Couple of questions on the 5 speed swap.

[rezyy0]

Ok, so i've got a couple questions about the 5 speed swap. First off, those of you that have successfully done this, how much did it cost total? How long did it take you to gather the parts? How long does it take to actually do it? And is it worth doing on my 8g ES that has almost 170k on it? Thanks [emoji16]

[4g63lover]

For the 4cylinder I spent a little under a stack. It took me about half a year to gather parts because I was shopping for the best price. It took me three weeks to complete because I had to wait for miscellaneous bolts and stuff.

My v6 cost me $800 and the last thing I need is a clutch and am planning on doing the job in a weekend.

[oakrdrs187]

I got my parts fairly quick and did the swap on a single day.

I was at a LKQ pick and pull. Came across an 01 3g GS.

Pulled the trans with everything that was available. Both cables, shifter, trans assembly, clutch and fly, pedals, clutch cylinders and lines paid 250 including taxes and cores.

I sneaked the ECU but didn't get the harness ends, my fault.

It didnt have the reverse light solenoid, the shift boot and knob, or the manual trans mount. Spent another 30 on the mount, I work at O'Reilly Auto Parts part time so I hooked myself up with the reverse light switch and clutch set, I basically swapped the yard one under someones existing warranty, its unethical and wrong, whatever.

Fluid from Red Line was around 75 off ebay, bought a new flywheel of which the yard one was used as a core, that was 50 bucks. Altogether 400. Did the swap in a day, it helps to have the right tools and to have everything you are gonna need.

[rezyy0]

I got my parts fairly quick and did the swap on a single day.

I was at a LKQ pick and pull. Came across an 01 3g GS.

Pulled the trans with everything that was available. Both cables, shifter, trans assembly, clutch and fly, pedals, clutch cylinders and lines paid 250 including taxes and cores.

I sneaked the ECU but didn't get the harness ends, my fault.

It didnt have the reverse light solenoid, the shift boot and knob, or the manual trans mount. Spent another 30 on the mount, I work at O'Reilly Auto Parts part time so I hooked myself up with the reverse light switch and clutch set, I basically swapped the yard one under someones existing warranty, its unethical and wrong, whatever.

Fluid from Red Line was around 75 off ebay, bought a new flywheel of which the yard one was used as a core, that was 50 bucks. Altogether 400. Did the swap in a day, it helps to have the right tools and to have everything you are gonna need.
I remember a thread that listed all the parts for it so I'll have to find it. So do you think it'd be worth doing to my galant even though it's about to hit 170k?

[4g63lover]

Manual swap is always worth it IMO

[rezyy0]

Manual swap is always worth it IMO
I know it's worth it performance-wise, the thing is my parents think my car's too old and that it won't be worth it to spend that money because they think my car's gonna die any second lol.

[4g63lover]

My motor went 160k and boosted for 50k of it before I even took it apart to build it. And when I pulled the pistons out the cylinder walls looked brand new. The crosshatch from the factory was still defined and the pistons and bearings looked healthy. As Lon as your car was taken care of and maintained well, I have no doubt that motor will last even longer.

[oakrdrs187]

I know it's worth it performance-wise, the thing is my parents think my car's too old and that it won't be worth it to spend that money because they think my car's gonna die any second lol.

I have bought 8G's to use as dailys with more miles. Matter of fact my last 2 were 174k (had blown head gasket, fixed and sold, rsn like a damn champ) and this recent GTZ come up was at 193k pulls harder than any of the Gs I've had.

My first two, now owned by family members, are hitting 245k with no signs of stopping.

170k is just fine.

[Solviss]

I know it's worth it performance-wise, the thing is my parents think my car's too old and that it won't be worth it to spend that money because they think my car's gonna die any second lol.
Old? Mine turned 21 and pushing 300k on stock motor and trans lol.

[Black8GV6]

Ok, so i've got a couple questions about the 5 speed swap. First off, those of you that have successfully done this, how much did it cost total? How long did it take you to gather the parts? How long does it take to actually do it? And is it worth doing on my 8g ES that has almost 170k on it? Thanks

The cost of the parts depends on how much you can source the parts for. If you find a 5 speed eclipse at the junkyard you can pull all the parts in a day and install them on your car the next day. My swap took me a while, part of it was my fuel pump died during the swap and I didn't know it so when I went to start the car when I was done I had to problem solve why it wouldn't start.

Is it worth it? that depends on what your're looking for. It makes the car more fun to drive (IMO, I drive aggressive), more power at the wheels, and better gas mileage. Your Galant will still be slow, but faster than an auto.


I know it's worth it performance-wise, the thing is my parents think my car's too old and that it won't be worth it to spend that money because they think my car's gonna die any second lol.

They are correct, your galant is probably worth $1,500 to $2,500 and the swap might cost you $800 so thats a half to a third cost of your car. Plus if you're young and your parents still have control over you then you probably shouldn't mod your car.

[gtx]

Cost also depends on how far you want to go on it. I decided to have an LSD added while at it, that alone was another grand for example. If you don't think you'll keep the car for long, don't invest into it too much. Most of us here are beyond that point however, and look at it a little bit differently. We will all say it is worth it as the fun/dollar spent ratio is really good.
You can have fun while keeping the swap simple. Shop around. If you go to LKQ on a holiday btw, they usually have a half off promotion, I used to plan my junkyard runs with that in mind. If you shop at Advanced for example, always search for a coupon first online.

[rezyy0]

If I only had you guys there to convince my parents haha! I'm not too young I'll be 19 in july but the car is mine and I can do what I want to it my parents just kinda frown upon it. I'm gonna try and save up for it cause I sorta know how to drive manual, but driving an auto is just boring. Thanks for all the advice though, I probably will end up doing this but hopefully someone in the Las Vegas area who's done it can give me a hand [emoji1]

[rezyy0]

The cost of the parts depends on how much you can source the parts for. If you find a 5 speed eclipse at the junkyard you can pull all the parts in a day and install them on your car the next day. My swap took me a while, part of it was my fuel pump died during the swap and I didn't know it so when I went to start the car when I was done I had to problem solve why it wouldn't start.

Is it worth it? that depends on what your're looking for. It makes the car more fun to drive (IMO, I drive aggressive), more power at the wheels, and better gas mileage. Your Galant will still be slow, but faster than an auto.



They are correct, your galant is probably worth $1,500 to $2,500 and the swap might cost you $800 so thats a half to a third cost of your car. Plus if you're young and your parents still have control over you then you probably shouldn't mod your car.
Well I just looked up on car-parts.com for the '05 Eclipse transmission to get an idea of what the price would be and the lowest is $950. Does that seem a little high or is it just me? Lol.

[Black8GV6]

That price is high, it looks like your car is a 8Ga which are years 1999 to 2001, you should get a transmission from a 3Ga eclipse from 2000 to 2001.

[coconut]

It will be worth it, I picked up thatfreshkids G with 153k and still planning on doing the swap. Go on a half day sale and you will save tons of $$. I picked up the whole swap (everything) for $180.00 tax and cores included. They also gave another 25% off because it was raining that day. Make sure you get the flywheel bolts also. Good luck,

Talk to Underrated he lives out there.

You live 2 1/2 hrs away from here more or less, when and if ypu decide to get everything together hit me up and I would gladly help you install everything. Im spoiled I have a hoist in my garage. Makes things faster and easier.

[oakrdrs187]

Well I just looked up on car-parts.com for the '05 Eclipse transmission to get an idea of what the price would be and the lowest is $950. Does that seem a little high or is it just me? Lol.

That because they pull and ship it to you. To get the best deal you will have to go somewhere you pull it yourself. I know theres plenty if yards in Vegas.

[rezyy0]

That because they pull and ship it to you. To get the best deal you will have to go somewhere you pull it yourself. I know theres plenty if yards in Vegas.
Well Black8GV6 said it should be a 2000-2001 eclipse, so I looked and those ones are alot cheaper, lowest I found currently is $350. I checked their inventory on some of the ones here in vegas, but I only found like maybe 2 eclipses all the way across town lol.

[rezyy0]

It will be worth it, I picked up thatfreshkids G with 153k and still planning on doing the swap. Go on a half day sale and you will save tons of $$. I picked up the whole swap (everything) for $180.00 tax and cores included. They also gave another 25% off because it was raining that day. Make sure you get the flywheel bolts also. Good luck,

Talk to Underrated he lives out there.

You live 2 1/2 hrs away from here more or less, when and if ypu decide to get everything together hit me up and I would gladly help you install everything. Im spoiled I have a hoist in my garage. Makes things faster and easier.
Cali or AZ? Yeah I'm definitely gonna need someone who has experience doing this, I probably couldn't if my life depended on it lol.

[rezyy0]

That price is high, it looks like your car is a 8Ga which are years 1999 to 2001, you should get a transmission from a 3Ga eclipse from 2000 to 2001.
But would a 2005 fit? I just got an email saying he has a 2005 transmission in stock with all the other parts also.

[M-Rod]

Yes. 2000 to 2005 will work.

[rezyy0]

Yes. 2000 to 2005 will work.
Nice! I'll call him tomorrow during his business hours. Hopefully it won't be too much[emoji2]

[coconut]

Cali or AZ? Yeah I'm definitely gonna need someone who has experience doing this, I probably couldn't if my life depended on it lol.

He lives in vegas, dont know exactly where. I think close to the strip

[rezyy0]

He lives in vegas, dont know exactly where. I think close to the strip
I live in vegas, I thought you said you live about 2 1/2 hours away so I asked if you lived in cali or az lol.

[coconut]

Lol my bad.Im in cali

[rezyy0]

Alright guys so I've made a list of most of the parts I'll need. Transmission
Transmission mount
master cylinder w/ reservoir
slave cylinder(comes with clutch lines)
clutch & pressure plate
flywheel
clutch/brake pedals
Shifter base and cables
And an OEM TOB.
Am I missing anything?

So far I've bought the slave cylinder & lines (although I'm not sure if the one I bought came with the master), shifter base and cables, and I just ordered the pedals today. And if I happen to need bolts (if the parts don't come with them) where can I get those?

[coconut]

The dealer

[rezyy0]

The dealer
Ok cool. So does it look like I'm missing anything on my list?

[sexy 8G]

Hey just completed the swap however I haven't connected the shift cables because I don't know how they are supposed to go anyone give advice and also installing the master cylinder.

[Galantman03]

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[rezyy0]

Hey guys so one of the parts I ordered came in today, thing is I thought it was just the slave cylinder I bought, but did I get the master cylinder too?
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[Black8GV6]

Yes, big silver is master, small black is slave

[rezyy0]

Yes, big silver is master, small black is slave
Hell yeah! What a nice surprise lol[emoji1]

[oakrdrs187]

small black is slave

Woah buddy. Lolz. Jk.

[coconut]

^lmao

[rezyy0]

Got my flywheel today! Any tips on cleaning it? It's pretty dirty.
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[oakrdrs187]

Clean with degreaser. Get it resurfaced.

[rezyy0]

Clean with degreaser. Get it resurfaced.
Where do I get it resurfaced at? Any regular car repair shop?

[coconut]

I would suggest you Get it resurfaced

[rezyy0]

I would suggest you Get it resurfaced
Yeah I gotta find a machine shop here in Vegas lol. Hopefully it won't be too much.

[coconut]

Is there napa auto parts out there? Some have machine shop's that can resurface.

[rezyy0]

Oh look the pedals came in too [emoji1]
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[rezyy0]

Is there napa auto parts out there? Some have machine shop's that can resurface.
Looks like the 3 in vegas don't have machine shops lol. Just my luck. I did find a different place though and emailed them so I should know tomorrow.

[coconut]

Headed the right way. Get it all together and come my way and we will getter done.. more than welcome to use the cave with a hoist in it..

[rezyy0]

Headed the right way. Get it all together and come my way and we will getter done.. more than welcome to use the cave with a hoist in it..
Parts wise all I need is the Exedy mbk1000 clutch kit and a mount, but the transmission on the other hand... that's gonna take awhile to get some funds for lol.

[oakrdrs187]

Run a google search for machine shops in Vegas, there should be plenty.

[Black8GV6]

You can get the flywheel resurfaced or you can get a brand new light weight flywheel, Clutch Masters makes a light weight flywheel for the 3G 4cylinder

http://www.jmautosports.com/clutch-masters/clutch-masters-flywheel/fw7356al/i-148277.aspx <---Clutch Masters (good quality)

http://www.jmautosports.com/ralco-rz/ralco-rz-speed-flywheel/rz61041/i-532403.aspx <---Ralco Speed (never heard of)

[rezyy0]

Well, the shifter base, cables, and OEM release bearing arrived today, so as soon as I save up enough for the actual tranny and a clutch I should be all set. Too bad it's gonna take me a couple months to save up [emoji29]. Other than that I just need to get the bolts from the dealer and I'm good to go.

[Black8GV6]

bolts from the dealer are pricey, plus what bolts do you need? I reused all the bolts that came on the car with my swap.

If you need ANY bolts or parts you can go to the junkyard and get them or if you don't have access to a junkyard then post up on here what you need and maybe a nice member will get the bolt for you.

[coconut]

I think he might be referring to the flywheel bolts.

[4g63lover]

You should be able to reuse the flexplate bolts if you have an oem flywheel with the thin flange.

[Black8GV6]

I re-used my flexplate bolts.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7605/16788764301_bd3a2b7463_c.jpg

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[rezyy0]

Yeah I was talking about the flywheel bolts, but if Black8GV6 re-used the flexplate bolts, then maybe I don't need to get them.

[coconut]

I got some 3g bolts, didn't think the stock 8g stocks would have worked. But mine is an 2002 so im thinking that yours are different and would probably work.

[rezyy0]

I re-used my flexplate bolts.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7605/16788764301_bd3a2b7463_c.jpg

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What year is your G? Mine's '99 so I'm curious as to whether this would work or not.

[Black8GV6]

Mine is a 2001, I saw in a thread a part number for the bolts to use and I tried them and they didn't work, so I tried the flexplate bolts and they worked fine. I have a V6 so the 4cyl might be different

[6G72gearhead]

I can tell you that on my V6 the bolts would hold the flywheel up, but not with enough threads to effectively hold it when any torque was applied.

McMaster Carr should have any bolt you need to get it done shipped right to your door. If I remember they are M10 x 1.0 threads. Go check to make sure. You need grade 10.9 or higher.

[Black8GV6]

^hmmm, I torqued them to spec with permatex red threadlocker, I beat the shit out of it daily, going 10,xxx miles strong since the swap, I have the Fidanza flywheel so maybe it's thinner so I had more threads for the bolt? I can't remember.

[4g63lover]

My 4cylinder needed 2g GST flywheel bolts because the aftermarket replacement flywheel flange was thicker than an oem one. My V6 has a really thin flange and it has a two-piece flywheel. I used thread locker blue and torqued it to 60 ft lbs (fsm calls for 55ft.lbs.). my experience with red is most of the time you end up having to heat the bolt before the thread locker let's go.