im not worry.

[Isaurio]

More updates:
Upgraded new ss clutch line
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Added vibrant vacuum block. Fpr and break booster are connected. Need bov and boost control to be connected
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Mounted power steering cooler
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Radom pics. The intercooler with all pipes are 90% set, all i need is to re-enforce the sides with steal brackets and is money.
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[GOOSEY2099]

why do you need a ps cooler again???

[deeznutz]

^^^Cause he don't friggin listen!!!! And that cooler is waaaaaayyyyy tooooo big

[Isaurio]

Front oem cooler is gone. Why not upgrade it.

Im using power steering it gets super hot. I mean g is going to be a daily for a while.

[Isaurio]

^^^Cause he don't friggin listen!!!! And that cooler is waaaaaayyyyy tooooo big

It will come in handy when i take it to a circuit track.

[GOOSEY2099]

MMMM no it wont... in fact it will probably never cool down to begin with since there is no airflow there... Useless in my opinion, just something else that can leak.

[Isaurio]

Is by the foglight some air will flow. is better than nothing.

I have a AN leak test kit -3 to -16 i will make sure all my lines are leak proof before i put any fluids

[Isaurio]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/03/19/de9ugedu.jpg
AN test kit

[deeznutz]

That stupid cooler was more effort installing than its worth! Sorry my friend but we don't see eye to eye on that one..

[Isaurio]

I know. But i paid for it and not spending money on another one that u still have to find a place for it. Any custom takes work and time.

[mrg7243]

Use it as a oil cooler instead?

[Isaurio]

Look at my previews pic i have a oil cooler already. Is behind the intercooler

[kylecanthurdle]

the PS cooler is already installed, no need to get on his case about it. cars coming along great, im excited to see her up and running again!

[Isaurio]

the PS cooler is already installed, no need to get on his case about it. cars coming along great, im excited to see her up and running again!

Thanks. Hope is up and running soon.

[Ivory8g]

Everything is looking great! I'm so anxious to hear that first startup! we all know you are :)

[GOOSEY2099]

Ok ok fuck it.... Let's go finish it already.. I wana hear it run

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[Isaurio]

^ lol. Thanks for the pump bro. All it needs is to run the batt to the trunk install the gauges. All fluids.

Order more dam fittings. Finally i got the right thread for the outlander mani break booster vacuum. This will go from mani to vacuum block.

[specter6633]

damn isaurio we gonna have our first meet when you done. btw wheres ur garage i need ur expertise one of these weekeneds

[Isaurio]

Is the shop im working on. Is about your car. Send me a pm.

[deeznutz]

It's installed because "I" installed it! And ill get on his case about anything I want cause I'm doing most of the modifications.

[mko]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/03/19/5esadu6u.jpg

Depending on how much the engine rocks back and forth, and because you dont have any slack at the upper radiator hose, it may pull on the radiator and damage something there.

You should have used two 90 deg fittings and dropped the hose under the intake pipe.

just a thought tho.

[GOOSEY2099]

^ +1

[Isaurio]

It's installed because "I" installed it! And ill get on his case about anything I want cause I'm doing most of the modifications.

Thanks for clearing that out.

[Isaurio]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/03/19/5esadu6u.jpg

Depending on how much the engine rocks back and forth, and because you dont have any slack at the upper radiator hose, it may pull on the radiator and damage something there.

You should have used two 90 deg fittings and dropped the hose under the intake pipe.

just a thought tho.

Yeah deez and i was thinking about that. Mounts should be solid and im getting a engine dampener also. But i will look at that option is a little hard because of the radiator and the head location. Hose should have some flex ones it heats up.

[Isaurio]

More updates.
Got all my parts for my 3" custom exhaust system with V-band
Got magnaflow high flow cat = For daily use.
Test pipe = for my first start up and first 20 miles. Also for track days + Dyno
Painted downpipe with 2000 deg high heat paint.
Wrap them up with heat wrap and put more paint to protect and seal the wrap.

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Got the fitments. Need to weld all my v-band to the pipes so i could install the pipes. Next week.

[Isaurio]

Update.
Pressure test my oil ss lines. Put one qt of amsoil breaking oil to see any leaks on oil pan
Added amsoil gear oil to trani. Thats all set.
Added amsoil power steering fluids

Added new custom evo 8 ingalls dampener. "Thanks gtorque for the info"
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[OMEGA PHX]

Love the build man, attention to detail is whats all about ;)
Maybe a dumb question but if you have the polyurethane mounts do you really need the Ingalls stiffy? Is there to make the engine move even less? Does it attach to the strut tower untouched or is that the custom part?

[Isaurio]

^ correct is to give extra support. For the torque im making i need the engine solid also is good for track when shifting. It has 3 setting from soft to stiff.

You need the evos and just remake the whole ot fit ours. U need a strut bar on top to give support since the sides is not much surface to make a full circle.

Thanks man im trying here. Almost there

[greddy]

be careful stiffening up the motor mounting position too much, there comes a point when the vibrations have to go somewhere, and a little flex is good for longevity of your other components.

[Isaurio]

^ i know that. Like i said is main for track. Putting to soft setting for daily drive.

[greddy]

can you elaborate on what kind of track use you are talking about?

[Isaurio]

The g is not going to be a daily driver. Weekend car. Taking it to quarter mile track and a few circuit race track to do some laps.

[evo_powered_galant]

when do you think you will have it on the dino??

[Isaurio]

when do you think you will have it on the dino??

No time soon. I still have one month to finish, then the break in part 1k miles, fine tune them dyno. By the summer.

[Ivory8g]

Are those the evo upper and lower mounts on the stiffy?

[Isaurio]

Yeap. Bottom mount plug and play. The top all u need is to redo the mounts holes.

[Ivory8g]

Legit! I'm going to have to pick up a stiffy. Man your car is almost there, I'm excited!

[oakrdrs187]

I like the ingalls kit but I dont see it being too effective where its mounted. I know it was designed that way but wouldnt it be more beneficial for it to be monted to the head where the rear engine hoist hook was?


Like this:

http://my.prostreetonline.com/photos/data/500/EngineBay1.jpg

[Isaurio]

update. I been taking the time to dissemble my rom to be able to have more power over my fuel delivery. I got IPW adjustment on crank. I wanted this to control how much fuel needs to be deliver at cold start\crank. By default the G has a low value making dump a lot of fuel to get the car to start this is due to the size of the injectors.

since i have 1200cc injectors by leaving the default value and not increasing to match the new injector i will dump ridiculous amount of fuel, making it hard to start or even wash my piston rings.

here is the pic so far for IPW Comp vs time.
http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww267/isaurio/Isaurios%20Turbo%20Built%204g64/CrankingIPWCompVStime_zps69805e12.png (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/isaurio/media/Isaurios%20Turbo%20Built%204g64/CrankingIPWCompVStime_zps69805e12.png.html)

[Isaurio]

Update:
90% of wiring done
Added breaking oil
Added coolant.
Dion and I made a improve tb cable bracket for the outlander mani
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http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/14/ygebedum.jpg lol

Xxx your fingers tomm hope we get to wake her up.

[GOOSEY2099]

Good Luck!

[Isaurio]

^thanks bro

[wetamup2k3g]

OOO I hope all goes well fam! Yall have been on a roll, let's hope this wakes right up!

[OMEGA PHX]

Looks great, my tb cable bracket look similar to yours ;)
I know you've been busy but I see you haven't gotten to making the tb spacer to make that area boost leak free once the tb shaft seals have also been replaced, you'll see what I'm talking about on your first boost leak test lol

[Isaurio]

^ yeah i know this is something that i need to look at. I will get it fixed ones she is running. Wont hit crazy boost at breaking.

[Isaurio]

OOO I hope all goes well fam! Yall have been on a roll, let's hope this wakes right up!

I hope so too. Let see how she reacts. She is mad at me because i have taken her out in a good minute. Lol

[evo_powered_galant]

how much do you think you got lift before you are done so we can see some hp numbers!!!

[Isaurio]

Engine is done. Now is to troubleshoot some fuel pressure problem. Hope i get her running soon. Tom i will change the fpr and double check the pump.

[Silvertune]

Looking good.

I got a PM From you but it was blank.

[keith6110]

Fingers crossed it's nothing major. I like that Vibrant Distribution block you've got there!


Looking good.

I got a PM From you but it was blank.

Ha! Isaurio shooting blanks xD

[deeznutz]

Ha! Isaurio shooting blanks xD[/QUOTE]

Lmaooof

[Isaurio]

Ja ja ja. Very funny.

[Isaurio]

First startup.
http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww267/isaurio/Isaurios%20Turbo%20Built%204g64/th_IMG_2302-1_zpsd2f0ea0d.jpg (http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww267/isaurio/Isaurios%20Turbo%20Built%204g64/IMG_2302-1_zpsd2f0ea0d.mp4)

First crank and bam started right up. Had a crank signal problem. fixed it and start it like stock..

Mind you the injectors are Precision 1200CC and RPW 272 cam, .024 NGK spark plugs. Crank was money.

Now i have oil pressure problem. Will have to check internal parts now.

[wetamup2k3g]

LOL was that D talking shit? You guys are funny. Congrats on the startup, fix that oil prob quick bros!

[carl3g]

Good job guys. Cant wait to see this at Corona again.

[deeznutz]

Yep it was me Greg lol a day out of surgery mind you.

[keith6110]

Nice! Engine is nice and sound.

[Isaurio]

^ thanks bro

[Ivory8g]

HAHA just like how I imagined you D lol :)
Good work you guys!

[Gotti]

Good work. Did you install oil squiter in the block or you don't need it because of forge piston? I'm getting close to starting my turbo project.

[Isaurio]

Not need it for forge internals. Internal is all forged

[Isaurio]

Okey guys. Round 2

Pull out the engine again and doubled checked oil pump. Balance shaft bearings. Everything was by the book.

Now i had a evo 9 oil housing. Not much of a different between the evo 8 it just have the extra 1/4 npt for the oil pressure. I think also the pressure springs are different.

Put the evo 8 housing. Put everything back together and so far after 10 min of running no oil light. I will check pressure with mechanical gauge.

Now i have a supper lean condition need to to check the problem

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Magnetic plug
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[xd_01]

that sucks you had to pull the motor, you know i never seen anyone use that port on the filter housing bracket for anything so i dont know if that had anything to do with it. the 1/4" bspt ports are the ones always used for oil feeds or sensors.

you didnt mentioned if you oil primed your motor before you did the timing belt but its a good way to test the oil pump beforoe you drop it in. when brian built my motor we did just that and got no oil surfacing to the head, we pulled the oil pump cover off and opened the actual oil pump gear cover thats on the inside and packed it with vasaline. put it all back together, tried again and bam oil started pouring out the top of the head. the quack machinists that built the rotating assembly warned me this might happen with a new oil pump cover and that its sort of a hit and miss thing and told me exactly what do if it does happen. next oil pump cover i use i will be sure to pack the gears with vasaline before i install it.

another thing most guys change the oil thermostat to a tomei, you get it from extreme psi. its the funny looking brass thing next to where you had your oil feed plumbed into.

what turbo are you running ??

[Isaurio]

^ yeah. We did not post prime the oil pump. We crank the engine a few times without the crank sensor or the fuel pump. So oil could flow. I guess it was an issue with the evo 9 oil housing. Not too sure. I also prime the oil cooler so it wont take long to fill up with oil. I think that did the trick. I not to sure i will double check pressure with mechanical gauge to see where she at. Oil is coming up the head since i open the oil cap and oil was coming up.

Also i notice. With the mixture of the amsoil breaking oil and the and the engine assembly lube oil got a lil thick. So is twice as hard to flow around the cooler and lines. Making lose pressure

Is a garret 60-1 turbo. I got it to 12psi and 5psi spring rate on tru boost control. Just for break in.

[xd_01]

thats another thing, you dont need the oil cooler hooked up for start up. actually its better you dont so you dont contaminate the cooler and lines with assembly lube and and metal shaving from moving parts that are getting to know each other. thats how i did mine, ran it for about 15min let it heat cycle, shut it down drained the oil using a paper towel to sift any shavings out of the oil (really just out of curiousity you dont have to do that part). then re-torque the head studs, filled with cheap penzoil not the baller stuff you got and then ran it for 1k before th dyno.

cleaning the oil cooler and lines out really good would be something you might want to do, maybe even the the turbo feed line and maybe blow some air through the turbo oil passage. im so petro though when it comes to things like this that i would replace the cooler right off the bat, my b&m cooler is only $80 so to me i see it as disposable lol.

[Isaurio]

Lol. Good ideal. I wi do that. Thanks

[Isaurio]

So. here is the 2.4L stock Crank fueling. This is great to adjust if you go with bigger injectors. That way PCM/ECU dont OD the fuel at crank. It will help with cold start crank with bigger injectors.

http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww267/isaurio/Isaurios%20Turbo%20Built%204g64/CrankingFuelIPW24L_zps9c93df14.png (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/isaurio/media/Isaurios%20Turbo%20Built%204g64/CrankingFuelIPW24L_zps9c93df14.png.html)


Got this to leave the stock oil pressure switch and add my prosport evo oil pressure behind the block.
http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww267/isaurio/Isaurios%20Turbo%20Built%204g64/Oilpressureblock_zps1010adbd.jpg (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/isaurio/media/Isaurios%20Turbo%20Built%204g64/Oilpressureblock_zps1010adbd.jpg.html)

[keith6110]

Nice!

[Ivory8g]

yep that cranking ipw was a pain in the ass to work around when my injector size went up. tuned it out through the maf so I wouldnt be flooding the cylinders when I fired up. good stuff so far man

[Isaurio]

He is a second start up. Got mechanical gauge and she is reading 60-90 psi behind the block around 1000-1500 rpm
Thats a good sing

http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww267/isaurio/Isaurios%20Turbo%20Built%204g64/th_4g64TMovie-Startup_zps51d7c62f.jpg (http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww267/isaurio/Isaurios%20Turbo%20Built%204g64/4g64TMovie-Startup_zps51d7c62f.mp4)

[Ivory8g]

nice strong idle after the car caught itself!
gotta fix the link though. I just copied the link and opened it in a new tab in my browser and it worked.

[Isaurio]

Um i think is because is private. I will fix it.

Yeah the 1200cc pte injectors are a pain to tune and get it to stay stable. My o2 is maxing out at 25% rich at idle.

I will jump to the 650cc and tune that until i get it to a pro-tuner and fix that 1200cc

But men she sounds strong.

[wetamup2k3g]

But men she sounds strong.

Does she ever! Good stuff bro!

[GalantES-2001]

Trying to fix the link:


http://vid726.photobucket.com/albums/ww267/isaurio/Isaurios%20Turbo%20Built%204g64/4g64TMovie-Startup_zps51d7c62f.mp4


He is a second start up. Got mechanical gauge and she is reading 60-90 psi behind the block around 1000-1500 rpm
Thats a good sing

http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww267/isaurio/Isaurios%20Turbo%20Built%204g64/th_4g64TMovie-Startup_zps51d7c62f.jpg (http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww267/isaurio/Isaurios%20Turbo%20Built%204g64/4g64TMovie-Startup_zps51d7c62f.mp4)

[keith6110]

She sounds real good man!

[Isaurio]

^ thanks bro. She is not even stable. Open headers lol

[Isaurio]

After patching the leaks and some more injector tuning. Got her running a little longer. Better idle

http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww267/isaurio/Isaurios%20Turbo%20Built%204g64/th_8BE6C398-00AE-4CB2-92DE-16C884218C3B-2344-00000256C112894A_zps6164cd1a.jpg (http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww267/isaurio/Isaurios%20Turbo%20Built%204g64/8BE6C398-00AE-4CB2-92DE-16C884218C3B-2344-00000256C112894A_zps6164cd1a.mp4)

Crazy loads at low rpm. The 2.4 87mm could really move some air

http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww267/isaurio/Isaurios%20Turbo%20Built%204g64/null_zps9e734954.jpg

[kylecanthurdle]

How come there's so many empty spaces? Shouldn't they be all filled with values?

[Isaurio]

Not really it depends on the load and rpm is reading. When u do 3rd gear pull it only show the cell the ecu is hitting skip others. Also it depends how long in average it stays active in a given cell.

My cells only shows crank and idle.

[Isaurio]

videos links fixed

[quagmire]

Very nice

[kylecanthurdle]

Is this the evo ecu?

[Isaurio]

no. all stock pcm

[deeznutz]

^^^acually it's a stock modified PCM... Because no other stock PCM has what yours has ;)

[Isaurio]

^^^^ 100% true that. forgot to add that. Thanks buddy.

[keith6110]

After patching the leaks and some more injector tuning. Got her running a little longer. Better idle

http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww267/isaurio/Isaurios%20Turbo%20Built%204g64/th_8BE6C398-00AE-4CB2-92DE-16C884218C3B-2344-00000256C112894A_zps6164cd1a.jpg (http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww267/isaurio/Isaurios%20Turbo%20Built%204g64/8BE6C398-00AE-4CB2-92DE-16C884218C3B-2344-00000256C112894A_zps6164cd1a.mp4)

Crazy loads at low rpm. The 2.4 87mm could really move some air

http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww267/isaurio/Isaurios%20Turbo%20Built%204g64/null_zps9e734954.jpg


Damn she sounds good and idle seems to be fixed!

The table you have pulled up, is that in evoscan?

Also do you just delete the tables in evoscan to NOT log them? I see yours looked like a list of 15-20 instead of my usual 40-50 lol.

[Isaurio]

Damn she sounds good and idle seems to be fixed!

The table you have pulled up, is that in evoscan?

Also do you just delete the tables in evoscan to NOT log them? I see yours looked like a list of 15-20 instead of my usual 40-50 lol.

Thats evoscan log.

Evo scan long on live tables usual picks up loads and rpm the pcm hits constant this speed up data log. If you log evey bit it becomes slow and big data

The idle pcm trying really hard to make up for the boost leak. But she need the injector dial in 100%

[Ivory8g]

niiiiiice strong idle. lol wtf rpm are you seeing 100% load at? haha

[Isaurio]

^^^LOL thats at 2000 RPM when i look at my tables.

[Ivory8g]

Bro wth?! Haha I am so waiting to see a pull on a dyno or a virtual dyno graph. :)

[Gotti]

Got a question on your head gasket. Are using the 4g64 or 4g63 87mm head gasket?

[Isaurio]

63 87mm

[Isaurio]

Ok guys. With a few research and some calculation. I got a base data for the FIC injectors. I compare the 2.0 evos scaling and latency for FIC 750 and 720 and added 20% more to compensate for the extra displacement. It should bring me close on my fuel trims

excel preview that i made for the 2.4L 87mm. This is for my setup.

http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww267/isaurio/Isaurios%20Turbo%20Built%204g64/FIC720-750galant25Lscaling_zps180d9587.png (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/isaurio/media/Isaurios%20Turbo%20Built%204g64/FIC720-750galant25Lscaling_zps180d9587.png.html)

[Ivory8g]

That is a very nice layout! You are correct on the 20% number thats for sure

[keith6110]

Nice! I used your excel layout and the 3.5L compared to the evo.

I did 3.5L / 6 = .583 * 4cyl = 2.333L ~17% Would this be correct? lol!

[Isaurio]

Yes. Now that should give you a base. U need to reduce x=% fuel.

Use gts maf scaling and smoothing

And bump the injector scaling by x=% of the stock evo. Increasing it should reduce fuel

* i notice your calculation is a little much. It should be less percentage due to the limit of the 560cc and ecuflash.

[keith6110]

Very nice, thanks =)

[Isaurio]

Very nice, thanks =)

Keith i made some raw calculation and came up with a great formula for injector scaling. This should help you. Like i said base to get it start it. Then fine tune the after that. Check this out

We have a fuel pressure of 43.5PSI with vacuum it goes down to 38-40 depends of your CR. SO:

38psi lets say for most application. Mine is at 40psi

38psi/43.5psi*100 = 87.35% so the rest of 12.65% this is what you do

You have evos 560cc injectors your calculation will be
560cc-12.65% = 490cc in ecuflash calculation is 513cc Final tune by Mitsubishi *for EVOS*.

So now. Your bore is 90mm evos is 85mm. 90-85= 5% "mine doubles triples because of the stroke" evo is 88mm compare to your 85.8mm" making the 4g64 100mm stroke. Making it 15% 20% more fuel.

So now we have an % remember this is ECU flash injector scaling fueling. Evo will flow more air per cylinder because of the stroke of 88mm that is why if you put evo injectors to the v6, injectors will flow more fuel making your AFR rich because of the stroke with 513cc scaling.

Final calculation. 490cc+5% 514.5=515cc, this is a base depends on the head flow and mods. In ECU flash there are constant values that default by the formula and Mitsubishi code formula.

Your base 515cc on ECUflash will be 532cc evos is 513cc base on the 490cc calc

if you see ecuslash scaling and you use the [] you will see 496cc making too rich default evos mitsu made it 513cc after their final tune "still made them rich to save knock", yours will be 532cc after your 515cc calculation we made.

Hope it helps. you need to leave it at 532cc as base it should get you close to +-3%. I would use the GTS maf scaling and smoothing and work for last after you get your trims down to -+3% or so with scaling and letancy.

532cc scaling *increase will make you leaner*
-5% from latency of stock evo *decrease latency will make you leaner*
http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww267/isaurio/Isaurios%20Turbo%20Built%204g64/evo560ccwith6g74latency_zps33c07396.png (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/isaurio/media/Isaurios%20Turbo%20Built%204g64/evo560ccwith6g74latency_zps33c07396.png.html)

[keith6110]

Very nice man! I'll save this to my records =)

My base fuel pressure is 48lbs without vacuum and it goes to 42 with. I should turn it to 40 then and start tuning from that. Thanks bro, hopefully I can give her another go this weekend lol. I about finished my wire tuck and have to figure out another way for my intake to run before I try again.

[Isaurio]

Very nice man! I'll save this to my records =)

My base fuel pressure is 48lbs without vacuum and it goes to 42 with. I should turn it to 40 then and start tuning from that. Thanks bro, hopefully I can give her another go this weekend lol. I about finished my wire tuck and have to figure out another way for my intake to run before I try again.

Yes. Dont matter. the calculation will be the same. 12.5% 490cc. It still drop around 38psi at curb idle with vacuum. vacuum off at 47-50psi. Make sure is around 38-40 psi at idle with vacuum on *no more no less* Adjust pressure accordingly with standard values 47-50psi. if you not getting pressure right double check the fuel pump housing the plastic return line, you made it bigger? If not you should!

This base if everything is on point. should get you leaner after close loop kicks in. Like i said dont trust to much the ROM you have. If you could get the same rom but a very stock one with big map would be a plus.

[keith6110]

Yes I still have to make that plastic return part bigger in the fuel pump assembly. I will try a couple of things with the rom (starting from the one I got originally) and make adjustments on that. Thanks for helping me out man, appreciate it a lot.

[Isaurio]

Yes I still have to make that plastic return part bigger in the fuel pump assembly. I will try a couple of things with the rom (starting from the one I got originally) and make adjustments on that. Thanks for helping me out man, appreciate it a lot.

Any time bro. Hope you get it rolling before bbq here in july. Im trying yo finish up already

I nee to add tb. Injectors. Bov. Radiator
And just got black carpet and SEM paint for the interior trims

[keith6110]

Hey FYI -
I used a formula from the evo x forums awhile back that says this:

(New Injector size*stock injector value) / stock injector size = New injector value

This works out to be (560cc*220)/210cc = 587 value. Why do you think the stock injector value is 220 instead of lower than what the injector is rated? That's the confusing part to me. I will try the 532 value first and see if injector latency makes it better.

When I had the injectors set at 587 before, I couldn't start it. Then I changed latency down on the entire column by .024 and it runs rich. It's almost like it needs to be adjusted by .012 but obviously the next increment is bigger. Maybe I do need to put the smaller injector scaling in which will allow the car to start at the higher latency values.

Don't mean to think inside your thread lol!

[Isaurio]

They lower the scaling because of the duty cycle. You dont want to hit 100% duty because it damage the injectors.

It usually 15-20% less than the rate cc. And the rate cc is never on point. If it says 560cc sometimes on 80% duty cycle they flow at 520cc.

587 is way to high for the 560cc. Remember that formula is for a 4cly setup. V6 will be a little different.

The higher the scaling the leaner it gets. When u go above the max rate is like turning it off the injectors.

What is the diamante rate at. It cant be a 210cc injectors

Eclipse it cant be 210cc
Eclipse rom for a 3.0 is at 220cc so injectors most be 260cc or so. Diamante most be a 280-300cc

[keith6110]

okay I got it...

In theory if I should be doing 532 in my scaling then 560/532 = 105% so 1.05 * 220 (original scaling) = ~232cc. That might be correct lol.

Also the diamante has identical injectors to the 2.4L galant. So what is the oem 2.4L scaling an injector size? This is what I should really be using. I should be looking at the diamante scalings instead of eclipse gt scalings.

[Isaurio]

Lol yes you do. 3.0 to 3.5. 20% more fuel

The galant 2.4l is 232cc on ecuflash

You cant use that formula since our stock injectors are high indep and are different than the low indep and high flow evos specially from a 4cly injectors to an v6 setup.

[Isaurio]

Update:

Tb that dont work with outlander mani
3.5 diamante tb
3.0 galant or eclipse tb
Reason. Mani flange too small. It leaves about a gap that the gasket to fully seal. For boost no good. Im getting -15 vacuum at idle so is pullin major un-meter air that is making the afr lean.

Tb that works
Evo 8 tb *is money*
03 outlander mani
This are 65mm like the v6 3.0. Perfect fit

Im running the evo 8 with evo 8 gasket. And is money. Need evo tps and IAC. Outlander IAC and tps also works. Same part numbers.

Tps needs re-wire since is on the other side than stock

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/09/vu4u3umu.jpg
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Got new hks ssv4 new
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Custom bracket to fit the tb cable. Dion is good making things like that.

New trani and oil filter. Filtermag. This magnets are no joke. For better engine maintenance on breaking and after.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/09/3ygahese.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/09/tu8ubasy.jpg

Replaced to FIC 750cc. Already installed and ready to tune.

Tomm im going to add the injectors values and boost leak test and fire up again. Hope i could take her out.

[finald8ta]

Hold up!!!! So your say the people who have the outlander mani and a 6g62+ V6 TBs won't make a complete seal?
Against the flange on the mani?

I thought -15 vac on idle was normal!

How can that be. What's the vac on a evo 8/9 or other boosted car?


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[Isaurio]

Hold up!!!! So your say the people who have the outlander mani and a 6g62+ V6 TBs won't make a complete seal?
Against the flange on the mani?

I thought -15 vac on idle was normal!

How can that be. What's the vac on a evo 8/9 or other boosted car?


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Yes but not with 272 cam. Im brining more air. Any lil leak will affect bad.

Not sure on evos with hot cams.

The leak is pretty bad. If you have outlander and v6 tb. The best thing to check the leak is to check your fuel trims. If your low trims is + or max at 12.5%

[finald8ta]

Rotate the gasket 180* I had a simular issue and we didn't have a complete seal,

It's just odd mmm. Many people over the yrs didn't have any issue swapping out TBs on 2.4 motors, with a v6. TB

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[OMEGA PHX]

Rotate the gasket 180* I had a simular issue and we didn't have a complete seal,

It's just odd mmm. Many people over the yrs didn't have any issue swapping out TBs on 2.4 motors, with a v6. TB

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This problem only appears when using the outlander IM and 72 or 74 TB's, and It's obviously more noticeable when boosted, with a simple boost leak test you'll find out you can't hold any pressure because of it, this hasn't been documented since nobody had tried to boost with this IM/TB combo.

This is w/o a gasket but you can see that there is no surface on that area to make the gasket seal.
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z290/OMEGAPHX/Turbo%20project/74TBOutlanderIM_zps6b82da78.jpg (http://s195.photobucket.com/user/OMEGAPHX/media/Turbo%20project/74TBOutlanderIM_zps6b82da78.jpg.html)

When dealing with this I thought about the evo 8 TB but I just wanted to use what I already had and not spend $80+ on a new tb, this would be the recommended solution instead of the spacer I used.

[mrg7243]

Huh I wonder if that is why I kept popping the lean bank 1 code

[finald8ta]

In this pic that's the 74 TB correct?

Because I'm looking at my 72 and its different, that hole below the top right bolt is more inward on my 72 TB..... I'll post a pic up with the a72 TB on the outlander mani just to show you. I'm positive that I have a good seal with the 72 TB and will still work out fine,

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[finald8ta]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/09/umasene3.jpg


Here's a pic of the 72 TB


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[deeznutz]

yes the hole is less pronounced on the 72 and there is a right way and wrong way of installing the T/B gasket but as Omega already stated it is a combo issue when using it with the outlander intake mani and the 72-74 t/b, now on a n/a motor you will see no leak if the gasket is installed properly but when you add boost to the mix its a no go leaks like crazy.

[Isaurio]

Rotate the gasket 180* I had a simular issue and we didn't have a complete seal,

It's just odd mmm. Many people over the yrs didn't have any issue swapping out TBs on 2.4 motors, with a v6. TB

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No help with gasket.

Bro my 2.4 is a 2.5 with 272 cam and a big turbo compare to the an NA setup.

Different ball park

[Isaurio]

In this pic that's the 74 TB correct?

Because I'm looking at my 72 and its different, that hole below the top right bolt is more inward on my 72 TB..... I'll post a pic up with the a72 TB on the outlander mani just to show you. I'm positive that I have a good seal with the 72 TB and will still work out fine,

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Yes still the same issue. But on the 72 the hole or gap is less. But still dont hold any boost. I tested and hold about less dan 3-5 psi and looses it in about 10 sec. Dont hold pressure.

If you check your fuel trims and your o2 feed back is going to be a positive feedback meaning lean=adding more fuel to stay at 14.7 afr

[Isaurio]

Huh I wonder if that is why I kept popping the lean bank 1 code

Yes correct. That was the issue. Over time you will max the low and mid trims. Code comes on when:

Low is max at +12.5%
Mid max at +25%

This are lean condition and ecu is adding:

Low 12% + whatever o2 see in real time more fuel

Mid 25% + whatever o2 see in real time more fuel

Ecu is trying to make up for the extra air coming in that was not meter by the MAF

I had this issue on my NA with my 74 tb.
Low was pin at 12.5% did not know why i was thinking because of the cai. But now is for sure it was the leak on the tb. I got it down by adjusting the latency and tell the ecu add more fuel. Got trims on .1% serious tuning to get it there

[finald8ta]

No help with gasket.

Bro my 2.4 is a 2.5 with 272 cam and a big turbo compare to the an NA setup.

Different ball park

I hear yea, looks like ill be looking at getting an evo TB then

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[finald8ta]

Good looking out bro. Just tying to understand what you guys are doing and I completly understand the situation,

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[Isaurio]

Good looking out bro. Just tying to understand what you guys are doing and I completly understand the situation,

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They doing it because is a great add-on but dont know the problem. Gasket cover the hole but dont seal it 100%. They dont notice big change on NA because the computer is trying to make up for it. But you need a spacer for the v6 tb or go with evo or outlander.

[Galanttuner10]

15 vacuum is good with 272 cams. more duration, means longer over lap which means less vacuum. I have 272 duration stroker cams and im looking to be around the 13-16 vacumm range, with 280 cams its around 10 vacuum. I am sure that seal wasnt helping and could be a nice boost leak tho. good info for 8G people.

[Isaurio]

Ok. After a few hr of tuning the injectors 750cc. I got the G to fire right up even when engine is warm. Adjusted the IPW on crank. and adjusted scaling. She holds idle but for some odd reason she is showing "o2 and wideband that is lean" 24.8% on the o2 feedback and 12.5% on the low trims. Got a CEL of lean of curse after the 12.5 lean trims.

I'm going crazy trying to find the dam issue. Exhaust leak or another boost leak? The scaling and latency are very close since she is staring and holding idle. But stupid o2 is messing everything up.

PS. on open loop she is fine cold start. AFR are money at 14.7-15 like the map shows. but when it goes to open look o2 reads lean. making the ECU add extra fuel and mess everything up. WTF.

[evo_powered_galant]

how is the tuning going?

[Isaurio]

how is the tuning going?

I got the injector scaling closed. Now is at 5-10% not 24% anymore

It dont turn off on me. Tomm will put my front seat and take her for a ride. ^_^

More tuning needs to be done. Latency is next

[evo_powered_galant]

and if i read right.. you are using a stock ecu right? wouldn't a evo ecu be better as far as tuning?

[deeznutz]

^^^Lmao noobs smh

[Ivory8g]

lol..... some people's children.

[Isaurio]

Lets tuning and breaking begging. She was tested a few times on the road and she is healthy. Still needs to tune injectors better. The 272 dont help a lot of overlap. But getting there

Exhaust 3" is done. She is a lil low now. I think i need a bigger and longer resonator

Here is a small clip with the exhaust. Mean idle.

http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww267/isaurio/Isaurios%20Turbo%20Built%204g64/th_D71CDAD6-C1BC-4825-8913-FAD6619AFC8F-26671-00001427B07E2D04_zps7c750582.jpg (http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww267/isaurio/Isaurios%20Turbo%20Built%204g64/D71CDAD6-C1BC-4825-8913-FAD6619AFC8F-26671-00001427B07E2D04_zps7c750582.mp4)