MMCS and then some...

[echo12]

Does anyone by chance have the rockford fosgate/MMCS wiring diagrams?

Anyone knows how to make better use of the "voice cmds"/ phone/bluetooth enabled...whatevers?


Acquired a 09' Ralliart and...well, i want bluetooth to stream tunes but... Should've gotten a 335i for that.

Anyways.... ideas, hopes, dreams, suggestions?

[echo12]

Bump~

[demond0d5]

if you give me a year make model engine and any other details about whatever you're messing with that differs from another vehicle I can get the diagram for you...just gotta know exactly what I'm looking for on shopkeypro

[echo12]

2009 9Gen Ralliart 3.8L
MMCS - Rockford Fosgate

And in the process of you can find a pinout or sketch for the internals and wiring for the MZ607411EX I can finally convert this box to a bluetooth receiver ;)

[demond0d5]

gallant or lancer? I'm assuming lancer right

[echo12]

Nope 9G. A Galant.

[demond0d5]

haha yeah meant to say not* lancer

[echo12]

I'll forgive u... Just this one time xD

[demond0d5]

this is with amplifier right (not familiar with 9g at all) ((or oem setups for that matter...all my stuff has been ripped out and redone)

[echo12]

This is the ipod adapter that is OEM but does not charge the iPod nor feeds power to the dock bluetooth receiver.
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/11/a15acdcd9cb3156e4b407ff0cc7e8568.jpg

This is the head unit/radio. Installed in the car is the Rockford Fosgate amp
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/11/dd3e9f207f0cb2dd94b7482e95f86141.jpg

This is the faceplate of the radio replaced to black for eye candy purposes
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/11/1c9008b8b334e7def035503c1083bc47.jpg

[demond0d5]

ok here is the entire diagram(s) for the radio in a 2009 Mitsubishi galant 3.8l eng ralliart with amplifier:

http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p588/demond0d5/9gradiowiringdiagram1.png (http://s1157.photobucket.com/user/demond0d5/media/9gradiowiringdiagram1.png.html)
http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p588/demond0d5/9gradiowiringdiagram2.png (http://s1157.photobucket.com/user/demond0d5/media/9gradiowiringdiagram2.png.html)
http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p588/demond0d5/9gRadioWiringDiagram3.png (http://s1157.photobucket.com/user/demond0d5/media/9gRadioWiringDiagram3.png.html)
http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p588/demond0d5/9gRadioWiringDiagram4.png (http://s1157.photobucket.com/user/demond0d5/media/9gRadioWiringDiagram4.png.html)
http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p588/demond0d5/9gRadioWiringDiagram5.png (http://s1157.photobucket.com/user/demond0d5/media/9gRadioWiringDiagram5.png.html)
http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p588/demond0d5/9gRadioWiringDiagram6.png (http://s1157.photobucket.com/user/demond0d5/media/9gRadioWiringDiagram6.png.html)


p.s. photobucket is a major pain in my dick btw...

[demond0d5]

save the images to your computer, open them in paint, and crop them together to get a better looking diagram but thisll do the job worse case scenerio

[echo12]

That'll def work.
I was hoping to see the signal names, but this is def a Huge step ahead!!

Any luck w that MZ07411EX?
This is the one I've been trying to figure out for 5 years now...

[demond0d5]

no results in shopkeypro...you could probably use a dvom to figure out what you need if you know what you're trying to do...just add in your own wires whatever you need

[echo12]

For the MMCS itself I've been trying to find a rom perhaps to flash the current look and feel.
For what I've read and hunted the internet down this far, no one has taken the task. Regardless knowing what pins and cables go in an out really help Bc it allows for the possibility of developing an integration of a pc w the touch screen~maybe/hopefully.

In regards to the ipod module, it has been a long time coming that I've looked into the possibility of adding a bluetooth receiver (audio sink) to the stock radio. Originally I figured since the iPod connection is already available, it would be easy. But BOy am I wrong!

I have taken apart the module, done extensive research and still I have no power feeding the iPod not the bluetooth adapter even when I have 5v & 12v signals available.

I haven't played w the 12v yet but that's being worked on by adding an IC 7805 or 7803. It is currently a work in progress.

I will update as in have results but I don't think anyone has actually taken the time to develop this. Hopefully soon I'll be able to this.

[shotta12]

Hey all...new here

Just bought a 2012 Galant SE

But ofcourse there was no MMCS Map disc....so no navigation for me

Does anyone know where i can download the software or buy the disc?

[echo12]

A quick google search can help you that. You can find maps for your mmcs on the cheap.

I bet if you look in the right corner of the Internet Yu can find an ISO for it too.

[shotta12]

I've searched for the iso but I can't find it.. I'll keep searching

[echo12]

Pm'd

[echo12]

Few updates...

MMCS: I have continued my research looking for possible flashes or other possibilities with this unit. All I've found is that there is no flash, the other "cooler" version is the lancer or outlander version. And I just saw a video for a speed sensor override from our Aussie friends, that include a 13 pin din that charge the ipod. It is supposed to be from http://resourceit.com.au/mmcs but the site either no longer exists, it is not accessible from the U.S. & A or, the Internet monsters ate it. So there goes hope... Again.
On a side note I am looking into the possibility of tapping into the back of the MMCS with a switch to send another composite video signal through it. Similar to the video I've seen from ur 9G Ru friends. My concept would be without changing our head unit.
More research and into this later.

Ipod-Bt Mod: this has been my kryptonite for a while...
I went to the shack of radios not too long ago to acquire several items in order to further enhance my understanding of the adapter and how signals are being sent through. I know I am closer than I think, just need the time and patience to sit and figure this out further, but I'm almost there.... I can't taste it.

More as it develops...

[shotta12]

Nice..

Ill be keeping up with the thread.. Ive been searching every corner of the internet for an ISO..

Might just try the Aussie version to see what happens lol

[echo12]

I don't even know if there would even be that possibility. I think auMMCS is same as usMMCS

[echo12]

https://vimeo.com/115501271

[shotta12]

Sick!

What is the Adapter? You just plug it into the 12v charger or is there more involved? Where'd you get it?

Nice work.

[echo12]

The adapter is
P/N: MZ607411EX. This adapter comes w a plug to attach to a +12vccd signal but it doesn't affect the adapter itself.
I checked...no change.

This adapter was developed pre iPhone 4, essentially powering the devices through FireWire, which of course is no longer used.

[OtotheP]

I know this is thread necromancy but did anyone ever work out how to get composite video into the mmcs screen?
I've got a 2007 Galant Ralliart that I want to add a backup camera to, and I know it was an option on the later Galant and endeavor models, but from what I can tell, they all use the same part number for the screen. Does anyone have a pinout or wiring diagram for the screen part?

If you are still trying to get bluetooth or ipod stuff working I recommend getting a GROM BT-3. I just installed one and it works great. Even the steering wheel controls work. It comes with a harness that just plugs into the back.

[Sean9G]

Why not just replace the stereo with aftermarket? You can bypass the $300 wiring piece simply by wiring your speaker wires to the output side of the amp (behind the glove box/upper passenger kick) Everything will still work fine and you will have way better connectivity. Thats what I did in mine and now I rock dual screens

[echo12]

Sean.... Post us some pics man...
It would really be good to see some ideas.

Otothep: I think I have a wiring diagram... Let me see if I can locate it

[OtotheP]

Changing the head unit isn't really an option and I'd rather keep it stock.
I know the stock units in some of the later cars support a backup camera, and from what I can tell, they all use the same screen unit.
My question is, does the camera plug in to the screen directly, or does it plug into the head unit?
If it's the screen then I should be able to make it work with any camera, but if it's dependent on the head unit I might need a later model. The pinouts I have of my model head unit mention RGB but not composite (that I can tell).

If anyone has any detailed info on this it would be a big help, I know I'm not the only one who wants to be able to add a composite input to the screen.

[echo12]

For what I recall I believe that the backup cam is a composite line triggered by the gear in reverse... I'm pretty positive one of the Russian modders did something where he had his mmcs, aftermarket head unit and headrest screens all showing the same video and he did something to the mmcs to have it con that composite video all the time...

Give me some time and I will look it up... I know that video is on YouTube as well

[Sean9G]

Here are the pics that echo asked for:
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll14/Sean9G/2015-07-26%2017.04.08%20HDR_zpszv5jizfe.jpg (http://s284.photobucket.com/user/Sean9G/media/2015-07-26%2017.04.08%20HDR_zpszv5jizfe.jpg.html)
All that happened to the main screen of the mmcs is the radio icon disappered

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll14/Sean9G/2015-07-26%2017.04.39%20HDR_zpsgo1hf6ho.jpg (http://s284.photobucket.com/user/Sean9G/media/2015-07-26%2017.04.39%20HDR_zpsgo1hf6ho.jpg.html)
The nav still works and everything else as well. Although the maps are from 2007 and not all that helpful so its not used really. I also have the aftermarket screen with every type of connection possible for anyone looking for lots of connectivity it is a good way to go but obviously not for everyone. I have the pin out diagram for the amp as well if anyone is interested in trying

[OtotheP]

I've found an OEM backup camera on ebay going cheap, it looks like it has a square plug on it that would fit the white square plug on the back of the screen. I'm tempted to buy it and plug it in and see what happens, but I've got no idea how to get the screen out of the dash. Does anyone have any tips?

[Sean9G]

The top little hood is just push clips use a plastic trim removal tool or a flathead with a cloth so you dont scratch anything. It will pull forwards and out and then if I remember correctly there are just a few screws holding the screen in. Just a heads up, if you have acc power in while the screen is unplugged your srs light will likely come on. Not really a big deal just an annoying light. Good Luck. Any questions or if you want pics let me know and I can probably pop mine apart for you

[echo12]

Great post Sean9G

[echo12]

Did you get the steering controls to work with the pioneer?

Btw, this was the video I was referring to a few posts ago...


http://youtu.be/06mTEJ6Wbxc

[Sean9G]

Yes i did. There are 2 options I know that work for sure. One is made by PAC audio (Part # SWI-RC(http://www.pac-audio.com/productDetails.aspx?ProductId=1016&CategoryID=29)) or you can use a piece made by idatalink (who also makes remote starter bypasses) that will do steering wheel controls as well as a ton of other cool features like read check engine codes since they interface with the vehicles data system (http://maestro.idatalink.com/product/product/product_id/102/vehicle_make_id/30/vehicle_year_id/2007/vehicle_model_id/257/vehicle_audio_id/4131) Personally I would say go for the idata piece if you are considering it since they are the same price at most places and provides a lot more

[OtotheP]

Btw, this was the video I was referring to a few posts ago...


http://youtu.be/06mTEJ6Wbxc

Thanks! That video is exactly what I want to do! Do you have any more info on how he set it up? I just sent him a PM so hopefully I'll hear something back.
I managed to pop the lid off but can't work out what wire goes where without a wiring guide.

[Sean9G]

There seems to be a few people interested so I'll do some testing and try to figure it out tonight and if I find anything ill post a walkthrough

[OtotheP]

I found these images linked from club9g.ru which will help a bit, but if anyone has higher res versions it would be great.
http://midiser.users.photofile.ru/photo/midiser/151017828/xlarge/169328050.jpg
http://midiser.users.photofile.ru/photo/midiser/151017828/xlarge/169328052.jpg

[OtotheP]

OK, so after tracking down a bunch of posts by midiser on Russian forums it looks like what needs to be done is cutting open the cable that goes from the navi unit to the back of the screen and finding the RGB +sync wires.
I haven't found a diagram for them so I guess that's just trial and error.
You then need to get a transcoder and wire it in.
What that basically does is allow you to have an input that turns on whenever you select the navi option. There seems to be something in the navigation unit that enables the RGB input pins, apparently it sends a command over the CAN bus to switch the screen input over. You can also wire in a switch if you still want to use the navigation.

I'm still not sure if this is required to get a rearview camera to work, he mentions there is a difference in pre 2010 models that means you can't just send it a composite NTSC signal on pin 3 that it changes to when in reverse.
I'll try it anyway and see if it works, as I don't have a transcoder and the only ones available here are about $200. Otherwise he suggests ordering this from a Russian site, which is the cheapest transcoder I've seen.
http://vega-absolute.ru/production/catalog/43/81.html

This at least gets me on the right path, it's just a shame all the info out there on doing this is in Russian, and midiser seems to be pretty secretive about how he got it all to work on the club9g.ru forums.

[markrodgers11]

The nav still works and everything else as well. Although the maps are from 2007 and not all that helpful so its not used really. I also have the aftermarket screen with every type of connection possible for anyone looking for lots of connectivity it is a good way to go but obviously not for everyone. I have the pin out diagram for the amp as well if anyone is interested in trying

Sorry for bringing up a dead thread yet again, but this is exactly what I am trying to do. I have a 2012 Galant with the Rockford amp/speakers and the mmcs system. I'm trying to install a Pioneer 4200NEX and would like to keep the steering wheel controls. Can you send me the wiring diagram on how you have this setup? If I understand correctly you got steering wheel controls working and the stereo is using your rockford amp?