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jbragg11
10-14-2003, 11:52 AM
I was going to drop mine only like 1 inch... would the ride really be effected if I did not get different struts or anything like that?

I got some 18's and I wanted to drop it b/c the front wheelbase on galants are higher than the back ones...

Also, would it matter if I just put them on the front and not the back...


HELP


Thanks in advance

8ggalant
10-14-2003, 12:01 PM
u can use eibach springs they lower about 1.2 inches if im not correct ...and it should not effect yer stock shocks/struts....im lowered 2.2 in on stock and no problems yet

jbragg11
10-14-2003, 12:07 PM
where are some good places to look for coilovers?
I dont want to spend A LOT of money, cause I just spent a lot on other things!

8ggalant
10-14-2003, 12:11 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jbragg11)</div><div class='quotemain'>where are some good places to look for coilovers?
I dont want to spend A LOT of money, cause I just spent a lot on other things!</div>

well coilovers usally cost more than springs for a good set...but if thats what u want try www.nopionline.comgroundcontrol coilovers tehy run about 350-400...cant remember

jbragg11
10-14-2003, 12:13 PM
I know nothing about lowering... so can I just use springs (cheaper?) than getting coilovers?

If I get springs, would I have to get new shocks or struts?

Thanks

8ggalant
10-14-2003, 12:17 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jbragg11)</div><div class='quotemain'>I know nothing about lowering... so can I just use springs (cheaper?) than getting coilovers?

If I get springs, would I have to get new shocks or struts?

Thanks</div>

eventually yes because yer putting more of a load on the stock suspension than it was made for...but...therr are plenty of members who have gone without aftermarket shocks/struts for quite a while with no problem...i kno 1 person who had his lowered over 1 yr....but its up to u...coilovers have adjustable ride height...springs u get waht u buy

jbragg11
10-14-2003, 12:17 PM
are these bad?


lol... probably cause they are cheap...

http://www.racerwheel.com/suspension-coilo...shi-galant.html ('http://www.racerwheel.com/suspension-coilovers-mitsubishi-galant.html')

8ggalant
10-14-2003, 12:21 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jbragg11)</div><div class='quotemain'>are these bad?


lol... probably cause they are cheap... Â*

http://www.racerwheel.com/suspension-coilovers-mitsubishi-galant.html</div>


u get what u pay for...but therr have been a few members who have bought ebay or misc suspensions and been happy...some have not

jbragg11
10-14-2003, 12:21 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>eventually yes because yer putting more of a load on the stock suspension than it was made for...but...therr are plenty of members who have gone without aftermarket shocks/struts for quite a while with no problem...i kno 1 person who had his lowered over 1 yr....but its up to u...coilovers have adjustable ride height...springs u get waht u buy</div>


so:

coilovers = adjustable... does not hurt suspension (like the struts etc..) and more expensive

springs = u get what get (not adjustable)... hurts the suspension (leading you to buy new struts etc...) and less expensive


????

LOL

jbragg11
10-14-2003, 01:18 PM
All I really want is it to be lowered a little (for looks) and at the same time, I dont really want to buy new struts (cause I am assuming that they will give out... stock, that is)...

I guess I am screwed...

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS ON WHAT TO DO ABOUT THE WHEELBASE DIFFERENCE...

I just hate that the rims on the back tires are close to the wheelbase and the front tires are farther away from the wheelbase!!

Why did Mitsubishi make it like this!!!!!!!!!

8ggalant
10-14-2003, 01:20 PM
coilovers or springs could potentially hurt the oem shocks or struts...on some cars sooner than others...

jbragg11
10-14-2003, 01:26 PM
is there any way to fix the gap difference in the front besides lowering it?
I hate how the wheel well is cut different in the front!

The back looks great, but I cant stand the front!

2True
10-14-2003, 01:29 PM
Just get Eibachs man! damn.. they are designed to go with stock struts so they should not burn yours out anytime soon.

Any Spring or coilover will run down your stock struts over time, the main factor is how far you lower your car. The lower you go, the harder on your stock struts it will be.

BTW, the reason the fender gap looks bigger in the front is because the fender is actually higher than the rear, the suspension is perfectly level.

jbragg11
10-14-2003, 01:31 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(2True)</div><div class='quotemain'>Just get Eibachs man! damn.. they are designed to go with stock struts so they should not burn yours out anytime soon.

Any Spring or coilover will run down your stock struts over time, the main factor is how far you lower your car. The lower you go, the harder on your stock struts it will be. Â*

BTW, the reason the fender gap looks bigger in the front is because the fender is actually higher than the rear, the suspension is perfectly level.</div>


so if I get eibachs and lower it just about 1.5'', then I could keep my stock stuff?

2True
10-15-2003, 12:14 AM
Yes. :wink:

Prophet
10-15-2003, 02:17 AM
I have been running Progress springs for over a year on stock struts and I have had no problem. At the very lest just get the springs and by the time that the stock struts start to get bad you should have saved enough for some good shocks/struts. KYB is a good and you don't have to get the AGX.

or get bigger wheels....

Wolfman
10-15-2003, 02:09 PM
FYI Club3g for the eclipse 2000 and above has a group buy on KYB AGX shocks and struts 4 for $335 and that'll be the price shipped for a long time. The url is...... http://www.eclipseforums.org/forum/showthr...threadid=119495 ('http://www.eclipseforums.org/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=119495') you have to become a member there but it's all good. Jessica s realy nice. I'm ordering mine next month and I have TEIN S Tech's from ebay one of the better suspension springs out there and I got em for $110 shipped.

jbragg11
10-15-2003, 04:06 PM
good looking....

thanks!

jbragg11
10-16-2003, 12:33 PM
Yes. :wink:

but if I only lower it 1'' or 1.5'', will this do damage to my stock struts and shocks over time? (thats using the eibach springs)

2True
10-16-2003, 01:13 PM
Over time, yes. How long really depends on the way you treat your car, drive, and the condition of the roads. Should last you quite a while.

jbragg11
10-16-2003, 01:46 PM
what about ground control?

would I have to change stock shocks then?


It says I wouldnt have to on this site:
http://www.nipponpower.com/suspension/spri...mitsubishi.html ('http://www.nipponpower.com/suspension/springs/gc_mitsubishi.html')

99+ Galant - [0-3.0" Drop]
- (Works w/ Stock Shocks)

8ggalant
10-16-2003, 11:31 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jbragg11)</div><div class='quotemain'>what about ground control?

would I have to change stock shocks then?


It says I wouldnt have to on this site:
http://www.nipponpower.com/suspension/spri...mitsubishi.html ('http://www.nipponpower.com/suspension/springs/gc_mitsubishi.html')

99+ Galant - [0-3.0" Drop]
- (Works w/ Stock Shocks)</div>

ok bro...what do u want us to say...startin to get a lil frustrated herr...we have said many times....yes u can drop yer car on stock shocks and struts....will they go out soon ...who knows...maybe maybe not....thats why it is encouraged that u buy them both at once....no one is gonna gurantee u the stock shocks wont go...hell they probly wont...but it may or may not happen....so to answer yer question...the gc's come (for some reason) with diff part #'s for kits with oem shocks/struts and aftermarket shocks/struts...so yes u can buy that gc kit...it will fit stock shocks/struts...but i stress again...i dont kno whether yer cars oem suspension will be ok or not....hope that answers yer ?

Liszt
10-16-2003, 11:40 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jbragg11)</div><div class='quotemain'>what about ground control?

would I have to change stock shocks then?


It says I wouldnt have to on this site:
http://www.nipponpower.com/suspension/spri...mitsubishi.html ('http://www.nipponpower.com/suspension/springs/gc_mitsubishi.html')

99+ Galant - [0-3.0" Drop]
- (Works w/ Stock Shocks)</div>

Hello,

I don't believe that the ground controls will fit with the spring seat of the stock (OEM) shock. You would need to get gr2's or something.

If you're going for looks and not so much performance go with either the Tein or Eibach kits. I know that with the Tein s-tech the spring rates are similiar to stock so you won't be stressing the oem shock assemble as much. I'm getting the s-tech in the near future because I don't want to fuss with getting an entire new setup. In my opinion either get the tein replacement springs or get a full replacement setup like the jic's. I'm of the opinion that mixing and matching spring shock setups isn't too precise. If I had lots of money to drop I'd want something complete and not mixed-matched.

Liszt
10-16-2003, 11:46 PM
I don't know if anyone can confirm this but I've always wondered about this page and if the listed setup for 1900 is actually for OUR cars.

http://www.jic-magic.com/productsjic_susp_flta2.htm ('http://www.jic-magic.com/productsjic_susp_flta2.htm')

Will these really work?

L

Prophet
10-17-2003, 01:25 AM
Ground control makes coil overs that fit different types of shock/struts. That is why before ordering you need to make sure they are going to order the GC that will fit your shocks. In other words GC makes coilvers for the Galant but they make three types and the categorize this by the shock/struts you got or will be getting/using. If you have KYB AGX shock/struts then you can't fit the GC's that are made for the stock shocks even though they where both made for the same year Galant.

I just went to there site and they are remodeling and I can't find there old catalog. I only have this on my HD so if you guys are intrested I can email you the file so that you can make sure that you get the right GC's.

Liszt
10-17-2003, 03:00 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Prophet)</div><div class='quotemain'>Ground control makes coil overs that fit different types of shock/struts. Â*That is why before ordering you need to make sure they are going to order the GC that will fit your shocks. Â*In other words GC makes coilvers for the Galant but they make three types and the categorize this by the shock/struts you got or will be getting/using. Â*If you have KYB AGX shock/struts then you can't fit the GC's that are made for the stock shocks even though they where both made for the same year Galant.

I just went to there site and they are remodeling and I can't find there old catalog. Â*I only have this on my HD so if you guys are intrested I can email you the file so that you can make sure that you get the right GC's.</div>

thanks for the info, you car looks dope

jbragg11
10-17-2003, 04:19 PM
so the stock shocks are OEM?
Could I not get OEM coilovers or springs and then that would match with the stock? And not get new struts> lol (probably not, but I thought I would ask)

Faction
10-17-2003, 04:30 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>so the stock shocks are OEM? Â*
Could I not get OEM coilovers or springs and then that would match with the stock? And not get new struts> lol (probably not, but I thought I would ask)</div>


damn boy, OEM is from the factory! what you have on your car now is Original Equipment from the Manufacturer. If you get Eibach's of KYB's, thats aftermarket. I think you're getting confused here. just get the Tein's or Eibachs and lower that thing, and when your OEM struts give way, buy KYB's!!!!!!