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roadrage936
11-09-2003, 11:55 PM
alright guyz, gimme a holla. Need to decide on whether to get an aluminum or fiberglass wing?

Everyone in our group has fiberglass, but I think aluminum would look good. I have a 2002 galant with patriot red paint.

So tell me what ya think? I wanna stand out in the group. Cause anyone knows that when they see a tricked galant they usually do this :shock: and then :rockon:

ok now, gimme some feedback. Gotta make a decision soon; tired of being the one without one and looking like a :dumbass: :retard:

thanks for the reply

pinoyesv6
11-10-2003, 08:17 AM
there are some pretty ugly fiberglass wings out there and there are some nice alluminum ones out there. so yea, gotta see piks of the wings. i mean most of us here prefer the fiberglass but a nice aluminum one would look better than an ugly fiberglass one

Khopari
11-10-2003, 09:20 AM
what ever u get, just make sure the color of the wing matches your car.

roadrage936
11-10-2003, 03:28 PM
R u meaning that if aluminum, paint it? :?:

My buddies said instead of Aluminum, get CF cause it will make it look better blended, especially if CF Alezetta tails was added to the car.

Holla back, & peace

Kalamidad
11-10-2003, 06:09 PM
fiberglass.

DarkLateNight
11-10-2003, 06:16 PM
neither - but if ur going to get one anyways - need pics - it's all for looks anyway; ur not gonna be going fast enough to actually fufill a purpose

manybrews
11-10-2003, 06:19 PM
neither.. cause theyre all tacky as hell.

TWISTED II
11-10-2003, 08:00 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(manybrews)</div><div class='quotemain'>neither.. cause theyre all tacky as hell.</div>

what are you talking about? he hasn't even shown any pics of a wing yet, but they are ALL tacky? i think a properly placed wing finishes off a car. some cars look dumb without wings.

Sammy_ES
11-10-2003, 08:18 PM
Fiberglass.

Lazarus
11-10-2003, 09:15 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(pinoyesv6)</div><div class='quotemain'>there are some pretty ugly fiberglass wings </div>

Which wings are you talking about? Coming from someone with a Fiberglass wing.. https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif

the GTR from Erebuni is hot IMO

Elwenil
11-10-2003, 09:20 PM
I know I'll get stomped for this one, but what about one like the wing on the S2000 in the post in the Other Pics forum? Maybe not as tall, but aluminum brackets and a CF airfoil. Just my .02 Come on, let me have it... https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif

HeadAche
11-10-2003, 09:44 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Lazarus)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(pinoyesv6)</div><div class='quotemain'>there are some pretty ugly fiberglass wings </div>

Which wings are you talking about? Coming from someone with a Fiberglass wing.. https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif

the GTR from Erebuni is hot IMO</div>

I would like to know myself, since i got a fiberglass wing as well.. Wouldnt mind getting a CF wing though..

Elwenil
11-10-2003, 09:49 PM
As far as over the top CF wings go, I like the Universal CF Mega GT Wing from C-wings. Hell, even the name sounds rediculous, but I really like that GT, 24 Hours of Le Mans look...

pinoyesv6
11-10-2003, 09:55 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Lazarus)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(pinoyesv6)</div><div class='quotemain'>there are some pretty ugly fiberglass wings </div>

Which wings are you talking about? Coming from someone with a Fiberglass wing.. https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif

the GTR from Erebuni is hot IMO</div>

here's some samples
http://www.jerseyrice.com/images/rice/downforce_rear.jpg
http://www.jerseyrice.com/images/rice/civic_blueyel2.jpg
http://www.jerseyrice.com/images/rice/whale_avenger.jpg
http://www.heferito.com/Celica-wing-250.jpg

Elwenil
11-10-2003, 09:58 PM
Ok, what the hell is up with two wings on one car?!?! Lol!
http://www.jerseyrice.com/images/rice/downforce_rear.jpg
And now this! Not only is it two wings, but one is upside down! WTF?!?!?
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Lazarus
11-10-2003, 10:07 PM
that is not the way that spoiler sits on that Celica. the spoilers are ugly but as far as the ones madr for our car. most all universal Glass spoilers that aren't OEM ....most not all are kinda .......Gay

Sammy_ES
11-11-2003, 07:20 AM
Aren't wings made for cars that are rear wheel drive? I thought the purpose was to create downforce.

So, for those of us that have front wheel drive, I think that its best to go with a simple fiberglass wing thats obviously just for show than to be a big poser with an aluminum wing on stilts.

manybrews
11-11-2003, 04:49 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TWISTED!)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(manybrews)</div><div class='quotemain'>neither.. cause theyre all tacky as hell.</div>

what are you talking about? he hasn't even shown any pics of a wing yet, but they are ALL tacky? i think a properly placed wing finishes off a car. some cars look dumb without wings.</div>
pretty much all spoilers are tacky. some of the factory smallish ones are okay. the large suckers are hideous no matter who makes them (If I got an evo, id definatly go for the smaller wing).

I prefer subtlety. A SMALL wing is okay on the right car.
besides, putting stuff on that actually has a purpose on race cars but is only for show screams "POSER" to me.

of course, this is only my opinion.

TWISTED II
11-11-2003, 05:53 PM
body kits are meant for "aerodynamics" so everyone with body kits are posers too? CF is meant to lighten a car, how many guys buy it to lighten their galant? its a styling option....not necisarily being a poser or tacky.

escoson
11-11-2003, 05:59 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(roadrage936)</div><div class='quotemain'>R u meaning that if aluminum, paint it? :?: Â*

My buddies said instead of Aluminum, get CF cause it will make it look better blended, especially if CF Alezetta tails was added to the car.

Holla back, & peace</div>


i say go for whatever you want but cf wing wont match cf tails due to the fact that the tails are silver checkers on a black background.

TWISTED II
11-11-2003, 06:14 PM
i have a CF wing with CF tails and it looks amazing.......

Lazarus
11-11-2003, 06:22 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Sammy_ES)</div><div class='quotemain'>Aren't wings made for cars that are rear wheel drive? Â*I thought the purpose was to create downforce.</div>

I have a FWD and I have a big Huge Fiberglass wing. and i ue mine for a seat when ever I go to liek shows and there isn't many places to sit I just sit on my spoiler. they make great stocking stuffers.

Yeah front wheel drive cars come with Spoilers, but at the same time some rear wheel drive cars dont. the Corvette a very powerful RWD car often don't have spoilers. Supras Be as it may some don't have spoilers. it's not all about down force. it's about style. What flows. some spoilers bring out certain aspects in cars form. Call me a poser for having a city park bench on my trunk but it flows and I look pretty fly sittin on it at Nopi.

Elwenil
11-11-2003, 06:31 PM
Well, I've posted a lot on this subject, and I think I'll post this in defense of wings everywhere. :wink: Wings are not just for RWD cars. Yes, RWD cars need more rear wheel traction, but FWD and AWD cars need the downforce just as much to keep the ass from passing the nose in a tight turn at speed. But as stated before, they are mostly for looks, and/or style. I love the look of some wings, and hate others, but for most of us, it's the same as a body kit, or canards or anything similar. They look really kewl, but would go all to hell in a wind tunnel. They are simply designed with looks in mind, be they good looks or bad. Either way, everyone has an opinion on whether they look good or bad, or whether they work in his/her application. Just do whatever makes you happy with your car, and to hell with opinions. But that's just my opinion, lol... https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif

The 99 Galant
11-11-2003, 07:08 PM
PLEASE PEOPLE HAVE SOME RESPECT FOR US GALANTS. IF YOU WANT TO LOOK LIKE A HONDA THEN GO GET ONE. ALL THEM WINGS ARE UGLY AND TACKY AND MAKE YOU LOOK LIKE A CIVIC OR SOME ACCORD RUNNING AROUND. I DON'T CARE IF YOU'RE A SHOW CAR OR NOT ALL THEY LOOK AWFUL. IF YOU WANT NICE LOOKING WINGS GO EUROPEAN. YOU CAN'T EVEN TOUCH THE HAMANN WINGS. TAKE A LOOK AT THERE WEBPAGE. WWW.HAMANN-MOTORSPORTS.DE THEIR DOUBLE WING REAR SPOILER IS SOMETHING THAT ALL THEM TACKY WINGS TRIED TO COPY. AS FOR ALUMINUM OR CF, THEY DON'T MATCH YOUR CAR SO WHY GET THEM. MAN PEOPLE, WHY GET A WING THAT DOESN'T MATCH THE STYLE OR COLOR OF YOUR CAR. GET WHATEVER YOU LIKE BUT WHEN YOU SEE MY RIDE ROLL PAST YOURS AND YOU'RE LIKE, $&%@ THATS ONE HELL OF A RIDE, DON'T BE SUPRISED IF I'M THINKING, ^#&$ THATS ONE TACKY GALANT!!!!

Elwenil
11-11-2003, 07:48 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(The 99 Galant)</div><div class='quotemain'>GET WHATEVER YOU LIKE BUT WHEN YOU SEE MY RIDE ROLL PAST YOURS AND YOU'RE LIKE, $&%@ THATS ONE HELL OF A RIDE, DON'T BE SUPRISED IF I'M THINKING, ^#&$ THATS ONE TACKY GALANT!!!!</div>

I agree with the "Get whatever you like", but as for the rest of it, who said anybody cared what you would be thinking? :roll:

TWISTED II
11-11-2003, 07:59 PM
yeah, no shit man. turn your caps off and stop actin like you are "Mr. Car Designer." you wanna tell me my galant doesn't look good? you wanna tell me my shit looks tacky?

http://www.joecwilson.com/forum/files/sunsetsmall.jpg

i don't think so buddy :roll:

Elwenil
11-11-2003, 08:02 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TWISTED!)</div><div class='quotemain'>yeah, no shit man. Â*turn your caps off and stop actin like you are "Mr. Car Designer." Â*you wanna tell me my galant doesn't look good? Â*you wanna tell me my shit looks tacky? Â*

http://www.joecwilson.com/forum/files/sunsetsmall.jpg

i don't think so buddy Â*:roll:</div>

Yeah, no doubt, Twisted. You know your ride looks good. Hell, I even liked it before you took the graphics off, but now it's real tight. :thumbsup:

The 99 Galant
11-11-2003, 10:13 PM
yours don't look bad but any bigger than that than it would. Them huge high sitting wings are so ugly its not even funny. Yours is one of those Spoon copies right from Wings West. Thats not bad. It matches the rest of what your car has on it. But please when you got a car that has European lines to it, Jap stuff can look out of place.

roadrage936
11-12-2003, 10:37 PM
look guyz, I aint trying to piss people off, just gettin an opinion. Lets just keep the peace, ok? 8)

I am not trying to look like a damn civic or accord...muchless anyone else here. We all just wanna keep it real, keep it tight, and make all them Honda lovers jealous of what we can do with limited aftermarket stuff. :mg:

I know that mitsubishi has potential, otherwise they wouldn't have used them in fast and the furious. They should have used a galant instead of a Jetta in my opinion...& its just an opinion.

I thank ya'll for your opinions, and I think small is the way to go..some big ass aluminum wouldn't look good nor serve a purpose; no offense to anyone that has one.

But I will be getting a CF wing w/ CF tails...they just look too damn good together...saw one in Houston the other day with same paint. The wing I am gonna get is on that one dude's car I think from wings west that made a post. Not sure....gonna im him.

Thanx again 8)

TWISTED II
11-13-2003, 12:53 AM
i think i am that "one dude." the wing is made by APR. ran me just over 500 bucks with shipping.

The 99 Galant
11-13-2003, 10:55 AM
o and yes i have designed 3 cars for people that ran them way higher than you put on your stuff. So i do know what i am talking about. I just don't see why people add lines to a car that aren't there. The best cars I've seen are cars that people take the existing lines and make the emphasis on them. IMO though.

jusmills
11-13-2003, 11:10 AM
personally I think twisted car is hot--twisted you have a shot of your car from different angles--I'd like to see what it looks like from back, front etc. etc. Basically if I get a chance to do some stuff to my ride his (and some other on here) will be a model--I'm not gonna carbon copy it (just don't think that's right). At any rate--IMO his whip's gotta be up there in the like top 10 on the site (looks wise--not even talking about the go factor), so I'd think you'd be hard pressed to find g's that look much better.

TWISTED II
11-13-2003, 11:56 AM
i'll take more pics today. its pretty nice out.

TWISTED II
11-14-2003, 02:51 AM
aight, got some more pics.

http://www.joecwilson.com/forum/files/done3.jpg
http://www.joecwilson.com/forum/files/done2.jpg
http://www.joecwilson.com/forum/files/ass_end.jpg

peanotation
11-14-2003, 04:23 AM
ughhajkdjkejalkghha such a SWEET 8G..ahhhhh

peanotation
11-14-2003, 04:25 AM
and to all you big wing haters: :321: :doubleup: F U

http://socallifestyle.com/finished/2.jpg
and see sig pic.

The 99 Galant
11-14-2003, 12:42 PM
IMO the member KEN has the best car in here. His embodies style, class, and pure kick@$$

11-14-2003, 01:14 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(roadrage936)</div><div class='quotemain'>I am not trying to look like a damn civic or accord...muchless anyone else here. Â*We all just wanna keep it real, keep it tight, and make all them Honda lovers jealous of what we can do with limited aftermarket stuff. :mg: Â*
I know that mitsubishi has potential, otherwise they wouldn't have used them in fast and the furious. Â*They should have used a galant instead of a Jetta in my opinion...& its just an opinion.</div>
sure, get a wing, i don't care. I'll try not to laugh when a clean honda, one that you were just ripping on, smokes your ass WHILE looking better than you. Your car isn't RWD, you don't need a wing. Sure, you may think it looks good, but judges at a show won't. Not to mention very few other people will. And to the guy who said that you need a wing fro FWD cars in corners...FWD cars inherently understeer. Unless you've done some incredible suspension mods, you are NOT going to have to worry about the ass sliding out around the front. All you are doing there is causing the rear wheels to stick even more than normal, slowing you down and INCREASING understeer. It will serve no function whatsoever except to please your own aesthetic senses,, while revolting many of the rest.
This money could be spent elsewhere, in actually taking advantage of the potential a galant has. Oh and I wouldn't base your argument that the galant has potential on the fact that it was used in 2F2F. I hope you don't consider 2F2F to be an authority on cars and tuning...because neons don't add power, wings hurt FWD cars, and stickers are for sponsored cars only, and are still ugly.

Elwenil
11-14-2003, 01:57 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ScootinIntegra)</div><div class='quotemain'>[ And to the guy who said that you need a wing fro FWD cars in corners...FWD cars inherently understeer. Unless you've done some incredible suspension mods, you are NOT going to have to worry about the ass sliding out around the front. All you are doing there is causing the rear wheels to stick even more than normal, slowing you down and INCREASING understeer. It will serve no function whatsoever except to please your own aesthetic senses,, while revolting many of the rest.</div>

Ok, I was that guy and I take it that you haven't done much racing. The more downforce you can generate the better. FWD cars are not drift cars, we don't want the ass end to slide, and as far as understeer goes, learn how to adjust your suspension. Just about all of the understeer can be taken out if you tune your suspension properly. Now aside from the racing aspect, the wings the is interested in are for looks, he knows they are for looks, and we know they are for looks. Wings can't be all bad as just a cosmetic mod. ALL manufacturers put some type of wing orspoiler on their cars and they are all normally for looks. So it is gernerally accepted by the public that cosmetic wings are ok. With of course the possible exception of certain Honda fans who take themselves way too seriously. As is what seems to be the norm, you want to flaunt the fact that Hondas are generally faster than most Galants. Fine, we are kewl with that, and really don't care. Those of us on this site (that actually own Galants) are here because we love our cars. We either wanted something different, or it is what we could afford, and are doing our best with it. In my opinion, Hondas are the Chevys of the import world. They are the most popular, they are the most supported by the aftermarket, and they are generally cheaper to build because of those two facts. Typically their owners seem to look down on other manufacturers, just like Chevy owners do Ford and Mopar guys. I built better Mopars then the Chevys I ran against, and I will do the same with my Galant. Better is a matter of opinion, but it's my car and I'll do what I want with it, just as RoadRage936 will do with his. And Road Rage, pick a wing you like, put it on and be proud of it. The majority of the TGC community will support your decision because we know what it's like to build an "underdog" sort of car. We may not all like it, but we will support your decision. I think the majority like the wings, depending on the style, but won't post in a thread like this because it always seems to go to an argument. Bottom line: It's YOUR car, do what makes YOU happy. I don't care if you put the tail off a 747 on it, I'll tell you like like it or not, and tell you it's a good install, or that it's original or something, because I feel that is what a lot of people or looking for. I won't lie to you, but I will support your decision to be original, or different, or one in the herd, or whatever. And this is all I really have to say on the wing subject. I have spoken... :wink:

TWISTED II
11-14-2003, 03:39 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(The 99 Galant)</div><div class='quotemain'>IMO the member KEN has the best car in here. Â*His embodies style, class, and pure kick@$$</div>

you have any pics? i don't even think i know who your talking about.

The 99 Galant
11-14-2003, 08:10 PM
http://photos.yahoo.com/tweetergalant ('http://photos.yahoo.com/tweetergalant')

Ken, thats the members name. Look at his G. Its an insane install and the outside is simple and keeps with the lines.

Lazarus
11-14-2003, 08:24 PM
I know who ken is. His car is pretty Hot........And with that being said what the hell does that have to do with spoilers. What conversation are you in? That's some good stuff you got there.


Ken's Car ooks ...uhhh how do you say....Stock on teh outside. he has probably the hottest interior but that's another forum

Elwenil
11-14-2003, 09:14 PM
That's what I was going to say. The interior and all is awesome, but the exterior looks just like mine. Actually if you are talking about "clean" then I think mine's cleaner. I don't have all the emblems and stickers, but I like the car. What exactly is there to "keep with the lines"? There's nothing on it except for the factory lines. Don't get me wrong, it's a nice car and looks just like mine, but it doesn't compare with a car like Matt's, Twisted's or Censee's. Just my opinion...

TWISTED II
11-14-2003, 10:03 PM
ok, the guy knows his fiberglass...but i don't know about "the best car on the site." the thing is stock except for 300 lbs of fiberglass and a bunch of speakers. but, whatever, to each his own.

The 99 Galant
11-15-2003, 08:12 AM
yeah thats whats so good about it. It's been lowered but not too low so that bumps in the road scratch the hell out of it. It has nice rims and from from the look of it it doesn't look like anything. A lip or something on his car would help out but he keeps it simple and keeps the lines of the car. All you people with your huge unfunctional wings try to create lines on a car that aren't there. And as for the guy , elwenil or whatever, you sure don't know much either about racing. Downforce is only good to a certain point. Unless you are dragging, which i would say a G doesn't have much of a chance against some other cars, there is no need for soe much downforce. If you watch F1 racing who rely heavily on areodynamics, they have just enough downforce to keep the back on the tarmac but after that they don't want much more as it either one screws the steering and also robs away from the areodynamics and potential top speeds. For our daily driving needs, having such a large wing only acts as a hindrance to our car's visual appeal. TWISTED has a nice wing, even though its Spoons Honda copy wing, but it wouldn't look good on any other G unless they had the same look to his car. I personally don't try to copy Jap styling. I prefer Italian and European mods. They are much more fitted for a 4 door car. Twisted said it nice and i'll agree, to each his own.

Elwenil
11-15-2003, 12:32 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(The 99 Galant)</div><div class='quotemain'>And as for the guy , elwenil or whatever, you sure don't know much either about racing. Â*Downforce is only good to a certain point. Â*Unless you are dragging, which i would say a G doesn't have much of a chance against some other cars, there is no need for soe much downforce. Â*If you watch F1 racing who rely heavily on areodynamics, they have just enough downforce to keep the back on the tarmac but after that they don't want much more as it either one screws the steering and also robs away from the areodynamics and potential top speeds.</div>
I agree with you on the aerodynamic drag issue, but Galants simply aren't powerful enough to worry about high speed aerodynamics. The drag from a wing doesn't take effect until you get to high speeds, at which point most Gs don't have it where it counts to push past the air even without any body mods. In terms of racing, I know quite a lot. I've done drag racing for many years, and now with my G I love forward to autocross as that is the only style racing I think the G is easily suited for. No offense to anyone drag racing their G, but it's easier to get a slow car to handle, than it is to get one to lay down quicker E.T.s. I have quite a lot of experience with real world aerodynamics because of my old Charger project. It's not easy to get a naturally aspirated small block to push a 3400 lbs car to cruise at 160 MPH. This car was built similar to the NASCAR Chargers of the 70's. Still it was hard to get anything over 140 MPH at first, but with a lot of work, I had a 72 Charger in street trim that would cruise at 160, and could go much faster, but I never got it shot with radar above 160. :firedevil: But as to the wings, if you have an actual adjustable wing that isn't just a cosmetic piece, then the downforce can be helpful in keeping the rear end from sliding out. I know with my stock G with Yokohama Parada Spec-2 tires that I can bring the ass end around. I've done it many times. Ane that was at much less than 80 MPH, so imagine the same turns with engine/suspension mods at higher speeds. I know what I know from hands on experience, not just from watching racing on TV, or reading magazines. All of this is a moot point anyway. The wings available for our G's are there for looks, although I have a line on an actual Viper GTS-R wing that I may get for future use on my G. And yes, it will look outrageous, and cause me the horrible loss of maybe .0002 miles per gallon, but if it will fit, and is not too wide, I'll do it, and who cares what anyone else thinks? If it serves a purpose, be it cosmetic or for racing on the weekends, let the owner decide. Just my .02

TWISTED II
11-15-2003, 12:52 PM
i dunno, i think a wing is just like any other thing you do to your car. its for looks. not many people who modify cars actually buy a wing for function. just like no one buys anything else for function. its all for looks. how many people buy racing seats cuz they have a low 12 second car and need them? no one on TGC. its all cosmetic, so i think in that aspect, if it looks good, do it. and if you prefer italian and euro styles, why did you buy a galant?

11-15-2003, 04:03 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TWISTED!)</div><div class='quotemain'>i dunno, i think a wing is just like any other thing you do to your car. Â*its for looks. Â*not many people who modify cars actually buy a wing for function. Â*just like no one buys anything else for function. Â* its all for looks. Â*how many people buy racing seats cuz they have a low 12 second car and need them? Â*no one on TGC. Â*its all cosmetic, so i think in that aspect, if it looks good, do it. Â*and if you prefer italian and euro styles, why did you buy a galant?</div>
yeah, a nice understated wing is good for looks. But a big ass aluminum wing? No. Not necessary, and you are instantly (and 99% of the time, correctly) judged as a ricer. Just because it's on a galant vs on a honda, and you guys all believe you are the anti-rice, doesn't mean it's not rice. It is worthless, and in fact it is detrimental to your car. If nothing else, it just looks ugly as shit. You go out and buy a $100 Matrix high-performance ultra lightweight carbon fiber racing J-spec JDM supra aluminum wing and bolt it on your galant, it's going to look ridiculous, not to mention affect your performance negatively. If you feel the need to get anything, buy a small, understated fiberglass wing for the rear of your car. It will look clean and non-ricey and won't mess with your handling much, if at all. Point is, don't add downforce where you don't need it.

The 99 Galant
11-16-2003, 12:46 AM
yeah i agree with Elwenil on where he's coming from. I've done apprentice stuff with a body shop and modifying designers and got a good amount of hands on experience, but not as much as you. You guy was real big in GT racing and all. The adjustable wings are definitely the best thing to get if you're going to get some big wing but its only good for racing purposes. Those cars at them speeds need them to be able to stay on the tarmac when making turns and all but us in our G on freeways don't need anything like that. Even on back roads we never have to take a S turn at 90mph to a hairpin you know. The stock spoilers and the mid level spoilers are more than enough to keep our butts on the ground. Instead of wasting money on a spoiler that you'll never really get to fully get to use why not tweak your suspension in the rear. Stiffining the rear can help more than a spoiler will especially in turns. There are few cars where i think the huge wing looks good and IMO a 4dr. looks terrible in it. Actually even most mildly tuned cars look terrible with it. TWISTED's car looks pretty good with it because his car is mod' for it. peanotation car on the other hand is primarily stock looking on the outside and the wing looks a little overwhelming on the car. Atleast he got his painted to match unlike some of you ricers. If you want a good look for a car go Euro style or Italian. They make cars look mean and aggressive. The Jap look is always a nimble, frail, look. Actually the funny thing is that Jap cars are taking more to a Euro look i.e Lexus and Acuras. If you look their lines match more with Euro designs than Jap. www.hamann-motorsport.com ('http://www.hamann-motorsport.com') They've got the best looking Euro/Jap styling i've ever seen. They mix what TWISTED has on his and put some Euro flair to it. Thats what I'm saving my money for.

Elwenil
11-16-2003, 12:56 AM
Actually, the car I'm sorts modeling my G after is a BMW 4 door GT racer with a big azzed wing. I have the pic here, if I can get it scanned, I'll post it. I've also took some ideas from the Dodge Stratus race car from the now defunct NAGT series. At least I think that was what the series was called. I'll have to look it up. :roll: I wouldn't say it's rice, more like Gran Turismo on the brain. I fell in love with all of the GT games, and after building the Galant on the PS with the red and white graphics, I really wanted one. Might even copy the graphic scheme one day, I dunno. It's all for looks, although the next mod my G is getting is a set of JIC Magic coil overs, and I hope to one day get the SDS for it. I'm also working on getting a 5 speed for it. :twisted: I found one for $750, but I need to come up with all the damn clutch stuff, shifter, axles, etc. My G might not live up to VR-4 status, but it will be interesting to say the least. :wink:

The 99 Galant
11-16-2003, 01:10 AM
Yeah the GT stuff is insane. I like some of the GT cars like the Astra and the BMW's. They have pretty big wings on them but then they got the beefed up arches and front ends. I personally don't like the aluminum look because it doesn't match your car. Its the same with Altezza rear lights. Why get the clear white ones if you have a black car. Get the CF or Black ones if you have a dark colored car. Some people are so anxious to get a car that looks like them show cars they don't really take time to think about it . Half them show people don't even drive their cars. Life isn't really Fast and Furious. If you had a car driving it daily that had all that crap on it living in Cali or NY i bet your car would be gone in no time. Gone in 60 Secs. I'm tuning my car more toward BMW and Mercedes and the GT series. I'm definitely getting them arches though that them GT cars have. But just on the rear. It'd look funny if you put the huge bulkyfronts ones that some of them have on it like the Ferrari 360's have on it. They actually have increased wheelspan by 3 in. i think up front. Anyways, to each his own and TWISTED your car is nice but some of them other ricers on here that got a huge wing and nothing else on the outside, i will agree with Scootin, its UGLY!!!

The 99 Galant
11-16-2003, 01:14 AM
o yeah if you look at BMWs on Hamann webpage, which typically BMW has the best allround performing sedans and sport coupes that aren't expensive as crap, they have them tiny wings on it and thats what they call their aerodynamics. If a company like Hamann thinks that a tiny spoiler on the rear of a E60 sedan, like our G, needs on a tiny flush mount spoiler to keep it down with its engines mod, then there's something to think about there. If a huge spoiler was really needed to keep a car down like the E60 at high speeds, why didn't the make it for their aerodynamic kit for the car? Just a thought.

GaLaNtKeV99
11-16-2003, 01:21 AM
I think aluminum wings look good depending on which one, If you have a full kit it would look even better. https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif

CF wings are the shit. kit or no kit. Mario's wing is beautiful :shock: , its CF and low too his car. https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif

Fiberglass wings are cool too, i mean i have the GTZ wing, and i love it for now, maybe next year i will upgrade to CF. :twisted:

Make sure the Fiberglass wings arent 2 floors as well as the aluminum, and that the brackets arent to high from your trunk. :roll: :wink:

You should post some examples :idea: so we can give you better opinions. https://www.thegalantcenter.org/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif

manybrews
11-16-2003, 01:43 AM
it all screams "poser".

Elwenil
11-16-2003, 01:52 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(manybrews)</div><div class='quotemain'>it all screams "poser".</div>
In your opinion...

TWISTED II
11-16-2003, 01:15 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(manybrews)</div><div class='quotemain'>it all screams "poser".</div>


anything you do to your car is modeled after something else. that is such an ignorant comment to say. if you see a wing on a car and like it, you will get it for your car. so are you saying that only 1 car should have a certain wing? so if i saw a wing on a car, i can't get it anymore? poser is such a lame term and i think its wrongly used here. everyone poses to an extent....thats where ideas are made. am i a poser cuz i lowered my car? should i have raised my galant since someone else has already lowered it and i don't wanna be a poser? or maybe i should make my car slower, since someone else has tried making it fast? gimme a break.

GaLaNtKeV99
11-16-2003, 01:34 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TWISTED!)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(manybrews)</div><div class='quotemain'>it all screams "poser".</div>


anything you do to your car is modeled after something else. that is such an ignorant comment to say. if you see a wing on a car and like it, you will get it for your car. so are you saying that only 1 car should have a certain wing? so if i saw a wing on a car, i can't get it anymore? poser is such a lame term and i think its wrongly used here. everyone poses to an extent....thats where ideas are made. am i a poser cuz i lowered my car? should i have raised my galant since someone else has already lowered it and i don't wanna be a poser? or maybe i should make my car slower, since someone else has tried making it fast? gimme a break.</div>

well put 8)

Elwenil
11-16-2003, 01:36 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(GaLaNtKeV99)</div><div class='quotemain'>

well put Â*8)</div>

I agree... :thumbsup:

Z
11-16-2003, 01:52 PM
http://www.boners.com/content/790869.1.jpg

11-16-2003, 02:10 PM
Thanks Z...lol

'Nuff Said.

manybrews
11-17-2003, 09:24 PM
anything you do to your car is modeled after something else.
according to whom? you?
it IS possible to be creative these days, and ignore the large wing/stickers/neon lights/poor interior paint that everyone else is doing.



that is such an ignorant comment to say. if you see a wing on a car and like it, you will get it for your car.
I already said I dont like any wings... so no, that wont happen in my case.
I said I prefer subtlety.


so are you saying that only 1 car should have a certain wing? so if i saw a wing on a car, i can't get it anymore? poser is such a lame term and i think its wrongly used here.
Im saying 2 foot tall wings are all about SHOW. and show with no go is POSER.


everyone poses to an extent....thats where ideas are made.
huh? Ideas are made up from people altering the ways their cars look to fool people into thinking theyre actually fast?


am i a poser cuz i lowered my car?
depends.. didja do it for show, or for performance?


should i have raised my galant since someone else has already lowered it and i don't wanna be a poser?
maybe if you wanted to go off roading. which, by the way, would be original, since no one raises galants and therefor would be useful only in that regard... so if done for other reasons would still be pretty much posing.


or maybe i should make my car slower, since someone else has tried making it fast? gimme a break.
its more important to make a car look fast as compared to actually having the goal of making it go fast?

apparently, no one here sees the difference. which is fine. but dont scream at me for my opinion (which ive already stated is AN OPINION, so cant be inherently right or wrong) and then expect me to respect all of yours.

11-18-2003, 12:20 AM
apparently, no one here sees the difference. which is fine. but dont scream at me for my opinion (which ive already stated is AN OPINION, so cant be inherently right or wrong) and then expect me to respect all of yours.
holy shit, i actually agree with you! If you're trying to justify an aluminum wing as a performance part, you are a poser.

mjc1055
11-18-2003, 12:29 AM
apparently, no one here sees the difference. which is fine. but dont scream at me for my opinion (which ive already stated is AN OPINION, so cant be inherently right or wrong) and then expect me to respect all of yours.
holy shit, i actually agree with you! If you're trying to justify an aluminum wing as a performance part, you are a poser.

well, aluminum wings can actually be useful, for example the japanese n1 circuit... those cars put out so much power that they need the downforce. your average commuter, on the other hand, has no need for the downforce

TWISTED II
11-18-2003, 12:35 AM
manybrews, you boviously don't understand where everyone except you is coming from. post a pic of your car please.

The 99 Galant
11-18-2003, 01:04 AM
the wing has to fit the car, and thats that. You people have these huge wings on the back but all you've done to your car is rims and exhaust and intake. TWISTED car looks good only because he's done something to his car. Even though IMO some cars with huge wings that are even modded still can look funny if the wing doesn't match the kit or the style. But if your car isn't in shows where crap like that stuff matters or you're on the track needing downforce, why screw your cars aero and look by putting them "poo hanging from your butt" kinda wings.

manybrews
11-19-2003, 04:52 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TWISTED!)</div><div class='quotemain'>manybrews, you boviously don't understand where everyone except you is coming from. Â*post a pic of your car please.</div>
whats to understand? someone asked about wings, and I gave my opinion. theres nothing to understand about it. just because others dont like my opinion doesnt make them or I right or wrong.
but just for the sake of conversation, hers a pic about 6 months ago.
its in storage right now.. in mid-restoration.



http://home.mn.rr.com/hartsstuff/DSCF0061.JPG

TWISTED II
11-19-2003, 04:56 PM
maybe i didn't get the memo....but you don't have a galant?

manybrews
11-21-2003, 04:53 PM
maybe i didn't get the memo....but you don't have a galant?
not at the moment.

but Ive driven over a thousand, easy.

TWISTED II
11-21-2003, 07:04 PM
maybe i didn't get the memo....but you don't have a galant?
not at the moment.

but Ive driven over a thousand, easy.

that doesn't mean anything. i wanted to see how you go about styling and modifying your vehicles.

DarkLateNight
11-21-2003, 07:14 PM
im not in this but - it's all personal opinion - if u hate it u hate it - if you like it you like it - it's your OPINION and everyone's may or may not be different -- we just gotta respect it - hmm im not one to talk tho - lol

TWISTED II
11-21-2003, 07:21 PM
opinion is one thing...but accusing everyone with a wing, to be a poser is just wrong. there would be 1 modified car of each model if that were the case. it comes down to everything. ok, a galant has been lowered, i better find another car." since other members have the SDS, can i not get that cuz i would be posing? its just a wrongly used word, and i was just curious to see what modifications, if any, he has done to his vehicle. i would assume it would be a very unique car if everything on it was an original idea so it wouldn't be posing.

Z
11-21-2003, 11:40 PM
maybe i didn't get the memo....but you don't have a galant?
not at the moment.

but Ive driven over a thousand, easy.

have you had a galant? if not, then how come you've been here that long

peanotation
11-22-2003, 12:37 AM
opinion is one thing...but accusing everyone with a wing, to be a poser is just wrong. there would be 1 modified car of each model if that were the case. it comes down to everything. ok, a galant has been lowered, i better find another car." since other members have the SDS, can i not get that cuz i would be posing? its just a wrongly used word, and i was just curious to see what modifications, if any, he has done to his vehicle. i would assume it would be a very unique car if everything on it was an original idea so it wouldn't be posing.

i think he's cought him in his own hypocritical statement. it doesn't count as opinion if you are the only person that believes it, and every single other person completely disagrees with you (and scootin doesn't count :wink: )

manybrews
11-22-2003, 12:26 PM
opinion is one thing...but accusing everyone with a wing, to be a poser is just wrong. there would be 1 modified car of each model if that were the case. it comes down to everything. ok, a galant has been lowered, i better find another car." since other members have the SDS, can i not get that cuz i would be posing? its just a wrongly used word, and i was just curious to see what modifications, if any, he has done to his vehicle. i would assume it would be a very unique car if everything on it was an original idea so it wouldn't be posing.

I didnt ACCUSE anyone of anything. It was (and still is) my opinion that giant wings are terrible on any car... not just a galant.
Ive owned 34 different vehicals, and due to my job Ive been fortunate (and unfortunate) to see how good and how awful some "mods" can be on a car.
I dont have to personally have a wing (or not) on my cars to be able to state an opinion regarding my thoughts on them.


As for mods, that star-quest you see there is modded mechanically.. with a 14 g turbo, different PCM, different intercooler piping, and a few other items that actually increased my HP by 75.
The ONLY exterior mod (if you can call it that) is window tint.

As I said, I like subtlety... and I like sleepers. I like being able to dust 90 percent of the cars out there with my 16 year old piece of "stock" junk. To me, THAT is much more rewarding than any extermal changes you can have.

manybrews
11-22-2003, 12:27 PM
have you had a galant? if not, then how come you've been here that long
yes, ive owned a galant..
but Im here because Ive worked for mitsu for 11 and a half years.

manybrews
11-22-2003, 12:30 PM
i think he's cought him in his own hypocritical statement. it doesn't count as opinion if you are the only person that believes it, and every single other person completely disagrees with you (and scootin doesn't count :wink: )
say WHAT?

thats gotta be about the most rediculous thing ive ever heard.

My opinion isnt an opinion if no one else agrees with it? do you have any idea what the definition of an opinion is?
My opinion is EXACTLY what I say it is.. just as yours and his are. they cant be right or wrong, because THEYRE OPINIONS.

TWISTED II
11-22-2003, 04:02 PM
its not that you can't have an opinion, its just that "poser" is the wrong word. i'm sure you weren't the first star-quest with tinted windows, so does that mean you posed? prolly not, we're just saying that modding your car isn't all about posing. fine, you think they look horrible, but posing is not used right here.

manybrews
11-25-2003, 09:37 PM
its not that you can't have an opinion, its just that "poser" is the wrong word. i'm sure you weren't the first star-quest with tinted windows, so does that mean you posed? prolly not, we're just saying that modding your car isn't all about posing. fine, you think they look horrible, but posing is not used right here.
the difference being that I didnt tint the windows for the look, but the function.

You seem to be dead set on this "poser" thing, so lets put this to rest..

what difference does it make what I think about your car anyway? (for the record, i havent said anything about your car).

I use the word "poser" as a descriptive element that helps explain my opinion, which hasnt changed. I see cars everyday that make me gag, because they are all built by people that think image is more important than the actual performance of their cars. I call them the "fast and furious dipshits" or "posers", because to ME (once again, an opinion) anyone that does something strictly for image is a fool.
You dont need to justify anything to me for countless reasons, the main being that we dont even know each other, and probably will never meet. the second is that my opinion on this matter will NOT change no matter how many people try to prove otherwise to me. Nor should I even try to change it, as it is still and always will be MY OPINION. Neither my nor your opinions are right or wrong, so it really doesnt matter.

TWISTED II
11-26-2003, 01:54 AM
thats fine man. no ones askin you to change your opinion. i'm just sayin that not all people want race cars, and just cuz someone is building a car for show, doesn't mean they are posing. some people do things to cars for looks, i don't know why thats such a problem. and i dunno if i believe you bought your tint and said "sweet, i got my tint done to cut down on harmful UV rays and get better gas mileage becuase of the reduction of sunlight causing me to use less AC." but whatever, this is pointless and has been from the start. if you would like to think everyone does everything to their car cuz they are posers, so be it. :roll: